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nbaker53
Apr 3rd, 2005, 06:16 PM
When you hit a good flat shot, and then your opponent hits a short ball, obviously you'll try and go for the winner. For some reason a lot of my balls seem to fly when that happens and I try and when I try and change my grip to extreme topspin it either barely goes over or goes into the net, yet me when I don't expect it to happen it goes over...:shrug: what do I need to do to keep it consistent?

SzavayFi
Apr 3rd, 2005, 06:24 PM
When hitting a short ball you dont change your grip, you just use more raquet head speed and really whip up on the ball

kiwifan
Apr 3rd, 2005, 06:31 PM
Because I slightly retarded...

... to get more topspin when I'm close to the net, I hold the very bottom of the racket with only 2 fingers and a thumb; with a very loose grip; then just brush the outside of the ball with maximum possible head speed.

When its in, it usually lands within 2 feet of the other side of the net and then bounces off the side of the court.

I normally hit with a lot of power so I have to make adjustments to get a little touch in my forehand.

I can only hit topspin with my backhand in warm ups and practice (and I look pretty good doing it :cool: )...

...once the match starts that goes right out the window. :tape:

matthieu_tennis
Apr 3rd, 2005, 07:02 PM
me i hit big flat ground strokes and for the short ball i use top spin

Volcana
Apr 3rd, 2005, 08:17 PM
When you hit a good flat shot, and then your opponent hits a short ball, obviously you'll try and go for the winner.I don't. I try to hit a decent approach shot and take the net. 'Decent' meaning good depth and low bounce, so usually it ISN'T a shot with a lot of pace. I do have a topspin inside-out forehand I use in that situation sometimes, but the goal isn't the winner, it just to produce a shallow lob or a weak passing shot. A lot of my winners are volley winners. I don't hit hard enough to whack a lot of winners from the baseline.

kabuki
Apr 3rd, 2005, 08:20 PM
Don't change your grip. Bend at the knees (stay low) and brush up the back of the ball more.

For the forehand, imagine a smooth sideways "S" shape stroke starting high, going low, brushing up the back of the ball at contact, then naturally finishing at the left shoulder (for a rightie), with the racket trailing downward to finish.

Szymanowski
Apr 3rd, 2005, 08:43 PM
I have this problem; every time I try and hit with topspin, it lands well short:sad:

drivevolley
Apr 3rd, 2005, 09:01 PM
The ball might fly long because your leaning back! You must always have your weight forwards or the ball flys long or goes in the net!

Just hit a normal groundstroke (with a little more topspin) but make sure all your weight is in a forward motion!!!

Julia1968
Apr 3rd, 2005, 10:29 PM
When you hit a good flat shot, and then your opponent hits a short ball, obviously you'll try and go for the winner. For some reason a lot of my balls seem to fly when that happens and I try and when I try and change my grip to extreme topspin it either barely goes over or goes into the net, yet me when I don't expect it to happen it goes over...:shrug: what do I need to do to keep it consistent?

Shorten your backswing slightly and continue to use topspin.....not extreme topspin. Make sure you follow-through the ball well.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 3rd, 2005, 11:32 PM
When you hit a good flat shot, and then your opponent hits a short ball, obviously you'll try and go for the winner. For some reason a lot of my balls seem to fly when that happens and I try and when I try and change my grip to extreme topspin it either barely goes over or goes into the net, yet me when I don't expect it to happen it goes over...:shrug: what do I need to do to keep it consistent?

Some of the top players are very good with short balls and others are very iffy. Kuerten and Federer are usually good with short balls and approach shots. Safin and Roddick sometimes can get kinda iffy with it. For women since Hingis was so good around the court that her volleys complimented her approach shots.
I'm not exactly sure what kind of player you are or what your grip is but you really shouldn't change your grip to extreme topspin. I'm gonna guess you have a semi-western or Eastern grip or even perhaps the rare Continental grip or as some people in my area call the "Arthur Ashe grip".
I never underestimate my player or their movement. So I'll hit with a semi-western grip and change to Continental when I'm approaching the net. Just in case they get the next shot over the net I'm ready.

I wouldn't recommend coming to net with a extreme topspin grip. ie. Full Western grip. It's not hard but kinda cumbersome to properly volley with an extreme top spin grip.

Clijsters grip was very loopy before her injury. Now she's altered the grip for her wrists. It's now easier for her to volley now with her altered grip. Her volleys are better now than they were before the surgery just because she doesn't have to worry that much about her grip change than before.

You should put some spin on the ball but I'm not sure you have the abilty to put as much action/spin on the ball as Kuerten or Federer. Just get the ball over the net with some spin. You're already putting pressure on your opponent by coming into net. Just be ready to make the volley and if he passes you then oh well. Try Again.

baleineau
Apr 4th, 2005, 12:30 AM
as volcana said, you don't have to go for a winner at this stage. your big aggressive shot has put you half way there, but don't think you have to completely finish the point on the next stroke. consider playing 2 more shots, the first being an approach shot, the second being a winning volley. you could be putting too much pressure on yourself by expecting to hit a winner off that next ball. it's easier said than done, and you're not playing the percentages. obviously if you're 6-2 4-1 and feeling very confident, it's a different story, but not when it's 6-4 3-3

kiwifan
Apr 4th, 2005, 01:37 AM
However, its a helluva lot more fun to hit the winner and send a message to your opponent...

..."no short shit punk"...

...put it away a couple of times and then there's one less shot you have to worry about the rest of the match. :hehehe: