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lizchris
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:13 PM
Updated: 11:00 AM EST
Tennis-Sharapova ponders her Russian Fed Cup future
By Gennady Fyodorov, Reuters

MOSCOW, April 1 (Reuters) - Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova has 10 days to decide whether to join the Russian Fed Cup team, the country's tennis chief said on Friday.
"She received a firm offer to join our squad for a first round tie against Italy on April 23-24," Shamil Tarpishchev, who is also Russia's Fed Cup captain, told Reuters in an interview.

Tarpishchev had just returned from Miami where he spent several days trying to persuade the 17-year-old and her father Yuri to commit themselves to Russia's cause.

"It's basically very simply. She (Sharapova) must say yes or no before April 10 when I will announce the team," he said. "So we'll just wait and see what happens and take it from there."

He refused to be drawn on media speculation that the Florida-based Russian might reject the offer and switch her allegiance to the U.S.,:eek: where she has lived since childhood.

Russian press has reported that the Siberian-born player was invited to join the U.S. Fed Cup team last year and although Sharapova denied any offer was made, questions about her future remain.:eek:

Sharapova has been in great form, beating former world number ones Venus Williams and Justine Henin-Hardene this week to reach the Nasdaq-100 final.

Victory over Belgian Kim Clijsters in Saturday's final would take Sharapova to number two in the world.

"No question, Sharapova has been our best and most consistent player so far this year and if she commits herself to playing for Russia, we definitely have a great chance of defending our Fed Cup title," Tarpishchev said.

He also said that French Open champion Anastasia Myskina and beaten finalist Elena Dementieva had already made themselves available to play against Italy.

INTERNAL SQUABBLES

On paper, Russia would have the strongest squad with possibly three grand slam champions in Myskina, Sharapova and U.S. Open winner Svetlana Kuznetsova and Dementieva joining forces.

But internal problems could spoil Russia's campaign.

Myskina led Russia to their first Fed Cup title on home soil last November, winning her two singles rubbers against defending champions France before teaming up with Vera Zvonareva in the decisive doubles to clinch a 3-2 victory.

The triumph, however, was overshadowed by squabbles in the Russian camp after Myskina accused Sharapova and her father of being disrespectful to her.

Myskina said she would not play for Russia if the Wimbledon champion was invited to join the team next year.

The two players have since publicly patched up their differences, although Tarpishchev will have a tough job moulding his temperamental charges together to make a strong team.

To make matters worse, Dementieva and Kuznetsova had a verbal spat shortly after their heated showdown in last year's U.S. Open final.

"Well, I'm not a babysitter and this is not a kindergarten," Tarpishchev said in reference to the Fed Cup team.

"We have certain rules within the team that everyone must follow. Otherwise, they're out. As for Sharapova, it's up to her to decide. The ball is clearly in her court now," he added.

_LuCaS_
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:21 PM
US team is crowded as well

Szymanowski
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:23 PM
She could come + play for us in england :D

DA FOREHAND
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:25 PM
She should do a Pierce and either play for France or Canada.

lizchris
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:29 PM
US team is crowded as well

Contrary to popluar belief, we can actually fill two Fed Cup squads, with or without Sharapova.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:31 PM
Don't need her and don't want her on the US team.

ys
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:32 PM
Contrary to popluar belief, we can actually fill two Fed Cup squads, with or without Sharapova.

We'll see what kind of squad will you fill for the tie in Moscow on indoors clay next week after Wimbledon.. :lol:

lizchris
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:45 PM
We'll see what kind of squad will you fill for the tie in Moscow on indoors clay next week after Wimbledon.. :lol:


Who says Russia will get to the next round?

We know America will

harloo
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:55 PM
If Maria switches nationalities ys will be heartbroken.:sad: :lol:

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:58 PM
If Maria switches nationalities ys will be heartbroken.:sad: :lol:

Do it Maria Do it!:lol:

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:58 PM
If Maria switches nationalities ys will be heartbroken.:sad: :lol:

She's a product of America anyway. She's about as Russian as McDonalds.

shap_half
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:05 PM
I think it's slightly rude and insulting to Myskina for the Fed Cup captain to invite Sharapova to play for their team. Myskina has done a lot for this team.

I also think that switching nationalities is not particularly repectful. Sharapova has vowed up and down a wall that she is Russian and blah and blah and how even to consider switching is deceptive and rude. I would never in my life switch my nationality. I would rather receive dual citizenship than lose my Philippine nationality. It's something I take pride in and I've always thought that with Sharapova's wanting to play Fed Cup for Russia and her constant defence of her being Russian that being Russian is something she took pride in as well. I hope that this is nothing but a rumor.

Elldee
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:07 PM
Sharapova is very proud to be Russian, she won't be changing. Also this year the Russians need her, she's had an awesome year.

the cat
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:16 PM
I'm not so sure ys would be heartbroken harloo. Afterall Masha is a Russian citizen living in America just like he is. It's going around. ;)

And how mnay times does Masha have to say she's staying a Russian citizen and wants to play Fed Cup for Russia?

waratahsrock
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:20 PM
He refused to be drawn on media speculation that the Florida-based Russian might reject the offer and switch her allegiance to the U.S.,:eek: where she has lived since childhood.

Russian press has reported that the Siberian-born player was invited to join the U.S. Fed Cup team last year and although Sharapova denied any offer was made, questions about her future remain.:eek:



Maria has stated many times that she'd love to represent Russia. There is no way in hell she'd even consider playing for the U.S.
She's just stalling her decision at the moment because she is carrying an injury and is in need of some rest.

"media speculation" :rolleyes: i used to think that Rugby media were shit, but Tennis media make them look good!

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:24 PM
Maria has stated many times that she'd love to represent Russia. There is no way in hell she'd even consider playing for the U.S.


Thank God!!!:rolleyes:

Pengwin
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:39 PM
If she joined Britain :worship:

.ivy.
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:44 PM
She's a product of America anyway. She's about as Russian as McDonalds.

:lol: :lol:

.ivy.
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:46 PM
I think it's slightly rude and insulting to Myskina for the Fed Cup captain to invite Sharapova to play for their team. Myskina has done a lot for this team.

I also think that switching nationalities is not particularly repectful. Sharapova has vowed up and down a wall that she is Russian and blah and blah and how even to consider switching is deceptive and rude. I would never in my life switch my nationality. I would rather receive dual citizenship than lose my Philippine nationality. It's something I take pride in and I've always thought that with Sharapova's wanting to play Fed Cup for Russia and her constant defence of her being Russian that being Russian is something she took pride in as well. I hope that this is nothing but a rumor.

If she's sworn up and down, why hasn't she said yes yet? I agree with you, I think it's really rude to Myskina who brought the cup home last year, to have the coach invite her (sharapova), after she kept saying she'd leave.

TakeThat
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:49 PM
Don't need her and don't want her on the US team.
Why? Afraid she'll be the center of attention? :rolleyes:

Crazy Canuck
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:53 PM
If she's sworn up and down, why hasn't she said yes yet? I agree with you, I think it's really rude to Myskina who brought the cup home last year, to have the coach invite her (sharapova), after she kept saying she'd leave.
This Myskina stuff is old news. She said it was no longer an issue quite some time ago. Unless I missed something new.

DementievaPowa
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:53 PM
i loooooooooooove masha!!

poor venus/serena tho they'll be kicked off the team :eek:

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:58 PM
Why? Afraid she'll be the center of attention? :rolleyes:
What part of the word "need" don't you understand? :retard:

Reasons:
We have Serena who beat her at the Aussie semi and Lindsay, who whipped her like a step child and made her eat two bagels at Indian Wells. :)

Then there's Venus, who will beat her next time they meet. :)

xan
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:59 PM
If she's sworn up and down, why hasn't she said yes yet? I agree with you, I think it's really rude to Myskina who brought the cup home last year, to have the coach invite her (sharapova), after she kept saying she'd leave.

It's nothing to do with Myskina, who is selected for the team. That's the decision of the coach and selectors. If one of the players has a hissy fit, that's that player's problem.

Pureracket
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:01 PM
Well, she would be crazy to switch from the Russian team. Part of her financial appeal is that she is Russian. Then again, this is her moment in the sun, and this must be a very exciting time for her.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:02 PM
i loooooooooooove masha!!

poor venus/serena tho they'll be kicked off the team :eek:
:retard:

Malin
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:06 PM
What part of the word "need" don't you understand? :retard:

Reasons:
We have Serena who beat her at the Aussie semi and Lindsay, who whipped her like a step child and made her eat two bagels at Indian Wells. :)

Then there's Venus, who will beat her next time they meet. :)

umm this makes no sense, so your just basing your opinion on their last meetings? She has a winning head to head against venus and lindsay and is tied with serena. Granted the US does not need her, but I wouldn't use her last matches againt serena and lindsay as a reason why, when she has proven that she is very capable of beating them.

TakeThat
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:11 PM
What part of the word "need" don't you understand? :retard:
What part of the word "want" don't you understand? That's what I was questioning, darling. Btw, I think if you want to see :retard: look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Denise4925
Don't need her and don't want her on the US team.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:14 PM
umm this makes no sense, so your just basing your opinion on their last meetings? She has a winning head to head against venus and lindsay and is tied with serena. Granted the US does not need her, but I wouldn't use her last matches againt serena and lindsay as a reason why, when she has proven that she is very capable of beating them.
What you say makes no sense. Likewise, we don't need her when they have proven that they are very capable of beating her. If you don't like that reason, how about this, they are better tennis players than she is, all three are multiple grand slam winners and current and former No. 1's. Maria has yet to attain the No. 1 ranking and has only won one slam. Is that reason enough?

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:16 PM
What part of the word "want" don't you understand? That's what I was questioning, darling. Btw, I think if you want to see :retard: look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Denise4925
Be more specific honeypie. Okay, how's this for a reason. We don't want her because No. 1, she's not an American and No. 2, we don't NEED her. :retard: You might want to look in the mirror again. :hehehe:

Rocketta
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:35 PM
She can play for the Russian team if she wants...

She can play for the USA team if she wants...

God help me but I'm going to use her age as a reason not to hold to her swearing up and down she would never change nationalities...things change in life sometimes. :shrug:

harloo
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:40 PM
She can play for the Russian team if she wants...

She can play for the USA team if she wants...

God help me but I'm going to use her age as a reason not to hold to her swearing up and down she would never change nationalities...things change in life sometimes. :shrug:

Well Rocketta, She's only 17.;)

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:42 PM
She can play for the Russian team if she wants...

She can play for the USA team if she wants...
God help me but I'm going to use her age as a reason not to hold to her swearing up and down she would never change nationalities...things change in life sometimes. :shrug:
No she can't. :(

kabuki
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:57 PM
Maria will play for who she wants, and if she is representing the USA I will wholeheartedly support her. :)

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:00 PM
Maria will play for who she wants, and if she is representing the USA I will wholeheartedly support her. :)

I thought you had to be invited and I hadn't heard that she was.

kabuki
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:01 PM
I thought you had to be invited and I hadn't heard that she was.

You seriously think that the US doesn't want her?

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:06 PM
You seriously think that the US doesn't want her?
Yes I do.

kabuki
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:11 PM
Yes I do.

1. Maria is very popular with many folks
2. Maria is talented
3. Maria is a proven winner
4. Maria is 5 +1/2 years younger than Serena, 7 years Venus, 12 years Linds, JCap.

I believe the US would take her in a heartbeat, especially with NO serious American contenders coming down the pike.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:17 PM
1. Maria is very popular with many folks
2. Maria is talented
3. Maria is a proven winner
4. Maria is 5 +1/2 years younger than Serena, 7 years Venus, 12 years Linds, JCap.

I believe the US would take her in a heartbeat, especially with NO serious American contenders coming down the pike.
Okay I'll add a caveat, maybe in the future, but not now. I don't think she's very popular in the US though. She wasn't well received in LA or Miami by the fans, so I don't know about how her popularity here will pan out.

Kart
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:19 PM
I don't see why the US wouldn't take Maria onto their team if she made herself eligible.

Would be a smart move seeing that she's shaping up to be a formidable opponent.

Not that I believe for one second that Daddy Sharapova or Maria herself are at all interested in playing for US.

More likely they can wait out for Myskina to be dropped for poor form which won't be long at the rate she's going :(.

DementievaPowa
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:20 PM
Okay I'll add a caveat, maybe in the future, but not now. I don't think she's very popular in the US though. She wasn't well received in LA or Miami by the fans, so I don't know about how her popularity here will pan out.


shes the most searched, talked about, adored, has more websites player of 2004 and 2005 :D

shes the only player with anna k. that everyone knows

Volcana
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:21 PM
Where's are the 'hints' about switching nationality? Other than the author of the article, no one quoted in it had a thing to say about that.

kabuki
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:22 PM
Okay I'll add a caveat, maybe in the future, but not now. I don't think she's very popular in the US though. She wasn't well received in LA or Miami by the fans, so I don't know about how her popularity here will pan out.

Linds and Jen could be done any minute. Vee and Ree are not always and forever going to be able and healthy to play every tie.

Maria struggles with the US public stem from-

1. An obnoxious father
2. Her in your face competitiveness
3. Her tendency to keep to herself
4. Her lack of "respect" for the established stars.

Sound like anyone(s) you know? :scratch:

The public will ultimately embrace her. Tomorrow will be interesting to see who is rooted for.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:23 PM
Where's are the 'hints' about switching nationality? Other than the author of the article, no one quoted in it had a thing to say about that.
But more importantly, no one on the US side has expressed any interest. Even if she did switch nationalities, do you think that Zina and BJK are really going to replace either Lindsay, Serena and Venus with Maria? :confused: :lol: Come on.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:25 PM
Linds and Jen could be done any minute. Vee and Ree are not always and forever going to be able and healthy to play every tie.

Maria struggles with the US public stem from-

1. An obnoxious father
2. Her in your face competitiveness
3. Her tendency to keep to herself
4. Her lack of "respect" for the established stars.

Sound like anyone(s) you know? :scratch:

The public will ultimately embrace her. Tomorrow will be interesting to see who is rooted for.
Yeah, but this article is about now, not the future. And, I'll bet the farm the patrons will be rooting for Kim. :lol:

kabuki
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:27 PM
Yeah, but this article is about now, not the future. And, I'll bet the farm the patrons will be rooting for Kim. :lol:

How much do farms go for in Texas? :hehehe:

Sharapova's_Boy
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:33 PM
Maria's not being forced on anyone. But looking at the number of teenage Americans in the Top 100, I can see why many American selectors might be eyeing Maria enviously.

:yeah:

xan
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:40 PM
The majority of the public at Miami might well have been for Venus, but there was a good section cheering for Maria.

The incident at 2-2 in the first where Maria complained about the interruption of a rally by Venus fans showed both sets of fans in good voice. Anyway. I think all the fans respected Maria for standing up for herself.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:07 AM
Where's are the 'hints' about switching nationality? Other than the author of the article, no one quoted in it had a thing to say about that.


The author hinted based on rumors he heard, she didn't (that's why I didn't say she hints).

BTW, I believe Maria has to be a naturalized citizen of the US to play for Fed Cup and if she isn't, then she can't.

At the presen time, we don't need her. The US had a record 17 Fed Cups, I think and I don't think any country comes close. Even with all the talented players Russia has, it is ulikely that they will ever catch up to the US.

fammmmedspin
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:24 AM
Wouldn't it take time to become an Anerican? You can't just turn up and take out citizenship can you?

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:34 AM
Wouldn't it take time to become an Anerican? You can't just turn up and take out citizenship can you?


You have to be a legal resident for a period of time, then you have to apply for citizenship, take a test and then (I think) the results of tha test (and other things) determine whether or not you become a US citizen.

JenCpLvr
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:35 AM
Thank God!!!:rolleyes:

Please explain your disgust for Maria?

WIMBLY2004
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:50 AM
Q. Will you be playing for Russia for Fed Cup?

MARIA SHARAPOVA: Who else would I be playing for?

Maria has NO interest in playing for any other country, end of story.

Odd
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:54 AM
I think that the way maria has been promoted, if she played for anyone other than russia, it would just feel weird IMO.

Anyways, considering the fuss being made about no teenagers breaking through for the USA, i can understand if US tennis association were trying to bring her over.

I hope it doesnt happen though.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:58 AM
I think that the way maria has been promoted, if she played for anyone other than russia, it would just feel weird IMO.

Anyways, considering the fuss being made about no teenagers breaking through for the USA, i can understand if US tennis association were trying to bring her over.

I hope it doesnt happen though.


There are no great US teenager players, but that doesn't mean there won't be any in the future. What the US is going through right now is similar to what we went thorough in the early to mid-1990's and then in the late 1990's they came. I think we will have great teenagers in the next few years. By then Maria will be in her mid 20's.

mboyle
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:00 AM
Don't need her and don't want her on the US team.

Gee I didn't realize you were Zina Garrison:rolleyes: :yawn: ...

mboyle
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:02 AM
There are no great US teenager players, but that doesn't mean there won't be any in the future. What the US is going through right now is similar to what we went thorough in the early to mid-1990's and then in the late 1990's they came. I think we will have great teenagers in the next few years. By then Maria will be in her mid 20's.

No we won't. Everyone knew that Venus and Serena were in the pipes, Capriati too. No American junior girl has done anything of importance since Ashly Harkleroad in 2002, and she's fully fizzled out. (Jessica Kirkland doesn't count as she was three to four years older than the rest of the junior circuit when she did well.) US American Women's tennis doesn't have a bright future at the moment, unless we can convince some of the teens and pre-teens training at our academies to switch nationalities.

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:05 AM
Don't need her and don't want her on the US team.
:tape: speak for yourself.
a beautiful young blonde girl who can play a lot of tennis and is at the top would surely be great for US fed cup... bc there's no excitement for fedcup at all...

mboyle
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:07 AM
Yeah, but this article is about now, not the future. And, I'll bet the farm the patrons will be rooting for Kim. :lol:

Yeah, you do keep bringing up the fact that Maria has no fans. Too bad you're blatantly wrong. Everywhere Maria goes, she is one of, if not the top, draw. Remember an article early in this tournament? On media day, people ignored your beloved sisters and made a bee line for the siren from siberia. In the Venus match, people were clearly cheering for Maria (in every match I have seen recently, the crowd was at least 50-50, except against Lindsay in IW.)

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:07 AM
No we won't. Everyone knew that Venus and Serena were in the pipes, Capriati too. No American junior girl has done anything of importance since Ashly Harkleroad in 2002, and she's fully fizzled out. (Jessica Kirkland doesn't count as she was three to four years older than the rest of the junior circuit when she did well.) US American Women's tennis doesn't have a bright future at the moment, unless we can convince some of the teens and pre-teens training at our academies to switch nationalities.


Evenry one knew about Vneus and Serena, but not much was expected of them because they didn't play juniors, like Capriati, Davenport and Chanda Rubin did (there might have been a couple of others but I can't remember). True, American women's tennis doesn't have a bright future at the moment, but things can change, like they did in the late 1990's. You just don't know.

Babolatpro880
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:09 AM
I honestly don't think these rumors have much fact behind them, so I really don't see where the argument is when Maria almost definitely will never become an American citizen anyway.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:10 AM
:tape: speak for yourself.
a beautiful young blonde girl who can play a lot of tennis and is at the top would surely be great for US fed cup... bc there's no excitement for fedcup at all...


The fact that she is blonde has nothing to do with whether she can play or not.:rolleyes:

Fed Cup is not promoted well at all by the WTA; that is why there is no excitement about it.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:13 AM
Yeah, you do keep bringing up the fact that Maria has no fans. Too bad you're blatantly wrong. Everywhere Maria goes, she is one of, if not the top, draw. Remember an article early in this tournament? On media day, people ignored your beloved sisters and made a bee line for the siren from siberia. In the Venus match, people were clearly cheering for Maria (in every match I have seen recently, the crowd was at least 50-50, except against Lindsay in IW.)


For the most part, the media and the fans in the US never particualry liked the sisters, so what is the big deal? We all know that when the sisters play, most people in the stands root for their opponent.

Maria is a top draw, but not the top draw in North America. That honor, for now, still goes to Serena and to a lesser extent, Venus (she is tied with or slightly below Maria). Outside the US, especially in Asia, she is the top draw.

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:18 AM
The fact that she is blonde has nothing to do with whether she can play or not.:rolleyes:

Fed Cup is not promoted well at all by the WTA; that is why there is no excitement about it.
if there was more interest in things like fedcup, fedcup would have stronger showings, more tv coverage, more players, and would overall be better because of someone like maria sharapova... even if it's for a stupid reason like her being so attractive.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:22 AM
if there was more interest in things like fedcup, fedcup would have stronger showings, more tv coverage, more players, and would overall be better because of someone like maria sharapova... even if it's for a stupid reason like her being so attractive.


Again, it has to do with the WTA and the ITF, moreso the ITF.

Women's sports are not promoted well in the US and the only reason why we in the US know about women's tennis is mainly because of the Williams sisters (their matchs on EPSN and ESPN2 are some of the most watched in the history of the network). The same with women's soccer. It was because of Mia Hamm that it was popular.

SJW
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:51 AM
:tape: speak for yourself.
a beautiful young blonde girl who can play a lot of tennis and is at the top would surely be great for US fed cup... bc there's no excitement for fedcup at all...

what does being "beautiful" and blonde have to do with playing Fed Cup? :confused:

re. Maria. she wants to play for Russia not the US. end of story. go on with your bad self girl :cool: but if you come up against the US, sorry, but my allegiance is elsewhere :angel:

Junex
Apr 2nd, 2005, 01:53 AM
Who says Russia will get to the next round?

We know America will


You are talking like P-mac before the tie against Croatia! :lol: :lol:

of course, with a team having Agassia and Roddick, who would have thought the outcome, A first round ELIMINATION!

the lesson learned here, dnt feel too over confident in your team specially at Fed-Cup/DC where national pride is at stake!

Junex
Apr 2nd, 2005, 02:08 AM
The author hinted based on rumors he heard, she didn't (that's why I didn't say she hints).

BTW, I believe Maria has to be a naturalized citizen of the US to play for Fed Cup and if she isn't, then she can't.

At the presen time, we don't need her. The US had a record 17 Fed Cups, I think and I don't think any country comes close. Even with all the talented players Russia has, it is ulikely that they will ever catch up to the US.


I just want to ask, how many of that 17 Fed Cups America with Martina Nav and Monica Seles playing?

:angel:

SerialKiller#69
Apr 2nd, 2005, 02:36 AM
I don't like Maria but there is NO way that she will switch nationality. She's got too much pride of being a Russian and I don't see any upside as to being American. Maria wanna be a Russian star and there's just no glamour in being a Russian turned American.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 02:36 AM
You are talking like P-mac before the tie against Croatia! :lol: :lol:

of course, with a team having Agassia and Roddick, who would have thought the outcome, A first round ELIMINATION!

the lesson learned here, dnt feel too over confident in your team specially at Fed-Cup/DC where national pride is at stake!


I think the is a BIG difference between what the men faced against Croatia and what the women are facing vs. Belgium. Without Kim and Justine, their highest ranked player is at 180 or something. Even the Belgian fans on this board believe the US will sweep them 5-0.

griffin
Apr 2nd, 2005, 02:46 AM
:tape: speak for yourself.
a beautiful young blonde girl who can play a lot of tennis and is at the top would surely be great for US fed cup... bc there's no excitement for fedcup at all...

Speaking as someone who couldn't get tickets to the Fed Cup matches in Lowell, MA because having both Venus and Serena playing meant the place sold out within a day or so of the tickets being available to the general public...no, there's not much general excitement in the US about Fed Cup, but no, Maria won't "save" the situation, either.

Hey, if she wants to become a citizen or whatever it takes, and play for the US, more power to her. But what makes Fed Cup interesting to American audiences is big names - Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen, Monica...and Maria too if she does switch sides. If Venus and Serena (or Lins and Jen, or whoever and whoever else) are playing, people won't miss her. And vice versa.

lizchris
Apr 2nd, 2005, 02:51 AM
I just want to ask, how many of that 17 Fed Cups America with Martina Nav and Monica Seles playing?

:angel:

Monica was only on two winning teams (in 1996 and 2000; she became a US citizen in 1994). Martina Navratilova was only on the team since 1981 (when she became an American citizen). She played on the winning teams of 1982, 1986 and 1989, so as you can see, they didn't have the impact you think they did.

vettipooh
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:00 AM
Nah...let her play for Russia. I can just see it now....Fed Cup Finals...USA vs Russia. First rubber. Davenport defeats Sharapova....anyone care to guess the score????:lol:

squash
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:25 AM
Maria has stated this week that she would not play for any other team other than Russia.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:34 AM
How much do farms go for in Texas? :hehehe:
Quite a bit. ;)

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:38 AM
Gee I didn't realize you were Zina Garrison:rolleyes: :yawn: ...
There's a lot of things you fail to realize mboyle. :rolleyes: :yawn:

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:44 AM
:tape: speak for yourself.
a beautiful young blonde girl who can play a lot of tennis and is at the top would surely be great for US fed cup... bc there's no excitement for fedcup at all...
Oh, better than two black girls?

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:45 AM
Yeah, you do keep bringing up the fact that Maria has no fans. Too bad you're blatantly wrong. Everywhere Maria goes, she is one of, if not the top, draw. Remember an article early in this tournament? On media day, people ignored your beloved sisters and made a bee line for the siren from siberia. In the Venus match, people were clearly cheering for Maria (in every match I have seen recently, the crowd was at least 50-50, except against Lindsay in IW.)
:rolleyes: No, I don't remember that article. :lol: Produce it. Even if you can produce such an article, I'm supposed to take a possibly subjective article as truth? Please, it's been stated by a sports writer, in an email to me that the WTA is promoting Maria as the next best thing to sliced bread and the media is helping them. So, your point about Maria being a top draw at every tournament and a fan favorite is blanketed in subjective spin to make her appear to be the star of the WTA.

What statistical evidence do you have that the audience is at least 50-50, except against Lindsay at IW, other than your subjective optimism?

switz
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:50 AM
What part of the word "need" don't you understand? :retard:

Reasons:
We have Serena who beat her at the Aussie semi and Lindsay, who whipped her like a step child and made her eat two bagels at Indian Wells. :)

Then there's Venus, who will beat her next time they meet. :)

i don't like sharapova but if you're going to use bias like in your last line i have to rell you she is 2-2 with Serena (one match before she was elite and another she had multiple match points in. I call it 1-1 because she didn't really win the YEC champs), leads Lindsay 2-1, and leads Venus 2-0.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:57 AM
if there was more interest in things like fedcup, fedcup would have stronger showings, more tv coverage, more players, and would overall be better because of someone like maria sharapova... even if it's for a stupid reason like her being so attractive.
Physical attraction is purely a subjective thing, Dr. faboo.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:00 AM
Speaking as someone who couldn't get tickets to the Fed Cup matches in Lowell, MA because having both Venus and Serena playing meant the place sold out within a day or so of the tickets being available to the general public...no, there's not much general excitement in the US about Fed Cup, but no, Maria won't "save" the situation, either.

Hey, if she wants to become a citizen or whatever it takes, and play for the US, more power to her. But what makes Fed Cup interesting to American audiences is big names - Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen, Monica...and Maria too if she does switch sides. If Venus and Serena (or Lins and Jen, or whoever and whoever else) are playing, people won't miss her. And vice versa.
:worship: :worship: :worship:

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:01 AM
Oh, better than two black girls?
did i say that?
i never even mentioned the williams sisters or chanda rubin. nor did i say maria is better than any of those ladies for fed cup. they've all three done great things for the us.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:03 AM
i don't like sharapova but if you're going to use bias like in your last line i have to rell you she is 2-2 with Serena (one match before she was elite and another she had multiple match points in. I call it 1-1 because she didn't really win the YEC champs), leads Lindsay 2-1, and leads Venus 2-0.
I know what the head to head is with each. It's not bias. What does bias have to do with it?

Julia1968
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:08 AM
Speaking as someone who couldn't get tickets to the Fed Cup matches in Lowell, MA because having both Venus and Serena playing meant the place sold out within a day or so of the tickets being available to the general public...no, there's not much general excitement in the US about Fed Cup, but no, Maria won't "save" the situation, either.

Hey, if she wants to become a citizen or whatever it takes, and play for the US, more power to her. But what makes Fed Cup interesting to American audiences is big names - Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Jen, Monica...and Maria too if she does switch sides. If Venus and Serena (or Lins and Jen, or whoever and whoever else) are playing, people won't miss her. And vice versa.

When the US Fed Cup team played Israel (I think it was 2002 or 2003) in Springfield, Missouri, I easily got tickets while visiting relatives in St. Louis. Seles and Davenport were a big draw, but there were definitely empty seats. I think Springfield also has a WTT team called The Lasers.

Fed Cup doesn't generate as much excitement and spectators as Davis Cup. It never has. I also think that people are more interested in watching the semi and finals, when the top players converge. Locality and local tennis support plays a large role in how well Fed Cup is received.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:10 AM
did i say that?
i never even mentioned the williams sisters or chanda rubin. nor did i say maria is better than any of those ladies for fed cup. they've all three done great things for the us.
Please don't play dumb. :rolleyes: You distinguished them when you said the US Team would do better because they'll have a beautiful, blond girl who can play tennis. :rolleyes:

vogus
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:17 AM
i think sooner or later Masha is going to make the switch. People aren't buying her Russian shtick, mainly because the Russians who actually live in Russia don't accept her as one of their own. They don't really want her playing on the Russian team. And Masha can solidify her status (which she already more or less has achieved) as the USA's new white tennis darling, if she makes her nationality change official.

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:27 AM
Please don't play dumb. :rolleyes: You distinguished them when you said the US Team would do better because they'll have a beautiful, blond girl who can play tennis. :rolleyes:
i said she would be good for fed cup.
fed cup is better with her in it (usa or russia). why does this make you mad?
fed cup would be better if monica seles was in it. why is it okay if i say that?
the us team would do better if they had another top player in the shuffle. why is this hard to understand?

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:29 AM
i said she would be good for fed cup.
fed cup is better with her in it (usa or russia). why does this make you mad?
fed cup would be better if monica seles was in it. why is it okay if i say that?
the us team would do better if they had another top player in the shuffle. why is this hard to understand?
It doesn't make me mad. :confused: If you had said just her name, that would be one thing, but you distinguished her by her looks and race. Why are you backpeddling from your original statement. If you noticed, I'm not the only one who commented about it in this thread.

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:33 AM
It doesn't make me mad. :confused: If you had said just her name, that would be one thing, but you distinguished her by her looks and race. Why are you backpeddling from your original statement. If you noticed, I'm not the only one who commented about it in this thread.
i never identified her by her race :tape: you did, you fool! i see what kinda agenda you're working on now. :rolleyes:

her being an attractive young interesting woman is just a bonus. fed cup suffers because there's hardly ever anyone interesting, and you never seem to know when the top players will be playing.
example: the williams sisters and davenport play fed cup, but they don't come close to playing every tie. adding another top player for the fans would be excellent. it's not just about winning the tie, it's about elevating the sport. if the intrigue surrounding maria can do just that, you get fans in the door for a good sow.

back off, you racist moron!

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:35 AM
i never identified her by her race :tape: you did, you fool! i see what kinda agenda you're working on now. :rolleyes:

her being an attractive young interesting woman is just a bonus. fed cup suffers because there's hardly ever anyone interesting, and you never seem to know when the top players will be playing.
example: the williams sisters and davenport play fed cup, but they don't come close to playing every tie. adding another top player for the fans would be excellent. it's not just about winning the tie, it's about elevating the sport. if the intrigue surrounding maria can do just that, you get fans in the door for a good sow.

back off, you racist moron!
I never said anything about her race. You mentioned that she was blond, you idiot. But, I see that you don't even want to go there, even though you're the one who brought it up. It doesn't work to turn your negative statement on me. :lol:

Julia1968
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:41 AM
Oh, better than two black girls?

Be real Denise. You were the first to bring race into this discussion:

http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=5193362&postcount=103

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:43 AM
I never said anything about her race. You mentioned that she was blond, you idiot. But, I see that you don't even want to go there, even though you're the one who brought it up. It doesn't work to turn your negative statement on me. :lol:
no, you're wrong. i said blonde. there are plenty of blonde sisters out there. it almost in no way implies race. YOU brought race into this, as anyone can see.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:43 AM
Be real Denise. You were the first to bring race into this discussion:

http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=5193362&postcount=103
You must be stupid if you don't think the reference to her being blonde has nothing to do with race. :rolleyes:

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:45 AM
no, you're wrong. i said blonde. there are plenty of blonde sisters out there. it almost in no way implies race. YOU brought race into this, as anyone can see.
I'm sure there are plenty of blonde sisters out there that are white.

As far as black women who are natural blondes, they are few and far in between. :rolleyes:

kabuki
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:45 AM
Oops. There's the R word. Countdown to lockdown. 3, 2, 1...

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:46 AM
You must be stupid if you don't think the reference to her being blonde has nothing to do with race. :rolleyes:
serena is a blonde in your VERY avatar :tape:

:haha:

some people need to cover their tracks.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:47 AM
serena is a blonde in your VERY avatar :tape:

:haha:

some people need to cover their tracks.
You must be color blind. :eek:

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:47 AM
I'm sure there are plenty of blonde sisters out there that are white.

As far as black women who are natural blondes, they are few and far in between. :rolleyes:
:tape:


sidenote: natural blondes in general are few and far between. please keep up.

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:48 AM
You must be color blind. :eek:
excuse me, what color is serena's hair in your avatar?

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:48 AM
:tape:


sidenote: natural blondes in general are few and far between. please keep up.

Ergo, how many blacks do you know that are natural blondes, like your beloved Maria? Try to follow along, it's your issue. :rolleyes:

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:51 AM
Ergo, how many blacks do you know that are natural blondes, like your beloved Maria? Try to follow along, it's your issue. :rolleyes:
it's not about natural.

anna k is not a natural blonde... :rolleyes: you've got some learning to do.

check peoples' roots.

maria may be a natural blonde at 17, but by 25 it may be a whole other story.

to me, there's no race implication by hair color. not when there's dye.

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:51 AM
excuse me, what color is serena's hair in your avatar?
Reddish brown. She was blonde in 2002 though. Keep backpeddling. Maria is a natural blonde and you know it. Tell the truth, would you have referred to Serena in 2002 as a beautiful blonde?

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:52 AM
it's not about natural.

anna k is not a natural blonde... :rolleyes: you've got some learning to do.

check peoples' roots.

maria may be a natural blonde at 17, but by 25 it may be a whole other story.

to me, there's no race implication by hair color. not when there's dye.
But, you'd refer to Anna K as a blonde, but I doubt you'd refer to Serena as a blonde. See the post above. :yawn:

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:55 AM
Reddish brown. She was blonde in 2002 though. Keep backpeddling. Maria is a natural blonde and you know it. Tell the truth, would you have referred to Serena in 2002 as a beautiful blonde?
i wouldn't call serena beautiful. venus, definitely. serena just isn't my taste. i thought her blonde hair looked cool though. :wavey:

Stamp Paid
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:57 AM
i wouldn't call serena beautiful. venus, definitely. serena just isn't my taste. i thought her blonde hair looked cool though. :wavey:

So scratch the beauiful part then, you would refer to Serena as a blonde?:confused:

Denise4925
Apr 2nd, 2005, 04:57 AM
i wouldn't call serena beautiful. venus, definitely. serena just isn't my taste. i thought her blonde hair looked cool though. :wavey:
I can appreciate that, because I would never refer to Maria as beautiful. So, answer this...would you ever refer to Serena as a blonde girl, if she went blonde again? :hehehe: Scratch that, since you think she's blonde now, would you refer to her as a blonde?

Sharapova's_Boy
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:02 AM
Oops. There's the R word. Countdown to lockdown. 3, 2, 1...
:rolls:

faboozadoo15
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:14 AM
So scratch the beauiful part then, you would refer to Serena as a blonde?:confused:
when she has blonde hair...

Stamp Paid
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:21 AM
You've researched me, my love. :inlove:

Julia1968
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:24 AM
You've researched me, my love. :inlove:

I just knew that was you!

We've met several times. But I don't think you remember me :cool:

Stamp Paid
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:26 AM
I just knew that was you!

We've met several times. But I don't think you remember me :cool:

Sweetheart, we must rendezvous! :kiss:

Stamp Paid
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:28 AM
when she has blonde hair...

Oh...:o My apologies, then.

Stamp Paid
Apr 2nd, 2005, 05:32 AM
Julia is replying!! :heartracing: :bounce:

blablabla
Apr 2nd, 2005, 06:02 AM
She's a product of America anyway. She's about as Russian as McDonalds.

Born in Russia to Russian parents, 100% Russian blood.
So what if she trains in the warmer climes of Florida.

Infiniti2001
Apr 2nd, 2005, 06:05 AM
He refused to be drawn on media speculation that the Florida-based Russian might reject the offer and switch her allegiance to the U.S., where she has lived since childhood.


I'm fairly sure a player has to have citizenship in the country in which he/she plays. I mean why would she keep saying that she is representing Russia at tournaments? Unless she is a citizen of the US , she's not eligible to represent the country.This writer needs to check the Fed Cup rules before writing such rubbish in the future .

DiZZiA
Apr 2nd, 2005, 07:40 AM
It's the media tricks!!!

hablo
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:06 AM
I don't think Sharapova will change nationalities!! :lol: :lol:

hablo
Apr 2nd, 2005, 09:15 AM
i think sooner or later Masha is going to make the switch. People aren't buying her Russian shtick, mainly because the Russians who actually live in Russia don't accept her as one of their own. They don't really want her playing on the Russian team. And Masha can solidify her status (which she already more or less has achieved) as the USA's new white tennis darling, if she makes her nationality change official.

:lol: :lol: I don't think that's a good enough reason to switch!!

Maria Croft
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:02 AM
I don't think Sharapova will change nationalities!! :lol: :lol:


Me neither, she loves Russia to much for that

faste5683
Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:20 AM
Linds and Jen could be done any minute. Vee and Ree are not always and forever going to be able and healthy to play every tie.

Maria struggles with the US public stem from-

1. An obnoxious father
2. Her in your face competitiveness
3. Her tendency to keep to herself
4. Her lack of "respect" for the established stars.

Sound like anyone(s) you know? :scratch:

The public will ultimately embrace her. Tomorrow will be interesting to see who is rooted for.

:haha: This is a fantastic post! I've never thought about the similarities
between the sisters and Maria...

:wavey:

igost
Apr 2nd, 2005, 03:49 PM
and the date of the article is April 1

wouldn't pay much attention to it