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Wannabeknowitall
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:08 PM
I'm of course am a big fan of Lindsay but Lindsay isn't playing that great. She's still been consistent as usual but she's lost in 3 of 4 finals. She was very close to making it 4 for 4 against Jankovic. The number one has been for the taking for about 6 months now. Why hasn't anyone taken it?
Serena's chances are getting lower to take the number one before Roland Garros after her performance after the AO. Sharapova has been consistent but how will she play against Clijsters, Mauresmo, and Henin-Hardenne on clay when the number one ranking is on the line? Mauresmo has had 6 chances in 5 months for the number one ranking and she's folded under the pressure each time.
Sharapova has a chance now after Amelia Island but with her lost to Clijsters today she has to hope that Lindsay is inconsistent. Lindsay will have to lose before the SF of Amelia Island to lose number one now. If Sharapova would have won she would have put pressure on Lindsay win Amelia Island for her to keep number 1. Lindsay's chances for keeping number one for another month is high now. So who's going to step up and take the ranking from her before Roland Garros? Or will she actually keep it because noone will take it from her?

BK4ever
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:18 PM
Sharapova can't get to number 1 even if Davey loses in first round of Amelia.

RenaSlam.
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:19 PM
Well Sharapova isn't playing for a while, but she may get it before the French.

Brooks.
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:24 PM
i doubt if maria will get there now...............she'll probably have to hope for a least a semi at wimby this year and then she'll have more shots at it over the summer.........i just dont think she is going to outperform lindsay on the clay even if lindsay doesnt like the surface, its not exactly maria's cup a tea either

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:27 PM
Number one in tennis is a perk. Players want titles and if Number one comes, great. If not give them more titles and they'll be happy.

RenaSlam.
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:28 PM
Cybelle, great post. I totally agree.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:32 PM
Sharapova can't get to number 1 even if Davey loses in first round of Amelia.

If that's true what is going on then? Lindsay's playing good but she is no Hingis and she's been number one for about 5 months now.

Infiniti2001
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:34 PM
I'm of course am a big fan of Lindsay but Lindsay isn't playing that great. She's still been consistent as usual but she's lost in 3 of 4 finals. She was very close to making it 4 for 4 against Jankovic. The number one has been for the taking for about 6 months now. Why hasn't anyone taken it?
Serena's chances are getting lower to take the number one before Roland Garros after her performance after the AO. Sharapova has been consistent but how will she play against Clijsters, Mauresmo, and Henin-Hardenne on clay when the number one ranking is on the line? Mauresmo has had 6 chances in 5 months for the number one ranking and she's folded under the pressure each time.
Sharapova has a chance now after Amelia Island but with her lost to Clijsters today she has to hope that Lindsay is inconsistent. Lindsay will have to lose before the SF of Amelia Island to lose number one now. If Sharapova would have won she would have put pressure on Lindsay win Amelia Island for her to keep number 1. Lindsay's chances for keeping number one for another month is high now. So who's going to step up and take the ranking from her before Roland Garros? Or will she actually keep it because noone will take it from her?



Lindsay isn't playing that great? Gosh, how did she manage to double-bagel tennis's new golden girl then?:shrug: Oh wait, it was the wind :p

fammmmedspin
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:34 PM
Number one in tennis is a perk. Players want titles and if Number one comes, great. If not give them more titles and they'll be happy.

Doubt it. The records for GS wins have been moved out of reach by Graf and Court. Titles only look impressive when you get to 30 plus. If Maria, her sponsors and the WTA are setting goals for themselves number 1 is the best one going for the near future and the opposition for it is very beatable.

BK4ever
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:34 PM
Number one in tennis is a perk. Players want titles and if Number one comes, great. If not give them more titles and they'll be happy.

so true, but all of Maria's endorsements are heavily tied to performance, I'm sure her bonus for getting to #1 is huge, so she definitely wants to get there.

If Davey goes deep at Amelia and FCC it will make the race even tighter.

Infiniti2001
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:39 PM
i doubt if maria will get there now...............she'll probably have to hope for a least a semi at wimby this year and then she'll have more shots at it over the summer.........i just dont think she is going to outperform lindsay on the clay even if lindsay doesnt like the surface, its not exactly maria's cup a tea either

Lindsay and Momo both need to send flowers to Kim :lol:

fammmmedspin
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:42 PM
If that's true what is going on then? Lindsay's playing good but she is no Hingis and she's been number one for about 5 months now.

Her number 2 can't win anything big. Maria is still adding to her points which come largely from the second half of last year. Serena needs the French and is undermined by other interests, injury and a limited schedule even if you think she still has enough game. Kim needs another 3700 points and thanks to a ranking system that puts too much weight on GS she may need all 3 of the next GS to get there. Sveta is in a lapse. Myskina isn't getting to the right point in the draw to beat her again. Lindsay is winning enough tournaments and getting to enough finals to stay ahead of that combination.

!<blocparty>!
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:47 PM
Lindsay isnt playing great tennis, really. I don't know where she's at right now. Played like crap in aus to get to the final, needed to play well for like 3 more games and the title could have been hers but she tanked it.

OK, she was injured in Tokyo, but had a chance to win there.

Dubai :bolt: Scraped through against Patty and Jankovic.

IW - She played OK, nothing spectacular except that semi (which I didn't see) And got beat by Kim in the final playing great tennis. Kim destroyed this weeks field so it was no disgrace losing there.

She needs to step it up, theres no doubt about that, and if anyone (including me) is to take her seriously again she needs to perfrom at the all england club - big serving, big groundies and hammer her opponents coming into the quarters and bring back the 2000 Lindsay.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:48 PM
Lindsay isn't playing that great? Gosh, how did she manage to double-bagel tennis's new golden girl then?:shrug: Oh wait, it was the wind :p

I'm just looking at Lindsay from last year. She won 7 titles last year. She was 7-2 in finals last year. She's 1-3 this year. I remember in 2002-2003 when Lindsay just could not win a final to save the life of her. She was 1-9 from 2002-2003 in finals. She was 7-3 in finals in 2001. Lindsay is the type of player that if she starts losing in finals over and over again starts to wonder if she can do any better than losing in finals. She wants to win not to just be a finalist which is why she considered retiring in the first place.

PaulieM
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:50 PM
because everytime that amelie has the chance she chokes. hopefully she'll do it soon. :D

harloo
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:53 PM
Lindsay is just consistent. She reaches semis are rarely loses until the final.

Infiniti2001
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:58 PM
I'm just looking at Lindsay from last year. She won 7 titles last year. She was 7-2 in finals last year. She's 1-3 this year. I remember in 2002-2003 when Lindsay just could not win a final to save the life of her. She was 1-9 from 2002-2003 in finals. She was 7-3 in finals in 2001. Lindsay is the type of player that if she starts losing in finals over and over again starts to wonder if she can do any better than losing in finals. She wants to win not to just be a finalist which is why she considered retiring in the first place.

I was just being a PITA :p Meanwhile a win today would have worked in Maria's favor . She has a couple of round of 16s and then quarters at RG coming off. Then comes Eastbourne where she defends championship points and then Wimbledon. So by May-June, her road could get rough.

starr
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:13 PM
Number one in tennis is a perk. Players want titles and if Number one comes, great. If not give them more titles and they'll be happy.

Or they can just pretend they are number one :)

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:23 PM
I was just being a PITA :p Meanwhile a win today would have worked in Maria's favor . She has a couple of round of 16s and then quarters at RG coming off. Then comes Eastbourne where she defends championship points and then Wimbledon. So by May-June, her road could get rough.

Sharapova didn't play eastbourne. She played Birmingham. I made the same mistake for some odd reason. Lindsay has always been consistent but is she as consistent as Hingis was when she was number one without a slam?

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:26 PM
I'm of course am a big fan of Lindsay but Lindsay isn't playing that great. She's still been consistent as usual but she's lost in 3 of 4 finals. She was very close to making it 4 for 4 against Jankovic. The number one has been for the taking for about 6 months now. Why hasn't anyone taken it?
Serena's chances are getting lower to take the number one before Roland Garros after her performance after the AO. Sharapova has been consistent but how will she play against Clijsters, Mauresmo, and Henin-Hardenne on clay when the number one ranking is on the line? Mauresmo has had 6 chances in 5 months for the number one ranking and she's folded under the pressure each time.
Sharapova has a chance now after Amelia Island but with her lost to Clijsters today she has to hope that Lindsay is inconsistent. Lindsay will have to lose before the SF of Amelia Island to lose number one now. If Sharapova would have won she would have put pressure on Lindsay win Amelia Island for her to keep number 1. Lindsay's chances for keeping number one for another month is high now. So who's going to step up and take the ranking from her before Roland Garros? Or will she actually keep it because noone will take it from her?

Well I have thought long and hard on this issue and I think the number one reason no one can or will take the Number One Spot from Lindsay is.... cooties.

Yes, Lindsay knew better than to let the whipper snappers and youngsters take her number one spot so she contracted cooties on purpose! The gall! The nerve! The daring!

Allegedly she contracted the case of cooties on the set of seasme streer from Oscar the Grouch.

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:27 PM
Or they can just pretend they are number one :)

This works as well. Just ask Serena. LoL.

starr
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:27 PM
I'm all for Serena pretending she's number one. :devil:

AkademiQ
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:29 PM
This works as well. Just ask Serena. LoL.

As long as she repeats her winning performances like the AO, then Serena can pretend all she wants :)

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:01 PM
As long as she repeats her winning performances like the AO, then Serena can pretend all she wants :)

You really think Serena can repeat her winning performance with the way she's been playing? I doubt it. Miami was her tourni to win and she did not act like it. She'll have to play like the slams are already hers to win them. She was very tentative against Venus. Venus did play great but Serena played a little too sloppy and by the time she upped her game is was too late. She's cannot do that at the French. She has to go for her shots over and over again. If she let's someone in the match on clay then her opponent will take full advantage of it.

Shonami Slam
Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:33 PM
bah.
i love it when people doubt the world number one.
"oh yeah, she sux, totally!"
well... she does win matches, titles, slams - but it's only a fluke, eh?
get it over with.
lindsay, serena, venus, momo, kim, JHH and the rest of the "former #1s" are amazing players anyday of the year.
why deny them of that? becfause you like someone else better?
sheesh.

ceiling_fan
Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:34 PM
I think Lindsay is good! But maybe not as good as Serena or Maria... maybe she is more consistent against lower-ranked opponents, etc

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:57 PM
I think Lindsay is underrated. She has been in the finals of every tournament she's played this year. No one else on the tour can claim that.

PatM04
Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:16 AM
If Lindsay stays consistent, she should keep it for a while. She gained a lot of points at Australia, lost minimal points in Tokyo which she more than gained back in the middle east. She defended her IW points as well. Now, she has a very tough tourney ahead of her with Amelia Island right around the corner. I do think that if she gets through Venus she might defend. It seems like its going to be one of those tourneys that she is going to have to beat both sisters to win. Even if she defends just a few of her points there she should be ok. After that, she should gain points at FCC because she lost in the quarters there last year and I see her making at least a semi there. Plus, I hear she is playing Rome this year and she didn't play anything but Strasbourg last year. If she makes a quarter at Rome that should more than make up for her final loss at Strasbourg last year. My guess is that she'll keep the number one ranking until Wimbledon.

Veenut
Apr 3rd, 2005, 01:06 AM
According to what I've been hearing lately on the WTA, obtaining the #1 position is due to being consistent. Well Lindsay is doing just that, consistently reaching final, and if she can maintain that in all the her tournies, then she will have no problem keeping the position for the rest of the year.

Kim proves that presently the rankings are just numbers for seeding purposes. If you are able to defeat your opponents and win the trophy that is what matters not the number beside your name. I don't know why the WTA doesn't adopt the ATP system because it seem to rank the players better.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 3rd, 2005, 01:09 AM
If Lindsay stays consistent, she should keep it for a while. She gained a lot of points at Australia, lost minimal points in Tokyo which she more than gained back in the middle east. She defended her IW points as well. Now, she has a very tough tourney ahead of her with Amelia Island right around the corner. I do think that if she gets through Venus she might defend. It seems like its going to be one of those tourneys that she is going to have to beat both sisters to win. Even if she defends just a few of her points there she should be ok. After that, she should gain points at FCC because she lost in the quarters there last year and I see her making at least a semi there. Plus, I hear she is playing Rome this year and she didn't play anything but Strasbourg last year. If she makes a quarter at Rome that should more than make up for her final loss at Strasbourg last year. My guess is that she'll keep the number one ranking until Wimbledon.


Hmmm. Sneaky Lindsay possibly playing Rome. She really wants that one seed for Roland Garros. Good for her.

KingA
Apr 3rd, 2005, 01:30 AM
Sharapova can't get to number 1 even if Davey loses in first round of Amelia.

Yes. At least for the next two weeks.

Lindsay will stay at her #1 position even after her ranking points that she has gained from last year's win at Amelia Island coming off.

And Lindsay will play at Charleston as well this year, I believe she will gain more points from there and holding her #1 position longer.

FaceyFacem
Apr 3rd, 2005, 01:31 AM
lindsay doesn't really have points to defend, and since that is the way the system works, it makes total sense no one has taken it...serena had tons in miami, maria didn't have very many but lindsay and she just about matched each other, and amelie's choked everytime, in your own post, you said almost exactly all the reasons...i think maria has a good chance to get it before roland garros if she plays the clay tier 1s that lindsay doesn't, maria will have to get it pre-Wimbledon obviously though, amelie will have to defend like crazy then have a superb (read win) french to get it anymore i think, watch out for serena of course though, very few pts leading to paris, but she too can't gain too many more at wimbledon
overall predictions:
maria will get it pre-french although lindsay might take it back
serena won't play enough to get it pre french, but maybe at the french depending on results
amelie/anastasia will sink back to lower half of top 10 while kim (and maybe justine) will ascend back to the top of the game

wateva
Apr 3rd, 2005, 01:53 AM
because amelie is the contender for the number 1 spot and we know how sucky she gets when it comes to becoming number and and winning big matches! :p

Andrew.
Apr 3rd, 2005, 03:40 AM
Lindsay has nothing big to defend from after Amelia Island until the summer. QF at Charleston, F at Strasbourg and 4r at RG. Lindsay has this ranking for at least another few weeks, and really the only place she could lose it would be in the dead middle of clay season to Sharapova. Amelie will be out of this race at that point. A ton of her points come from the red clay season. Once RG completes, Lindsay should be at #1 again. Both Maria, Serena and Amelie have QF points to defend there. Lindsay has 4r points, and very low quality points. And by Wimbledon, Lindsay should really have a pretty big lead at number one. She got a semi there with pretty low quality points, while Maria has TONS to defend during the grass season.

So, while Lindsay may lose the #1 ranking for a couple of weeks during the clay season, she's almost sure of getting it back by the end of it or by Wimbledon, and the could probably hold it through a majority of the summer. Stanford win had low quality points, LA is where she would start to have problems, and probably San Diego would finish it off. Still, judging by past results at those tournaments, she's not going to just go out in the quarters of each. She has a good shot at defending at least one title this summer, probably more.

RenaSlam.
Apr 3rd, 2005, 03:48 AM
Nice to see you back, Andrew.

Andrew.
Apr 3rd, 2005, 03:59 AM
Not back yet. :(

Amanda still won't unban my IP address.

rue
Apr 3rd, 2005, 04:03 AM
People should not forget that Lindsay won the most titles of anyone that plays on the tour right now and that is a major accomplishment there. She may not have won a grandslam in years, but she is a true champion and deserves to be the world number one until someone takes it away from her whether it be Amelie, Serena or Maria.

Volcana
Apr 3rd, 2005, 07:20 AM
I'm of course am a big fan of Lindsay but Lindsay isn't playing that great. She's still been consistent as usual but she's lost in 3 of 4 finals. She was very close to making it 4 for 4 against Jankovic. The number one has been for the taking for about 6 months now.Therein lies your fundamental error. The number one ranking HASN'T been there for the taking. What we've seen since the US Open is Lindsay Davenport and a rotating cast competing at the top of the tour. Kuznetsova, Serena, Sharapova, Mauresmo and now Clijsters. All have had their turns sharing the top with Lindsay. But Lindsay's in the finals more than everybody else.

Look at 2005.

LD - 4 finals in five tournaments
SW - 1 finals in four tournaments
MS - 2 finals in five tournaments
KC - 2 finals in three tournaments
AM - 2 finals in six tournaments

........................__.__..................... .......
...............CH.......SW.SW..................... .......
...............FR.......LD.LD.__.............__.__ .__.__.
............CH SF....__.MS.MS.MS.__.__.__.__.KC.KC.KC.KC.
.........CH FR QF.__....AM.AM.LD.xx.AM.MS.LD.LD.LD.MS.MS.
......CH FR SF 16................AM..........MS.MS.AM.AM.
...CH FR SF QF 32......................AM.SW.......SW.SW.
CH FR SF QF 16 64....LD.......SW....KC...................
FR SF QF 16 32 r1............................AM.AM.......
SF QF 16 32 64 --........................................
T5 T4 T3 T2 T1 GS 03 10 17 24 31 07 14 21 28 07 14 21 28
-- -- -- -- -- -- 01 01 01 01 01 02 02 02 02 03 03 03 03

I missed somebody at Sydney, but you see the pattern. Everybody else comes and goes. Lindsay is consistently at the top. The number ranking ISN'T there for the taking. Lindsay has held it close.

Odd
Apr 3rd, 2005, 07:32 AM
Therein lies your fundamental error. The number one ranking HASN'T been there for the taking. What we've seen since the US Open is Lindsay Davenport and a rotating cast competing at the top of the tour. Kuznetsova, Serena, Sharapova, Mauresmo and now Clijsters. All have had their turns sharing the top with Lindsay. But Lindsay's in the finals more than everybody else.

Look at 2005.

LD - 4 finals in five tournaments
SW - 1 finals in four tournaments
MS - 2 finals in five tournaments
KC - 2 finals in three tournaments
AM - 2 finals in six tournaments

........................__.__..................... .......
...............CH.......SW.SW..................... .......
...............FR.......LD.LD.__.............__.__ .__.__.
............CH SF....__.MS.MS.MS.__.__.__.__.KC.KC.KC.KC.
.........CH FR QF.__....AM.AM.LD.MS.AM.xx.LD.LD.LD.MS.MS.
......CH FR SF 16................AM..........MS.MS.AM.AM.
...CH FR SF QF 32......................AM.SW.......SW.SW.
CH FR SF QF 16 64....LD.......SW....KC...................
FR SF QF 16 32 r1............................AM.AM.......
SF QF 16 32 64 --........................................
T5 T4 T3 T2 T1 GS 03 10 17 24 31 07 14 21 28 07 14 21 28
-- -- -- -- -- -- 01 01 01 01 01 02 02 02 02 03 03 03 03

I missed somebody at Sydney, but you see the pattern. Everybody else comes and goes. Lindsay is consistently at the top. The number ranking ISN'T there for the taking. Lindsay has held it close.


I think it was safina who beat mauresmo in paris (7-02), not sharapova, and the XX is sharapova.

Davenport definately isnt going as bad as people may think. She has made the final in every event this year she has contested except sydney, where she pulled out with bronchitis or something like that.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 3rd, 2005, 08:18 AM
People should not forget that Lindsay won the most titles of anyone that plays on the tour right now and that is a major accomplishment there. She may not have won a grandslam in years, but she is a true champion and deserves to be the world number one until someone takes it away from her whether it be Amelie, Serena or Maria.

Ummm...Did you add in the 5 chances that Amelia has had in 5 months. Let me write them down for you so you can add that to ur table.
YEC...failed...AO...failed...Doha...failed...India n Wells... failed... Miami...failed...

What she had to do to get to number one... YEC...the finals... AO...finals... Doha...win after just beating Antwerp... Indian Wells...win...Miami...win...
and if she at least got to the finals of 3 out of 5 of those tournis.. she would be number one now.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 3rd, 2005, 08:22 AM
Therein lies your fundamental error. The number one ranking HASN'T been there for the taking. What we've seen since the US Open is Lindsay Davenport and a rotating cast competing at the top of the tour. Kuznetsova, Serena, Sharapova, Mauresmo and now Clijsters. All have had their turns sharing the top with Lindsay. But Lindsay's in the finals more than everybody else.

Look at 2005.

LD - 4 finals in five tournaments
SW - 1 finals in four tournaments
MS - 2 finals in five tournaments
KC - 2 finals in three tournaments
AM - 2 finals in six tournaments

........................__.__..................... .......
...............CH.......SW.SW..................... .......
...............FR.......LD.LD.__.............__.__ .__.__.
............CH SF....__.MS.MS.MS.__.__.__.__.KC.KC.KC.KC.
.........CH FR QF.__....AM.AM.LD.MS.AM.xx.LD.LD.LD.MS.MS.
......CH FR SF 16................AM..........MS.MS.AM.AM.
...CH FR SF QF 32......................AM.SW.......SW.SW.
CH FR SF QF 16 64....LD.......SW....KC...................
FR SF QF 16 32 r1............................AM.AM.......
SF QF 16 32 64 --........................................
T5 T4 T3 T2 T1 GS 03 10 17 24 31 07 14 21 28 07 14 21 28
-- -- -- -- -- -- 01 01 01 01 01 02 02 02 02 03 03 03 03

I missed somebody at Sydney, but you see the pattern. Everybody else comes and goes. Lindsay is consistently at the top. The number ranking ISN'T there for the taking. Lindsay has held it close.


Ignore that reply rue. I'm a tad tire. It being 4 in the morning.

Ummm...Did you add in the 5 chances that Amelia has had in 5 months. Let me write them down for you so you can add that to ur table.
YEC...failed...AO...failed...Doha...failed...India n Wells... failed... Miami...failed...

What she had to do to get to number one... YEC...the finals... AO...two rounds better than Lindsay... Doha...win after just beating Antwerp... Indian Wells...win...Miami...win...
and if she at least got to the finals of 3 out of 5 of those tournis.. she would be number one now.

Volcana
Apr 3rd, 2005, 09:34 AM
What she had to do to get to number one... YEC...the finals... AO...two rounds better than Lindsay... Doha...win after just beating Antwerp... Indian Wells...win...Miami...win...
and if she at least got to the finals of 3 out of 5 of those tournis.. she would be number one now.And Lindsay kept playing better than her. 'There for the taking' means the current #1 couldn't do anything about it. He did. She has. Repeatedly. Especially in the big tournaments where they both play, like OZ and IW.

This kind of reminds me of how people treated Ivan Lendl as a 'caretaker #1' until a real dominant player came along. He kept the #1 ranking for four years. Lindsay's not in that class, of course but she's the big girl on the top of the mountain, and she's not just keeping the spot warm til a real #1 comes along.

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 3rd, 2005, 09:41 AM
And Lindsay kept playing better than her. 'There for the taking' means the current #1 couldn't do anything about it. He did. She has. Repeatedly. Especially in the big tournaments where they both play, like OZ and IW.

This kind of reminds me of how people treated Ivan Lendl as a 'caretaker #1' until a real dominant player came along. He kept the #1 ranking for four years. Lindsay's not in that class, of course but she's the big girl on the top of the mountain, and she's not just keeping the spot warm til a real #1 comes along.

The number one couldn't do anything about Mauresmo playing at Doha. Lindsay wasn't playing. Mauresmo had no points to defend. So yes. At that tourni there was nothing Lindsay could do if Mauresmo took the number one.

andrewbroad
Apr 8th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Maria Sharapova would have overtaken Lindsay Davenport by now, were it not that she is only seventeen! ;)

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