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selesfan1
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:16 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.

bandabou
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:17 PM
When did she say this?

Stamp Paid
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:17 PM
:bigclap:

Cam'ron Giles
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:18 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.

Boohoooo...:rolleyes:

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:18 PM
Serena :worship:

mishar
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Wow! You have a fervid imagination. She might have said something to Peer at the net, but she also complimented her on a good match. And I didn't see her calling her a bitch.

Serena's just intense on court. So was Shahar -- pumping her fists as well. Good for tennis

LindsayRulez
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:19 PM
LOL When the shook hands, Serena said (loud and clear) Did you try to hit me on that one shot? (Shahar: No.) Serena: Are you sure? (Shahar: Yeah.) Serena: ok. Nice match.

And when they asked her afterward what she said to her at net, she said "oh i just told her good job!" smiling like a devil lol too funny Serena!!!

harloo
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.

I knew it would wouldn't be long before a hater came out bashing Serena. Get the fuck ova it!

venus_rulez
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.


Please. You don't believe this at all, and what an obvious attempt to get people upset over nothing. it was good tennis by both players and an exciting intense match. Again, what a pathetic attempt to cause this board to go in uproar.

G1Player2
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.

What an idiot...

Serena and Peer had a nice heart to heart at the net after the match and Serena told her "good job" as well...:rolleyes:

grmbl
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Goo Serena! :bounce:

Sharar, You BITCH.. :p

vettipooh
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Nice going, Rena..:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Staticbeef
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Boohoooo...:rolleyes: :wavey: Din't hear anybody call anybody a B*tch :wavey:

VeeDaQueen
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:20 PM
did she really call her a bitch :eek:

shap_half
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:21 PM
It's funny. because if this happened to serena everyone would raise hell.
let people complain about how much she disrespects others and what a big hypocrite she is otherwise don't participate on the board.

selesfan1
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Did no one hear her asking her at the net Are you sure you didn't try to hit me on that shot? and peer looked scared and shook her head no. What kind of trash is that asking that to a 17 year old and believe me you could read serena's lips after the shot saying B*tch.

starr
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.

Serena has drilled opponents on more than one ocassion.... LOts of times when playing doubles.

She was pissed off even before that shot. Shaking her fist at Peer and glaring at her. It was embarassing. Peer isn't even a threat to Serena.

Meteor Shower
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:21 PM
:o

nikita771
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Okay..I"m still trying to find the part where Serena called Peer a name. She did ask if she tried to hit her on the last shot and she ask if she was sure, but even during the point - I didn't see her lips form anything like that.

G1Player2
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:23 PM
Did no one hear her asking her at the net Are you sure you didn't try to hit me on that shot? and peer looked scared and shook her head no. What kind of trash is that asking that to a 17 year old and believe me you could read serena's lips after the shot saying B*tch.

I'm watching the match again now...Serena did NOT say B*ITCH...I repeat Serena did not say B*ITCH...End of story!

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:23 PM
It's funny. because if this happened to serena everyone would raise hell.
let people complain about how much she disrespects others and what a big hypocrite she is otherwise don't participate on the board.


Oh please, it happens to Serena and people raise hell. It happens to other players and people raise hell :rolleyes:

Rocketta
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:23 PM
Serena has drilled opponents on more than one ocassion.... LOts of times when playing doubles.

She was pissed off even before that shot. Shaking her fist at Peer and glaring at her. It was embarassing. Peer isn't even a threat to Serena.

Oh :bs:

Peer was fighting out there and pumping her fist and getting into the match and so was Serena.

victory1
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:23 PM
It's funny. because if this happened to serena everyone would raise hell.
let people complain about how much she disrespects others and what a big hypocrite she is otherwise don't participate on the board.

Because it never happened!:rolleyes: Selesfan is a mind reader!!:tape:

mishar
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:23 PM
I think Serena over-reacted a little to that attempted passing shot -- but tennis is a very emotional sport. I know I've overreacted sometimes in the middle of a match.

Anyway, I assume Shahar is a tough cookie. I doubt she's fazed by a few glares. From what I know of Israelis, they're not generally shrinking violets. ;-)

Brooks.
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:24 PM
Serena! :bounce: :hearts: .......clean up those errors girl

starr
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:24 PM
Did no one hear her asking her at the net Are you sure you didn't try to hit me on that shot? and peer looked scared and shook her head no. What kind of trash is that asking that to a 17 year old and believe me you could read serena's lips after the shot saying B*tch.

I thought I saw her say Bitch too after that shot, but I'm sure there will be any number of people telling me I'm wrong and that Serena was calling herself a bitch instead like they do when I bring it up about Serena saying Fuck you to Loit. :lol: :lol:

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:24 PM
I'm watching the match again now...Serena did NOT say B*ITCH...I repeat Serena did not say B*ITCH...End of story!


Of course Serena didn't call Peer out of her name.

How would that happen first of all witout the commentators saying a thing :confused:

People can dislike Serena all they want but lying and fabricating stuff is so low.

~{X}~
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:24 PM
I'm a Serena fan and after Sharar went for the shot but it didn't go over the net, I did see Serena mouth something like B*tch and then some other words lol. But no I mean it was just in the heat of competition. It was an intense match. I don't blame Serena. When I play, I am known for saying a word here or there. ;). Its perfectly natural! :devil:

-Kieron-
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:25 PM
LOL. Go Serena! :)

VeNuS#1LoVa
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:25 PM
Did no one hear her asking her at the net Are you sure you didn't try to hit me on that shot? and peer looked scared and shook her head no. What kind of trash is that asking that to a 17 year old and believe me you could read serena's lips after the shot saying B*tch.

Thanks for filling me in. I caught something about the net, Peer saying no, and Serena saying oh ok or something. That was a really rude thing to do. If I was Shahar, I'd be hitting em at Serena too anyone would. If someone was pissing Rena off, she'd fire it up and aim right at them too. Serena should've just been like ok this girl is like me, but I'm better at it. There was no reason to bring it up at the end.

Nevertheless, I still love Serena...:hearts:

G_Slammed
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:25 PM
Okay..I"m still trying to find the part where Serena called Peer a name.



You won't find it.

But..like these other dumbfucks..you could always talk about how you read it on her lips...lol...



Sorry ass fucklets.

victory1
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.

You need to stop making up stories. I'm watching the match again, I Tivo it and you are a damn LIAR!!:lol:

VeNuS#1LoVa
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
What did she say when Cliff asked her about it? I ran downstairs to see it, but I missed it...

bandabou
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
I'd like to take Lindsay's version of the matter......well, maybe Serena felt it that way..but in the end all was nice and cool, wasn't it?

SerenaSlam
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.
see hear it is evdient that you just got a little too excited as you continued to shit talk serena. saying that Peer was stretched out and that was her only choice? the gurl had a moonball after serena did the stupidest volley at the net. and she went right at serena. that is why serena questioned and asked her.

thing about it is, this is why i say over and over again when we have these threads about who would beat who's ass etc etc, serena ain't no joke, she plays no games, and she is serious out there on the court. what you see is what you get. serena is the only person i know that will look her opponent dead in their eye no matter what. she keeps it real. that is why she asked Peer after the match.

Serena grew up honest and out spoken. i am the same way. why hold somthing in, if you have a question or a problem u need to address it, not doing this only prolongs things, u know beatin around the bush for no reason. i was hopin serena had some words for the gurl. she really did go straight at her, and she DID NOT have to.

nice match though. serena was just a little off today, and PEER just feed of her errors.again nice match. but please stop with the bull shit.

also...serena was not "disrespectful" that i 1 word i take serious and that didn't show at all in this match.

stop hatin!

Stamp Paid
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
I thought I saw her say Bitch too after that shot, but I'm sure there will be any number of people telling me I'm wrong and that Serena was calling herself a bitch instead like they do when I bring it up about Serena saying Fuck you to Loit. :lol: :lol:

:rolleyes: I thought this was discussed: Serena screamed out, "You fucking failure!" during that match. I'm pretty sure she was talking to herself. ;)

franny
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Seriously Serena is so funny. She's got a great personality.

VeNuS#1LoVa
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Serena did say something after Shahar missed it into the net, I couldnt catch what it was tho....

~Cherry*Blossom~
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Serena even called Venus a "Fucking Bitch" during a Wimbledon match (or may have said "fuck you" )

I didn't see the match so I don't know whether Serena called Peer a bitch or not!

shap_half
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Serena can say whatever she wants to say. God knows if I was in that type of pressure and competitive atmosphere, I'd be saying just about anything in the heat of the moment. But that doesn't mean that people are not going to form opinions about the situation.

LeRoy.
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:28 PM
Why are people suprised ? Its not the first time she has called an opponent a bitch, is it ? I remember her calling Loit at the AO 2003 and even her own sister at some GS final (?)

Brandon85
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:28 PM
why would you ask someone if they tried to hit you. that's not a bad thing to do, it's actually pretty smart. i remember players before hitting serena or aiming right at her and she didn't get all frisky. serena is a byatch- get over it girl.

vettipooh
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:28 PM
selesfan1 looking for controversy....Serena may have asked her about trying to hit her on that shot, but the B word is a figment of selesfan imagination.Let's wait and see what Peer has to say.

starr
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:29 PM
Oh :bs:

Peer was fighting out there and pumping her fist and getting into the match and so was Serena.

Not like Serena. Peer had discreet fist pumps. I didnt' see her put up her fist over the net and glare and yell at Serena. If that happened I didn't see it. Yet Serena did this more than once.


I was wondering what Peer, a very lowly ranked player who was in no danger of winning this match, had done to upset Serena.

And for those who think Serena merely said "Good job" at the net. :haha:

OUT!
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:29 PM
I admire Serena even more - she should have said that to Maria Alves :bigclap:

starr
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:30 PM
selesfan1 looking for controversy....Serena may have asked her about trying to hit her on that shot, but the B word is a figment of selesfan imagination.Let's wait and see what Peer has to say.

It's not a claim that Serena said "bitch" at the net, but right after Peer's shot went into the net.

~{X}~
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:30 PM
I admire Serena even more - she should have said that to Maria Alves :bigclap:


I'm sure she did a couple of times in her head haha! :tape: :lol:

bandabou
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:31 PM
It's cool...hey she even called Venus bitch, sooo......but at the end she seemed all cool with the girl...

VeNuS#1LoVa
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:31 PM
Serena never said F you or F B to Venus, I have that one on tape and I remember rewinding it over and over, she said something something Damn you Serena, but it wasn't anything negative toward Venus.

LindsayRulez
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:31 PM
I'd like to take Lindsay's version of the matter......well, maybe Serena felt it that way..but in the end all was nice and cool, wasn't it?

What do you mean "Lindsay's version of the matter?" Lindsay doesn't call her opponents bitches (not that I blame Serena for it, it was a heat of the moment thing, IF she did in fact say that). So what are you saying?

LiliaLee-Frazier
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Are you sure she said that ? I thought the WILLIAMS do not swear because of there religious background and because there father is always puting down CAP for her mouth :confused:

SerenaSlam
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:33 PM
also there is nothing wrong with serena asking peer if she was trying to go straight at her.....please explain to me why this is a problem.

i think what the problem is the majority of yall in here when it comes to 1 on 1 confrontations with individuals are just scared etc and cannot do it....so u all think that its disrespectful etc etc to come at someone the way serena did.....i was brought up to do what serena did. when it comes to anything and everything....

Serena was wondering to herself if the gurl was trying to go straight at her....too stop herself from wondering she went straight to the source....no longer does she have to wonder b/c she got her answer....again nothing wrong with asking questions or confronting people directly.....i think if more of you all did it, ud see ur lives as going by better and smoother!

G_Slammed
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Whatever Serena said after that point, she's obviously the only one who can claim to have heard it. The rest of you can't claim that you heard her say anything.. you can only talk about "mouthed", and how you read her lips.



So.. as far as you are concerned, she didn't say it. Don't have her on audio so forget it.

LindsayRocks89
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:33 PM
i watched it, and i'll watch it again, but i don't remember Hearing Serena call her that.

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:34 PM
I love Serena but she was disrespectful today. She just was irritated by Peer's game. I watch the point over and over and Serena did say "That Bitch Tried to Hit Me" at 5-3 0-15 in the 2nd set. I don't understand why she would say that though. Peer could have hit it anywhere but she didn't have to. She was annoyed by the calls that were definately out and Peer's attitude. Serena was just annoyed that this girl was not gonna give up. The line calls should have been taken up by someone other than Peer. Serena won't be seeing Peer again in this tourni but the person in the chair and judging the lines she will see again. This is her tourni to win so she should make sure that the calls go her way. Also she didn't let go of Peer's hand till after she asked are u sure. I'm not sure what Serena would have done if Peer said yes but Serena seemed to have an attitude for most of that match.

G_Slammed
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:35 PM
i watched it, and i'll watch it again, but i don't remember Hearing Serena call her that.



Oh but didn't you...lol.. read her lips?????



Idiots. (not you LRock)

harloo
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:36 PM
Not like Serena. Peer had discreet fist pumps. I didnt' see her put up her fist over the net and glare and yell at Serena. If that happened I didn't see it. Yet Serena did this more than once.


I was wondering what Peer, a very lowly ranked player who was in no danger of winning this match, had done to upset Serena.

And for those who think Serena merely said "Good job" at the net. :haha:

Of course you didn't see Shahar's glaring fist pumps at Serena, because you didn't see the whole match and you seem to see what you want to see.:lol:

OUT!
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:36 PM
I'm sure she did a couple of times in her head haha! :tape: :lol:
I wonder if Alves contemplates with dread the day she umpires Serena again - Alves had better be on her best behaviour with those line calls :lol: :tape: :mad:

jfk
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:37 PM
I usually like Serena, but I was really disappointed with her behavior throughout the match. She was not just intense, but angry and unpleasant to watch. It seemed like she expected Peer to give up, and when she didn't, Serena got pissed early on. Peer was not a threat to Serena today so there was no reason Serena had to go to those lengths to intimidate her young opponent.

Serena wants to entertain and to be loved, but she can't expect that to happen if she is going to display that kind of anger on the court when it's not called for.

And Peer's fistpumps and intensity were not inappropriate at all. She was the underdog and was losing game after game despite coming really close to success. I don't blame her at all. Serena does not have the same excuse.

erik-the-red
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:37 PM
I saw the match on ESPN2. I was not actually courtside during the match. So, I have no idea what Serena really said. But! I did see her mouth something after the "point" in question.

I was surprised that Serena went Lleyton Hewitt-sytle during this match. She was fist-pumping and yelling "Come on!" just like the Aussie.

creepy stalker
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:37 PM
get over it. if someone tries to hit me, i'd not just stop at the bitch part.

G_Slammed
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:39 PM
I watch the point over and over and Serena did say "That Bitch Tried to Hit Me" at 5-3 0-15 in the 2nd set.


UNLESS the mic picked it up... she didn't say this. End of story. The "she mouthed it", "I read her lips" bull isn't good enough.

Stamp Paid
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:39 PM
I love Serena but she was disrespectful today. She just was irritated by Peer's game. I watch the point over and over and Serena did say "That Bitch Tried to Hit Me" at 5-3 0-15 in the 2nd set. I don't understand why she would say that though. Peer could have hit it anywhere but she didn't have to. She was annoyed by the calls that were definately out and Peer's attitude. Serena was just annoyed that this girl was not gonna give up. The line calls should have been taken up by someone other than Peer. Serena won't be seeing Peer again in this tourni but the person in the chair and judging the lines she will see again. This is her tourni to win so she should make sure that the calls go her way. Also she didn't let go of Peer's hand till after she asked are u sure. I'm not sure what Serena would have done if Peer said yes but Serena seemed to have an attitude for most of that match.

I'm sure Serena would pulled out the razor she keeps in her shoe and cut her. :rolleyes:

I dont blame Peer - I would have gone at Serena too, if I thought that was gonna win the point. And I wouldn't give a damn what Serena called me. And if Serena asked me at net, I would have said "Yeah, I was hoping that would get me a point." and smiled.

I think some of you all have personal insecurites that makes Serena seem scary or intimidating to you. :scared:

mishar
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:40 PM
get over it. if someone tries to hit me, i'd not just stop at the bitch part.

Well then I suggest you not go to the net when you play tennis or you're gonna be getting angry a lot.

:wavey:

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:41 PM
I usually like Serena, but I was really disappointed with her behavior throughout the match. She was not just intense, but angry and unpleasant to watch. It seemed like she expected Peer to give up, and when she didn't, Serena got pissed early on. Peer was not a threat to Serena today so there was no reason Serena had to go to those lengths to intimidate her young opponent.

You saw what you wanted. Serena wasn't "happy" even being up 5-0. What's your excuse to that now? You have another spin to explain that?

And Peer's fistpumps and intensity were not inappropriate at all. She was the underdog and was losing game after game despite coming really close to success. I don't blame her at all. Serena does not have the same excuse.

Neither Serena's or Peer's fist pumpings were out of order. They are opponents and professionals - it happens in a match for goodness sake.

Scotso
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:42 PM
You know, mouthing that someone is a bitch is fine with me.... especially if they don't see it, whatever. Who cares?

But for the Serena fans denying this even happened, think again. She very clearly said it. Again, I don't give a rats ass either way, but to say it didn't happen is to be delusional.

Brooks.
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:44 PM
Ok IF WE HONESTLY WANT TO GET PICKY HERE: let's talk about Peer's behavior as well............she was saying come on at all most all of serena's errors.......she had several net cords and pumped fists right at serena.......honestly people it runs both ways.......and if serena did say something then it was during a heated moment and it is over now.....obviously she must have felt like peer aimed at her just to hit her.....maybe peer had a smirk on her face after she did it........the reality is that we were not on the court so we dont know the whole story!!!! :wavey:

Go Serena! :hearts:

Angel_Mars
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Serena acted horrible. She was whiny, pouty, and scowling the whole match because a young newcomer just happened to try and make her work for her win. The bared teeth scream across the net at Peer was bad enough, but the nasty comments after the match to a teenager that was simply trying to win, was terrible. Serena is the BITCH.....................can't wait to watch her lose. :mad:

bandabou
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:45 PM
What do you mean "Lindsay's version of the matter?" Lindsay doesn't call her opponents bitches (not that I blame Serena for it, it was a heat of the moment thing, IF she did in fact say that). So what are you saying?

Sorry..I was refering to you..but couldn't remember your username..

vettipooh
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Oh well..in 97' Vee should have asked Irina if she deliberately bumped into her :lol: she didn't...Serena's not Vee.. she don't take no sh**. She didn't want to go to bed speculating...she went to the source and got her answer...no harm done..matter settled.;)

Stamp Paid
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:46 PM
You know, mouthing that someone is a bitch is fine with me.... especially if they don't see it, whatever. Who cares?

But for the Serena fans denying this even happened, think again. She very clearly said it. Again, I don't give a rats ass either way, but to say it didn't happen is to be delusional.

I agree, because I saw what Serena was saying exactly as she was saying it. :o And I laughed, I have seen Serena say far worse on court. She curses whenever shes frustrated. Shes said, "You better not lose this motherfucking match," called both Sharapova and Venus bithces during matches, etc. Thats Serena, shes competitive as hell.

However, if she mouthed it to herself and didnt say it to her opponent, I dont understand how that was disrespectful. :confused:

Tennisaddict
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Wow Serena really is the main topic on GM this is the fifth thread already.
You go girl :lol:.

LindsayRocks89
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Peer was fist pumping just as much as Serena. some of you must really have nothing better to do if you're just going to assume serena said something by saying you know she lipped it or was thinking it. she didn't say it. you could hear what she said at the match also, and it was something like were you trying to hit me on that point, and then she said are you sure, and ok.

harloo
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Serena acted horrible. She was whiny, pouty, and scowling the whole match because a young newcomer just happened to try and make her work for her win. The bared teeth scream across the net at Peer was bad enough, but the nasty comments after the match to a teenager that was simply trying to win, was terrible. Serena is the BITCH.....................can't wait to watch her lose. :mad:

This incident didn't cause you to wan't Serena to lose. YOU WERE ALREADY A FUCKING HATER, SO WHO CARES?:lol:

Stamp Paid
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Serena acted horrible. She was whiny, pouty, and scowling the whole match because a young newcomer just happened to try and make her work for her win. The bared teeth scream across the net at Peer was bad enough, but the nasty comments after the match to a teenager that was simply trying to win, was terrible. Serena is the BITCH.....................can't wait to watch her lose. :mad:

:confused: Pure example of making something what you want it to be..... :unsure:

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Wow Serena really is the main topic on GM this is the fifth thread already.
You go girl :lol:.

Serena is Tennis :lol:

G_Slammed
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:50 PM
But for the Serena fans denying this even happened, think again. She very clearly said it. Again, I don't give a rats ass either way, but to say it didn't happen is to be delusional.


Did you HEAR her say it? Did you hear her voice come out of her mouth with the word bitch???

No you didn't, so take your ass on with, 'she very clearly said it.'

creepy stalker
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Well then I suggest you not go to the net when you play tennis or you're gonna be getting angry a lot.

:wavey:
we are talking about a competitive match where both players pumped their fists like there's no tomorrow.

Rocketta
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:53 PM
I actually fell off the couch when she asked her if she hit her.....that really bothered her...I wonder if she thought the girl was aiming to high or something??

and someone bringing up Richard and Capriati....oh please like this is anyway similar to Jennifer cussing out BJK in practice....don't bring Richard or Jennifer up in this matter as they have nothing to do with it.

Angel_Mars
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:53 PM
This incident didn't cause you to wan't Serena to lose. YOU WERE ALREADY A FUCKING HATER, SO WHO CARES?:lol:

I was already a strong "disliker" of Serena Williams BEFORE this match because of her horrible attitude, and bully tactics on the court. Now, she has made me a "hater of Serena Williams"......... yep.

starr
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:54 PM
Of course you didn't see Shahar's glaring fist pumps at Serena, because you didn't see the whole match and you seem to see what you want to see.:lol:

Again, you are being silly. I asked the question of people who did see the whole match, and no one could say what had made Serena so mad during the match.

If there was something, just say what it was. All you do is attack someone who says, I didn't see anything that Peer did to make Serena so pissed off.

If there was a time that Peer stood at the net shaking her fist and glaring and yelling at Serena, just please describe the incident. :rolleyes:

Just_lindsay
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:55 PM
I think Peer mishit the ball during the point being discussed. She could have hit the ball right up the line and won the point, so I doubt she did it on purpose.

I also doubt Serena feels any ill will towards Peer, and I'm sure Peer is simply thrilled that she put up such a good fight. Both players have a lot to look forward to!

Rocketta
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:55 PM
Peer was fist pumping just as much as Serena. some of you must really have nothing better to do if you're just going to assume serena said something by saying you know she lipped it or was thinking it. she didn't say it. you could hear what she said at the match also, and it was something like were you trying to hit me on that point, and then she said are you sure, and ok.

No Peer was an innocent little lamb when it came to fist pumps....never giving more than a demure little pump to herself of which Serena was never the wiser. :o

ceiling_fan
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:56 PM
:cuckoo:

Rocketta
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:58 PM
Again, you are being silly. I asked the question of people who did see the whole match, and no one could say what had made Serena so mad during the match.

If there was something, just say what it was. All you do is attack someone who says, I didn't see anything that Peer did to make Serena so pissed off.

If there was a time that Peer stood at the net shaking her fist and glaring and yelling at Serena, just please describe the incident. :rolleyes:

you act like Serena walked up to the net to pump her fist at Peer...:lol: She was at the net because that's where she finished the point. Several people have said that Peer pumped her fist in Serena's direction on her winners, on netcords, and on Serena errors...what else do you need to know? Does this make it less because she wasn't at the net when she did it? :confused:

mishar
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:58 PM
Some people here are soooo sensitive. The person who said somethng about insecurities is on to something. I like good sportsmanship, but players expressing emotion on the tennis court is not a crime. It's not a tea party. It adds excitement for the crowd. I think sometimes it gets a little excessive -- Serena today, Maria at the WTA Champs final -- but it's no big deal. It's not a crime. Everyone is so damned prissy.

pav
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:58 PM
I didn't see the match or even follow it on the scoreboard ,but anything said in the heat of the match is understandable, however, if a vastly experienced Player would come to the net at shake hands time and ask "Did You try to hit Me?"or words to that effect, I find that very strange ,what was Serena going to do if Peer said "Yes" take a swing at Her? Very strange ,if that is what happened ,I may be strange, even mental, but I don't think I am sacred!however this may be all Scotch mist, and Manly won so the World is still all right:)

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:59 PM
No Peer was an innocent little lamb when it came to fist pumps....never giving more than a demure little pump to herself of which Serena was never the wiser. :o

Well she couldn't. Peer "idolizes" Serena. She also showed no "fear", but then again she was only a "17" year old "girl" so Serena did scare her, or something like that, at least that's what some people have said today.

(words in " " being words of the day to give Peer points and take ones away from Serena in lame posts)

harloo
Mar 27th, 2005, 11:59 PM
Again, you are being silly. I asked the question of people who did see the whole match, and no one could say what had made Serena so mad during the match.

If there was something, just say what it was. All you do is attack someone who says, I didn't see anything that Peer did to make Serena so pissed off.

If there was a time that Peer stood at the net shaking her fist and glaring and yelling at Serena, just please describe the incident. :rolleyes:


You did not see the match so you are asking for second hand information to form your opinion.

Shahar pumped her fists and looked over at Serena many times throughout the match. She yelled cmon and did the same thing Serena was doing. I have it on dvd so please stop imagining things.:rolleyes:

mishar
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:00 AM
What's funny is that, as Just Lindsay said, I doubt either players gave that much thought to it. Shahar will be jazzed that she played so well, and perhaps tickled that she got under Serena's skin, but I doubt she'll be crying in her locker. :-)

harloo
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:00 AM
:lol: Well she couldn't. Peer "idolizes" Serena. She also showed no "fear", but then again she was only a "17" year old "girl" so Serena did scare her, or something like that, at least that's what some people have said today.

(words in " " being words of the day to give Peer points and take ones away from Serena in lame posts)

:lol: StarDuvallGrant, you are killing me!! ROTFLMAO!!!

LindsayRulez
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:01 AM
Sorry..I was refering to you..but couldn't remember your username..

can you explain what you mean?

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:02 AM
:lol:

:lol: StarDuvallGrant, you are killing me!! ROTFLMAO!!!

After a certain period, you can only laugh you know :lol:

bandabou
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:05 AM
can you explain what you mean?

Your version of how the things went on..

Scotso
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:06 AM
Did you HEAR her say it? Did you hear her voice come out of her mouth with the word bitch???

No you didn't, so take your ass on with, 'she very clearly said it.'

Out of all the people in this thread, you choose to attack me, when I said nothing wrong at all. That's just swell.

LindsayRulez
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Your version of how the things went on..

oooooooh gotcha, I couldn't remember if I had posted "my version" or if you were trying to make fun of me somehow lol

What a dramatic match for only the 3rd round!

Hulet
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:08 AM
I thought she said "butch" and not "bitch",* which of course doesn't make it less condemable but more intrigueing. :confused:

*disclaimer: I didn't watch this match. :sad: So, I am just imagining what might be said or not said and I see I am not the only one doing that.

harloo
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:08 AM
After a certain period, you can only laugh you know :lol:

:lol:

jfk
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:10 AM
You saw what you wanted. Serena wasn't "happy" even being up 5-0. What's your excuse to that now? You have another spin to explain that?



Neither Serena's or Peer's fist pumpings were out of order. They are opponents and professionals - it happens in a match for goodness sake.

Did you read my post at all? Serena being angry at 5-0 is what I am complaining about. She was getting pissed off even though she was in control of the match. That's not the behavior that is usually expected of a top player. When you are the one winning, show a little respect for the other player. Serena was just in a bad mood today for some reason.

GogoGirl
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:10 AM
Hey All,

Serena won the first five games - and never pumped her fist. She never tried to make her opponent feel bad by being down 5-0. Mary Jo mentioned when Serena saw that her opponent was giving her fits at about 5-2 - she then upped her intensity and competitive level - although - she didn't have to tell me that.

Again - Serena's opponent started pumping her fist when she won a certain point and before she had won a game. Was she trying to intimidate Serena - or was she just trying to pump herself up? Either way - at times - she looked right at Serena when she did it - and that and the fact that Serena had to act fast to close out the first set 6-3 made her more pumped. It really is that simple.

I don't buy this - lets give the youngster a break because she wasn't a threat to win the point/game/match. She was a threat because she was trying to win - and Serena finally realized it at 5-3. And calling Serena a bully is just asinine. Whom was trying to bully whom at first?

Age is just a number - and again at 5-0 - Serena's opponent was fist pumping - so does that translate to mean that even though she was down 5-0 - she wasn't afraid of the bully across the net? Maria is seventeen - and we know that she's done her fair share of fist pumping. No harm - no foul. If it pumps one up - more power to 'em.

I think Serena summed it up best in her post match interview by stating that during the entire match - she was off of her game because of her opponent's style of play.

"WAY TO GO - SERENA" "COME ON VENUS - WIN THE WHOLE DA@N THING"

LindsayRocks89
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:11 AM
this thread is just hilarious

StarDuvallGrant
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:14 AM
Did you read my post at all? Serena being angry at 5-0 is what I am complaining about. She was getting pissed off even though she was in control of the match. That's not the behavior that is usually expected of a top player. When you are the one winning, show a little respect for the other player. Serena was just in a bad mood today for some reason.



Serena being upset at 5-0 doesn't go to show she was upset or amazed that Peer was hanging on. Serena had no reason to be even thinking of Peer as much as herself being up at that margin and doing what Peer couldn't do - hold serve, break, winners, etc. So it goes to disprove that Peer was the cause of Serena's anger from the beginning of the match all the way to being up 5-0.

Serena can have any attitude, be upset, be happy at what she wants. It's her feelings, you can't control them and words like "top player" can't control emotions and thoughts. You show your respect to your opponent and yourself not by "being nice" and just accepting play as is, but expecting the most out of yourself no matter what. If Serena had taken things lightly and just been happy being on the court with the idea of "being a top player" that would have been the biggest disrespect to Peer period.

deja_entendu
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:18 AM
OMG some people are so :retard:

Let's be realistic. 1) people curse. 2) people curse all the time. 3) you curse all the time. 4) athletes curse all the time.

Serena, I'm sure said "bitch". SO WHAT. She didn't say it to her face, she said it about her, to herself. Which is fine. How many times have you lost a point and said "fuck" or anything like that?? For a lot of us, it happens all the time. Mumbling an expletive to one's self during athletic competition happens all day every day. So that part is no big deal, end of story.

Peer was fist-pumping, but not as obnoxiously as Serena. This was rude on Serena's part, screaming at the top of her lungs and glaring and pumping her fists at Peer. But for better or worse that's life, and within the rules, so my suggestion is DEAL WITH IT. I'm sure Peer didn't give a fuck how many times Serena pumped her fists.

Okay, about Peer's shot. She hit it at Serena. But into the net. No big deal... Serena was PRESSED against the net. She was cutting off the angle so Peer couldn't go cross court. It was either down the line or at Serena. Serena was an IDIOT for making a big deal out of this. It's your job to get your fat ass out of the way if the tennis ball is coming at you, not your opponents.

The worst thing though was the handshake. Serena straight-up tried to intimidate this girl. It was sad. Her body language was dominating, she had a grip on Peer's hand (Peer tried to let go but Serena wouldn't let her), and she asked her if she tried to hit her on purpose. Almost suggesting, "or else...". Peer said no, but Serena asked her if she was "sure", as though Peer was going to change her mind??? I don't know about you but when someone says something like that to me ('are you sure,' after i defend myself from something) they are accusing me of lying in my eyes. Serena accused the girl of lying!! AND PEER TOOK IT! What a weak girl, she flat-out trembled and looked like a deer in headlights when Serena got up front with her. I'm not beat for shit like that and I hope that any one of my favorites would have said "bitch get outta my face".

Overall I think it was Serena acting immature, period. It happens all the time, everyone has moments of immaturity, but the ALARMING thing is that Serena was doing this to a 17 year old girl. That is shameful.

Yeesh.

LindsayRocks89
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:21 AM
OMG some people are so :retard:

Let's be realistic. 1) people curse. 2) people curse all the time. 3) you curse all the time. 4) athletes curse all the time.

Serena, I'm sure said "bitch". SO WHAT. She didn't say it to her face, she said it about her, to herself. Which is fine. How many times have you lost a point and said "fuck" or anything like that?? For a lot of us, it happens all the time. Mumbling an expletive to one's self during athletic competition happens all day every day. So that part is no big deal, end of story.

Peer was fist-pumping, but not as obnoxiously as Serena. This was rude on Serena's part, screaming at the top of her lungs and glaring and pumping her fists at Peer. But for better or worse that's life, and within the rules, so my suggestion is DEAL WITH IT. I'm sure Peer didn't give a fuck how many times Serena pumped her fists.

Okay, about Peer's shot. She hit it at Serena. But into the net. No big deal... Serena was PRESSED against the net. She was cutting off the angle so Peer couldn't go cross court. It was either down the line or at Serena. Serena was an IDIOT for making a big deal out of this. It's your job to get your fat ass out of the way if the tennis ball is coming at you, not your opponents.

The worst thing though was the handshake. Serena straight-up tried to intimidate this girl. It was sad. Her body language was dominating, she had a grip on Peer's hand (Peer tried to let go but Serena wouldn't let her), and she asked her if she tried to hit her on purpose. Almost suggesting, "or else...". Peer said no, but Serena asked her if she was "sure", as though Peer was going to change her mind??? I don't know about you but when someone says something like that to me ('are you sure,' after i defend myself from something) they are accusing me of lying in my eyes. Serena accused the girl of lying!! AND PEER TOOK IT! What a weak girl, she flat-out trembled and looked like a deer in headlights when Serena got up front with her. I'm not beat for shit like that and I hope that any one of my favorites would have said "bitch get outta my face".

Overall I think it was Serena acting immature, period. It happens all the time, everyone has moments of immaturity, but the ALARMING thing is that Serena was doing this to a 17 year old girl. That is shameful.

Yeesh.

hmm i disagree with everything i said and was gonna bad rep you but i accidentially didn't click disagree so you got a good rep :o

CC
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:22 AM
I got frustrated with Peer's style of play and I was just watching.

starr
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:29 AM
You did not see the match so you are asking for second hand information to form your opinion.

Shahar pumped her fists and looked over at Serena many times throughout the match. She yelled cmon and did the same thing Serena was doing. I have it on dvd so please stop imagining things.:rolleyes:

So you are saying if I get a recording of the match, I will see Peer standing at the net yelling across it and pumping her fist at Serena? Are you sure?

I'd just like someone who doesn't defend every little thing Serena does to confirm that becuase when I earlier asked the question, no one else said that.

Again, I saw PART of the match and I wondered what pissed off Serena so much. Everyone else has said only that it was a close match and not that Peer did anyting in particular to piss off Serena.

bandabou
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Please deja entendu.....get a grip.

starr
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:33 AM
Hey All,


I don't buy this - lets give the youngster a break because she wasn't a threat to win the point/game/match. She was a threat because she was trying to win - and Serena finally realized it at 5-3.

Aren't all of Serena's opponent's "trying to win?" Aren't all tennis players trying to win?

starr
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Please deja entendu.....get a grip.

You mean like the grip Serena had on Peer's hand at the net? :lol:

bandabou
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:40 AM
:lol: funny star...

tenn_ace
Mar 28th, 2005, 12:40 AM
It's a fact that S.Willaims has an anger management issue... It's one thing to scream c'mon after each point and another to do it at the net, in the face of your opponent with the face as if a gun is the only thing is missing from the picture. It's not only unsportsmanlike (any junior would have gotten a code violation right away), but totally trashy. No wonder no opponent wants to smile back to her when handshaking....

Geisha
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:02 AM
Did no one hear her asking her at the net Are you sure you didn't try to hit me on that shot? and peer looked scared and shook her head no. What kind of trash is that asking that to a 17 year old and believe me you could read serena's lips after the shot saying B*tch.

Maybe she said BLITCH. I mean, did you hear Serena say it, or did you hear Serena mouth it? I think you guys need to stop being so hypocritical. Martina Hingis called Mauresmo a "half man". When Serena was injured at the YEC, Maria fell down to the ground like she had to work so hard to win. There have been many times where this has happened. Just get over it. All of you guys need lives.

Paialii
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:07 AM
I just wanted to post with a small amount of obvious information:


1) In tennis, hitting right at your opponent is 100% legal. Sometimes it's the smartest play, whether your opponent is at the baseline or at the net. Again, it's legal. Being a Williams fan, I don't think she has any reason to complain about it, she's only making herself look bad.

2) Trash-talking is nothing new in sports, and it's not as if Serena called Peer a bitch to her face. So what, she muttered it to herself. Players mutter curse words and whatnot to themselves all the time. People replace "girl" with "bitch" when talking casually all the time. Not a big deal.

This shouldn't be a huge ordeal -- whether it's concerning Serena Williams or not.

bandabou
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:12 AM
It's a fact that S.Willaims has an anger management issue... It's one thing to scream c'mon after each point and another to do it at the net, in the face of your opponent with the face as if a gun is the only thing is missing from the picture. It's not only unsportsmanlike (any junior would have gotten a code violation right away), but totally trashy. No wonder no opponent wants to smile back to her when handshaking....

Hmmm...who would be in a smiling mood after a loss anyways? ;)

VeeReeDavJCap81
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Come on now, we know Serena is a bitch on court. But who cares??? That's part of the reason why she's so successful. She doesn't give a damn who's on the other side of the net. She is the bull and they are just a red flag in her eyes, until "game set match".

RVD
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Calling Peer a B*tch. Accusing her of trying to hit her. Peer is just a kid it's not her fault. Serena should remember how it was for her when she tried to hit Sanchez at the French Open back in 1998 now that was really trying to hit her opponent. The way Peer was stretched out it was probably the only way she could go. Serena is classless and disrespectful. She can be as nasty as the crowd in Indian Wells was to her.Hey, here's an idea selesfan1...
Why don't you go tell Serena how much you hate her and how you fabricate things to stir shit up. I'm sure she'd appreciate your paying so much attention to her every movement. All the way down to reading her lips, in fact.
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/kickbut.gif ...sigh...What a fool. :rolleyes:

Paneru
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:46 AM
Once again, this board of all boards having
the audasity to talk about class!

Talk about the pot
callling the kettle black!

It's a sport with all types of competitors
that are found right here on this board
and around the world personality wise!

Don't like it, then
take your "moral" BS on!

VeeReeDavJCap81
Mar 28th, 2005, 01:53 AM
I didn't see the match (my stupid pos VCR didn't record) but if Serena did call her a bitch I say more power to Rena. These players forget who the queen is sometimes. :D

faste5683
Mar 28th, 2005, 02:08 AM
1) In tennis, hitting right at your opponent is 100% legal. Sometimes it's the smartest play, whether your opponent is at the baseline or at the net. Again, it's legal. Being a Williams fan, I don't think she has any reason to complain about it, she's only making herself look bad.


End of discussion. :worship:

:wavey:

Lemonskin.
Mar 28th, 2005, 02:29 AM
:aparty: :shrug:

The
Mar 28th, 2005, 02:43 AM
I just wanted to post with a small amount of obvious information:


1) In tennis, hitting right at your opponent is 100% legal. Sometimes it's the smartest play, whether your opponent is at the baseline or at the net. Again, it's legal. Being a Williams fan, I don't think she has any reason to complain about it, she's only making herself look bad.

2) Trash-talking is nothing new in sports, and it's not as if Serena called Peer a bitch to her face. So what, she muttered it to herself. Players mutter curse words and whatnot to themselves all the time. People replace "girl" with "bitch" when talking casually all the time. Not a big deal.

This shouldn't be a huge ordeal -- whether it's concerning Serena Williams or not.


Thank you for this post.

alfonsojose
Mar 28th, 2005, 02:56 AM
Venus, slap little sis, please :o

VeraNuVirgosFan
Mar 28th, 2005, 03:47 AM
LOL When the shook hands, Serena said (loud and clear) Did you try to hit me on that one shot? (Shahar: No.) Serena: Are you sure? (Shahar: Yeah.) Serena: ok. Nice match.

And when they asked her afterward what she said to her at net, she said "oh i just told her good job!" smiling like a devil lol too funny Serena!!!
Thank you for the quotes!

Very interesting!