PDA

View Full Version : Let's imagine this for the moment:


Dasha_
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:11 AM
Let's imagine that all the players are in their best form. Who do you think would be #1 in that case?

Alan
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:26 AM
i think it's serena... i'm not a serena fan at that

Shoulderpova
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:27 AM
Sharapova no doubt :cool:

Dasha_
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:30 AM
But sharapova is, according to many, now at her best. And she is not #1. How do you explain that?

Shoulderpova
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:33 AM
But sharapova is, according to many, now at her best. And she is not #1. How do you explain that?
:eek: She's definitely going to be number 1 in the world.And I'm sure this'll happen this year. Shes has been winning alot. Give her some time :cool:

Dasha_
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:46 AM
:eek: She's definitely going to be number 1 in the world.And I'm sure this'll happen this year. Shes has been winning alot. Give her some time :cool:

To win matches is one thing. To win the tournaments is a totaly different thing, and that counts for being (or becoming) number one. And she obviously has the problem about wining tournaments, and I don't see how it could become better for her, time or no time given.

syd
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:53 AM
hope justine

Maria Croft
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:53 AM
I hope this doesn't become another hate topic but at the age of 17 she already won 9 titels and will be number 2 next week, people that still need more proof that Maria is a good tennis player are stupid.

About the question you asked, I have no idea

Dasha_
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:03 PM
Please, enlight me: How will Sharapova be number two next week? I would so much like to know that.
And, why do you people say that same thing avery single week, and it never happens? You predicted that she will be #1 after Miami, and she is #3.
So, who is stupid over here?

Chunchun
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:06 PM
serena :worship:

CooCooCachoo
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:09 PM
Justine

Shoulderpova
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:53 PM
To win matches is one thing. To win the tournaments is a totaly different thing, and that counts for being (or becoming) number one. And she obviously has the problem about wining tournaments, and I don't see how it could become better for her, time or no time given.
she won 2 titles already this year, 2 out of 3 finals she played. She never lost before semifinals. :rolleyes: I highly doubt you're a tennis fan :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Dasha_
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:03 PM
she won 2 titles already this year, 2 out of 3 finals she played. She never lost before semifinals. :rolleyes: I highly doubt you're a tennis fan :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It's hard to lose before semies if you retire, isn't it? :lol:

iced gem
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:10 PM
Serena - if she was 100% focused on tennis and had no distractions, I think she would definitely be back at number one :)

Dasha_
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:10 PM
I am so happy to see how big visionars you are, and the majority says that Serena is the one. No, she is THe One And Only. The Queen (let Venus be The Princess just this once, please, and not the other way arround)!!!

jes_022
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:25 PM
I hope Kim if/when she's going to win some slams this year.

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:28 PM
Justine or Serena, tough call...Maybe Serena a lil' more :shrug:

controlfreak
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:30 PM
even if the world #1 was blind, deaf, dumb, and born with half a brain and no arms or legs, she would be able to create a more original thread than this one...

per4ever
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:09 PM
1. Serena
2. Justine
3. Sharapova

-Kieron-
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Venus :)

xan
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Another stupid poll!

How can you leave the World No 3 (Next week No 2) player off this? The poll is not serious.

Maria at her best can blow anyone off court.

Szymanowski
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:33 PM
But sharapova is, according to many, now at her best. And she is not #1. How do you explain that?
umm, a 6-0 6-0 loss at IW? you think that is her best? nah. She's capable of far more than she's done this year so far, I'm talkin about the Aus open as well, and a couple of other matches. She's a lot better than she's played in many matches this year, IMHO.

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Another stupid poll!

How can you leave the World No 3 (Next week No 2) player off this? The poll is not serious.

Maria at her best can blow anyone off court.
Yeah, but can she blow all the other players if they're all at their best?

SJW
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:34 PM
Yeah, but can she blow all the other players if they're all at their best?

of course. she's only 17 :)

xan
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Yeah, but can she blow all the other players if they're all at their best?

Maria "in the zone" is quite frightening. I think she might. Anyhow. This is a good question. And I don't want it spoiled by a silly poll. So I'll put up a serious poll with all the contenders for No 1.

Szymanowski
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:40 PM
of course. she's only 17 :)
you know something, that's actually a very good point you bring up there;)

she's only gonna get better with age:p

jan.
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:53 PM
Uhm, Im no serena fan but I'll have to say her.
She wants it the most.

SelesFan70
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:42 PM
:rolleyes: I can't believe the poll doesn't even have Maria as an option...

SJW
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:33 PM
does it really matter? lol. if you think Maria fine. is a wtaworld poll gonna justify it anymore? :scratch::confused:

wta whore 79
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:46 PM
Serena would be #1 for a couple of years until IVANOVIC takes over! :D

Julia1968
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:51 PM
But sharapova is, according to many, now at her best. And she is not #1. How do you explain that?

Probably the same way that the W fans claim Venus and Serena are the best tennis players in the world, yet their rankings do not support it.

G1Player2
Apr 7th, 2005, 09:05 AM
Probably the same way that the W fans claim Venus and Serena are the best tennis players in the world, yet their rankings do not support it.

Lindsay davenport is #1 right now without a slam and Amelie Mauresmo was #1 reaching just ONE slame semi-final...

Hingis spent nearly 3 years at #1 without winning a slam...interesting...

Remember, Serena won the Austrailian Open this year and is not #1...If you look at this, the rankings don't mean ALL that much, but I'm sure you knoew this, lol...I love when I'm right...;)

Dasha_
Apr 7th, 2005, 09:34 AM
And you are so right ....

Sam L
Apr 7th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Serena.

Lemonskin.
Apr 7th, 2005, 09:48 AM
Well, if they all hit form RIGHT NOW, Lindsay would still be #1, coz she's #1 now!!

In a couple of months that may well change though...

Rub
Apr 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM
sharpy should be on the list,i agree!

Rub
Apr 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM
sharpy should be on the list,i agree!

Yasmine
Apr 7th, 2005, 12:09 PM
I'm not her biggest fan but no doubt there, Serena...

Julia1968
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:48 AM
Remember, Serena won the Austrailian Open this year and is not #1...If you look at this, the rankings don't mean ALL that much, but I'm sure you knoew this, lol...I love when I'm right...;)

Well, in the past year at the major events, Sharapova defeated Serena in the Wimbledon finals, then again in the YE Championship final, then lost to her in the semi's of the AO.

Heck, Serena couldn't even get past Jennifer in the quarters of the French Open and the US Open.

Yet you argue that Serena should be #1?????

:rolleyes:

RVD
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:56 AM
Sheesh! Another easy poll....Serena of course. :worship:

Stamp Paid
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:57 AM
Well, in the past year at the major events, Sharapova defeated Serena in the Wimbledon finals, then again in the YE Championship final, then lost to her in the semi's of the AO.

Heck, Serena couldn't even get past Jennifer in the quarters of the French Open and the US Open.

Yet you argue that Serena should be #1?????

:rolleyes:

Serena has the best grand slam record of any other player on tour. She has a YTD winning record over every player in the Top 5 excluding herself.

Of course she should not be #1, but you discrediting her on the basis of her Grand Slam record over the past year, especially after coming off of knee surgery is laughable.

G1Player2
Apr 8th, 2005, 04:54 AM
Well, in the past year at the major events, Sharapova defeated Serena in the Wimbledon finals, then again in the YE Championship final, then lost to her in the semi's of the AO.

Heck, Serena couldn't even get past Jennifer in the quarters of the French Open and the US Open.

Yet you argue that Serena should be #1?????

:rolleyes:

Ummm, Maria Sharpova couldn't even get past tennis giant Paola Suarez in the quarters of the French Open and couldn't get past an aging Mary Pierce in the 3rd round of the US Open...

Yet you argue she should be #1?

selyoink
Apr 8th, 2005, 05:38 AM
Justine because she would play more tournaments than Serena. Plus we never really saw Serena and Justine face each other often when both were at their peaks.

@m@nd@
Apr 8th, 2005, 06:49 AM
of course sharapova

Daniel
Apr 8th, 2005, 07:47 AM
Other

@m@nd@
Apr 8th, 2005, 07:49 AM
Ummm, Maria Sharpova couldn't even get past tennis giant Paola Suarez in the quarters of the French Open and couldn't get past an aging Mary Pierce in the 3rd round of the US Open...

Yet you argue she should be #1?
tht was last yr
believe it or not she improved alot

Zhao
Apr 8th, 2005, 08:19 AM
Seles... will outhit all of them :)
i think Serena... thinking back at 2002 and its :eek:

tennislover
Apr 8th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Lindsay/Sharapova

Maria Croft
Apr 11th, 2005, 03:47 PM
Please, enlight me: How will Sharapova be number two next week? I would so much like to know that.
And, why do you people say that same thing avery single week, and it never happens? You predicted that she will be #1 after Miami, and she is #3.
So, who is stupid over here?

Sony Ericsson
WTA Singles
Rankings
(as of Apr 11, 2005)


1 (1) DAVENPORT, LINDSAY USA
5184.00
2 (3) SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS
4892.00
3 (2) MAURESMO, AMELIE FRA
4808.00
4 (4) WILLIAMS, SERENA USA
4218.00
5 (5) DEMENTIEVA, ELENA RUS
3633.00
6 (6) MYSKINA, ANASTASIA RUS
3455.00
7 (7) KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS
3323.00
8 (8) WILLIAMS, VENUS USA
2693.00
9 (9) MOLIK, ALICIA AUS
2585.75
10 (10) ZVONAREVA, VERA

Need I say more ??

~ The Leopard ~
Apr 11th, 2005, 03:53 PM
In all honesty, probably Serena.

VeraNuVirgosFan
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:49 AM
But sharapova is, according to many, now at her best. And she is not #1...
Finally Masha can make you happy when she becomes the first ever Russian world #1 on 22 August.

Don't forget to celebrate with us, Masha fans.

Portobello
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:19 AM
surely Maria :banana: :banana: :banana:

Dasha_
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Finally Masha can make you happy when she becomes the first ever Russian world #1 on 22 August.

Don't forget to celebrate with us, Masha fans.


Sorry, but I like Lindsay, and I am not able to celebrate the fact she is injured.
I wouldn't do that even if that would put Serena or Venus on the top of the rankings.

Anyway, I believe that is just one single week we are talking about...

BTW, the person (or persons) who enjoys in the fact that players are injured, and makes the celebration out of that are very mean and unsporting bunch of people…

EARNING to be #1, and benefiting from current #1 being injured are 2 completely different things ….

Remember, before Lindsay got injured, there was a gap of about 1500 points between those two. The difference between 2nd and 3rd was approximately 250 points, just like it is today. And that should tell you what sharapova achieved since Wimbledon - NOTHING!!!

VeraNuVirgosFan
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:47 AM
BTW, the person (or persons) who enjoys in the fact that players are injured, and makes the celebration out of that are very mean and unsporting bunch of people…
Actually you're the one who often wishes other players to have injuries.
Who knows, she could be even luckier at U.S. then she is now, and Serena, Venus, Lindsay, Amelie, Justine, Kim etc. could all be injured then, not only Lindsay.

Dasha_
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:53 AM
Well, it is good thing to know how thorough you read (and remember) my posts ... :)

Who knows, you could even learn something one day.

Anyway, nice from you to admit that. I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you. :wavey:

Roshane
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Sharapova.

Sharapova should have been be number 1 by a big gap if it wasn't for her injury.

Dexter
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:46 PM
Justine :)

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:59 PM
Sharapova.

Sharapova should have been be number 1 by a big gap if it wasn't for her injury.
uhuh and that has nothing to do w/the fact that Lindsay is unable to defend her points due to injury?

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Venus Williams

I challenge anyone to come up w/a match in which Venus had fewer than 20 ufe's and she lost.

ampers&
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:07 PM
There’s no doubt who would be number one: Serena Williams.
Have we all forgotten how DOMINATING she was when she was in top form?
NO one could beat her. She used to make the best players in the world look like amateurs.

Aussie_Kim
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:08 PM
Kim would have been a much better player if she hadn't had last year off.
Also, Alicia Molik would be top five by now if she had been able to play more this year!

VeraNuVirgosFan
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:15 AM
Who knows, you could even learn something one day.

Learn from you?!

No, thanks.

dasha_yu who?

LesViolettes
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:19 AM
Justine Henin-Hardenne, would be my guess.

frenchie
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:24 AM
Serena at her best was a class of her own!

In 2002 she was playing THE best tennis I've never seen from a woman! No doubt about it

Then, in that order: Venus (powerful dominant strokes and serve)
Linzi (same as Venus but without the athletism)
Justine (She can't be as impressive as the others or maybe on clay?

VeraNuVirgosFan
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:29 AM
Anyway, nice from you to admit that.
To admit what?
EARNING to be #1, and benefiting from current #1 being injured are 2 completely different things ….
If you mean the Williams sisters' and the Belgian sisters' injuries, then you have a good point. Because before their injuries, "Davenport had not even reached one slam final in the previous 4 years":
And last year Davenport had not even reached one slam final in the previous 4 years, and yet she got to be the number 1

VeraNuVirgosFan
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:53 AM
BTW, the person (or persons) who enjoys in the fact that players are injured, and makes the celebration out of that are very mean and unsporting bunch of people…
Of course we can celebrate because you already dedicated the whole new thread to talk about Masha’s injury as "cosmic justice" and "it was the only fair thing that could happened".
How would you call it? Is this the supreme irony, or the "cosmic justice"?

Sharapova had a chance to become #1 only because Lindsay was (is) injured, but herself getting injured made it impossible for her (once again).

I’m really sorry that she is injured (I feel that way for every single player), but, in some bizarre way, it was the only fair thing that could happened.

denzuko
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:20 AM
Venus Williams

I challenge anyone to come up w/a match in which Venus had fewer than 20 ufe's and she lost.

Make it 25, then I'll tell you.

Serena!
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:50 AM
serena!

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:58 AM
Let's go deep...(hehe)

Okay:

Serena Williams: Peak Serena Willams was in 2002/2003- winning the French Open, Wimbledon, US Open, and Australian Open and winning other tournaments such a Miami (x2), Rome, Paris, Leipzig, and Tokyo. I would say she reached her absolute peak at the 2002 US Open where she spanked Davenport, Venus, Hantuchova, and many others en route to an exhilerating performance. In this period of time, she really defeated everyone imaginable: Hingis, V.Williams, Davenport, Clijsters, Mauresmo, Henin-Hardenne, Hantuchova, Capriati, etc. Also, she won on Grass, Hard, Carpet, and Clay, and Indoor, Outdoor, and also played Hopman Cup, Fed Cup- always plusses.

Venus Williams: Peak Venus Williams was from Wimbledon-US Open in both 2000 and 2001. I would say that her 35 match winning streak was extremely impressive in 2000, but she did have trouble beating Hingis both at Wimbledon and the US. One thing about Venus during those years, was that she would usually never play her best tennis, and win. I mean, tough wins over Hingis, Capriati, Coetzer, Davenport, Sanchez-Vicario, Frazier, etc. and she pulled them all out. Shows how great she was. She won four Grand Slams during these years, one Miami title, another on clay.

Davenport- defeated by Venus during 1998- the first year she went to No.1. In 1999, the true colours showed as Lindsay D. couldn't compete well with a hungry, healthy, mature Venus. 6-4, 6-1; 6-2, 6-1; 6-4, 7-5; 6-3, 7-6; 7-5, 6-0 wins prove this. There is a reason Lindsay hasn't won a Slam in so many years and that is because when a new great player comes, she is always Number 3 or 4- Justine, Kim, Venus, Serena, Martina all dismissed her.

Kim- when she played her best, Serena came back from 5-1 down in a Grand Slam Semifinal. Nuff said.

Justine: There is also a question mark beside her. (?) I mean, she showed tremendous form during her dominating months- 2003 to 2004, but she never beat Serena on a fast surface, and never played Venus, plus they were injured for six and eight months during her reign as No.1 player. Her main competition was chocker-Kim.

In the end, the best player of our generation wins and that is Princess Cup. Followed by Venus and closely followed by Justine.

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:00 AM
Venus Williams

I challenge anyone to come up w/a match in which Venus had fewer than 20 ufe's and she lost.

Well, that's not very fair. I mean, how many times has she had fewer than 20 errors? I can say that I'm the best Junior player in Canada at my best- but,...I'm never at my best.

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:01 AM
Ummm, Maria Sharpova couldn't even get past tennis giant Paola Suarez in the quarters of the French Open and couldn't get past an aging Mary Pierce in the 3rd round of the US Open...

Yet you argue she should be #1?

Not to mention a 6-2, 6-2 loss to Skuzzy, 6-0, 6-0 loss to Lindsay and being spanked by Justine, Kim, and Venus this year...

JenFan75
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:02 AM
Cappy! ^_^

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:03 AM
Seles... will outhit all of them :)
i think Serena... thinking back at 2002 and its :eek:

Almost agreed. I mean, Seles of 2001 summer probably would be ranked in the top 4 right now.

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Cappy! ^_^

???

What are you talking about? By saying that comment, you are obviously telling every tennis fan on Earth that you know absolutely nothing about tennis. Capriati at her peak would lose to Serena, Venus, Kim, Justine, Lindsay, Monica, Martina, Mauresmo, and maybe even Dokic if they were all at their peaks.

Peak-Capriati was from Australian Open '01 to Australian Open '02 and she won only four titles. She lost to many, many players and she was never clearly the best player. In 2001, she should have been ranked Number 2, behind Venus, not Lindsay.

Also in 2001, Jennifer lost to Monica Seles, Lindsay Davenport, Venus Williams, Amelie Mauresmo, Rita Kuti Kis, Justine Henin, Serena Williams, and Sandrine Testud. Jennifer's record against Top Ten players wasn't great as she compiled a 10-10 record- Seven of those wins were after the Australian Open. So, in 14 tournaments, she defeated only seven Top Ten players.

She lost to anti-peak players such as Seles, Serena, Testud, Kuti Kis, and Henin-Hardenne. She even went to 12-10 against Clijsters who was out of the Top 10 and in her first Grand Slam final at the French Open.

Paneru
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:25 AM
Serve; can't be touched
Groundstrokes; consistent blazing forehand to match backhand
Movement; please!
Net game; no one does it better
Focus; all within her mind
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

Venus Williams! :worship:

JenFan75
Aug 19th, 2005, 05:21 AM
???

What are you talking about? By saying that comment, you are obviously telling every tennis fan on Earth that you know absolutely nothing about tennis. Capriati at her peak would lose to Serena, Venus, Kim, Justine, Lindsay, Monica, Martina, Mauresmo, and maybe even Dokic if they were all at their peaks.

Peak-Capriati was from Australian Open '01 to Australian Open '02 and she won only four titles. She lost to many, many players and she was never clearly the best player. In 2001, she should have been ranked Number 2, behind Venus, not Lindsay.

Also in 2001, Jennifer lost to Monica Seles, Lindsay Davenport, Venus Williams, Amelie Mauresmo, Rita Kuti Kis, Justine Henin, Serena Williams, and Sandrine Testud. Jennifer's record against Top Ten players wasn't great as she compiled a 10-10 record- Seven of those wins were after the Australian Open. So, in 14 tournaments, she defeated only seven Top Ten players.

She lost to anti-peak players such as Seles, Serena, Testud, Kuti Kis, and Henin-Hardenne. She even went to 12-10 against Clijsters who was out of the Top 10 and in her first Grand Slam final at the French Open.

I don't think it's so much as me knowing nothing about tennis as me supporting my favorite player, as unrealistic as you think her chances might be, I'm still entitled to keep my optimist towards Jen.

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2005, 05:31 AM
I don't think it's so much as me knowing nothing about tennis as me supporting my favorite player, as unrealistic as you think her chances might be, I'm still entitled to keep my optimist towards Jen.

There is a difference between supporting your favourite player and being stupid. You're being stupid. This isn't a thread to support Jennifer or another one of your favourite players. This is a thread to state who you think would be Number One if all of the players on tour were at their peak. Peak Jennifer wouldn't beat Peak Serena, and that is a fact.

JenFan75
Aug 19th, 2005, 06:07 AM
There is a difference between supporting your favourite player and being stupid. You're being stupid. This isn't a thread to support Jennifer or another one of your favourite players. This is a thread to state who you think would be Number One if all of the players on tour were at their peak. Peak Jennifer wouldn't beat Peak Serena, and that is a fact.


I think Jen very well could be number one at her peak, and I think peak Jen is very capable of beating Serena. If that means I know absolutely nothing about tennis, so be it. I couldn't care less ^_~