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slydevil6142
Mar 31st, 2005, 07:38 PM
Yes Venus lost but I loved the hunger I saw in the match. She never gave up once however she was playing an oppenent today who just didnt miss while she had a few momentary lapses of concentration. The fact that they both had such a high amount of winners with little errors shows the quality of the match. Some fans will never be satisifed with Venus however I see the imporvements in her ame and I know if she continues on this path it will only lead to good things for her. ps Serena would have been worked by Maria they way she was playing today.

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 31st, 2005, 07:41 PM
i agree!

!<blocparty>!
Mar 31st, 2005, 07:43 PM
I have actually become a fan of Venus since antwerp. I really wanted her to win that second today and play well in the third. I just hope she can improve her forehand for wimbledon. The serve seems to be back, almost. Volleys and backhand :yeah:

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2005, 07:46 PM
Like I said in another post. The serve seems to be back, now she just needs to put more work into the FH. I wonder if she has considered tweaking the grip ever so slightly...she seems to have lots of trouble with real high balls and the very lows ball.

If she keeps serving the way she did in the last two matches...good things are bound to happen.

Paneru
Mar 31st, 2005, 07:46 PM
I totally agree!

Venus may have lost but she played some of
the best tennis I've seen in years!

I love where she is headed.
Still has to work on the fh which did
cost her in this match, but the fire and
intensity where there, she served well
and I see her only getting better.

Venus had 11 more winners in this
match. Just lost it on some crucial
points but she'll work on it!


Luv' ya Venus!

virtue05
Mar 31st, 2005, 07:46 PM
I agree I think her only achillies hill right now is that forhand, it is not consistent enough. If she fixes that she will be okay; give Venus a couple more tournaments and she will be back. They should still be playing but Venus let some valuable chances slip by in that set, either way, I am very proud of her.

Kabezya
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:14 PM
I am extremely proud of Venus. I was over the loss a second after it happened. Venus is and has become this type of player that I mainly only see positives with. There is something about her that is special, grounding, and always has me rooting for her no matter what. She lost today, but I was so proud of her performance, and I have been proud of her streak all through Miami. She's just great.

Tennisaddict
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:17 PM
I agree too, and don't understand why other posters are so upset about this loss.
Of course I wanted Venus to win, but I'm not dissappointed she lost. She played a good match but failed to convert on some opportunities she had and also in the breakpoints she had in the last game, like her return of serve should have been way better. She had 24 UE against Sharpie's 12.
So it's no surprise that Sharpie won. I must say though that Sharpie was on fire today.

I'm so happy that Venus's serve is working again it was really good today, she showed that she can contend for the big titles again. Now all she needs to do is play better in the big points and then it will all come together.This was overall a close match altough the scoreline doesn't suggest it.

And to all the people who are giving up on Venus again you are all just talking :bs: :fiery:.
She is on her way back and it won't be long until she will be in the winners circle again, where she belongs:yeah:.

Thanks for a great tournament Venus, and best of luck in Amelia Island :kiss:.

Kabezya
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:21 PM
I agree too, and don't understand why other posters are so upset about this loss.

The only thing I can come up with is the name of the opponent, but regardless of who it could of been, her actual performance is what I feel is being lost and that is a shame.

Thanks for a great tournament Venus, and best of luck in Amelia Island :kiss:.

Yes!

tennisIlove09
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:37 PM
Ive always been proud of her...but this week I'm even more of a fan :D

LindsayRocks89
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:42 PM
I am very proud of Venus also. Like you all said, Her serve is coming back, the 2nd serve looking better also. backhand and volleys are looking great as usual. I'm sure she's working on the forehand and its just going to take some time, but i think it has improved since last year.

I was a little upset just because i know Venus can beat Maria, and i'm tired of all these people criticizing Venus and saying she's over.

Venus, hoping you win Amelia Island.

Deira
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:51 PM
Now this is a thread I can totally relate to (at least at this point). Way to go Vee you looked Maaaaaaaarvelous girlie. Won't be long now
:hearts::hearts::hearts::bounce::bounce::bounce::h earts::hearts::hearts:

Tennisaddict
Mar 31st, 2005, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE=Machu Picchu]The only thing I can come up with is the name of the opponent, but regardless of who it could of been, her actual performance is what I feel is being lost and that is a shame.



I understand but it's not like Venus is completely back to her full potential.
Her win over Serena is an important step towards it. But there are other things that still have to come together especially her converting on the big points, that's crucial when you play the top players.

One thing is for sure she is definitely not over. She has her own way of coming back and she is going in the right direction. She just has to stay healthy and keep improving and she''ll have a great 2005.

Kabezya
Mar 31st, 2005, 09:06 PM
One thing is for sure she is definitely not over. She has her own way of coming back and she is going in the right direction. She just has to stay healthy and keep improving and she''ll have a great 2005.

So true, she's not there yet, but she's on her way. That thought in itself coupled with the reality of the match is very exciting. Rock on Venus :bounce:

GogoGirl
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:15 PM
Hey All,

Venus took the loss personally - and was feeling a lot more frustrated by it than any of us were - when she spoke in that interview. I think she did the interview well under the circumstances. The loss affected her - but she has always been able to move on past it. All players can admit they didn’t play the big points well - and especially upon making errors. Duh! Venus made too many - and Maria didn’t.

Venus has no reason to hang her head. May haps she was a little off because she didn’t get the 24 hours rest. She had played the nite before and Maria had played the day before. I don’t see why they didn’t make this one the nite match - although that doesn‘t mean the results would have been different.

Anyway - Maria was on her game and should be congratulated for playing such a clean and concentrated match. She deserved the win - because she won. Venus deserved the loss - because she lost. It really is that simple.

I still find myself extremely pleased w/Venus’s showing. Right back where she started from. Venus had a time beating Martina and Lindsay for awhile - but finally did. They were the epitome at that time - as it pertained to which players she needed to beat that were in her way. She must be thrilled at the challenge Maria presents. I still say that everyone needs (a) challenge(s) to keep them interested in life. After all - Venus won four majors w/i two years, and she lost six finals of majors for the next year and a half after that. That means that for three years - she came to play - dominate and rule.

If she wants it like that again - she can achieve it - she just has to get to where she was when she played well enough to start beating the players that had had her number. Maria presents such a challenge. Good on Venus for meeting her at this point in her career/game - face to face. That’s a challenge. Venus is rich - and could have been retired. In order for her to really try to get back to the top - she needs a challenge - and I would assume all players do.

There are others in the league that can trouble Venus - but Maria is now the test - IMO.

I waited almost three years from 1997 until 2000 before Venus began to turn the tables on her fiercest opponents - and began to play as her talent dictated. I can wait again.

“CONGRATS TO KIM AND MARIA” “COME ON KIM - SHOW US WHAT YOU’RE MADE OF - AND LLYETON”


"COME ON VENUS - SLIDE INTO THE CLAY SEASON W/YOUR STRENGTHS" "YOU CAN DO IT LIKE YOU HAD IT GOING ON LAST YEAR"

VRee_Willario
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:25 PM
Venus will be fine after she wins Wimbledon 2005! I can imagine her there with that awesome trophy! :D And I don't like you talking that Venus Williams played well and still lost to some "russian". If Venus even plays quite well she wins, she just had two time more errors than Maria. :rolleyes:

Rocketta
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:53 PM
I'm extremely proud of Venus! Onward and Upward Venus! :worship:

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:15 PM
I have actually become a fan of Venus since antwerp. I really wanted her to win that second today and play well in the third. I just hope she can improve her forehand for wimbledon. The serve seems to be back, almost. Volleys and backhand :yeah:

Actually I thought her forehand held up well, under Maria's pressure on it. That's all she tried to hit to. So, she did really well. I just think she needs to work on concentrating on her footwork and not lose concentration during the match.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:17 PM
Hey All,

Venus took the loss personally - and was feeling a lot more frustrated by it than any of us were - when she spoke in that interview. I think she did the interview well under the circumstances. The loss affected her - but she has always been able to move on past it. All players can admit they didn’t play the big points well - and especially upon making errors. Duh! Venus made too many - and Maria didn’t.

Venus has no reason to hang her head. May haps she was a little off because she didn’t get the 24 hours rest. She had played the nite before and Maria had played the day before. I don’t see why they didn’t make this one the nite match - although that doesn‘t mean the results would have been different.

Anyway - Maria was on her game and should be congratulated for playing such a clean and concentrated match. She deserved the win - because she won. Venus deserved the loss - because she lost. It really is that simple.

I still find myself extremely pleased w/Venus’s showing. Right back where she started from. Venus had a time beating Martina and Lindsay for awhile - but finally did. They were the epitome at that time - as it pertained to which players she needed to beat that were in her way. She must be thrilled at the challenge Maria presents. I still say that everyone needs (a) challenge(s) to keep them interested in life. After all - Venus won four majors w/i two years, and she lost six finals of majors for the next year and a half after that. That means that for three years - she came to play - dominate and rule.

If she wants it like that again - she can achieve it - she just has to get to where she was when she played well enough to start beating the players that had had her number. Maria presents such a challenge. Good on Venus for meeting her at this point in her career/game - face to face. That’s a challenge. Venus is rich - and could have been retired. In order for her to really try to get back to the top - she needs a challenge - and I would assume all players do.

There are others in the league that can trouble Venus - but Maria is now the test - IMO.

I waited almost three years from 1997 until 2000 before Venus began to turn the tables on her fiercest opponents - and began to play as her talent dictated. I can wait again.

“CONGRATS TO KIM AND MARIA” “COME ON KIM - SHOW US WHAT YOU’RE MADE OF - AND LLYETON”


"COME ON VENUS - SLIDE INTO THE CLAY SEASON W/YOUR STRENGTHS" "YOU CAN DO IT LIKE YOU HAD IT GOING ON LAST YEAR"

:worship: :worship: :worship:

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:22 PM
The only thing I can come up with is the name of the opponent, but regardless of who it could of been, her actual performance is what I feel is being lost and that is a shame.



Yes!

I can tell you why I'm upset about this loss. I love Vee and Rena, and I'm a big fan and I hate when any of my teams or favs lose. I don't care who the opponent is, I get sick. Even when I hear about the tourney or think about the match, I'm sick about it. I think it's a normal reaction. Then, I get over it and move on to the next game or tournament. I'm not just talking about tennis, but all sports.

Kart
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:25 PM
I like the positivity :).

Venus is back to full speed so it's just a matter of time :cool:.

Denise4925
Apr 1st, 2005, 06:26 PM
Venus will be fine after she wins Wimbledon 2005! I can imagine her there with that awesome trophy! :D And I don't like you talking that Venus Williams played well and still lost to some "russian". If Venus even plays quite well she wins, she just had two time more errors than Maria. :rolleyes:

I have to agree. I can't be satisfied with her loss. I'm happy knowing where her level of play is now and that she's almost, if not already, back to form. But, I want her to win, as I know she wants to win. I know she and Serena can't win them all, but I have hope that they can win everytime they step onto the court. And, I'm disappointed to say the least, when they don't.