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cometz9
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:26 AM
K. CLIJSTERS/A. Mauresmo
6‑1, 6‑0
An interview with:

AMELIE MAURESMO

THE MODERATOR: Questions in English for Amelie, please.

Q. What do you think ‑‑ first of all, what happened? Also, what do you think about Kim Clijsters being able to come back this way after so much time off?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Well, what happened is very simple: She played a great game tonight, I think a great match, and making not many errors. I think, you know, I had few occasions in the, let's say, first five games, and then that was it. I think I didn't really have any other occasions later on in that match, even in the second set. I felt like she's hitting the ball better than when she stopped, and harder, hitting harder.

You know, there's nothing much to say about the match. She just played unbelievable tennis. She's in huge confidence. So everything that she goes for is in. You know, I tried to come in sometimes a little bit. She just made unbelievable passing shots.

All the credit to her, you know.

Q. Is it surprising that someone could miss that much time? You said she's hitting harder than when she left, you think.

AMELIE MAURESMO: I think so. Maybe also but she has a lot of confidence, she has nothing to lose, she's been out for one year. And she said it, everything is like a bonus for her, you know? Every match, every time she walks on the court.

And I think she explains it pretty well, and the way she feels. You know, the way she goes for the shots is showing you that, you know, she has huge confidence, you know, especially after last week in Indian Wells.

Q. Did you have a game plan? How did you think you could stop her?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Well, first, I didn't think she was going to play that well. I mean, obviously, she's been playing well since the beginning of the tournament. But, you know, I thought I have ‑‑ my slice backhand could really hurt her, which it almost didn't. When the ball was pretty low, she was just still hitting it pretty hard.

No, I think in all the areas of the game, she was just better than me today. That's it.

Q. So you see great chances for her also to win the tournament, right?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Well, you know, she has one more match to go. I think I don't know. I mean, Maria has been playing well as well throughout this tournament. So, you know, it's going to be interesting match.

Q. What is your next schedule from here? Where do you go?

AMELIE MAURESMO: I'm gonna go back to Europe and then get ready for the clay.

Q. You coming to Berlin, do you know?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Yep (smiling).

Q. Rome?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Yes.

Q. Paris?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Maybe, maybe (smiling).

Q. With Kim coming back, her play like this, with the Russians so well, do you ever remember a time when the tour was as competitive at the top?

AMELIE MAURESMO: Not since I'm on this tour. I think it's been the toughest draw, you know, like in the Top 10 player, everybody is playing some great tennis I think.

Since I'm playing, I don't think I've ever seen this kind of field.

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LesViolettes
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:32 AM
No, I think in all the areas of the game, she was just better than me today. That's it. Ugh. Why does she have to be so damn nice?

TF Chipmunk
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:36 AM
Ugh. Why does she have to be so damn nice?


Because it's what it looked like today, and she's being a good sport... :rolleyes:

hablo
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:44 AM
Ugh. Why does she have to be so damn nice?

that's Momo for you!!! I'm too disappointed to applaud her fair appraisal of Kim's performance!!! :fiery:

PatM04
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:48 AM
VERY gracious interview. She didn't even elude to the fact that it was her bad play that led to the loss. She gave Kim ALL of the credit. So often we see players give their opponents credit but then throw in a comment like "I could've taken my chances here" or "I didn't play the way I wanted to". While comments like that may be true, it is still important to give credit where credit is due. Obviously that is what Amelie has done and that is why she is so well liked on the tour. Congrats to her for being such a good sport and good luck in Europe Momo:)

@m@nd@
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:49 AM
All the credit to her, you know.

she is so nice :D

nysaga
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:51 AM
if it were the Williams.....the responses would be :

1. I'm tired..i had a day off after playing 2 sets with my little sis and i'm still tired..
2. i made too many errors
3. she won because of my mistakes..

lol

TF Chipmunk
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:52 AM
if it were the Williams.....the responses would be :

1. I'm tired..i had a day off after playing 2 sets with my little sis and i'm still tired..
2. i made too many errors
3. she won because of my mistakes..

lol


Or...
4. it was very windy out there today
5. i commited suicide on the court out there today

:angel: But yeah, she's a great sport.

G1Player2
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:55 AM
if it were the Williams.....the responses would be :

1. I'm tired..i had a day off after playing 2 sets with my little sis and i'm still tired..
2. i made too many errors
3. she won because of my mistakes..

lol

This thread had nothing to do with either Williams

nysaga
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:14 AM
This thread had nothing to do with either Williams

true...but this is something the Sisters could aspire to become in interviews. People with class and humility.

ceiling_fan
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:14 AM
better luck next time amelie!

Dan23
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:25 AM
Nice interview....no dodging the fact Kim outplayed her today :)

Experimentee
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:01 AM
So she admits that when Kim plays well there is nothing she can do to prevent a 6-1 6-0 loss. Great.

fifiricci
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:50 AM
Amelie is a very classy and honest person. I also think she's a Kim fan :lol:

CooCooCachoo
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:54 AM
Nice interview, you know?

:tape: :)

syd
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:58 AM
she' honest, very fair play amelie!!!

~ The Leopard ~
Apr 1st, 2005, 07:25 AM
The only thing good about all this is that Amelie gave such a gracious interview. She gave all the credit to Kim.

~ The Leopard ~
Apr 1st, 2005, 07:26 AM
I sometimes think that Amelie would be better off if she wasn't quite such a nice person. Still, this is why we love her.

Hagar
Apr 1st, 2005, 07:27 AM
VERY gracious interview. She didn't even elude to the fact that it was her bad play that led to the loss. She gave Kim ALL of the credit. So often we see players give their opponents credit but then throw in a comment like "I could've taken my chances here" or "I didn't play the way I wanted to". While comments like that may be true, it is still important to give credit where credit is due. Obviously that is what Amelie has done and that is why she is so well liked on the tour. Congrats to her for being such a good sport and good luck in Europe Momo:)

Very gracious of Momo, fully acknowledging Kim's superiority in this match. I think Momo is an intelligent woman. If she would come up with shallow excuses, she would know it and feel embarrassed. So she just gives credit where credit is due.
But I do hope she's also grinding her teeth and determined to try to give Kim a harder run for her money next time they play.
They had some tough three setters in the past: US Open, Rome 2003, YEC 2003 (not the final). Great matches. I prefer such a tough 3-setter any time to a 6-1, 6-0 trashing.

Greenout
Apr 1st, 2005, 07:32 AM
She's soooo nice, and Amelie is the only one to admit that yes
it was the thickest Tier 1 in along time. I think no one wanted to admit
it; but they were all under alot of pressure to live up to their
seedings.

tennnisfannn
Apr 1st, 2005, 07:45 AM
if it were the Williams.....the responses would be :

1. I'm tired..i had a day off after playing 2 sets with my little sis and i'm still tired..
2. i made too many errors
3. she won because of my mistakes..

lol
now, if amleie had lost to a williams she wouldn't be as gracious either. Rememebr at the AO, she was asked a aimilar question about serena, she said serena didn't haver to do anything, said she didn't even care how serena went on to do in the tourny either.
Serena was very gracious in her loss to venus. So here is the deal, amelie reserves the right to be gracious to whomsoever she pleases, the williams reserve the right to be gracious to whomever they choose!

G1Player2
Apr 1st, 2005, 07:57 AM
now, if amleie had lost to a williams she wouldn't be as gracious either. Rememebr at the AO, she was asked a aimilar question about serena, she said serena didn't haver to do anything, said she didn't even care how serena went on to do in the tourny either.
Serena was very gracious in her loss to venus. So here is the deal, amelie reserves the right to be gracious to whomsoever she pleases, the williams reserve the right to be gracious to whomever they choose!

Exactly...Amelie said that all Serena had to do was "show up" to beat her in the Austrailian Open loss...

squash
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:54 AM
Poor Mauresmo, What's wrong with this girl?

Obviously Mauresmo has no confidence in herself!

matthias
Apr 1st, 2005, 08:57 AM
Q. With Kim coming back, her play like this, with the Russians so well, do you ever remember a time when the tour was as competitive at the top?

great question after a 1:6 0:6
and last weeks double-bagle from davenport over sharapova

ans
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:07 AM
Amélie:)

I don't believe in those "if a player would be less nice and more bitchy, never giving credit etc..., she would be a better player" theories. :rolleyes:

WorldWar24
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:48 AM
Great interview Amelie

Jenny.C.Fan
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:50 AM
Nice interview, good luck in europe ame.

rada
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:53 AM
i love the lesbo she will win the french i feelk it

Alan
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:59 AM
Ugh. Why does she have to be so damn nice?

Yeah that's it she's so nice!
:p

1jackson2001
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:01 AM
great to see her being so nice :) This makes me a fan of hers...almost :devil:

Mariangelina
Apr 1st, 2005, 10:37 AM
Kudos to Amélie for being so gracious and, well, nice- when I lose, I'm not afraid to tell people my opponent did a really good job. (Losing and then going on about how bad your conqueror is only makes you look worse than they are. :tape: ) However, I would make sure everyone knew that I sucked and am usually much better. It takes a lot of grace- and maybe a little denial- to give your opponent the credit, not your own bad play.

But I wish she had more killer insitinct, especially after matches like these. I think she's in a bit of a slump right now- except for Antwerp, pretty much every other tournament in 2005 ended a little disappointingly. Kudos to Kim for doing a fantastic job, and Amélie, believe it or not, you're a fantastic player who can beat just about anyone when you're good. So get your ass on the practice courts and make sure this doesn't happen again.

suzie
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:01 AM
So here is the deal, amelie reserves the right to be gracious to whomsoever she pleases, the williams reserve the right to be gracious to whomever they choose!
And that would be basically each other, right? :rolleyes:
Amélie was nice here with Kim because that's the way she is, as a person and as a professional player. You can be Amélie's fan or not but there's something everybody should give her: she's one of the nicest players on tour.

suzie
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:06 AM
So she admits that when Kim plays well there is nothing she can do to prevent a 6-1 6-0 loss. Great.
I recommend watching YEC 2003 round robin's match between the two. :)

Sonja
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:20 AM
It doesn't matter what she says, someone will find fault with it :rolleyes:

This thread is about Amélie's interview after playing the match with Kim, so I'll ignore all the other garbage.

I'm pleased to see she was a good sport and gave credit where credit was due. Kim was clearly the better player. Like others said I hope this is the kick in the ass that will make her work harder. But in the meantime, I'm proud to be a fan of someone who gives her opponent credit when credit is due.

Congratulations Kim, what a comeback!

Amélie we'll see you on the practice courts. ;)

Tennisaddict
Apr 1st, 2005, 11:45 AM
And that would be basically each other, right? :rolleyes:
Amélie was nice here with Kim because that's the way she is, as a person and as a professional player. You can be Amélie's fan or not but there's something everybody should give her: she's one of the nicest players on tour.

She's nice when she wants to. In this interview she's nice because she has no problem with Kim. When she gets defeated by either one of the WS you won't hear nothing nice from her just excuses. So I don't think anybody who's objective about this matter can say she's one of the nicest players on tour.

That honour belongs to Kim btw :devil:. Again, Amelie is only nice when she wants to.

smarties
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:37 PM
Momo is such a sweetheat :hearts: ; verry classy lady.

oddkayla
Apr 4th, 2005, 09:20 AM
great question after a 1:6 0:6
and last weeks double-bagle from davenport over sharapova

And therein lies the problem. If she does not think there is anything that she could have done, at least to make the score more respectable, then she is in trouble. It is why she has never won a slam.

If she totally believes that there was nothing that came out of her racquet that could have hurt Kim, she will retire a nice girl without a slam.

tigercub
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:45 AM
Kudos to Amélie for being so gracious and, well, nice- when I lose, I'm not afraid to tell people my opponent did a really good job. (Losing and then going on about how bad your conqueror is only makes you look worse than they are. :tape: ) However, I would make sure everyone knew that I sucked and am usually much better. It takes a lot of grace- and maybe a little denial- to give your opponent the credit, not your own bad play.

But I wish she had more killer insitinct, especially after matches like these. I think she's in a bit of a slump right now- except for Antwerp, pretty much every other tournament in 2005 ended a little disappointingly. Kudos to Kim for doing a fantastic job, and Amélie, believe it or not, you're a fantastic player who can beat just about anyone when you're good. So get your ass on the practice courts and make sure this doesn't happen again.

I totally agree with you. Except; olives do not suck--I love them--you are crazy regarding olives.

Rub
Apr 5th, 2005, 09:47 AM
Amelie is a very classy and honest person. I also think she's a Kim fan


i think she's a Kim fan too... yeah... i do.. :lol:

spindoctor
Apr 5th, 2005, 10:10 AM
Again, Amelie is only nice when she wants to.

She is nice more often than she'd like to be not only when she wants to. :p

suzie
Apr 5th, 2005, 10:29 AM
She's nice when she wants to. In this interview she's nice because she has no problem with Kim. When she gets defeated by either one of the WS you won't hear nothing nice from her just excuses. So I don't think anybody who's objective about this matter can say she's one of the nicest players on tour.
Yeah, sure... :rolleyes: For me she's the nicest.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Yeah, sure... :rolleyes: For me she's the nicest.

Well good for you :yeah:. But that doesn't mean she is the nicest :p.

griffin
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:12 PM
"I know you are but what am I?"

:rolleyes:

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:25 PM
She is nice more often than she'd like to be not only when she wants to. :p

If that is the case, why is she so often disrespectful of Serena in her post match interviews?
Seems to me that she doesn't like to be nice and isn't, and only is nice when she wants to :cool:.

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:27 PM
If that is the case, why is she so often disrespectful of Serena in her post match interviews?
Seems to me that she doesn't like to be nice and isn't, and only is nice when she wants to :cool:.

Can you specify so often ?

Szymanowski
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:31 PM
I've never followed Mauresmo. She sounds like a really nice person.

She conducted herself in a similarly courteous way to how Maria does in post match interviews.

griffin
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Well, a couple of times when she's lost to Serena and played like shit, she's said as much - which come to think of it is very similar to how Serena talks about many of her losses, so I guess by Tennisaddict's standards Serena's not a nice person either.

Of course, she (Amelie) has also talked about Serena playing amazing tennis in the process of beating her - again, much like some of Serena's inteviews, you find comments of both kinds - so I guess it's all a matter of what people choose to focus on. You can focus on the less warn-fuzzy things players say, especially after tough losses, or you can respect the fact that they're human and aren't working from an approved script.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:59 PM
Can you specify ?

Yep, I can, after their quarterfinal in OZ 2005 she said that all Serena had to do was keep the ball in play and that Serena didn't show her nothing out on the court.

After their Wimbledon semi-final 2004 she refused to give Serena credit for her comeback in the match and blamed it on her back, which is partly true, but also had to do with Serena's never say die attitude, Serena fought like she was about to die.

When Venus came back at OZ 2004 under a special ranking she complained about it. Davenport received a special ranking also when she came back from injury but Mauresmo didn't say anything then.

This is a quote Mauresmo made about the Wimbledon 2003 final, "It's obvious that these two 'talented' players, who happen to be sisters, planned Serena's win at this year's Wimbledon". "There is no way that any player under Venus' strain and pain would go out and play, and to save Venus reputation, she faked her own injury in order to satisfy her father's goals of keeping Serena at the top".

I know that Mauresmo can be very nice, but she hasn't always been nice when she could or should. I'm not saying she should be nice all the time that's her decision to make, but I'm disagreeing with the perception a lot of people in this thread have, that she is the nicest. I still stand by my claim that's she's nice when she wants to.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:10 PM
Well, a couple of times when she's lost to Serena and played like shit, she's said as much - which come to think of it is very similar to how Serena talks about many of her losses, so I guess by Tennisaddict's standards Serena's not a nice person either.

Of course, she (Amelie) has also talked about Serena playing amazing tennis in the process of beating her - again, much like some of Serena's inteviews, you find comments of both kinds - so I guess it's all a matter of what people choose to focus on. You can focus on the less warn-fuzzy things players say, especially after tough losses, or you can respect the fact that they're human and aren't working from an approved script.

Obviously you didn't get my point. I never said that Serena is a nice person, but people in this thread said that Mauresmo is one of the nicest players when talking about her opponents. I responded to those comments as you can read in my previous posts, that that isn't always the case and that she has made snide remarks concerning the WS. But she doesn't talk like that when it comes to Kim, Justine, Lindsay or any other player. I know she has said good things about the WS but also unnecessary things, I just wanted to point that out.

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Yep, I can, after their quarterfinal in OZ 2005 she said that all Serena had to do was keep the ball in play and that Serena didn't show her nothing out on the court.

After their Wimbledon semi-final 2004 she refused to give Serena credit for her comeback in the match and blamed it on her back, which is partly true, but also had to do with Serena's never say die attitude, Serena fought like she was about to die.

When Venus came back at OZ 2004 under a special ranking she complained about it. Davenport received a special ranking also when she came back from injury but Mauresmo didn't say anything then.

This is a quote Mauresmo made about the Wimbledon 2003 final, "It's obvious that these two 'talented' players, who happen to be sisters, planned Serena's win at this year's Wimbledon". "There is no way that any player under Venus' strain and pain would go out and play, and to save Venus reputation, she faked her own injury in order to satisfy her father's goals of keeping Serena at the top".

I know that Mauresmo can be very nice, but she hasn't always been nice when she could or should. I'm not saying she should be nice all the time that's her decision to make, but I'm disagreeing with the perception a lot of people in this thread have, that she is the nicest. I still stand by my claim that's she's nice when she wants to.

OK she's not a fan of Williamses, fair enough. But I'd still agree with Spinnie, she is nice a lot more often than she would have to be. Williamses very seldom give credit to their opponents when they lose even when the credit is due.

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:14 PM
Obviously you didn't get my point. I never said that Serena is a nice person, but people in this thread said that Mauresmo is one of the nicest players when talking about her opponents. I responded to those comments as you can read in my previous posts, that that isn't always the case and that she has made snide remarks concerning the WS. But she doesn't talk like that when it comes to Kim, Justine, Lindsay or any other player. I know she has said good things about the WS but also unnecessary things, I just wanted to point that out.

She is one of the nicest players. If someone would have said she is "the nicest" then you would have had a valid point.

griffin
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Obviously you didn't get my point. I never said that Serena is a nice person, but people in this thread said that Mauresmo is one of the nicest players when talking about her opponents. I responded to those comments as you can read in my previous posts, that that isn't always the case and that she has made snide remarks concerning the WS. But she doesn't talk like that when it comes to Kim, Justine, Lindsay or any other player. I know she has said good things about the WS but also unnecessary things, I just wanted to point that out.

And I'm simply trying to point out that she, like everyone else on the tour (and most of us here ;) ) is human. Smart people sometimes say dumb things, "nice" people sometimes say not-so-nice things. You can either look for and focus on the negative (or the postive for that matter), or you can look at the bigger picture of their interviews as a whole, their interactions with fans, etc. I'll happily admit I'm as biased as anyone else here, but if you're willing to do that I'd put her up against pretty much anybody on tour.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:28 PM
OK she's not a fan of Williamses, fair enough.

I'm glad we agree on that part ;).

But I'd still agree with Spinnie, she is nice a lot more often than she would have to be.

She can be to nice at times, I hope she can change that because I think that's in her way to become a real killer on the court.

Williamses very seldom give credit to their opponents when they lose even when the credit is due.

They give credit to their opponents a lot of times just not in the way a lot of people want them to. Venus complimented Mauresmo after the Antwerp final by saying that Mauresmo deserved to win the title. I can understand though that a lot of people find their comments arrogant. But all champions have an air of confidence about them which they display trough verbal and nonverbal communication. It's that firm believe in themselves that they're the best, that has gotten them to the nr 1 position and all those slam titles.

MinnyGophers
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:00 PM
If that is the case, why is she so often disrespectful of Serena in her post match interviews?
Seems to me that she doesn't like to be nice and isn't, and only is nice when she wants to :cool:.

oh please it's not like Serena is crediting Momo after every tough three setters they have. so why should Amelie do it for her? There is nice, and then there is just human.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:20 PM
She is one of the nicest players. If someone would have said she is "the nicest" then you would have had a valid point.

Clearly you have not read my posts in this thread or you would not have made this comment. I responded to Suzie who did say that Mauresmo is the nicest player in her opinion. I disagreed and that was that. Look I understand you guys don't like to hear negative things about your fave and I'm not trying to diss Mauresmo or anything but I do have a right to express my opinion and I will whether you guys like it or not.

Furthermore I wasn't talking to you in that post you quoted but to griffin.
I do have a valid point and I suggest you check your facts because you are not helping yourself this way :tape:.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:29 PM
And I'm simply trying to point out that she, like everyone else on the tour (and most of us here ;) ) is human. Smart people sometimes say dumb things, "nice" people sometimes say not-so-nice things. You can either look for and focus on the negative (or the postive for that matter), or you can look at the bigger picture of their interviews as a whole, their interactions with fans, etc. I'll happily admit I'm as biased as anyone else here, but if you're willing to do that I'd put her up against pretty much anybody on tour.

I agree, this post makes a lot of sense. Of course she's human and makes mistakes don't we all? My disagreement was with the people who didn't find fault with her behaviour in specific situations. On the overall scale she strikes me as a very nice person but the nicest IMO is Clijsters :p.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:39 PM
oh please it's not like Serena is crediting Momo after every tough three setters they have. so why should Amelie do it for her? There is nice, and then there is just human.

Hellooooooooooooooooooo it's about Mauresmo being the nicest, Serena has nothing to do with this topic in that regard :rolleyes:.

If you want to discuss Serena and her being nice or not, then by all means start a new thread about it if not stay with the topic or is it that difficult?

And saying that Amelie doesn't have to credit Serena because Serena doesn't
credit her is childish. What does that say about Mauresmo? I think she is bigger then that. You also acknowledged my claim that Mauresmo is nice when she wants to by saying that.

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Clearly you have not read my posts in this thread or you would not have made this comment. I responded to Suzie who did say that Mauresmo is the nicest player in her opinion. I disagreed and that was that. Look I understand you guys don't like to hear negative things about your fave and I'm not trying to diss Mauresmo or anything but I do have a right to express my opinion and I will whether you guys like it or not.

Furthermore I wasn't talking to you in that post you quoted but to griffin.
I do have a valid point and I suggest you check your facts because you are not helping yourself this way :tape:.

http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=5188212&postcount=32
read the last sentence of her post ;)

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:51 PM
Hellooooooooooooooooooo it's about Mauresmo being the nicest,



It has been about Mauresmo being one of the nicest players not the nicest.
Personally I don't think she is the nicest person on tour, but she is one of the nicest.

hotandspicey
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:51 PM
And that would be basically each other, right? :rolleyes:
Amélie was nice here with Kim because that's the way she is, as a person and as a professional player. You can be Amélie's fan or not but there's something everybody should give her: she's one of the nicest players on tour.How would you know??? Are you on the tour????:rolleyes:

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:56 PM
How would you know??? Are you on the tour????:rolleyes:

Maybe Suzie isn't but I am and I can confirm Amé is one of the nicest players both towards 99% of players and 99,9% of wtatour people.

MinnyGophers
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Hellooooooooooooooooooo it's about Mauresmo being the nicest, Serena has nothing to do with this topic in that regard :rolleyes:.

If you want to discuss Serena and her being nice or not, then by all means start a new thread about it if not stay with the topic or is it that difficult?

And saying that Amelie doesn't have to credit Serena because Serena doesn't
credit her is childish. What does that say about Mauresmo? I think she is bigger then that. You also acknowledged my claim that Mauresmo is nice when she wants to by saying that.


what? you're the one who brought up Serena in the first place saying that Amelie didn't give her credit then and then. :rolleyes:
i'm not talking about Serena here, I am just justifying my opinion on why Amelie had the right not to give her credit either. And it's not like Amelie was thinking during that interview "Ah! Ah! Serena didn't give me credit all those times, so i won't either!" :rolleyes: those two had tough matches all year long and it had always beeen like that.
And i never said that Amelie is THE nicest on tour, don't put words in my mouth, although I believe she is one of the nicest and classiest.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Yeah, sure... :rolleyes: For me she's the nicest.

To Stenen: I responded to this post disagreeing she is the nicest.

Before that I responded to the same poster and expressed my opinion about her being one of the nicest players. I said that she's nice when she wants to.

It seems you read what you want to read and ignore the rest. Don't try to mix things up to make your arguments look valid because they aren't.
Nice try though :p.

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:05 PM
To Stenen: I responded to this post disagreeing she is the nicest.

Before that I responded to the same poster and expressed my opinion about her being one of the nicest players. I said that she's nice when she wants to.

It seems you read what you want to read and ignore the rest. Don't try to mix things up to make your arguments look valid because they aren't.
Nice try though :p.

I did read all of her and your posts before I responded. I don't try to mix things. She first pointed out Mauresmo being one of the nicest and then later added her personal opinion which was for her Mauresmo is the nicest however her first initial post about this was how people generally view Mauresmo, as one of the nicest players.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:12 PM
what? you're the one who brought up Serena in the first place saying that Amelie didn't give her credit then and then. :rolleyes:
i'm not talking about Serena here, I am just justifying my opinion on why Amelie had the right not to give her credit either. And it's not like Amelie was thinking during that interview "Ah! Ah! Serena didn't give me credit all those times, so i won't either!" :rolleyes: those two had tough matches all year long and it had always beeen like that.
And i never said that Amelie is THE nicest on tour, don't put words in my mouth, although I believe she is one of the nicest and classiest.

Well, you can justify your opinion all you want but you can't just pick one of my posts to do so because you're taking it out of context that way.
Yes, I brought up Serena, and Venus for that matter, because I wanted to motivate my comment that Mauresmo is nice when she wants to. I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth. I expect you to do fine by yourself.
When did I say that you said that Mauresmo is the nicest :rolleyes:.
You didn't hear it from me. My discussion was with Suzie and you and some other posters felt the need to contribute to that discussion.
That's fine this is a messageboard afterall but try to stay with the topic maybe then we can get somewhere ;).

JPrince
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:18 PM
Umm...how do you rate who is "the nicest" anyway? Is there some kind of nice meter that the players are rated on? Judging the niceness of a player is strictly a subjective matter of opinion. I don't think anyone who loses a match is going to be thrilled with having to face the media for post match interviews, so I don't think it's fair to judge how nice anyone is based on that alone. Mauresmo does conduct herself professionally in interviews, and is a very nice person. I say this from meeting her in person, but I've also met alot of other very nice players as well, so it's all up to how you feel. :)

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:19 PM
I did read all of her and your posts before I responded. I don't try to mix things. She first pointed out Mauresmo being one of the nicest and then later added her personal opinion which was for her Mauresmo is the nicest however her first initial post about this was how people generally view Mauresmo, as one of the nicest players.

:bigclap: Now was that so hard? My posts were answering conform her general and personal comments.
You did try to mix things up but it doesn't matter anymore since you seem to get my drift now ;).

Denise4925
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:22 PM
what? you're the one who brought up Serena in the first place saying that Amelie didn't give her credit then and then. :rolleyes:
i'm not talking about Serena here, I am just justifying my opinion on why Amelie had the right not to give her credit either. And it's not like Amelie was thinking during that interview "Ah! Ah! Serena didn't give me credit all those times, so i won't either!" :rolleyes: those two had tough matches all year long and it had always beeen like that.
And i never said that Amelie is THE nicest on tour, don't put words in my mouth, although I believe she is one of the nicest and classiest.

No she wasn't. See below. This is a classic example of people seeing what they want to see and ignoring the rest. :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by nysaga
if it were the Williams.....the responses would be :

1. I'm tired..i had a day off after playing 2 sets with my little sis and i'm still tired..
2. i made too many errors
3. she won because of my mistakes..

lol
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Originally Posted by tennis_freak67


Or...
4. it was very windy out there today
5. i commited suicide on the court out there today

But yeah, she's a great sport.

stenen
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:34 PM
:bigclap: Now was that so hard? My posts were answering conform her general and personal comments.
You did try to mix things up but it doesn't matter anymore since you seem to get my drift now ;).

It was partly this comment of yours that made me respond in the first place: So I don't think anybody who's objective about this matter can say she's one of the nicest players on tour.

Since I spend a lot of time working on wtatour I talk to many players on regular basis, see, hear and feel things (vibes). This background gives me more than enough objectivity to say that Mauresmo is viewed as one of the nicest players on tour by players, wtatour officials and tournament organisers but also by many people who have met her at tournaments even those who are not her supporters.
But hey if you feel she's not nice or is only nice when she wants to be, fine.

suzie
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Guys, I promise not to post anymore about being nice in the tour! PEACE :worship:

I'm glad Stenen got the right sense of my words, she explained my feelings in a perfect way. Thanks ;)

MinnyGophers
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:07 PM
No she wasn't. See below. This is a classic example of people seeing what they want to see and ignoring the rest. :rolleyes:

i'm talking about bringing up Serena's comments to Mauresmo after their matches not how the WS "act" in general in this poster's opinion

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:12 PM
It was partly this comment of yours that made me respond in the first place:

Since I spend a lot of time working on wtatour I talk to many players on regular basis, see, hear and feel things (vibes). This background gives me more than enough objectivity to say that Mauresmo is viewed as one of the nicest players on tour by players, wtatour officials and tournament organisers but also by many people who have met her at tournaments even those who are not her supporters.
But hey if you feel she's not nice or is only nice when she wants to be, fine.

Thanks for respecting my opinion as I respect yours :yeah:.
I don't have anything against Mauresmo btw.
Your claim on objectivity is fair enough since you work in the wta environment.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:17 PM
i'm talking about bringing up Serena's comments to Mauresmo after their matches not how the WS "act" in general in this poster's opinion

Read post 65. I'm not going to throw a comment about Mauresmo, or anybody for that matter, without a motivation unlike some people :rolleyes:.
You are also wrong about me bringing up Serena's comments to Mauresmo, I commented on Mauresmo's comments on the WS.

Denise4925
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:18 PM
i'm talking about bringing up Serena's comments to Mauresmo after their matches not how the WS "act" in general in this poster's opinion
Okay, but it all stemmed from the comment by the trolls of the WS and this comment by Tennisfannn. It's not like Tennisaddict brought up Serena's comments out of the clear blue sky.

Originally posted by Tennisfannn

now, if amleie had lost to a williams she wouldn't be as gracious either. Rememebr at the AO, she was asked a aimilar question about serena, she said serena didn't haver to do anything, said she didn't even care how serena went on to do in the tourny either.
Serena was very gracious in her loss to venus. So here is the deal, amelie reserves the right to be gracious to whomsoever she pleases, the williams reserve the right to be gracious to whomever they choose!

MinnyGophers
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Read post 65. I'm not going to throw a comment about Mauresmo, or anybody for that matter, without a motivation unlike some people :rolleyes:.
You are also wrong about me bringing up Serena's comments to Mauresmo, I commented on Mauresmo's comments on the WS.

i have no idea what you talking about. I just replied to your posts concerning Mauresmo not being nice with the WS, i don't care about the rest.

Okay sorry, got that mixed up, but does it really matter?

just let it go, i've learned not to get into arguments for silly things such as this.

MinnyGophers
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:25 PM
Okay, but it all stemmed from the comment by the trolls of the WS and this comment by Tennisfannn. It's not like Tennisaddict brought up Serena's comments out of the clear blue sky.

yes i know, the moment i saw the post out of nowhere about how the WS are not "classy" i knew it was going to escalate.

Denise4925
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:31 PM
yes i know, the moment i saw the post out of nowhere about how the WS are not "classy" i knew it was going to escalate.
Yeah me too. But, those comments were made by trolls so I let it go. Then one thing led to another. I don't know why it has to be this big competition of who's the most gracious or nice or the most this or that. Most of the complaints about the sisters can be applied to every one of the players on tour at one time or another. It's okay to start a thread to discuss the comments from a player and the type of match they played, but to start to brag about how gracious she is and compare her to (as usual) the Williams' is stupid, especially when we've all seen her less than gracious, less than nice and less than diplomatic at one time or another. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I just want the players to all be healthy and play good matches that we can talk about and dissect, instead of their personalities and other things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of tennis.

Tennisaddict
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:32 PM
i have no idea what you talking about. I just replied to your posts concerning Mauresmo not being nice with the WS, i don't care about the rest.

Okay sorry, got that mixed up, but does it really matter?

just let it go, i've learned not to get into arguments for silly things such as this.

Yes it matters that you got things mixed up because I got the wrong impression. There's nothing to let go of because I'm not holding on to anything. If you feel that this is silly why respond in the first place :rolleyes:.

TF Chipmunk
Apr 6th, 2005, 04:14 AM
I hate it when my words get taken out of context or aren't understood correctly :rolleyes:, 'nuff said...