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Sam L
Feb 27th, 2005, 06:46 AM
Firstly, let me just say that I like Amelie and really wish she wins a slam especially the French Open which is what she wants.

BUT...

There are similarities between her and Pam.

- Both reach their first slams as teenagers and it was a huge surprise.

- Both lost that slam final to a heavily favorite reigning queen of tennis in straight sets.

- After that, everyone thought they're going to have such great careers and win many slams.

- It never happened.

The difference is...

Amelie is having a far better singles career than Pam ever did, by reaching #1 etc...

But Pam had a better doubles career. And also, in Pam's days she was unlucky to have been in the same era as Evert and Navratilova. One or both were at their best in every slam. That's rare, these days. So Amelie really doesn't have that excuse.

I wish Amelie luck but it has been OVER 6 years since...

Doraemon
Feb 27th, 2005, 06:48 AM
Another similarity: Amelie is unlucky to be in the same era as Graf, Hingis, Davenpork, the Williams Hell sisters, Maria Sharapova, and the Belgian team.

hablo
Feb 27th, 2005, 06:53 AM
:yawn:

hingis-seles
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:22 AM
It's a valid question and the similarities are there. I hope she does win that Slam title. It would be a shame if she didn't.

Pamela Shriver
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:23 AM
Will Amelie Mauresmo be another Pam Shriver?

Her vowels are far too normal!

Wannabeknowitall
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:27 AM
She has more similiarities with Sabatini than anyone else. Mauresmo will finally win her slam. Pam Shriver's problem is she choked but really she didn't have the game to play with the big girls in and out. So she let Navritilova take her to the tennis hall of fame with the doubles. Mauresmo has the game to win a slam. She's going to get a slam where everyone else folds around her and she's the only one left standing. It happened to Novotna one year. I think it could happen to Mauresmo as well.

eelusive
Feb 27th, 2005, 09:34 AM
the thing is you never can predict with Amelie. Her fantastik games change by absolutely unnormal folse. Fear is the most weaked opponent.

wateva
Feb 27th, 2005, 09:38 AM
i think pam will be more remembered than amelie mauresmo...

heartBREAKeRS
Feb 27th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Williams Hell sisters. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :p ...so funny

MLF
Feb 27th, 2005, 09:41 AM
Well Amelie is a superior singles player to Pam but Pam never had such an open opportunity to win a singles slam as Amelie did in 2004. Pam never had a year where Navratilova, Austin, Evert and Mandlikova, even Graf had all been knocked out or not participated in a slam event leaving the door open for her to take the title. In the last three slams of 2004 Amelie had a golden opportunity to pick up a slam title - the big names ( i.e both Williams sisters, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters even Capriati ) were either not present, knocked out for her or rusty as fuck and she still couldn't do it.

Not saying that Amelie will never win that slam title but 2004 was a golden opportunity.

Mariangelina
Feb 27th, 2005, 10:53 AM
I'll start making parallels when Amélie starts to resemble a giraffe, or at least an okapi.

Yeah, Pam had an amazing doubles career- but then again, not everyone was lucky enough to have Martina as a partner. :p And the early part of their careers were similar, but Amélie's been a much better singles performer through the middle part of it. And I still think she'll win a Slam.

And there's only room for one Pam in the commentating box. Those extra-high ceilings aren't cheap.

Kart
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:02 AM
Every year, Amelie plays better and better.

She's still got plenty of time.

power26
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:24 AM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha



WILLIAMS DOMINATION IS BACK!!!

Gerri
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:27 AM
Amelie can't match Pam's hair either, its far too smooth and glossy.

Calimero377
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:35 AM
Firstly, let me just say that I like Amelie and really wish she wins a slam especially the French Open which is what she wants.

BUT...

There are similarities between her and Pam.

- Both reach their first slams as teenagers and it was a huge surprise.

- Both lost that slam final to a heavily favorite reigning queen of tennis in straight sets.
...


Against which "reigning queen" did Amelie lose?
:confused:

katiektc
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:46 AM
Her vowels are far too normal!

And she'll never have hair THIS good!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/770000/images/_774715_shriver300.jpg
;)

Jenny.C.Fan
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:48 AM
Amelie will a slam :)

hablo
Feb 27th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Against which "reigning queen" did Amelie lose?
:confused:

I'm thinking Hingis at the AO?? ;)

Pamela Shriver
Feb 27th, 2005, 12:41 PM
And she'll never have hair THIS good!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/770000/images/_774715_shriver300.jpg
;)

Jennifer Anniston, Nicole Kidman, Kate Moss et al will never have hair THAT good!

blumaroo
Feb 27th, 2005, 12:44 PM
I think will Amelie will win one slam. I hope it's the French Open. Maybe she'll win one at the end of her career like Novotna. She definitely deserves at least one slam.

fammmmedspin
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:07 PM
She has more similiarities with Sabatini than anyone else. Mauresmo will finally win her slam. Pam Shriver's problem is she choked but really she didn't have the game to play with the big girls in and out. So she let Navritilova take her to the tennis hall of fame with the doubles. Mauresmo has the game to win a slam. She's going to get a slam where everyone else folds around her and she's the only one left standing. It happened to Novotna one year. I think it could happen to Mauresmo as well.

Novotna had the advantage though that Natasha did the hard work on the opposition until she seemed to think another GS final was not a good idea and Nathalie got to her only final in the late stage of her career. Its a bit more crowded now and Natasha was an unique talent.

23TwentyThree23
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:18 PM
I think if Amélie has as great a career like pam shriver, she is one of the greats of the game, its nothing to be shamed of! one of them is great in doubles, the other in singles, so.

Calimero377
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:22 PM
I'm thinking Hingis at the AO?? ;)


Hingis neither "reigned" nor was she a "queen". Especially not in 1999 when The Queen was still playing ...

;)

Pengwin
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Hingis neither "reigned" nor was she a "queen". Especially not in 1999 when The Queen was still playing ...

;)


When did the Queen ever play tennis :confused:

thelittlestelf
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Well, Amelie would have to win tons of doubles titles to be put in Pam's boat.

Declan
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:42 PM
I'll start making parallels when Amélie starts to resemble a giraffe, or at least an okapi.

Yeah, Pam had an amazing doubles career- but then again, not everyone was lucky enough to have Martina as a partner. :p And the early part of their careers were similar, but Amélie's been a much better singles performer through the middle part of it. And I still think she'll win a Slam.

And there's only room for one Pam in the commentating box. Those extra-high ceilings aren't cheap.

I strongly disagree that Amelie's 'been a much better singles performer through the middle part' of their careers. They both hovered between 4 and 8 for the same amount of years, and it wasn't until last year that Amelie surpassed Pam's career high raanking of 3 -but it wasn't through stellar performances on court, rather the injuries of her peers; she still didn't reach a second Slam final, the same as Pam. And they both won several tournaments each year. I think they really are on a par, by the age of 25.

bw2082
Feb 27th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Her vowels are far too normal!

Did you hear the way she says "I love Dubai?" ;) :p

améliemomo
Feb 27th, 2005, 04:18 PM
who is pam shriver??? :lol: :tape:

amélie is not pam shriver , she is just herself she has her own tennis and carreer and concerning grand slam opportunities lets wait the rest of the year, we can expect some great things from her I think :angel: ;)

henmanhill
Feb 27th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Hingis neither "reigned" nor was she a "queen". Especially not in 1999 when The Queen was still playing ...

;) :yawn:

gourownway
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:00 PM
not unless she becomes a blind republican and starts writing uneducated pieces for ESPN. :devil:

SelesFan70
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:20 PM
Amelie isn't carrying her doubles partner to Major successes like Pam did... :o

JPrince
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:23 PM
How can you even put Mauresmo in the same class as Pam? Mauresmo is far more talented (and alot more pleasing to the eye I might add) than Pam! Just the fact that this thread was made disappoints me! :mad:

Sally Struthers
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:29 PM
How can you even put Mauresmo in the same class as Pam? ... Just the fact that this thread was made disappoints me! :mad:

You're right. Mauresmo isn't even in Pam's class. Pam has more titles and more Grand Slams and a hot Hollywood grandpa husband :kiss:

JPrince
Feb 27th, 2005, 08:31 PM
You're right. Mauresmo isn't even in Pam's class. Pam has more titles and more Grand Slams and a hot Hollywood grandpa husband :kiss:


Whatever...your'e entitled to your own opinion as am I. :)

DEETHELICK
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:54 AM
What I saw from Amelie in that final set vs Venus was very encouraging. She was really hitting the ball well and played some fantastic all court tennis backed up by BELIEF.

That has been the only thing holding her back. I think Amelie will only win one slam in her career (a la Novotna) but it will be a crowning moment in her career. Lets hope its RG for her (but this year, my support is behind Elena to take it).

wateva
Feb 28th, 2005, 12:18 PM
What I saw from Amelie in that final set vs Venus was very encouraging. She was really hitting the ball well and played some fantastic all court tennis backed up by BELIEF.

That has been the only thing holding her back. I think Amelie will only win one slam in her career (a la Novotna) but it will be a crowning moment in her career. Lets hope its RG for her (but this year, my support is behind Elena to take it).

well, hopefully she'll show some belief in the grand slams instead of the tier 2s. i think amelie isn't qualified to be compared to pam. she shld be comapred to fellow french player, natalie tauziat...

tennislover
Feb 28th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Her vowels are far too normal!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

tennislover
Feb 28th, 2005, 01:56 PM
Jennifer Anniston, Nicole Kidman, Kate Moss et al will never have hair THAT good!

of course.

tennislover
Feb 28th, 2005, 01:58 PM
Amelie isn't a tennis legend.......
Pam is a tennis legend...... :worship: :worship: :worship:

tennislover
Feb 28th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Another similarity: Amelie is unlucky to be in the same era as Graf, Hingis, Davenpork, the Williams Hell sisters, Maria Sharapova, and the Belgian team.

yes but poor Pam had to face:

1) the greatest player and athlete of all time (Navratilova)
2) The feminine version of BORG!!!!!!!!!!! (= Chris)

Linnie
Feb 28th, 2005, 02:06 PM
Every year, Amelie plays better and better.

She's still got plenty of time.
Exactly.

When she retires from tennis (which is a long way off) then ask this question.

Pamela Shriver
Feb 28th, 2005, 04:08 PM
There's only one Pamela Shriver.











Thankfully ;)

Steffica Greles
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Personally I think there is far more to analogise Mauresmo with Novotna or Sabatini.

Pam Shriver was a good player and reached no.3 in the world. But she was never a match for Chris and Martina until they began to wane in the late 80s.

Mauresmo is about where Novotna was at this stage of her career (approaching 26) in terms of career titles and occasional wins over world no1's.

Novotna had a slightly better grandslam record by 1995 than Mauresmo has at present (Jan 1995 Novotna had reached: RU Aus 91, SF French 93, Wimbledon RU 93, U.S Open SF 94), but she had not reached no.1 in the world.

Sabatini's career was practically over by Mauresmo's current age in late 1995. She had less than a few tournaments to go, having sat out most of 1996 with an injury, only to then quit on realising she lacked the motivation to reach the top 5 again.

Gabi began a lot earlier, at 14, whereas Mauresmo was still playing challengers at 18 and winning junior events only a year earlier. Sabatini was in the top 5 at 17 years old, also, and played her last GS final at just 21. So, it's difficult to compare their careers.

However, Mauresmo's game and mentality are VERY similar to Sabatini's; more so than any player. Having battled Sabatini more times than most, Seles on several occasions said Amelie played like Sabatini.

Mauresmo hits the ball harder, but that's probably in keeping with the modern style. Had Sabatini played in this era she'd have probably gone more for pace and less for her renowned relentlessly topspun baseline consistency. Their physiques are similar, their movement is not lightning, but deceptively fast, and they are both wonderful athletes. Both are relatively comfortable at the net, and although Mauresmo's serve is stronger than Sabatini's infamously jittery delivery, she too is prone to an inability to avoid the net cord when her service deserts her.

Sabatini and Mauresmo are both great human beings; caring and sensitive. You get the impression that sometimes they're not mean enough to win tight matches.

Whatever the differences in eras, Sabatini and Mauresmo are uncannily similar to one another. Gabi was more consistent both in her results and her style, while Mauresmo is a little more dangerous in fits and starts.

Yet Novotna's career profile matches Mauresmo's a lot better.

LiliaLee-Frazier
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:10 PM
Personally I think there is far more to analogise Mauresmo with Novotna or Sabatini.

Pam Shriver was a good player and reached no.3 in the world. But she was never a match for Chris and Martina until they began to wane in the late 80s.

Mauresmo is about where Novotna was at this stage of her career (approaching 26) in terms of career titles and occasional wins over world no1's.

Novotna had a slightly better grandslam record by 1995 than Mauresmo has at present (Jan 1995 Novotna had reached: RU Aus 91, SF French 93, Wimbledon RU 93, U.S Open SF 94), but she had not reached no.1 in the world.

Sabatini's career was practically over by Mauresmo's current age in late 1995. She had less than a few tournaments to go, having sat out most of 1996 with an injury, only to then quit on realising she lacked the motivation to reach the top 5 again.

Gabi began a lot earlier, at 14, whereas Mauresmo was still playing challengers at 18 and winning junior events only a year earlier. Sabatini was in the top 5 at 17 years old, also, and played her last GS final at just 21. So, it's difficult to compare their careers.

However, Mauresmo's game and mentality are VERY similar to Sabatini's; more so than any player. Having battled Sabatini more times than most, Seles on several occasions said Amelie played like Sabatini.

Mauresmo hits the ball harder, but that's probably in keeping with the modern style. Had Sabatini played in this era she'd have probably gone more for pace and less for her renowned relentlessly topspun baseline consistency. Their physiques are similar, their movement is not lightning, but deceptively fast, and they are both wonderful athletes. Both are relatively comfortable at the net, and although Mauresmo's serve is stronger than Sabatini's infamously jittery delivery, she too is prone to an inability to avoid the net cord when her service deserts her.

Sabatini and Mauresmo are both great human beings; caring and sensitive. You get the impression that sometimes they're not mean enough to win tight matches.

Whatever the differences in eras, Sabatini and Mauresmo are uncannily similar to one another. Gabi was more consistent both in her results and her style, while Mauresmo is a little more dangerous in fits and starts.

Yet Novotna's career profile matches Mauresmo's a lot better.

Now theres a real tennis fan...you really know your shit :cool:

suzie
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:10 PM
This type of analysis makes it look like Amélie retired or has nothing else to improve... :rolleyes: the girl is fit and playing! Let her play and we'll come back to this thread in 5 or 6 years! :p

lunarossa
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Amelie is simply Amelie :)
and for this reason I love her....

katiektc
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:14 PM
How can you even put Mauresmo in the same class as Pam? Mauresmo is far more talented (and alot more pleasing to the eye I might add) than Pam! Just the fact that this thread was made disappoints me! :mad:


Shocking!! Have u even SEEN the Pamster?! She didnt Bag-a-Bond looking like a scruff ya know!!
http://www.cair.it/public/pam%20shriver.jpg

And may i say, she pulled the slice backhand off better too.
;)

Pengwin
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:15 PM
There's only one Pamela Shriver.











Thankfully ;)

:worship:

I know what you mean, if there was more than one Pam Shriver then tennis would be SHIT to watch :eek:

LostGlory
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:37 PM
Firstly, let me just say that I like Amelie and really wish she wins a slam especially the French Open which is what she wants.

BUT...

There are similarities between her and Pam.

- Both reach their first slams as teenagers and it was a huge surprise.

- Both lost that slam final to a heavily favorite reigning queen of tennis in straight sets.

- After that, everyone thought they're going to have such great careers and win many slams.

- It never happened.

The difference is...

Amelie is having a far better singles career than Pam ever did, by reaching #1 etc...

But Pam had a better doubles career. And also, in Pam's days she was unlucky to have been in the same era as Evert and Navratilova. One or both were at their best in every slam. That's rare, these days. So Amelie really doesn't have that excuse.

I wish Amelie luck but it has been OVER 6 years since...

First of all Amelie is still playing so the whole argument makes no sense....
2nd of all if Pam was in the Era of Navratilova and Evert then Amelie started her career in the Era of Legends such as Graf, Seles, Hingis, and Davenport...and grew with the William sisters...The Russian Revolution and last but not least The mighty Belgians.....Bearing in mind that it is a proven fact not a theory that the WTA Field is so much more competitive and demanding and for some one to be in the top 10 and stay there for a few years is a very difficult thing as we notice that most top players are spending off time injury time rather than on the tour competing Simply because of that...
Amelie's career was hampered with injuies and regardless of all the misfortunes she was able to reach the top honors for 5 weeks and get extremely close 2 other times ....
I think maybe people should leave Amelie alone for a while....because Regardless of all the misfortunes Amelie knows that there is a problem that is stopping her from reaching her potential but unlike many others she has the guts to admit it and seek help to over come it.....

Like I always say may the Best Player win....
Good Luck to Amelie.....

améliemomo
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:41 PM
First of all Amelie is still playing so the whole argument makes no sense....
2nd of all if Pam was in the Era of Navratilova and Evert then Amelie started her career in the Era of Legends such as Graf, Seles, Hingis, and Davenport...and grew with the William sisters...The Russian Revolution and last but not least The mighty Belgians.....Bearing in mind that it is a proven fact not a theory that the WTA Field is so much more competitive and demanding and for some one to be in the top 10 and stay there for a few years is a very difficult thing as we notice that most top players are spending off time injury time rather than on the tour competing Simply because of that...
Amelie's career was hampered with injuies and regardless of all the misfortunes she was able to reach the top honors for 5 weeks and get extremely close 2 other times ....
I think maybe people should leave Amelie alone for a while....because Regardless of all the misfortunes Amelie knows that there is a problem that is stopping her from reaching her potential but unlike many others she has the guts to admit it and seek help to over come it.....

Like I always say may the Best Player win....
Good Luck to Amelie.....

:worship: :kiss:

Declan
Feb 28th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Personally I think there is far more to analogise Mauresmo with Novotna or Sabatini.

Pam Shriver was a good player and reached no.3 in the world. But she was never a match for Chris and Martina until they began to wane in the late 80s.

Mauresmo is about where Novotna was at this stage of her career (approaching 26) in terms of career titles and occasional wins over world no1's.

Novotna had a slightly better grandslam record by 1995 than Mauresmo has at present (Jan 1995 Novotna had reached: RU Aus 91, SF French 93, Wimbledon RU 93, U.S Open SF 94), but she had not reached no.1 in the world.

Sabatini's career was practically over by Mauresmo's current age in late 1995. She had less than a few tournaments to go, having sat out most of 1996 with an injury, only to then quit on realising she lacked the motivation to reach the top 5 again.

Gabi began a lot earlier, at 14, whereas Mauresmo was still playing challengers at 18 and winning junior events only a year earlier. Sabatini was in the top 5 at 17 years old, also, and played her last GS final at just 21. So, it's difficult to compare their careers.

However, Mauresmo's game and mentality are VERY similar to Sabatini's; more so than any player. Having battled Sabatini more times than most, Seles on several occasions said Amelie played like Sabatini.

Mauresmo hits the ball harder, but that's probably in keeping with the modern style. Had Sabatini played in this era she'd have probably gone more for pace and less for her renowned relentlessly topspun baseline consistency. Their physiques are similar, their movement is not lightning, but deceptively fast, and they are both wonderful athletes. Both are relatively comfortable at the net, and although Mauresmo's serve is stronger than Sabatini's infamously jittery delivery, she too is prone to an inability to avoid the net cord when her service deserts her.

Sabatini and Mauresmo are both great human beings; caring and sensitive. You get the impression that sometimes they're not mean enough to win tight matches.

Whatever the differences in eras, Sabatini and Mauresmo are uncannily similar to one another. Gabi was more consistent both in her results and her style, while Mauresmo is a little more dangerous in fits and starts.

Yet Novotna's career profile matches Mauresmo's a lot better.

Some valid points but not strictly correct with regards to Pam. Yes, she only started beating Chris in 1987, but her final win over Martina came in 1982, so her wins over Navratilova were not after she 'began to wane in the late 80s': they were in her absolute peak years.

tennislover
Mar 1st, 2005, 11:21 AM
There's only one Pamela Shriver.











Thankfully ;)

:lol:

tennislover
Mar 1st, 2005, 11:21 AM
Amelie is simply Amelie :)
and for this reason I love her....

nice

esquímaux
Mar 2nd, 2005, 11:11 PM
http://www.cair.it/public/pam%20shriver.jpgHot tamale :drool::D