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LeRoy.
Apr 4th, 2005, 09:56 PM
From the match of the day thread.

.......The effects are, naturally, dramatic: Clijsters, #133 four weeks ago and #38 last week, is now #17 in the world. She is #4 in the WTA Race, behind only Sharapova (who, despite losing, takes the top spot and is very close to qualifying for the year-end championships), Davenport (also close to qualifying), and Serena Williams. If the WTA were still using the divisor, she's be up to #11 and nearly certain to get one of the top eight Roland Garros seeds.


Its only the beginning of April and Maria (alongwith Lindsay) is already close to qualifying for the YEC Championship. :)

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:11 PM
:bowdown:

pinkfrog
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:16 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Szymanowski
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:17 PM
Wow.......:D

timray
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:18 PM
:bounce: :bigclap: :bounce:

LiliaLee-Frazier
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:19 PM
She certainly setting the pace this season! :worship: :bounce:

Lemonskin.
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:20 PM
:hehehe:

Sir Stefwhit
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:23 PM
That's awesome newz... and since Serena is merely 176 pts. behind Maria, and less than 100 pts behind LindZ, she must be close as well...

RussiansFan
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:23 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

jonny84
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Surely it is too early to say players have qualified already?

lindsayno1
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:40 PM
wow lindsay!!!! lol

anabel
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:40 PM
Surely it is too early to say players have qualified already?

I think so..

~Rachel~
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:41 PM
Wow that is early :eek:

Volcana
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:45 PM
I'm willing to look at math that proves that statement, but honestly, I think that's total BS.

Obviouslly Davenport and Serena could wind up with more points than Sharapova. Now suppose Dementieva, Schnyder and Dechy win Roland Garros, Wimbledon anf Flushing Meadow, with Moilk, Clijsters and Mauresmo as finalists.

Unless they're going back to the 16 player format (baaaaaad move), Sharapova could have 2000 points, and still not make it. The #8 player right now has over 2600 hundred points. Is 900 points shy of that really all that 'close'?

1 1699.00 SHARAPOVA

2 1614.00 5 DAVENPORT
3 1523.00 4 WILLIAMS
4 1237.00 CLIJSTERS
5 1089.00 MAURESMO
6 _960.00 MOLIK
7 _820.00 DECHY
8 _797.00 SCHNYDER
9 _697.00 DEMENTIEVA

Shonami Slam
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:54 PM
thanks Volcana - that was very intresting and useful!
let's not forget JHH, venus and the russians are gunna split some points as well, so unless she really wins on of the remaining slams and assures herself the GS card, it's not done yet
or else - i'm very much ready to boycot the YEC.
april with two players already In for sure?
that's a bit boring.
in two more months, serena kim and RG winner will have secured places and that's it - nothing to look for anymore.
i hope sharapova and lindz qualify - i also hope they prove themselves time and time again before, they deserve bieng pushed to a better level - they are stars.

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 4th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Well helll yeah, she better have...she's played 5 tournaments and has made at least the semi-finals of every tournament she's played...quite good. Let's see how she holds up during the spring. I know she will do well in the summer and barring injury she should, along with the rest of the current Porche Race Top 4 UNDOUBTEDLY make the YEC

Freewoman33
Apr 4th, 2005, 11:31 PM
I think it's almost a given that Maria qualify. However, to say that she has already qualified when it's only April is a bit premature.

LeRoy.
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:53 AM
I'm willing to look at math that proves that statement, but honestly, I think that's total BS.



Hey i didn't say that. Its Bob Larson (i think) who thinks that she is very close to qualifying for the YEC. Blame him not me :p

Chunchun
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:50 AM
Now suppose Dementieva ....... win Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Flushing Meadow

it's true! :banana: :p

Masha :eek:

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:02 AM
I don't see what's the big deal. Davenport and Mauresmo both qualified for the YEC in June last year. Davenport has played more and gotten farther in the AO slam this year and Sharapova is just as consistent. If they both continue to be consistent till the French Open they should. Justine-Henin Hardenne qualified last year for the YEC but didn't play. She played 9 tournis and won 5 of them. She didn't play for half of the year because of her mono-like ailment. So yes it's possible for someone to qualify for the YEC this early in the year.

Andy.
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:57 AM
Well done Masha she has played a lot lately and deserves the rest she is having now.

~SunFlower~
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:34 AM
The Maria/Dasha Sharapova haters must go nuts as they keep seeing Sharapova clone for the next 20 years. ;) What can they do about it? :shrug:

So proud of you, my only Masha. :cat: You deserve some rest, hear?

Junex
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:00 AM
I'm willing to look at math that proves that statement, but honestly, I think that's total BS.

Obviouslly Davenport and Serena could wind up with more points than Sharapova. Now suppose Dementieva, Schnyder and Dechy win Roland Garros, Wimbledon anf Flushing Meadow, with Moilk, Clijsters and Mauresmo as finalists.

Unless they're going back to the 16 player format (baaaaaad move), Sharapova could have 2000 points, and still not make it. The #8 player right now has over 2600 hundred points. Is 900 points shy of that really all that 'close'?



it would be beyond logic if Maria, the #3 player in the world, would not be able to gain more than 900 in ranking points for the remainder 6 months of the season!

with that said, it is very much likely that she qualifies. the only thing that may prevent that is if she will not play any tournament from here-on.

And her record & Lindsay's for this year speaks of this. Maria has never been defeated before the SF in all the tournaments she entered and Lindsay before the Final (except a w/o in sidney). Of course Serena is too a shoe-in for the YEC as always!

switz
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:03 AM
i'm pretty sure he mean's in terms of common sense.

Volcana
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:33 AM
it would be beyond logic if Maria, the #3 player in the world, would not be able to gain more than 900 in ranking points for the remainder 6 months of the season!Consider that Lindsay Davenport, Venus Williams, Serena Williams, Kim Clijsters, Jennifer Capriati and Justine Henin-Hardenne ALL were out at least half a season with injuries in the last two-and-a-half years. And Martina Hingis retired! If recent experience tells us anything, it's that elite players, even young elite players, can get season ending illnesses and injuries.
i'm pretty sure he mean's in terms of common sense.As for 'close to qualifying' and 'common sense', a 'common sense' usage of 'close to qualifying' is that it's pretty much guaranteed to happen. 900 points when two of the next three tournaments are on clay....

Like I said, show me the math, I'll honor it. But I don't see her hitting 2600 points before RG. Which is still pretty early, it just isn't 'close'.

Junex
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:38 AM
Consider that Lindsay Davenport, Venus Williams, Serena Williams, Kim Clijsters, Jennifer Capriati and Justine Henin-Hardenne ALL were out at least half a season with injuries in the last two-and-a-half years. And Martina Hingis retired! If recent experience tells us anything, it's that elite players, even young elite players, can get season ending illnesses and injuries.
As for 'close to qualifying' and 'common sense', a 'common sense' usage of 'close to qualifying' is that it's pretty much guaranteed to happen. 900 points when two of the next three tournaments are on clay....

Like I said, show me the math, I'll honor it. But I don't see her hitting 2600 points before RG. Which is still pretty early, it just isn't 'close'.


OK...i did mention about the "not playing due to injury" right? or didn't i? :rolleyes: ( what could be any possible reason for maria not to play the rest of the season, early -retirement? :lol: :lol: :lol: )


Before RG, wait and i will have to get my calculator...

Ok, so Maria just needs to win Berlin & Rome!

but then again, its clay and she isn't a contender for the title... :rolleyes:

as for this one:

"As for 'close to qualifying' and 'common sense', a 'common sense' usage of 'close to qualifying' is that it's pretty much guaranteed to happen."

:scratch: :confused:

rikvanlooy
Apr 6th, 2005, 10:35 AM
"but then again, its clay and she isn't a contender for the title... :rolleyes: "



We will see. Kim is also playing Rome and Berlin.

Let's wait and see what Maria is going to do against Kim on clay.

At the moment it is 3-0 for Kim in h2h and the only player that has been able to turn around this 'owning' was Justine and still Kim is in front in h2h against Justine.

It's always the same. Kim owns almost everybody, but everytime I read a lot of BS : the wind, next time ..., she will improve, she was hurt, she ... (Davenport, Mauresmo, Dementieva, Sharapova, ...)

In fact Kim is just better than those players and under normal circumstances they are going to lose (no matter what the surface they play on).

I haven't seen anything that convinces me that Maria is going to win a lot of matches against Kim. It looks more like a Davenport-Kim situation. Davenport is not able to blow Kim off court and tries everything that she can, but to no avail. I saw this with Maria as well. She began to run to the net, but in the end she didn't make a lot of points there. The so-called 'big serve of Maria' doesn't mean anything against Kim. Kim made more direct points with her serve than Maria did. I saw this in their previous encounters and it seems as if Kim reads the serve of Maria extremely well (just have a look at the number of times Maria lost her serve).

And if you have a closer look at the match then you will see that Maria suffered 3 times as many forced errors than Kim. That means that when Kim hits the ball with a lot of weight Maria is not able to return the ball. Who is then the 'big hitter' ? I see the same with Davenport. It's always Kim who has the most forced winners.

xan
Apr 6th, 2005, 11:23 AM
Yes. But Kim had nothing to lose in the US. She was able to play freely with no pressure. When there are pressures and expectations on her in slams, we'll see how she adapts. Maria was able to get points for 6-5 in the second set at Miami despite the gales. If that had happened....

As for Maria's 1st serve. Theres still a lot of room for improvement there. It has positioning, but not huge pace atm. But she adapts quickly. Hoping she stays fit, she could qualify for the YEC before the summer - which would be a great achievement.

rikvanlooy
Apr 6th, 2005, 12:16 PM
Yes. But Kim had nothing to lose in the US. She was able to play freely with no pressure. When there are pressures and expectations on her in slams, we'll see how she adapts. Maria was able to get points for 6-5 in the second set at Miami despite the gales. If that had happened....

As for Maria's 1st serve. Theres still a lot of room for improvement there. It has positioning, but not huge pace atm. But she adapts quickly. Hoping she stays fit, she could qualify for the YEC before the summer - which would be a great achievement.

I don't know what you're on about. Kim has done a lot more in important tournaments than Sharapova. She has a lot more slam semi finals and slam finals and more wins in important tournaments (Masters, TI's).

The only thing that Maria has won is Wimbledon, but at the beginning of this year she lost to Serena in a match that she should have won (sound familiar to you ?!). Kim had the same problem in 2003 She lost in the semi final against Serena. Where is the difference then ?

Let's just wait until we see what Maria does against Justine in a slam final. We will see if she is better in that kind of situations than Kim. Now we simply don't know.

Kim is not worse on slam level. She destroys everybody not named Justine, Serena and Venus. She loses to those players in smaller tournaments as well. Maria will lose in a slam as well. It doesn't make any difference.

pinkfrog
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:38 PM
Now suppose Dementieva, Schnyder and Dechy win Roland Garros, Wimbledon anf Flushing Meadow, with Moilk, Clijsters and Mauresmo as finalists.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
if this happens, i will eat a tennis ball!

_LuCaS_
Apr 6th, 2005, 02:08 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
if this happens, i will eat a tennis ball!
Actually it's more likely that those three win GS than you eating a tennis ball. :devil:

pinkfrog
Apr 6th, 2005, 02:14 PM
Actually it's more likely that those three win GS than you eating a tennis ball. :devil:


i meant if they do, then i'll eat one.

_LuCaS_
Apr 6th, 2005, 02:27 PM
And I said that they can do it...but you eating a tennisball afterwards...quite impossible. Technically speaking