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JennyS
Feb 26th, 2005, 01:41 PM
1. Class and sportsmanship. Sure she swears. Who doesn't? But she is probably one player who never gets credit for being classy. Some examples:
-She never gets personal about her opponents when talking in press conferences. Compare that to Hingis and Davenport calling Mauresmo masculine.
-She doesn't brag about her talent. She comes across as very humble and never says things like "if I play my best, nobody can beat me."
-She always says something nice about her opponents when she loses. Some folks don't recognize this at all, but it's true.
-She does not take injury time outs often and when she does, she actually is injured. In some really big matches, like those US Open semi finals, she could have easily faked an injury and asked for a timeout to stop the momentum, but she didn't. Even Davenport said that in their sf match at Indian Wells two years ago that Jen doesn't do that to people.
-She dedicated two of her Slams to cancer patients. Very very classy.
-She does plenty of charity work, is very patient when signing autographs for fans and gets along very well with her opponents.

2. Clutch play/heart: Sure she's choked. Who HASN'T. But don't tell me she didn't show heart or clutch play in the following matches...
-2001 Aussie Open quarters. Down a set and 2-4 to Seles. Came back to win.
-2001 FO Qf's. After blowing the second set on a double fault, came back to beat Serena in three
-2001 FO final. Won a 1-6 6-4 12-10 thriller against Clijsters.
-2001 Wimbledon qf's. Down a set 3-5 0-30 to Serena Williams, came back to win.
-2002 Aussie Open finals. Down a set and 0-4. BRUTAL conditions. 4 championship points saved. End of story.
-2004 US Open qf's. Who gives a damn about the bad calls

3. Fitness:
Folks criticise her for being "fat" and unfit. But she sure as heck doesn't play like an out of shape player.
-She won 3 three setters at the FO and 3 three setters at the US Open in 2004, and ran like the wind in those matches at the Open. Her defense in the US Open qf was amazing and she ran her butt off in her SF loss. Something an out of shape person could not do.
-She continues to impress with on court speed, which is VERY underrated

etc etc

Jennifer's wife
Feb 26th, 2005, 02:49 PM
:worship:

i totally agree. jen is a class act whether the haters on this board like it or not

vertigo
Feb 26th, 2005, 02:54 PM
-2001 FO final. Won a 1-6 6-4 12-10 thriller against Clijsters.
-2002 Aussie Open finals. Down a set and 0-4. BRUTAL conditions. 4 championship points saved. End of story.


Two of the best finals I have EVER had the priviledge to watch. :kiss:

englishjenfan
Feb 26th, 2005, 05:10 PM
:worship:

i totally agree. jen is a class act whether the haters on this board like it or not


:wavey: :worship: Great post and definately true.

skanky~skanketta
Feb 26th, 2005, 05:43 PM
yeah, but remember that incident with dementieva at the USO i think, where dementieva won the point, but the umpire accidentally called 15-40 then corrected to 30-30 (i think)....she was like "wtf?u cant change what u said!" yeah right, but its ok for them to change line calls for u.

still, respect and kudos to her for her charity work and dedicating her slams to cancer patients. and she is a great fighter, i will admit.

FrauleinSteffi
Feb 26th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Jennifer is a wonderful player & so talented still great enough to win a Slam & stay in the top ten if not higher Come back Jenny soon! Get well:)

Jenny.C.Fan
Feb 26th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Great post, jen is such a classy act and she's so missed on the tour, get well soon jenny :)

Lemonskin.
Feb 26th, 2005, 07:30 PM
yeah, but remember that incident with dementieva at the USO i think, where dementieva won the point, but the umpire accidentally called 15-40 then corrected to 30-30 (i think)....she was like "wtf?u cant change what u said!" yeah right, but its ok for them to change line calls for u..
Cappers also falsely accused the umpire of calling the score wrong for the past 3 points which was odd to me coz CLEARLY she hadn't been

jacobruiz
Feb 26th, 2005, 08:53 PM
Cappers also falsely accused the umpire of calling the score wrong for the past 3 points which was odd to me coz CLEARLY she hadn't been

I think recent history has shown that it is better to speak up when in doubt than keep quiet and trust the umpire to always keep the score correctly!

C'mon Jenny, come back soon!:sad:

Asmus
Feb 26th, 2005, 09:41 PM
Great post!

Stamp Paid
Feb 26th, 2005, 10:49 PM
:yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

pav
Feb 26th, 2005, 10:56 PM
As well as the above, She also has the X factor in entertainment value, remarks like the baby, the blimp etc are priceless!

Geisha
Feb 26th, 2005, 11:42 PM
Jennifer once said "It seems like everytime we play Serena is injured"...

harloo
Feb 26th, 2005, 11:49 PM
1. Class and sportsmanship. Sure she swears. Who doesn't? But she is probably one player who never gets credit for being classy.


:smash: :smash: :retard: :haha: :haha:

hablo
Feb 27th, 2005, 01:24 AM
yeah, but remember that incident with dementieva at the USO i think, where dementieva won the point, but the umpire accidentally called 15-40 then corrected to 30-30 (i think)....she was like "wtf?u cant change what u said!" yeah right, but its ok for them to change line calls for u.
still, respect and kudos to her for her charity work and dedicating her slams to cancer patients. and she is a great fighter, i will admit.

I remember that too :) :lol:

I don't really like her, but she's a fighter when she wants to be! Especially in those matches against clijsters and Hingis, that some posters mentionned :yeah:

Doraemon
Feb 27th, 2005, 01:38 AM
If anything, Jennifer Capriati is overrated and especially the starter of the thread lives in his/her dream world where Jennifer rules.

RedFilaJ-Cap#1
Feb 27th, 2005, 01:44 AM
This is a great thread. Everything you said was so true. She is underrated and will never truly get the credit she deserves. She is by far the best athlete and tennis player to watch. Her matches are the greatest. I can't wait til she comes back. Get better soon Jen!!!

Melly Flew Us
Feb 27th, 2005, 01:48 AM
jenny's forthright and direct, qualities often misunderstood as crass and coarse.

Dominic
Feb 27th, 2005, 06:40 PM
She looks prettu nice off court but on the court she's not very classy and if there is any way she can run away with a point she will (the dementieva incident). And I actually think her game is overrated nowadays. She used to be great but now she's way to defensive.

UDiTY
Feb 27th, 2005, 07:23 PM
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oaky
Feb 27th, 2005, 10:02 PM
Jen was also honest to speak out when the ball was good but called wide by the empire. I copied match report from old post. Beleived it was her 3rd tournament in 90.

Capriati started fast against Zvereva, taking just 17 minutes to win the first set.

Ahead by 5-3 in the second, it appeared Capriati would have two match points, at 40-15, after Zvereva hit a forehand that was called wide.

But Capriati said the shot was good, and the point was given to Zvereva, who rallied to break for 5-4.

"It was a good shot," Capriati said. "They called it out and it hit the line. So I wanted to be fair and just say it was good, because it was good."

But Zvereva failed to take advantage, making three straight unforced errors for 15-40. Capriati hit an overhead volley to finish the match.

MisterQ
Feb 27th, 2005, 11:43 PM
I think Capriati's court sense is underrated by some. (She's no Hingis, thinking several shots ahead during the point, but then again not many players are!) Capriati is seen by some as a mindless slugger, but she has always had a sense of where to put the ball so that she can stay in the point, and what her chances are of making that shot with her particular ball-striking abilities. Her defensive work has always been impressive. This was true even as a young teenager.

DEETHELICK
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:50 AM
When I think of Jen, a few words come to mind.

Fighter - possibly one of the greatest warriors out there, will give it her all no matter what. You can literally see the effort she puts into her matches.

Honesty - Jen has always come across honest and open, never snide. Even after her USO 2003 loss, she talked openly about how she felt and exposed her vulnerability.

Classiness - People here talk about her using an f-word. What they forget is how much of a friend she has been to Morariu. And there are countless others whose life she has touched.

Jen is a top player, a classy player who burst onto the scene with a youthfulness never seen before. As an older woman, she is so much more secure and wiser with herself. And she is always a joy to watch.

JennyS
Feb 28th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Nice post DEETHELICK. I also agree with MisterQ's post as well.

I'm glad so many people have enjoyed this thread. I also thought of another part of Jen that is underrated: her intelligence. Some folks think she's dumb cause she's not the greatest interviewer, but she's really very bright and enjoys reading philosophy books).

TeamUSA#1
Feb 28th, 2005, 02:39 PM
Cappers also falsely accused the umpire of calling the score wrong for the past 3 points which was odd to me coz CLEARLY she hadn't been


Actually, the umpire tried to correct herself on the 2nd point she had called the score wrong. (She called the score 30-15 for Jen when it should have been 15-30, and then Jen won the next point and she called it 40-15, and then corrected to 30-30)And Jen was correct in her arguement, once the score has been called and another point has been played, the rules state you can not change the score. There was also another player on the court that day, who didnt know what the score was......


Anyways, back to the topic of this thread. Jen is such a true competitor, but off court is very laid back and REAL! She puts her family first, and is good to her fans. She does tons of charity, and is good to her friends. She is also very philisophical and spiritual.

On court, she is a fighter, one of the best strikers of the ball in history, has incredible endurance and speed and strength, she never says anything mean about the other players on tour, and she has exceptional court sense and an inate ability to construct points.

She is an inspiration to all of us who have had to struggle with adversity (wether self imposed or inflicted by outsiders). Her ability to reclaim her life and her sport in the process is truley amazing and her story transcends sports--- it is a life story and a great one- one that can never be taken away from her!

JennyS
Feb 28th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Actually, the umpire tried to correct herself on the 2nd point she had called the score wrong. (She called the score 30-15 for Jen when it should have been 15-30, and then Jen won the next point and she called it 40-15, and then corrected to 30-30)And Jen was correct in her arguement, once the score has been called and another point has been played, the rules state you can not change the score. There was also another player on the court that day, who didnt know what the score was......


Anyways, back to the topic of this thread. Jen is such a true competitor, but off court is very laid back and REAL! She puts her family first, and is good to her fans. She does tons of charity, and is good to her friends. She is also very philisophical and spiritual.

On court, she is a fighter, one of the best strikers of the ball in history, has incredible endurance and speed and strength, she never says anything mean about the other players on tour, and she has exceptional court sense and an inate ability to construct points.

She is an inspiration to all of us who have had to struggle with adversity (wether self imposed or inflicted by outsiders). Her ability to reclaim her life and her sport in the process is truley amazing and her story transcends sports--- it is a life story and a great one- one that can never be taken away from her!

Wonderful post!

RedFilaJ-Cap#1
Feb 28th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Yes I agree that is a great post.

I watched that match and I can not even remeber the real score. That is all confusing and I still really don't get it but o well. Jen is just so great!!!

jenny161185
Feb 28th, 2005, 04:31 PM
I love this thread ! cant wait to see her back!

selesbooz
Feb 28th, 2005, 05:05 PM
The one thing that i will all ways remember about jenny is when asked about Title IX and how it has helped her and other females in sport, Capriati says "What is that, i'am sorry but i do not know what that means" :haha: :drink: :smash: :help: :tape: :lol:

bello
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:46 PM
Great points JennyS! :)

And one other...she has done so much and yet didnt even get to play much during the years which are usually a player's prime! (ages 17-24)

Come back soon Jen!!!

AnnArbor25
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:48 PM
:worship:

i totally agree. jen is a class act whether the haters on this board like it or not

She's friendly if you meet her in person too. I mean she's just like she is on TV.

Jennifer's wife
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:57 PM
i like what sum1 sed about Jen bein good to her fans. she actually makes time for them, signing, photos whatever. Jen even once hugged me and thanked me for my support and sed 'it means so much' :hearts: can anyone else say another tennis player has done that for them? i mean im sure there are people with similar stories about meeting their faves. but my example just shows why jen fans love her so much and care about her. because she cares about us.

we all love u jen and are prayin u get well real soon :kiss: :hug:

Bacardi
Feb 28th, 2005, 09:58 PM
I think she's underrated because these people won't let her leave her past behind her. She was young, and dumb... weren't we all once. Let her live, at least she proved she could come back and win a lot. :yeah:

Robbie.
Feb 28th, 2005, 10:02 PM
I think Capriati's court sense is underrated by some. (She's no Hingis, thinking several shots ahead during the point, but then again not many players are!) Capriati is seen by some as a mindless slugger, but she has always had a sense of where to put the ball so that she can stay in the point, and what her chances are of making that shot with her particular ball-striking abilities. Her defensive work has always been impressive. This was true even as a young teenager.

Interesting you should mention Hingis. Martina once said that playing Jenn was like playing a mirror of herself so she obviously saw the similarities too.

Jenn :hearts:

JenCpLvr
Mar 2nd, 2005, 06:05 AM
You mean to tell me that some of you guys have never seen another player mouth a curse word? Lindsay said it straight into the camera at the Aus...

Get a life people... class isn't defined by swearing in a time of intense competition..

Veenut
Mar 2nd, 2005, 05:51 PM
You need to revisit the meaning of class and honesty if you are going to use those words to describe Jennifer. To me those are two of her biggest character flaws. She is the only felon on the WTA that I know of. She was accused of theft and if that doesn't count as dishonesty then what is? :fiery:

This is also clearly displayed on the tennis court also, where she is the biggest complainer of line calls and she is wrong 99% of the time. Who can forget the US open quarter and semifinal incidents. Her foul mouth and stripping off her clothes in bars does not help her with "class" either. I don't find these traits endearing, but "to each his own". Honesty is a "biggy" for me even in the face of defeat. I can't defend dishonesty no matter how you try to spin and justify it. :fiery:

Anyway all is not lost with her on me because the funny thing is that I rooted for her twice against Hinges. :o

jonny84
Mar 2nd, 2005, 06:06 PM
She is a fighter - as we have previously discussed with her coming back in big slam matches!!!!!

John.
Mar 2nd, 2005, 06:08 PM
Great post. I totally agree

bigshow21
Mar 3rd, 2005, 12:54 AM
Oh my! How did this thread pass me up without me even posting in it??

I agree! She deserves a lot more credit than what people give her. She is one of the greatest players/athletes ever, no one can deny her of that. She has achieved so much, more than most athletes can say. So to say she isn't great or worthy of anything is just pure BS! Get well soon Jen and bring on comeback #2!!!! :)

PatM04
Mar 3rd, 2005, 05:00 AM
Woohoo Jen:)

Stamp Paid
Mar 3rd, 2005, 05:05 AM
Her uncanny ability to not come up with the goods when under pressure every single time* is a highly underrated trait of Ms. Capriati.

*Yes, I admit, except against Serena, but thats only because Jennifer is so envious of her. :p

JPrince
Mar 3rd, 2005, 05:06 AM
I agree that Jen is a class A player. I admire her very much. However, I can remember waaaaay back at the '90 or '91 Lipton Championships against Sabatini when she was getting ready to return serve and deliberatly squeeked the soles of her shoes against the court in an effort to distract Sabatini on her serve. I found it quite funny though! Good try Jen! I realize she was only 14 at the time and has done alot of growing up since, but I'll never forget that! :lol:

Gerri
Mar 3rd, 2005, 12:44 PM
i like what sum1 sed about Jen bein good to her fans. she actually makes time for them, signing, photos whatever. Jen even once hugged me and thanked me for my support and sed 'it means so much' :hearts: can anyone else say another tennis player has done that for them? i mean im sure there are people with similar stories about meeting their faves. but my example just shows why jen fans love her so much and care about her. because she cares about us.

we all love u jen and are prayin u get well real soon :kiss: :hug:

True, I know she can get bad press for all the swearing and stuff, but when I saw her at Eastbourne a couple of years ago she was so nice to everyone even though she'd just lost. She did loads of autographs, photos, hugs and was all smiley with everyone.

She's so gutsy and determined. God I miss her, come back strong Jen :kiss:

Jennifer's wife
Mar 3rd, 2005, 02:49 PM
eastbourne eh? u probly saw me getting my photo with her at some point! ;)


ok so if swearing, drinking, taking your top off for a laugh, smoking, generally having a good time is considered to be unclassy, will someone please tell that to certain members of the British royal family?? they are obviously classy as they are born extreme upper class! :p whats good enough for Prince Harry is good enough for (comeback) Queen Jen!! (who will reign again) :angel: