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wimbledonwinner
Mar 26th, 2005, 09:59 AM
This is gonna sound silly, but is there any difference between green clay that is used in Charleston and Amelia Island and that of the red clay used mostly elsewhere?

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Chunchun
Mar 26th, 2005, 10:02 AM
green clay is only in USA?! :p:rolls:

ceiling_fan
Mar 26th, 2005, 10:05 AM
yep, red clay is made of crushed bricks and rubber and other materials, while green clay is made of crushed stones

SpikeyAidanm
Mar 26th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Quote from Marlene Weingartner (2001):

"It`s because on green clay it is a little bit faster than
red clay, and I was thinking that I have to be very
patient, but you also have to be aggressive, I think,
because it`s a faster court than a red clay court,
so..."

spiceboy
Mar 26th, 2005, 10:26 AM
green clay is only in USA?! :p:rolls:

No, UK also has green clay

Jounieh $75K challenger is also played on green clay (at Lebanon)

Steffica Greles
Mar 26th, 2005, 10:29 AM
Green clay is the slowest surface, except for red clay.

From what I can make out, having never played on the surface, the ball bounces ever so slightly faster and more notably, lower than on red clay.

But it hasn't stopped red clay specialists - Evert, Sabatini, Martinez - dominating those tournaments over the years. It's still slidey and slow.

Bumsby
Mar 26th, 2005, 11:00 AM
Green Clay is more slippery than Red Clay. Some players (eg., Farina Elia) play with grass shoes on Green Clay.

Darop.
Mar 26th, 2005, 11:37 AM
I've tried playing on green clay, and it's weird :confused:

When it's humid its impossible to slide, yet when its dry its like playing on grass...

Orion
Mar 26th, 2005, 11:44 AM
It's got a very different feel when you play on it, and it's hard to describe. I've only played twice on green clay, and it changes based on weather conditions. Intelligent players who gauge all playing conditions succeed on it.

vogus
Mar 26th, 2005, 01:16 PM
green clay is a great surface to play tennis on, very soft on the body, slower than most hardcourts but faster than most red clay courts. Also it is not as tricky to move on as red clay, you don't need to be as good at sliding.

Shonami Slam
Mar 26th, 2005, 03:03 PM
thanks! intresting stuff said here.

mishar
Mar 26th, 2005, 03:11 PM
I've played a lot on both surfaces. The ball bounces lower on green clay, it skids sometimes, a good slice can be very effective, especially when the court is dry. It plays faster than the red clay.

Fantastic
Mar 26th, 2005, 03:46 PM
It explains why Lindsay Davenport does particularly well on green clay.

alexusjonesfan
Mar 26th, 2005, 03:52 PM
Haven't there been a lot of ankle injuries on hartru? I don't remember when it was, but I remember reading about that here.

Apparently it has a truer bounce than red clay and all-around closer to hard courts.

mishar
Mar 26th, 2005, 04:01 PM
I've heard about a lot of ankle injuries on rebound ace -- I don't remember a lot on hartru.

In my experience red clay has a more reliable bounce -- the bounce on green clay is less predictable. It doesn't have as much bounce as the red clay.

alexusjonesfan
Mar 26th, 2005, 05:15 PM
I've heard about a lot of ankle injuries on rebound ace -- I don't remember a lot on hartru.

In my experience red clay has a more reliable bounce -- the bounce on green clay is less predictable. It doesn't have as much bounce as the red clay.

I guess I was wrong on both counts :o

Seriously though, I do remember reading something about Har-tru causing injuries...guess I'll have to find it :p

mboyle
Mar 26th, 2005, 05:20 PM
I play on green clay all the time. I've played on red only once. What people have said, however, has been the story, basically.

1. The ball bounces much lower on Green clay.
2. The bounce is far more unpredictable (especially off the lines.)
3. Green clay is faster than Red Clay, though still not as fast as the slower hardcourts like Ace.
4. Sliding on Green Clay is very very hard.
5. Slices just downright die on the stuff. Soooooooo annoying for me....

rightous
Mar 26th, 2005, 05:30 PM
Mboyle said everything I was going to say, I personally love both but green clay takes pace alot more but man try to slide on the stuff and your legs will just die.

Shonami Slam
Mar 26th, 2005, 05:55 PM
this all brought a question about something i don't know much about - sliding.
what does it actually mean (yeah, you slide - but why should you slide in the first place, and what does it give you ) any nice responce will be hugely thanked!

jonny84
Mar 26th, 2005, 06:17 PM
:lol: Didn't realise there was a technical difference! I just thought that it was dyed with green dye! :lol:

baleineau
Mar 26th, 2005, 06:33 PM
sliding allows you to be more on-balance when playing your shot, and enables you to recover your position quicker. green clay is a quicker surface than red clay and the bounce is lower, although topspin shots kick up high. Essentially though, it is still closer to red clay as a surface than it is to a hard court.

the surface is more powdery rather than sandy/gritty, which is why it is easier to slide on the red stuff.

Darop.
Mar 26th, 2005, 06:51 PM
this all brought a question about something i don't know much about - sliding.
what does it actually mean (yeah, you slide - but why should you slide in the first place, and what does it give you ) any nice responce will be hugely thanked!

Sliding basically allowd you to recover position more easily after having hit your shot.

Infact, if you hit a running shot without sliding, you will have to hit the ball, and since you still have your running momentum you will have to keep on running for about another half meter, stop, and return to the center of the court.

Instead, when you slide, its as if you stop running, yet keep on moving, and hit the ball at the same time.

I hope you can understand that :o

JenFan75
Mar 26th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Green clay is prettier.

Davenselesport
Mar 27th, 2005, 09:22 PM
Well I play on green clay about 2-3 times a week and it's my favorite (I hope to have a green clay court of my own when I get older!)

If its maintained well its a little slippery and the ball might even skid sometimes, but topspin really works well with green clay.

It hurts when you fall on it, because you get rocks stuck in your hands...