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Jakeev
Feb 28th, 2005, 08:37 PM
I'm a little pissed off that Venus played and lost in a match in which she was clearly injured. Knowing she had stomach problems, for no reason should she have wasted airfair to Dubai and then promptly lost her first match.

But Venus is not the only one. Several players have done this.

I can never understand what makes players go out into the tennis court and compete with serious injuries.

It doesn't make sense to me. It makes me wonder how much pressure tennis players are given to make sure they keep their commitments, injured or not.

Get better Venus, but damn don't go to Miami if this stomach problem hasn't completely healed.

jimbo mack
Feb 28th, 2005, 08:40 PM
there are some injuries that you can play with

venus must have thought even with her injury that she was fit enough to compete otherwise she would have retired during the match

Andrew.
Feb 28th, 2005, 08:43 PM
I didn't think the stomach was the problem today...

DelMonte
Feb 28th, 2005, 08:46 PM
Could a be a variety of things:

1) bad medical advice

2) the player thinks he/she can play with/through the injury

3) player thinks injury is not so bad

4) player is afraid that will get criticized for pulling out of tournament, faking etc

5) stupidity

I think in this situation players should be 'selfish' (really, it's just being smart) and do whatever is necessary to put their health first. End of story.

alexusjonesfan
Feb 28th, 2005, 08:56 PM
uhh...appearance fees. :shrug: You see things like this on the men's tour all the time.

vogus
Feb 28th, 2005, 08:59 PM
You people are so naive it kills me sometimes.

You can bet that Venus received an appearance fee of 100-200 thousand dollars for showing up.

tennisjunky
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:03 PM
200k just for showing up, count me in!!

DelMonte
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:07 PM
You people are so naive it kills me sometimes.

You can bet that Venus received an appearance fee of 100-200 thousand dollars for showing up.

if venus risked aggravating an injury that took her out for 6 months for $100,000 or $200,000 then she is very stupid indeed.

playing to get bonuses ala marat safin is one thing but playing for those bonusing and risking your career at the same time is a different matter alltogether...it's crazy!

Sanneriet
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:08 PM
You people are so naive it kills me sometimes.

You can bet that Venus received an appearance fee of 100-200 thousand dollars for showing up.

A highly motivating factor, I'm sure. I wonder if they will pay thou. I don't remember the details very well, but it seems to me they did not pay Federer one year because they thought he tanked. I am not suggesting Venus tanked, but that they might consider her statement that she was injured in Antwerp grounds enough to withhold payment.

Brooks.
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:27 PM
venus gets critized left and right for every little thing she does........had she retired half of this board would be saying....look at her not letting silvia beat her and not giving her credit.....maybe some of you haters could learn to shut your mouths when you say that she always quits if she is losing.......she didnt quit today now did she

icequeen
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:49 PM
You people are so naive it kills me sometimes.

You can bet that Venus received an appearance fee of 100-200 thousand dollars for showing up.

It has been reporte $650,000.00

Julia1968
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:00 PM
I'm a little pissed off that Venus played and lost in a match in which she was clearly injured. Knowing she had stomach problems, for no reason should she have wasted airfair to Dubai and then promptly lost her first match.

But Venus is not the only one. Several players have done this.

I can never understand what makes players go out into the tennis court and compete with serious injuries.

It doesn't make sense to me. It makes me wonder how much pressure tennis players are given to make sure they keep their commitments, injured or not.

Get better Venus, but damn don't go to Miami if this stomach problem hasn't completely healed.

Well, she's injured in just about every match she loses. Sometimes no one knows about the injury until her post-match press conferences. However, I'll give her a break because she is the more regal of the two.

She's paid her dues ten fold. If she wants to be "injured", then let her.

Stamp Paid
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:26 PM
Venus. :sad:

Jakeev
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:33 PM
venus gets critized left and right for every little thing she does........had she retired half of this board would be saying....look at her not letting silvia beat her and not giving her credit.....maybe some of you haters could learn to shut your mouths when you say that she always quits if she is losing.......she didnt quit today now did she

It's not about hating Venus for crying out loud. It's about what prompts a player, such as Venus, to risk injury when she has not business being out on court.

Kabezya
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:37 PM
Venus neither wins or loses in this situation frankly. I wish she didn't play with the injury but at the same time I understand some of the why's. Obligation perhaps, really wanting to be there :confused: Get well Venus and come back strong. I definitely agree with VeeReeFan.

vogus
Feb 28th, 2005, 11:05 PM
It has been reporte $650,000.00



i think the only player who would command a sum like that is Agassi.

Serena would have been the highest paid of the women.

Followed by Venus, Davey and a couple others.

New
Feb 28th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Maybe they thought their injury was not that serious and since they are committed, they decided to still play i guess...

Black Mamba.
Feb 28th, 2005, 11:29 PM
It seems like everytime she goes out and plays with an injury she seems to make it worse. I hope it isn't the case this time.

Volcana
Mar 1st, 2005, 01:02 AM
Players compete when injured in all sports, amateur and professional. I spent all last summer playing Ultimate Frisbee on pulled hamstrings because I couldn't make myself stay off the field. It's a kind of madness. Why did Kim Clijsters play injured for so long last year? Why did Venus and Serena play the 2002 Wimbledon final?

Isiah Thomas sprained an ankle so badly against the Knicks, he literally could not RUN. And he sored 25 points in the fourth quarter.



When Picaboo Street tore up her knee, she was a long time recuperating. The first time she was allowed back on skis, her coach made her CARRY him, so she couldn't ski fast. The first time she was allowed to ski unrestricted, she was supposed to go no faster than her coach. Sixty seconds into the run, she skied up next to her coach and said"I'm going to find my friend"

And blew down the hill at seventy miles per hour, leaving her coach far behind.

I always thought Street summed that up best. 'I'm going to find my friend' That something that's out there at the edge of peak performance. When you can't reach it, all you do is miss it. When you're in it .. it's your friend. It wraps itself around you, and suports you, and has faith in you, and you don't worry about BEING you, because hanging out with your friend so damn much fun!

A Buddhist monk walks up a hotdog vendor on a New York City street and says "Make me one with everything".

AnnArbor25
Mar 1st, 2005, 01:15 AM
Even so Venus should have won. I'm begining to think she is just lacking a little confidence right now.

pla
Mar 1st, 2005, 05:21 AM
A highly motivating factor, I'm sure.

This sum can be highly motivating for us ;) but I seriously doubt it means so much for Venus which is so rich that $200K is like a joke.

alexusjonesfan
Mar 1st, 2005, 05:54 AM
This sum can be highly motivating for us ;) but I seriously doubt it means so much for Venus which is so rich that $200K is like a joke.

It can't be chump change if this is the first non-slam tourney Venus and Serena have participated together in in god knows how long and so many top 30 players have shown up that Dubai has a qualie draw most slams would envy ;)

TM
Mar 1st, 2005, 06:03 AM
..because they know there are fans that come out to see them and want to show their love...Go Venus! --get healthy :D fast

Mica
Mar 1st, 2005, 06:51 AM
She's constantly in a Catch-22, in that if she doesn't play, people will talk about how she and Serena need to do more tournaments. Also, if she doesn't show up to a tournament where it was previously announced she would, she risks disappointing the many fans that bought tickets to see her.

You can only do that a few times, but we all know that whether she had legit reasons or not, Venus has had her fair share of pulling out a tournaments and leaving people disappointed. It doesn't matter that perhaps the tournament directors were the ones truly at fault, because they didn't alert the public sooner since they want to sell more tickets, the onus always seems to fall on Venus.

So that said, had she not played people would have said "Hey, wait a minute, she just played the Diamond Games and got pretty far. You can't tell me she can't show up for my tournament."

Now that she has in fact shown up for the tournament, this is the reaction that follows (whether justified or not).

It's the very situation that seems to have been born to perfectly define the phrase "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."

pla
Mar 1st, 2005, 07:01 AM
It's the very situation that seems to have been born to perfectly define the phrase "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."

So true

squash
Mar 1st, 2005, 08:35 AM
No player should play if they know that they have a serious injury. It's not nice to see a player you love playing very poorly!

I mean, I would not hit a tennis racket with blisters, why would I expect a professional play to do so.

hablo
Mar 1st, 2005, 08:44 AM
I thought she lost the match because of blisters?? :scratch:

Experimentee
Mar 1st, 2005, 11:34 AM
If she withdrew all the haters would be saying she withdraws from every tournament, she doesnt honour her committments, shes scared of playing Serena etc. She probably thought the crowd would boo Serena like in Indian Wells when she withdrew :rolleyes:

Experimentee
Mar 1st, 2005, 11:38 AM
I thought she lost the match because of blisters?? :scratch:

She also had stomach muscle problems again. She said she had it since the Antwerp final, which explains why she was serving really slowly in that match.

calabar
Mar 1st, 2005, 12:18 PM
D-I-Y-D-D-I-Y-D (Damned if You Do, Damned If You Don't)