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TeeRexx
Dec 30th, 2001, 09:16 AM
Well, lets get to the important matters regarding the WTA tour: fashions.

VENUS and SERENA WILLIAMS have been putting the tennis fashions in high gear the last few years and 2002 should bring about more of the same.

VENUS had a very, um, interesting outfit at the 2001 Oz, SERENA showed that shoes must coordinate with ones outfit and Hingis displayed a way to conserve material by just using one sleeve.

I can't wait to see what the ladies in 2002 will bring fashion wise to the tennis courts.

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

ttaM
Dec 30th, 2001, 11:23 AM
Good outfits for Monica in 2001

Red and White. @ Japan Open 2001<br /><a href="http://wso.net/monicaseles/newindex/japanopenrdqf.jpg" target="_blank">http://wso.net/monicaseles/newindex/japanopenrdqf.jpg</a>

Black (w/white and green lines). @ US Open 2001<br /><a href="http://wso.net/monicaseles/gallery/2001/selesrd1-3.jpg" target="_blank">http://wso.net/monicaseles/gallery/2001/selesrd1-3.jpg</a>

IMO Monica looks best in Black. I think White is her worst color.

The ugliest outfit (below). Thanks Yonex! This outfit I swear jinxes Monica. She wore it and lost to Jen at OZ, wore it and lost to Daja at the US Open. Wore it after OZ and became injured. Once she stopped wearing it she was winning. Burn that outfit Monica!<br /><a href="http://wso.net/monicaseles/gallery/2001/rd4ausopen2.jpg" target="_blank">http://wso.net/monicaseles/gallery/2001/rd4ausopen2.jpg</a>

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2001, 11:46 AM
I am looking forward to this more than the tennis <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

I am looking forward to seeing what Venus, Serena, Martina, Justine, Kim, Anna, Jennifer, Monica will all wear. I hope they wear something really different from the last season.

Especially Martina, she needs a change, I want to see her with a new hairdo and more classic outfits like what she wore at Australian Open 99, even though that was Sergio Tacchini.

I would like to see Justine keep her hairstyle and that cap, she looks sooo cute in that. However, I want to see her change outfits, it's getting boring. Maybe try different colours etc...

And of course Venus & Serena, I can't wait to see them in whatever they come out with!!!! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Will we see a Vee-peat outfit from Venus at the Australian Open? I hope so <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

http://webserver1.sport1.de/Bilder2000/Tennis/Slide_Show_Aus_open/venus_jubel_bil.onlineBild.jpg

<img src="graemlins/hearts.gif" border="0" alt="[Hearts]" /> <img src="graemlins/hearts.gif" border="0" alt="[Hearts]" /> <img src="graemlins/hearts.gif" border="0" alt="[Hearts]" />

Monica_Rules
Dec 30th, 2001, 01:02 PM
That 'builders bum' outfit was hidious!

JCAPfan
Dec 30th, 2001, 03:07 PM
Venus was totally embarrassed by wearing that outfit at the OZ Open 2001!! I remember most of the TV commentators were teasing her!!

TeeRexx
Dec 30th, 2001, 03:16 PM
jcap - Teasing? The women were jealous and the men were all quite pleased.<br />VENUS continued to be above petty comments and played good tennis. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

ANNA has fired the first fashion salvo with this very cute outfit.<br />---

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: TeeRexx ]http://kournikova.com/potd/large.jpg

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Heavy_Hitta
Dec 30th, 2001, 03:29 PM
Totally Embarrassed????

YOU "TOTALLY" EXAGGERATE. She later on stitched most of the opening shut, because I think she got tired of adjusting it all the time. Had NOTHING to do with somebody else's opinion.

The BEAUTIFUL people loved that outfit in it's ORIGINAL state. Mary Pierce, and Patrick Rafter. <img src="graemlins/hearts.gif" border="0" alt="[Hearts]" />

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veryborednow
Dec 30th, 2001, 03:40 PM
Monica_Rules - builders bum lmao!!!!

It looks a bit dodgy to be honest. I's like Kim to wear something slightly more adventurous just once <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

And I'd like Nike to change their clothes. The colours at the US Open , OMG <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> yuk

Heavy_Hitta
Dec 30th, 2001, 03:42 PM
<size=+2>http://bbs.artistdirect.com/images/smilies/wtg.gif</font> That's a HIT for Anna K.

She looks awesome there!!! Good going A.K.!!

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QueenO
Dec 30th, 2001, 06:04 PM
Look the truth is everybody can't put that on but Vee looked awesome. Just "Playa Hatin", women commentators. That top was just an excuse to talk about Vee. Let's not talk about that one arm wet suit hingis had the nerve to put on and cappy never ever needs to wear that dress she had on at the Erricson. Did I say never.

Sonja
Dec 31st, 2001, 03:10 AM
I wanta see shorts back on Amelie!

IAM#1
Dec 31st, 2001, 03:21 AM
I agree the women commentators were just mad because they did not have the guts or imagination to wear something like that.. UGH.. Most we always exaggerate.. It was cute.. they are leaders in fashion on the tour.. IMO, people need to fall in line.. Hingis' creation was not a creation but a rebirth of an outfit that Flo-Jo wore in the 1988 Seoul Olympics.. Lindsay would be cute in something skimpy.. and Jen needs to do an ab machine.. so she needs a change.. and Kim's hair is atrocious.

LucasArg
Dec 31st, 2001, 03:21 AM
I think Venus has the better out fit, she is also always very glamorous. Also Serena, expept for the yellow one, the one she used in Toronto this year.

I like some styles also like Rossana de los Rios and Maria Emilia Salerni.

Jordan.
Dec 31st, 2001, 03:59 AM
Martina looked wonderful this year.Venus' and Serena's outfits were cute. <img src="graemlins/drool.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool]" /> Linday's were ok..and Monica's were alittle plain(besides the red one).Same with Henin.Anna's clothes also looked wonderful.

ASV
Dec 31st, 2001, 06:39 AM
Mr. Blackwell (me) of the Tennis World has arrived back from Las Vegas to give his fashion predicions for 2002:

<ul type="square"> An American (prob. a Williams) will win a standing ovation as she (prob. Venus) reveals a red, white, and blue outfit in tribute to 9-11 Mary Pierce and Anna Kournikova will wear the best fashions Nagyova and Maleeva will look the best in Yonex Monica Seles will get the old Yonex clothes and cling to them Arantxa will get the ugliest four year old outfit possible Conchita will not change Justine will not change[/list]

Jovon
Dec 31st, 2001, 02:33 PM
lol@ASV. Good predictions! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

moon
Dec 31st, 2001, 03:09 PM
I happened to like Vee's outfit from last year, once she sowed it up.

lol@ASV. But if anyone wear's red white & blue, it will be Lindsay or Jen. Definitely not V or S, that would be a bit on the cheesy side.

Nina_rus
Dec 31st, 2001, 03:37 PM
who do you think will be Kim's new sponsor?

CC
Dec 31st, 2001, 06:18 PM
For 19? Justine ennah makes herself look too old. That tends to happen when children have had to grow up quickly, but still, I would love to see her change her outfit and give the cap a break.

IAM#1
Dec 31st, 2001, 06:22 PM
I think that all the American players should wear a red,white,and blue outfit similar to the leotards of the 1996 Olympic Gymnastics team each having their own little personal touch to their outfit to make it unique.. that would be really cool.. Venus' and Serena's would be the cutest!!!

TeeRexx
Dec 31st, 2001, 06:27 PM
Leotards?<br />On SERENA and VENUS?<br />I'll order my tickets NOW! <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

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IAM#1
Dec 31st, 2001, 06:47 PM
no NOT LEOTARDS the DESIGN ON HOW THE AMERICAN FLAG WAS ON THE LEOTARDS..... even though that would be nice.. LOL

CB
Dec 31st, 2001, 07:51 PM
Anna's new tank, from Adidas Store site!

http://thestore.adidas.com/q102a-live/65085_1.jpg

Is it ugly or what? <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

QueenV
Dec 31st, 2001, 09:23 PM
I liked mostly all of Venus's outfits last year. She's the best dresser on the tour, and can wear most things others wouldn't dare. The girl is taller than some supermodels, and would actually put some of them to shame had she taken up that profession instead of tennis. Thank God she didn't. You Go Venus! I also liked some of Serena's outfits. Her shoes were alright for a while and then I got tired of seeing them.

I don't know what the he!! Jennifer was thinking with some of her outfits. Maybe they shrunk or something when she washed them. I did like the one outfit she wore at the US Open though. It was red with gray down the sides. Martina's outfit looked like she was going to suffocate. It made me uncomfortable just looking at it.

I can't wait to see the outfits of 2002! It's like waiting to see what celebrities will wear to the Grammy's or Oscars.

ASV
Dec 31st, 2001, 09:28 PM
I like Anna's new outfit...only the light blue is better.<br />It has flare and brings a new sense of style to the court. It doesn't really matter what it looks like, however, shes getting paid soo much!!

Mary Pierce is the best dressed female, IAM#1! She is a true innovator of fashions on the WTA Tour and always looks the best. Please, don't even say she isn't...everyone knows its true!!

ttaM
Dec 31st, 2001, 09:29 PM
Monica looks great in this picture! I like the shirt to. Even though I can only see the side.

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/dpa/20011231/671997980.jpg

ASV
Jan 1st, 2002, 01:21 AM
I like Mon's shirt, too!

Can someone give me a link to the pictures section of excite?? The old link is dead and I can't find it on the site! THANKS!

BTW: Is that a/n wristband or a wrist guard on Monica's arm?

Tennisace
Jan 1st, 2002, 03:47 AM
Kim was wearing a really nice number from Nike today, even tho she lost! <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

Its a red sleevless top. Its kinda of like a tanktop buts its one of those shirts that's a mix between a shirt and a tanktop. Ummm its hard to explain. Its the type of shirt that Martina wore in estyle classic. And she's wearing a blue skirt.

I don't think Lindsay will wear it. It has this one hole thing near the armpit like Kim's Wimby outfit!

Williams Rulez
Jan 1st, 2002, 06:54 AM
I am looking forward to more outrageous outfits this year!! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

jel-x
Jan 1st, 2002, 07:15 AM
I would like to see Martina come back with an old tennis dress and a wooden racket and go old school serve & volley on everyone. Not likely to happen, but that would make me happy.

ASV
Jan 1st, 2002, 04:57 PM
Kim's outfit:<br />http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20020101/mdf106816.jpg

Brian Stewart
Jan 1st, 2002, 05:02 PM
If not leotards, then how about red, white, and blue tennis panties? That way they could show off their... er... patriotic spirit.

veryborednow
Jan 1st, 2002, 05:18 PM
BS - Like cheerleaders?? Yeah let them bring on pom-poms at the same time. I'd love to see Lindsay as a cheerleader <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

IAM#1
Jan 1st, 2002, 06:23 PM
I like Kim's new outfit.. I am glad my little thing on leotards is being recognized <img src="cool.gif" border="0"> If you have ever seen the 1996 gymnastics team leotards design the American women would look cute in them.. Kim just needs to do something with her hair.. straighten it or something.. it look matted.. UGH

Vanity
Jan 1st, 2002, 06:54 PM
The worst outfit EVER has to be what Ashley Harkleroad wore at the 2001 US Open. Venus' Aussie Open outfit is a close second.

I always thought Anna looked nice in her adidas clothes. The new ones look very good as well.. she just needs to get rid of the belt. I also usually like Serena's clothes and Mary's clothes as well. Mary was probably one of the first players to stop wearing those ugly pleated skirts <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[ January 01, 2002: Message edited by: Vanity ]</p>

All4Williams
Jan 1st, 2002, 07:04 PM
I really liked Venus's Wimbledon outfit. I have not seen it in London shops though. Is it on sale in America. Oh so cool..

Heavy_Hitta
Jan 1st, 2002, 07:29 PM
[quote]Mary Pierce is the best dressed female, IAM#1! She is a true innovator of fashions on the WTA Tour and always looks the best. Please, don't even say she isn't...everyone knows its true!!<hr></blockquote>

IF this is a fact, then WHY is the FASHION INDUSTRY, paying their attention to the WILLIAMSES and KOURNIKOVA????

Mary was holding it down, UNTIL Ebony*2 and Ivory SHOWED UP ON THE SCENE, and TOOK OVER. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <br /><center><font size=+1>Venus Serena Anna!</center></font>

Mary can step out looking luscious, BUT compared to the Williams and Kournikova, she's still just another drop in the bucket. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Like QueenVsaid about Venus,"The girl is taller than some supermodels, and would actually put some of them to shame had she taken up that profession instead of tennis."

Venus could EASILY hang with Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks and Roshumba, the BEST strutters on the catwalk!

Face it! VENUS, SERENA, ANNA are Runnin' the show now!! <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

Bounce Wit Me!! <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

ASV
Jan 1st, 2002, 07:48 PM
You are sooo wrong!! Look at Mary's outfits throughout RG 00. They were some of the most stylish outfits ever in the tennis world! Face it....Venus and Serena may design their own clothes, but Mary takes the cake. Easily.

ASV
Jan 1st, 2002, 08:03 PM
What an absolutely stunning outfit!!!<br />http://www.azter.com/images/4/p136.jpg

Sure can't say the same about this one:<br />http://webserver1.sport1.de/Bilder2000/Tennis/Slide_Show_Aus_open/venus_jubel_bil.onlineBild.jpg

ASV
Jan 1st, 2002, 08:04 PM
Same with this one!<br />http://www.azter.com/images/3/p113.jpg

MinskLynx
Jan 1st, 2002, 08:10 PM
For me, less is better. I wonder why a number of very fit and beautiful WTA players dont do the same! You wear a medium, wear the small. Harckleroad did this and it was very pretty, there was nothing holding her back. <br />I cant wait for new fashion lines so I can buy buy buy.

ASV
Jan 1st, 2002, 08:28 PM
Don't be surprised if Mary wears something like this:<br />http://niketown.nike.com/img/prod/241270/241270_710_CAT-4.JPG<br />or this<br />http://niketown.nike.com/img/prod/241250/241250_010_CAT-4.JPG

Heavy_Hitta
Jan 1st, 2002, 09:08 PM
Sorry ASV... But Miss Mary is gonna get STRAIGHT CLOWNED if she shows up wearing those HORIZONTAL Stipes. She's TOO broad for them, remember?

And please, Gilligan... IF you can LIKE that Funky Skunk dress Mary is sportin' , then I can surely LIKE Venus' peak-a-boo in black and blue dress as well!

<br />Bounce Wit Me! <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

Ted of Teds Tennis
Jan 1st, 2002, 09:37 PM
Harkleroad's outfit at the US Open was absolutely *awful*. Daja Bedanova wore the same pattern, but it looked very good on her. I think the reason is that Bedanova appeared to have a smaller bust-line, so that while the outfit accented her figure, it made Harkleroad appear squeezed into the outfit (almost as though there was a deliberate attempt to show off T&A for the male fans who care about that more than the tennis). It didn't help, either, that Harkleroad has a mole just above one of here breasts that was made very obvious by that outfit.

I forgot how awful Venus' Oz outfit was. I think Venus would look great in a traditional white tennis dress, as would Mary Pierce. I'm thinking something along the lines of the "skunk" outfit that was posted here, but in all-white. I don't think Venus should wear the dress she currently does, as it makes her shoulder blades stick out, and that's a part of the body I don't particularly find pleasing to look at. (On anybody. This isn't a knock on Venus! I know that the Williams fans on this board seem to be overly defensive about anybody who might have something less than complimentary to say about Venus' Oz outfit. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> ) At least Venus has stopped wearing that jewel-studded dog collar she had on her 2000 US Open outfit!

As for Serena, she ought to leave the yellow-and-green outfit to Kuerten and the rest of the Brazilians. I don't like those hot pink sneakers, either.

And I *like* Hénin's outfits. The really look good on her. I don't think she would look so good wearing, say, the type of tennis dress that Venus wears. And I like the cap too.

--Ted

QueenV
Jan 2nd, 2002, 03:14 AM
ASV I like the outfit with the white top and striped bottom. That's kinda hot. But I'm sorry even if you didn't like the outfit that Venus wore at OZ you have to admit that looking at Venus and Mary together that Venus still looks better even in something that some people didn't take to. Let me put it like this. Venus could wear a paper bag on the court and still put Mary to shame. LOL! I'm a girl and I don't roll that way, but I can atleast admit when somone has it like that, and Venus certainly does.

theultimateone
Jan 2nd, 2002, 07:46 AM
Venus is the BEST -- no CONTEST!!!

shallet
Jan 2nd, 2002, 07:57 AM
Venus looks good wearing any outfit. <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

she has a perfect BODY for any thing

TeeRexx
Jan 2nd, 2002, 03:39 PM
VENUS' latest outfit. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

http://www.tennisaustralia.com.au/TennisAu/tennisau.nsf/0/eca3a508914e3ed2ca256b350035da0c/Body/0.98?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

Hmm, nice.

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Brian Stewart
Jan 2nd, 2002, 04:47 PM
Mary is wearing a version of the first outfit, with the solid pastel top (hers is in light blue) and striped skirt (blue). There are some pics of it online at the <a href="http://www.sports.com" target="_blank">www.sports.com</a> site, from front and back, including a pic of Mary "adjusting" herself.

This is what we were missing with Mary and Anna out of action for so much of last year (as well as Venus missing the fall): the fashion battles! Every slam is the premiere of a new style.

[ January 02, 2002: Message edited by: Brian Stewart ]</p>

ASV
Jan 2nd, 2002, 08:21 PM
Venus's outfits aren't even that good! You're just saying they are because you're fans of her...

I'm Arantxa's #1 fan...but that doesn't mean that I like what she wears....I hate it!!!

Mary looks so amazing in her new outfit. The outfit is VERY nice and it has a nice strapped back. Venus's is almost the same exact style as before only with some ugly bee-hive on the back and a seperate skirt.

Mary takes the cake and it tastes GOOD! <img src="graemlins/drool.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool]" /> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

ASV
Jan 2nd, 2002, 08:23 PM
Just look at that outfit!

http://www.sports.com/tennis/pictures/MDF54986.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020102/capt.1009985366hong_kong_tennis_challenge_xhk107.j pg

pisces
Jan 2nd, 2002, 08:29 PM
The bottom of that is ugly.sorry.

Heavy_Hitta
Jan 2nd, 2002, 08:44 PM
Mary is looking super fit! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> BUT that top looks like a damn medical back brace from behind. The skirt is ... well, WHAT did I tell you about HORIZONTAL stripes on Mary AVS??? Ain't working.<br />The colors are suck also. Miss Mary's rating can't get past okay with this one. It's .. okay.

So far, ANNA and VENUS are wayyy out front... again. It's only a matter of time before SERENA joins them. <img src="graemlins/lick.gif" border="0" alt="[Lick]" />

Bounce Wit Me! <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

QueenV
Jan 2nd, 2002, 09:49 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario:<br /><strong>Venus's outfits aren't even that good! You're just saying they are because you're fans of her...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why do people on this board insist on stereotyping everybody? Let me clarify something for you. I don't judge things based on my fav. player. I can recognize things without being blinded by my appreciation for my fav. Just because someone likes something that happens to involve their fav. doesn't mean they are only saying it because of that. Please people there are some posters on this board that can see things objectively. I could easily stereotype groups of people on this board, but it wouldn't be fair to the open-minded posters. You know the ones that can admit right or wrong? The same ones that can recognize unjust statements by their favs. and fellow fans.

By the way the outfits really only show style, but a person that can where anything and look decent is something different. So Mary might have some hot outfits, but to me Venus looks good in just about anything she wears. Whether people think it's ugly or not. They can't truthfully deny that she doesn't have a model body. I wasn't knocking Mary's outfits if that's what your worried about. I was just saying that any outfit she wears Venus would look better in just for the fact that she has a better physique.

Viva
Jan 3rd, 2002, 02:49 AM
Is that Mary? Ummm is she planning on going to dacing lessons after the match?

tenn_ace
Jan 3rd, 2002, 03:56 AM
Caio Braz

no, it's not...

<img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

tazban1
Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:27 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ted of Teds Tennis:<br />[QB]Harkleroad's outfit at the US Open was absolutely *awful*. Daja Bedanova wore the same pattern, but it looked very good on her. I think the reason is that Bedanova appeared to have a smaller bust-line,

actually, I think the reason Daja looked better was because she wore something under the top. I think it was one of those sports bras that look like a cropped tank top. I think that top was made with the intention that something was worn under it that would show in the neck line (either that or for streetwalking). Sort of like when people wear T-shirts under button shirts. The neck line is so low-cut and wide that if you had anything at all substantial on your chest, it would easily flop out. Ashley didn't wear a sports bra under her top so it showed almost her whole chest, but she doesn't have a lot on top and the outfit was circulation cuttingly tight so there really wasn't much likelihood that she'd fall out. Although, even then, I was worried that a nipple would pop out if she twisted in the wrong way.

<br />I forgot how awful Venus' Oz outfit was. I think Venus would look great in a traditional white tennis dress, as would Mary Pierce.

I agree. I normally like bright colors, but I think Venus looks the best in white.

<br /> And I *like* Hénin's outfits. The really look good on her. I don't think she would look so good wearing, say, the type of tennis dress that Venus wears. And I like the cap too.

I don't think Henin's outfits are terrible, but she could definitely do better. I don't think she should be wearing Venus-type outfits, but I think she could find something a little less dowdy and better fitted.

tazban1
Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:50 AM
[quote]Originally posted by QueenV:<br />[QB]

Why do people on this board insist on stereotyping everybody? Let me clarify something for you. I don't judge things based on my fav. player. I can recognize things without being blinded by my appreciation for my fav.

Of course, if you were one of those people who got blinded by their fandom, you wouldn't see it. (I'm not saying you are, just pointing out a flaw in your logic).

QueevV:<br />"good in just about anything she wears. Whether people think it's ugly or not. They can't truthfully deny that she doesn't have a model body. I wasn't knocking Mary's outfits if that's what your worried about. I was just saying that any outfit she wears Venus would look better in just for the fact that she has a better physique"QB]<hr></blockquote>

firstly, a lot of people can honestly deny that Venus has a model body. Objectively compare her to models in the fashion magazines. Venus is pretty much straight up and down while even the scrawniest models have a bit more curve between the hip and the waist and the chest (not necessarily breast size, but a frame curve). When you divide the waist measurement by the hip measurement, the result is normally around .7 Although I have to give credit to Venus for one thing: Even though she may not always have the prettiest outfits, she does a good job of picking outfits that give the illusion of a curvier body. Personal style is all about accentuating the positive and hiding the negatives of your body.

tazban1
Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:59 AM
Oops. part of my post is in between the two quotes of Queen V.

btw, I forgot one more thing. I have to disagree with the comment that Venus has a better physique than Mary. Of course, it depends on what you mean by better physique: pure feminine aesthetics or in the sense of health and fitness. Obviously (to me), Venus wins in the latter, but since this is a fashion thread, I'm going by the standard of the former. Traditionally, and by most people's standards today (if going purely by the body i.e. between the neck and the thinghs), mary easily has the better physique. Although, personally, I think Mary could stand to tone up a bit.

QueenV
Jan 3rd, 2002, 08:45 PM
Tazban saying that I'm not blinded by my appreciation for a fav. player is not a flaw. If it were then all the people on here that bitch about how other fans are too obsessed with their fav. would be lying as well, because they couldn't see that they are the same way. Not that I'm saying that they are, but the way your saying it makes it seem like either way whether someone admits to it or not it's a flaw because they wouldn't be able to see it. It really doesn't matter anyway. I can tell from your post that you don't know me. How could anyone really know a person on these boards. But I asure you whether you believe me or not that I think independently. I make my own decisions after I look at situations in full view. I'm a virgo man, that's what we do analyze. LOL. I'm not biased toward any players or fans for that matter and if you think I am because I say I'm not then so be it.

As far as Venus being compared to a model. I've seen her stand next to a supermodel at an award show. She was wearing a full length silver gown. Not only was she taller than the model but she also looked better physically. Now that is my opinion. But I've seen pictures and videos of models before they were famous and most of them had basically the same measurements. Long limbs slim bodies hardly any curves. I doubt that if Venus had chosen to model that with her physique she would have been turned down. But of course in your eyes that would just be me blinded by my fandom. LOL.

Have you seen the movie Higher Learning? Tyra Banks plays in it as a college track star. Look at her in that movie and look at her on the runway and it would appear that her body is slightly different. In the movie her chest doesn't look nearly as full as when she's modeling for Victoria Secret nor does her body look as athletic or straight as it did in the movie. Now picture Venus playing tennis. Then picture Venus in her Reebok commercial or Wilson Leather commercial and she looks different. Call me bias or whatever, but I see a resemblance between Venus and many other models that have graced the run way. Without the help they are all willowy. Tall, slender, and graceful. With the help they are all tall, slender, graceful, and full.

As far as Mary's physique compared to Venus's. Well that's all a matter of opinion. I don't know what men like in women. Some I guess like more body fat others less I guess. I really wouldn't know. I don't look at them that way. The way I look at it is if both of them wore the same outfits fitted to their bodies who would look better. I will admit that my opinion on this is a little biased. Not because of me being a fan of Venus, but because of everyone having a different opinion of what they think looks good on a particular body. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">