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bandabou
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:01 PM
Enna's already being considered someone's 3rd greatest player despite the fact she's still missing the greatest title of them all and has lost the most important match of her life.

What do u guys think? will she ever reach a final again at wimbledon, let alone win it?

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Justine has an excellent chance. She's won 3 majors and the Olympics.
And she's still very young.
Especially if she's in one half, and Maria and Serena are in the other.

Asmus
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:11 PM
OK, first of all, the majors are about equal. Henin-Hardenne managed to win three of the four biggest matches of her life, which ain't bad. In fact I bet Justine herself probably preferred to win Roland Garros.

I can definitely see her in another final, especially as Serena and Venus are still not as dominant as they were in 2003. Justine gained a lot of power especially on her serve between her last Wimbledon and her illness, so I would give her a good shot to either win or at least make another Wimbledon final.

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Justine has an excellent chance. She's won 3 majors and the Olympics.
And she's still very young.
Especially if she's in one half, and Maria and Serena are in the other.

What makes you think Maria would beat Justine on grass?

bandabou
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:14 PM
It ain't me who said it.....wimbledon final is the greatest of match of one's life......in that token, one can say that graf lost the last important match of her career.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:15 PM
What makes you think Maria would beat Justine on grass?I think Justine can beat anyone, anywhere.
But Maria gave up 6 games in her last 3 sets at Wimbledon, against 2 former champs.
So it's good to avoid her.

LeRoy.
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Bait thread :yawn:

Someone's obsessed with someone's obsession with Justine Henin and this someone wishes that the other someone was rather obsessed with Serena William.:)

lucashg
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:19 PM
[QUOTE=Asmus]OK, first of all, the majors are about equal. Henin-Hardenne managed to win three of the four biggest matches of her life, which ain't bad. In fact I bet Justine herself probably preferred to win Roland Garros. QUOTE]

I agree, so it makes no sense that she lost the most important match of her life, she won it.

I don't know why you, bandabou, have to post such threads where you obviously want to provoke Justine fans. It's basically another "Will Enna ever match Serena in greatness?" with different words. Everyone knows Serena does well at Wimbledon, though she lost one "most important" match of her life there as well. :tape:

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:19 PM
I think Justine can beat anyone, anywhere.
But Maria gave up 6 games in her last 3 sets at Wimbledon, against 2 former champs.
So it's good to avoid her.

That stat means very little when you think about how Serena was playing back then.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Maria was serving to Serena 6-2, 5-4 at the AO.
She was serving 6-1, 5-4 at Wimbledon.

lucashg
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:21 PM
What makes you think Maria would beat Justine on grass?

I think it's easier for Justine to beat Maria than Serena on grass. I guess. So Maria could take care of Serena first, then lose to Justine in the final. Justine beating Mauresmo, Davenport or Clijsters in the other semifinal, that would be a great tournament! :p

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Maria was serving to Serena 6-2, 5-4 at the AO.
She was serving 6-1, 5-4 at Wimbledon.

So why was she able to win one match and not the other??

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:23 PM
So why was she able to win one match and not the other??That's tennis. One or two points can mean 2 sets, or 1 set all.

bandabou
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:24 PM
[QUOTE=Asmus]OK, first of all, the majors are about equal. Henin-Hardenne managed to win three of the four biggest matches of her life, which ain't bad. In fact I bet Justine herself probably preferred to win Roland Garros. QUOTE]

I agree, so it makes no sense that she lost the most important match of her life, she won it.

I don't know why you, bandabou, have to post such threads where you obviously want to provoke Justine fans. It's basically another "Will Enna ever match Serena in greatness?" with different words. Everyone knows Serena does well at Wimbledon, though she lost one "most important" match of her life there as well. :tape:

Indeed....thing is that Serena already had two holy titles, while enna didn't have and still doesn't have one....

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Conchita has one of those also.

lucashg
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:25 PM
So why was she able to win one match and not the other??

Because Serena was better, what you wanted to hear, eh? Maria sure is a fighter but she can get VERY anxious. I unfortunetaly didn't watch the match, but it seems it happened because of the former, since it seems that Serena hit winners in those match points Maria had. :eek: :worship:

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:26 PM
That's tennis. One or two points can mean 2 sets, or 1 set all.

So what's your point?

You also forget that Serena should have been up 5-3 in the second set, but had one of Maria's winners that was shown to be out called good.

LeRoy.
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Difference between the Wimbledon and Aus Open matches between Sharapova and Serena was Maria choked in one and didin't choke in the other. :)

Nemesis
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Stop calling her Enna. It doesn't make sense. In French it even sounds different :rolleyes:

How can we tell she can make it. In form, she was the 3rd best player in july 2003. Now it's 2005, with a whole batch of players with new confidence, other players that are slumping now and a new Wimby champ against which she even has played a pro match :shrug: Just see if she can pick up her old form or not. If yes, she can definately make it. If it isn't because she's better than Maria on grass, then it's because Venus, Serena and Maria have a good chance to be in the same side of the draw this year ...

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Because Serena was better, what you wanted to hear, eh? Maria sure is a fighter but she can get VERY anxious. I unfortunetaly didn't watch the match, but it seems it happened because of the former, since it seems that Serena hit winners in those match points Maria had. :eek: :worship:

Yes, Serena performed alot better than she did at Wimbledon 2004 in the final. She had no nerves at the AO whereas she was tight from the get-go at Wimbledon.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:27 PM
So what's your point?

You also forget that Serena should have been up 5-3 in the second set, but had one of Maria's winners that was shown to be out called good.My point is, Maria is a good player. She's won 19 of her last 21.
And she's 17. That's pretty good for a kid who was about #200 two years ago.

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:30 PM
My point is, Maria is a good player. She's won 19 of her last 21.
And she's 17. That's pretty good for a kid who was about #200 two years ago.

This has nothing to do with the topic.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:31 PM
Yes it does. The draw matters. And Justine will have a better chance to win Wimbledon if the last 2 winners are in the other half.

Joana
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:32 PM
Last time I checked "Enna" still hasn't retired. And she's only 22. So, given she could return to her early 2004 form, I don't see why she couldn't do it at one point of her career.
Oh, and I believe "Enna" has won what was to her the most important match of her life.

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:33 PM
Yes it does. The draw matters. And Justine will have a better chance to win Wimbledon if the last 2 winners are in the other half.

You still never said why you think Maria would beat Justine on grass.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:34 PM
I don't know who would win on grass.
I'd rather face Maria on wet red clay.

bandabou
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Last time I checked "Enna" still hasn't retired. And she's only 22. So, given she could return to her early 2004 form, I don't see why she couldn't do it at one point of her career.
Oh, and I believe "Enna" has won what was to her the most important match of her life.

which was?

LeRoy.
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:37 PM
You still never said why you think Maria would beat Justine on grass.

He said she would have a BETTER CHANCE if she had to play only Serena or Maria and not both of them to win the tournament. Not my opinion but don't see how he was saying Maria would beat Justine on grass in the message that you quoted.

Joana
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:37 PM
which was?

Take a guess.

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:37 PM
which was?

2003 FO semi vs Serena. :p

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:38 PM
He said she would have a BETTER CHANCE if she had to play only Serena or Maria and not both of them to win the tournament. Not my opinion but don't see how he was saying Maria would beat Justine on grass in the message that you quoted.

Read his first post and then mind your business.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:38 PM
He said she would have a BETTER CHANCE if she had to play only Serena or Maria and not both of them to win the tournament. Not my opinion but don't see how he was saying Maria would beat Justine on grass in the message that you quoted.She, not he :wavey:

lucashg
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:39 PM
Stop calling her Enna. It doesn't make sense. In French it even sounds different :rolleyes:

I agree. It just looks like EE-NAH (as Se-REENA)? ... Or Ehn-nah, in my language, ;P

How can we tell she can make it. In form, she was the 3rd best player in july 2003. Now it's 2005, with a whole batch of players with new confidence, other players that are slumping now and a new Wimby champ against which she even has played a pro match :shrug: Just see if she can pick up her old form or not. If yes, she can definately make it. If it isn't because she's better than Maria on grass, then it's because Venus, Serena and Maria have a good chance to be in the same side of the draw this year ...

Let's hope for it and of course, that she can regain her top-form until then. I'm sure she'll.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:40 PM
Read his first post and then mind your business.It's she.
And my first post is very positive towards Justine.
Like all the other ones.

LeRoy.
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:40 PM
Read his first post and then mind your business.

I did and still don't see how she was saying ANYTHING about Maria beating Justine.:)

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:43 PM
I did and still don't see how she was saying ANYTHING about Maria beating Justine.:)I didn't.

Knizzle
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:43 PM
It's she.
And my first post is very positive towards Justine.
Like all the other ones.

Why would you think Justine should "avoid" Maria if you don't think Maria would beat her?? There are more players that could beat Justine, but you seem to single out Maria and Serena for some reason.

LeRoy.
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:44 PM
I didn't.

Yeah some folks just like to put words in other people' mouth. You should just know how to shut them up :)

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Yeah some folks just like to put words in other people' mouth. You should just know how to shut them up :)I know. I said a favorable draw is a good thing.
But Justine can play on any surface.
It's Maria who hasn't proven that yet.

jonny84
Mar 25th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Justine can and probably will win Wimbledon - she's got a good eight years of competetive tennis and often does well there. With an injury-free and good form (and with a favourable draw) I'm sure she can do it. She has come close before and can do it again.

Tati & Dani
Mar 25th, 2005, 07:32 PM
justine gonne win wimbledon in the future, i don't think this year

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 25th, 2005, 07:56 PM
Of the Belgians, Henin-Hardenne has the best game to win Wimbledon. She has to do a couple of things though. 1.) Serve well. Justine has won the AO with a serve percentage in the 40s. She has to be somewhere in the 60s to win Wimbledon. 2.) Be agressive. She has good volleys. She has to come in more. She can mix it up and be agressive as well. Use a short slice to make the opponent come to net and then pass the opponent. Serve and volley some. Hit as flat of a backhand as she can.
3.) Return serve well. Be agressive from the beginning.
Henin will win Wimbledon someday. I doubt Clijsters will because of her grip. She's late on a lot of forehands on grass. A lot of bad bounces and a lot of lowballs are a pain for her with that grip. She has to put so much spin on the ball just to get it over the net. On her backhand it's worse because of her wrist.

deja_entendu
Mar 25th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Justine has already done well at Wimbledon before she became really damn strong and aggressive. Certainly, the Justine Henin of early '04 would sweep through the Wimbledon field this year... let's hope she regains that form!

bandabou
Mar 25th, 2005, 08:55 PM
So IF she is gonna win it, she's gonna need some help to do it....interesting.

Joana
Mar 25th, 2005, 08:57 PM
So IF she is gonna win it, she's gonna need some help to do it....interesting.

No, she's just going to show up there and they'll hand her the trophey.

goldenlox
Mar 25th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Who knows? Justine won 3 out of 4 majors, then had health issues.
It's possible she comes back better than ever.
You never know.