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jonny84
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:13 PM
Shinobu defeated Mashona in three tough sets 7-5 4-6 6-4 to go into round two where she is likely to face either Raymond or Obzilier.

Well done Shinobu - its a good win especially as you have 4R points ar Roland Garros and Wimbledon coming up!!!!

SelesFan70
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:15 PM
Mashona! :mad:

pcrtennis
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:16 PM
Go Shino!! Nice win on your worst surface!

V-MAC
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:18 PM
:rolleyes: @ Mashona. She was up 30-0 on her serve at least twice in that 3rd set before getting broken each time :( :o

Dave B
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Shinobu :hearts:

Mase
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Nice win, congrats Shinobu!!

PointBlank
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Great win Shinobu..she is really starting to act like the top 25 player she is..but clay isnt her best surface so I dont see her doing so well in this tournament..but even winning this is good :kiss:

CoryAnnAvants#1
Apr 4th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Why is everybody saying Shino is such a bad clay court player? She beat Hantuchova, Schnyder, and Dulko to reach the fourth round of RG, has reached the semis of Acapulco, and has a win over Myskina on clay. It's not her preferred surface, but she can play on it. Nice to see her gut out a good win though!!

Poor Mashona though:sad: Her carriage has definitely turned back into a pumpkin. She's 1-7 in main draw WTA matches this year, on a six match losing streak, and hasn't beaten a single top 100 player since she reached the finals in Tokyo back in October.

Paldias
Apr 4th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Congrats Shinobu! :D
Thanks for pointing that out Bradshaw#1, I mean honestly just because it's her worst surface doesn't mean that she can't rack up wins on it (e.g. 4R FO). She'll definetely be a favourite to get to the 3R and then vs. Myskina: who knows? Myskina has been playing badly and Shinobu's beaten her before. Here's hoping for Shinobu! :D :yeah:

Libertango
Apr 4th, 2005, 06:39 PM
YAY for Shinobu!!! :bounce: Mashona :sad:

Btw, Jonny, yes Shino has 4th round points at RG to defend, but she lost in the 1st round at Wimby last year (to Raymond) after reaching the 4th round (and beating Dani) the year before. She has QF points to defend at the USO!! Go Shin! :D

brunof
Apr 4th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Why is everybody saying Shino is such a bad clay court player? She beat Hantuchova, Schnyder, and Dulko to reach the fourth round of RG, has reached the semis of Acapulco, and has a win over Myskina on clay. It's not her preferred surface, but she can play on it. Nice to see her gut out a good win though!!

Poor Mashona though:sad: Her carriage has definitely turned back into a pumpkin. She's 1-7 in main draw WTA matches this year, on a six match losing streak, and hasn't beaten a single top 100 player since she reached the finals in Tokyo back in October.

:help: Mashona

I'm so impressed with Shinobu's rise in the rankings. She has a ton of points to defend at Roland Garros this year, with some amazing wins, but I think she can do it, especially now that she will be seeded. :D It's quite possible that she will become Japan's #1 especially with Ai's crap form.

Has Ai been #1 since Date's retirement? Or was it Naoko?

Randy H
Apr 4th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Mashona :sad: Really in a slump right now, I just hope she can pick up some wins soon to get her confidence back on track. When you're new to the top 100 it's so easy to fall back into a slump and stop believing you actually belong there. Hopefully she will hang tough and get things back on track again soon.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 4th, 2005, 07:50 PM
Mashona :sad: Really in a slump right now, I just hope she can pick up some wins soon to get her confidence back on track. When you're new to the top 100 it's so easy to fall back into a slump and stop believing you actually belong there. Hopefully she will hang tough and get things back on track again soon.

What slump? Her game isn't made for clay. She hits hard and flat and can create wacky flat winners off her forehand and backhand. All she can hope for is good results on clay in doubles and hope that translates to confidence in singles on clay. Maybe if she gets some more court awareness she'll play better on the dirt.

Serena!
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:00 PM
I like both players, but, great win Shinobu. Come on Mashona, you have to start playing like late last year!

Randy H
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:13 PM
What slump? Her game isn't made for clay. She hits hard and flat and can create wacky flat winners off her forehand and backhand. All she can hope for is good results on clay in doubles and hope that translates to confidence in singles on clay. Maybe if she gets some more court awareness she'll play better on the dirt.


The clay season just started - She's been on a losing streak since Melbourne losing 5 matches on hardcourt/indoors, this is now her 6th loss, and the first since the loss in Melbourne where she managed to even win a set.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:19 PM
The clay season just started - She's been on a losing streak since Melbourne losing 5 matches on hardcourt/indoors, this is now her 6th loss, and the first since the loss in Melbourne where she managed to even win a set.

Riight. Go check to see who those loses were to. Abagail Spears at Memphis, Nicole Vaidisova at Indian Wells, Lisa Raymond at Miami, and Asagoe at Amelia Island. That is not a slump those are some tough first round matches.

Randy H
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Riight. Go check to see who those loses were to. Abagail Spears at Memphis, Nicole Vaidisova at Indian Wells, Lisa Raymond at Miami, and Asagoe at Amelia Island. That is not a slump those are some tough first round matches.

The tour has a lot of great players, unless you are drawing a wildcard or qualifier, chances are you're not going to have many others who are considered cakewalk opponents. Vaidisova I would expect to win, maybe even Raymond though she has only just recently come off an injury. Spears and Bondarenko are certainly respectable players, but they are not higher ranked than Mashona for that matter, and yet they've both beaten her in straight sets. Mashona could have had a lot worse for draws than the ones she's had.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:46 PM
The tour has a lot of great players, unless you are drawing a wildcard or qualifier, chances are you're not going to have many others who are considered cakewalk opponents. Vaidisova I would expect to win, maybe even Raymond though she has only just recently come off an injury. Spears and Bondarenko are certainly respectable players, but they are not higher ranked than Mashona for that matter, and yet they've both beaten her in straight sets. Mashona could have had a lot worse for draws than the ones she's had.

how? a harder matches in the first round. 2 up and comers and 2 veterans. Spears has an good run at the AO and took Dementieva to three sets at Indian Wells before Dementieva closed her out. There are byes in tourni so obviously she's not going to play the top players in the first round. I don't see how her first round matches could have been tougher excluding the Bondarenko match.
She might have had a better chance at Sprem than Asagoe if she was going to play a seeded player at Amelia Island. By the way Mashona's run last summer came on a good draw. She beat the one-hit wonder Claudine Schaul in straights and then finally beat Melissa Irvin for the first time in years. She might be a top 100 player but even some of those players need a mismatch in a draw to get some confidence going.

Ellery
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Well done, Shinobu!

Randy H
Apr 4th, 2005, 08:57 PM
how? a harder matches in the first round. 2 up and comers and 2 veterans. Spears has an good run at the AO and took Dementieva to three sets at Indian Wells before Dementieva closed her out. There are byes in tourni so obviously she's not going to play the top players in the first round. I don't see how her first round matches could have been tougher excluding the Bondarenko match.
She might have had a better chance at Sprem than Asagoe if she was going to play a seeded player at Amelia Island. By the way Mashona's run last summer came on a good draw. She beat the one-hit wonder Claudine Schaul in straights and then finally beat Melissa Irvin for the first time in years. She might be a top 100 player but even some of those players need a mismatch in a draw to get some confidence going.

There isn't a whole lot between the players ranked even from 50-150, a lot of them have similar games and similar levels of ability, it's just a matter of coming through with a bit of luck and having the mental toughness. There are a lot of players not in the top 100 who on a good day are capable of beating some who are there.

Spears is a good player, she had a nice Australian Open. She also lost to Yoon-Jeong Cho in the next round of Memphis after beating Mashona, and that was in straight sets. She then narrowly beat Kurhajcova who has been struggling too. Mashona again as I pointed out, was unable to take even a set. Bondarenko reached a final this year, but she had a real nice draw, and has only had one top 100 win aside from beating Mashona so far this year. At this level, barely any opponent is going to be considered a particularly easy match so I just don't really buy that she's had some really tough draws that have stopped her. Mashona's probably never going to be consistent enough to reach top 20, but with her game she should be able to compete better against a Spears or Bondarenko unless she is slumping back into the form she was in as a 150-ish ranked player.

Veritas
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:31 PM
Mashona :sad:

I don't think she should be too ashamed with this loss though. It was close and could have gone either way.

And congrats Shino :woohoo: I hope she can do well here to cushion those points she has to defend in Paris!

What slump? Her game isn't made for clay. She hits hard and flat and can create wacky flat winners off her forehand and backhand. All she can hope for is good results on clay in doubles and hope that translates to confidence in singles on clay. Maybe if she gets some more court awareness she'll play better on the dirt.

Exactly. Mashona's game is more suited to grass because she seems more comfortable going for quick winners rather than testing her own patience on a clay surface.

But this is green clay. It's a little faster than red clay...

selyoink
Apr 4th, 2005, 11:37 PM
Good win for Asagoe. She should be able to advance to at least the third round.

ex hopman
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:31 AM
Why is everybody saying Shino is such a bad clay court player?

When Shinobu lost 1R at French two years ago(!?), she made a comment "I never want to play on clay again!!!" (kinda joke tho...)

but that was then, now she plays like a different person.
Her physical training for the last few years has been paying off!! :)

Go Shino!
She's waiting for Raymond. (revenge!!)

ex hopman
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:38 AM
I'm so impressed with Shinobu's rise in the rankings. She has a ton of points to defend at Roland Garros this year, with some amazing wins, but I think she can do it, especially now that she will be seeded. :D It's quite possible that she will become Japan's #1 especially with Ai's crap form.

Has Ai been #1 since Date's retirement? Or was it Naoko?

I think Ai has been #1 Japanese player since Date's retirement.

Ai's crap form... yeah, she did have that...but I think she plays much better now...

It's exciting to see how this race for the top Japanese player goes too!! :)

CooCooCachoo
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:36 AM
Close match :D Would have loved to have seen it.

Well done Shinobu :D

Mashona :sad: