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Dec 27th, 2001, 07:02 PM
Who will be the first to put together enough Grand Slam wins in 2002 to acquire a career slam?(all 4 GS titles in a career rather than a calendar year)

1. Davenport - Needs RG win to go along with her Wimby, Open and Oz wins. Not an exceptional clay courter and knees are getting worse with age. Davey is not likely to get this 4th gem ever in her great career.

2. Capriatti - Needs Open and Wimby for the crown jewel and to do that she would have to probably defeat VENUS twice. Like that is going to happen.

3. VENUS - Needs the Oz and Roland Garros to have the Career Slam. VENUS is a slow starter and even though she could win RG, a quick start would be necessary to take Oz and the CS.

4. Hingis - Best and worst chance of most players. Needs only the RG and is a good clay courter, but seems to have lost her nerve in 2001.

In conclusion, the odds of fans seeing a Career Slam this year by any of the above mention players would be slim at best.

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:08 PM
I think Martina has the best chances to win the 4 slams. She's a good claycourt player.

Venus or Serena could win all 4 slams. They are so talented, they could win on all 4 surfaces.

Davenport won't be playing for a long time anymore so she'll have to win RG this year or next year...

Capriati winning Wimbledon & US Open... Hmmm I don't see that happening soon. She could win all 4 slams though if she plays like she did last year.

Mary Pierce won't win the 4 slams. She's not a good grass player, altho she could win the US Open if she comes back to her old level (or better!).

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:14 PM
There is another player with an arguable chance of winning the career slam bearing in mind that she only needs Wimbledon ...

IMHO Venus and Martina are the two most likely to manage it at the moment.

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:19 PM
I would have to say Jennifer Capriati! she had a good showing at the slam she didnt win!

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:25 PM
Who are u talking about, Kart?

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:27 PM
I think he's talking about Monica Seles <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:31 PM
That's right <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:43 PM
How could I forget Monica <img src="redface.gif" border="0">

But her last slam win is such a long time ago...

Dec 27th, 2001, 07:44 PM
Davenport- winning the French is all in her (beautful) head. I hope she takes the title one year before she calls it quits.

Dec 27th, 2001, 08:07 PM
I think Hingis will do it first, as she has a really good chance at RG.

But I also think that Capriati will do it eventually too. She's got a good game for hardcourts & grass and although seemingly underestimated by everyone but her fans on this board, she should do it.

Venus & Linds both have the problem that clay doesn't suit them. That said, both could do it if they really wanted to. Basically with both players it will come down to whether or not they really care enough about the clay season and RG to put the work in.

Serena has been so variable, that I'm reluctant to predict either way on. She certainly could win all 4 slams.

Monica Seles, I really can't see winning Wimbledon. She might pick up another slam, but it'd be RG or possibly the Oz.

Dec 27th, 2001, 10:34 PM
Monica has the best shot. With a very favorable draw she can win Wimby (she's been to the SF, QF, and Finals already before), so she's does know how to play on grass.

Martina has a shot...but I fear her greatest chance was 97 in Paris...

Williams sisters can win anything, anywhere, so I certainly wouldn't be surprised if either did it, but I doubt that BOTH will do it.

I think Lindsay lacks patience and confidence to win in Paris...but she too can win anything, anywhere, so I wouldn't be totally surprised if she did it

Dec 27th, 2001, 11:55 PM
[quote]i actually think clay does suit venus' game. she's a very good defensive player, can rally well and she has shown she can play on clay<hr></blockquote>

<font color=burgundy>Thank You Average Kinda Guy! The Goddess is underrated on clay. Eventhough she's beaten a couple of French Open champions on clay, (Pierce,ASV) that doesn't seem to matter to folks. Italian Open 1999, she beat Hingis, then went on to put away Pierce in the final, was in the '98 final too I believe,(losing to M.Hingis). Beat Pierce back 2 back on clay that year. I think Venus, is VENUS no matter what the surface.</font color>

Dec 28th, 2001, 12:34 AM
Although I like Jenn, Monica or Lindsay to have a career GS, I do think VENUS will do it first.

Dec 28th, 2001, 12:53 AM
Yeah, why do people think Venus is bad on clay?

She's the best in the world, on ALL surfaces, I expect her to do really well this year at Rg and she could win the Grand Slam (all 4 slams).

Crazy Canuck
Dec 28th, 2001, 01:12 AM
I'd put money on Hingis winning Roland Garros SOME DAY, provided she doesn't retire early.

I expect to see Venus do it if she wants it, as well.

Dec 28th, 2001, 01:32 AM
Order in which it could occur<br />1. Venus<br />2. Martina<br />3. Serena<br />4. Lyndsay<br />5. Monica

Williams Rulez
Dec 28th, 2001, 03:38 AM
I think Venus or Martina will do it first <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2001, 12:02 PM
Martina will do it this year, if not Venus by next year...

Dec 28th, 2001, 12:10 PM
OMG!!!!!! Serena isbeing out ahead of Lindsay!!!

Lindsat just needs ONE<br />Serena needs ONE TWO THREE!!!!!!


For me it would be <br />1. Martina<br />2. Lindsay<br />3. capriati<br />4. venus

Williams Rulez
Dec 28th, 2001, 12:16 PM
These are just opinions. I could critise yours just as easily if I wanted to Davenfan <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

Dec 28th, 2001, 12:21 PM
OK do it!!!!

<br />I still bet on the one who needs less.<br />Then good past showings........

Serena- any more than quarters besides US????

Williams Rulez
Dec 28th, 2001, 12:25 PM
I think Serena should be behind Lindsay for that matter. Oh yeah, Serena reached a slam final this year, did Lindsay even reach one <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

I can accept your list, but I would Venus in front of Capriati simply because Capriati is no match for Venus, Monica or Lindsay on hardcourts. She has little chance of taking the US Open. And as for Wimbledon, I doubt she can even beat Venus there. So naturally, Venus should be ahead of Capriati.

Dec 28th, 2001, 12:30 PM
Your right!!!!! Venus could be ahead of Capriati, buts that is still debatable.

Yeah, Serena reach one final, US again, she already won that and we are talking of Career Slams remember????

Dec 28th, 2001, 01:37 PM
The reason for me putting Serena ahead of Lindsay is because of the clay factor. Lindsay sees clay as a mild set back before the grass and hardcourt season. Until that attitude changes she will not be victorious in Roland Garros. That does not mean she will not win, it just means that it is not as likely to happen. <br />A persons attitude and confidence say a hell of a lot.

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: brickhousesupporter ]</p>

Dec 28th, 2001, 04:56 PM
VENUS - If she wins Oz, nothing will stop her from attaining the RG title.

Hingis - Will have to show some dominance before RG to be given a chance to win in Paris.

Davenport - The knees will stop her chances, but even if they are injury free, she will still have to beat both WILLIAMS.

Capriati - She can forget those career slams while VENUS is crushing everyone at Wimby and the Open.

Seles - The odds of her beating VENUS and/0r SERENA at Wimby are indeed slim.

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0"> <br />Chairman, WTA

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: TeeRexx ]</p>

Dec 28th, 2001, 05:10 PM
With the players who only have to win 1 more...Martina is most likely. Martina has the game for clay. Lindsay doesn't really like clay, even though she has the game she just doesn't have it in the head on clay. Monica doesn't have the game on grass to be a consistent threat on the surface.

Venus can win OZ but RG would be a far shot now. With Henin, Clijsters, Seles, Pierce, Capriati, Mauresmo, etc. all greater on clay then Venus this would be her toughest slam to win. I think she will win it one day.

Serena...same as Venus

Jen...don't see it happening

chanda norton
Dec 28th, 2001, 05:38 PM
I have read all of the posts, some good input, others are just completely whack, but we all are entitled to our opinion...

my opinion is simply..


Martina has hit the rocks,<br />Capriati is about to hit the rocks, <br />Davey is on the rocks, <br />and even though Serena is my girl, <br />she can't get past the rocks,

although, Monica could fool us all.

But I'm sticking with Venus.

<img src="graemlins/lick.gif" border="0" alt="[Lick]" />

Dec 28th, 2001, 11:39 PM
lmao@booboop!!<br />couldn't agree more. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Dec 28th, 2001, 11:46 PM
While I'd agree that Venus is a little understimated on clay, it is nevertheless true that there are quite a few players that are better than her on the surface. E.g. Martina, Kim, Justine, Jen, Monica, Amelie for sure, and Linds, Serena, Jelena, ASV, Conchita, Coetzer, Testud could all beat her although wouldn't necessarily. Therefore, I think that to predict her to win RG & the Oz Open before Martina Hingis wins RG is a little bit optimistic.

I do think Venus will win the career slam at some point, but I think it'll take her longer than it will take Martina. Her clay game really isn't there yet, and it'll take a certain amount of work and clay tournaments to get it together. I'm sure it'll happen, but it'll take a while.

Nan Cu
Dec 29th, 2001, 02:41 AM
Martina has hit the rocks,<br />Capriati is about to hit the rocks, <br />Davey is on the rocks, <br />and even though Serena is my girl, <br />she can't get past the rocks,


Dec 29th, 2001, 05:47 AM
ROFLMFAO@Booboop!! <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

You are rocked, dude. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Dec 29th, 2001, 05:58 AM
Although I would love to see Capriati win the career GS, I think her biggest obstacle will be Wimbledon. Although clay is not her best surface, Venus can still win the FO. She has several clay court titles and just happened to have some bad French Opens.....I love Capriati and she is my favorite, and I have to admit I think with her game it was a surprise. Therefore, I think Venus has just as good a shot

Verdict: Venus

Dec 29th, 2001, 10:45 AM
It would only be between Lindsay & Martina.<br />They just need ONE.

Next would be Monica if Lindsay & Venus will be injured during the Wimbledon.

Who knows??? Jelena might be ahead of Serena to have a career slams!!!!

Dec 29th, 2001, 01:49 PM
i would like to say venus but i just have this feeling it will martina,all she has to do is win the french open and clay happens to be her best surface,i'm surprised she hasn't won it yet,so i think it will be martina who gets it first the venus.

Dec 29th, 2001, 04:48 PM
Well with the 32 seeds this year unlike the 16 from 2001, I see venus having a good chance but let's not forget serena who I felt gave hingis the chance to appear in the OZ final and who let capriati off the hook twice(Rg and Wimbly). Serena is the Williams' with the goods who leaves it all up to herself to lose.....Venus is my girl but needs more patience and hopefully can pull it off this year....in all fairness I don't really want them to win roland garros due to the fact that RG is the jinx slam out there. Look at all the past champions in the last 10 years.....not good.....Mary, Monica,Martin H.....their careers haven't been the same since winning that damn title......even Jen, who fell off after winning the title. She hasn't been the same...you'd think that the same player who gave Venus a run for her money in March2000 would at least show up to play in Pilot Pen and flushing Meadows...but what we got was a player who got the energy and motivation snapped out of her......if Venus and Serena were to win at RG I say do it in their last year on tour........

Dec 29th, 2001, 06:50 PM
Mac - I am not superstitous nor do I believe in jinxes.<br />I think that VENUS and SERENA can get multiple RG wins and continue playing at the top of the heap.<br />he French are dying for Queen V to win their title in Paris real soon.

TR <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Dec 30th, 2001, 05:38 AM
Venus and Serena are both on a mission in 2002. They are going to set the courts on fire and taking no prisoners <img src="graemlins/kiss.gif" border="0" alt="[Kiss]" />

Dec 30th, 2001, 05:46 AM
I can't see any of the current players winning the Grand Slam in the next year or two. Players today are far too surface-discriminant. Personally, I think if you are a Professional tennis player, you should be able to play on any surface.

[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: Vanity ]</p>

Dec 30th, 2001, 10:47 AM
Martina first, then Venus.

If Venus can snag Oz and RG before Martina gets RG, then Venus is hands down the best female tennis player of her generation. Perhaps more than that.

... and it's possible.

Bright Red
Jan 22nd, 2003, 03:21 AM
Amazing what the real answer turned out to be---> SERENA. Would anyone argue that it's not in her reach? Just two games away.

Jan 22nd, 2003, 05:01 AM
I agree..

Serena just showed everyone what she's really capable of :worship:

All hail the queen!!! :worship: :worship:

Jan 26th, 2003, 03:08 PM
bump.....It is good looking back and seeing what we thought then.

Jan 26th, 2003, 03:20 PM
Brick - You are so right.
I didn't even have SERENA in the immediate running for a career slam and I am the supreme tennis guru. :eek: :) LOL

Jan 26th, 2003, 03:22 PM
Serena showed all you doubters :)

Jan 27th, 2003, 07:24 AM
Yeah, baby sis sure shoed the Great TeeRexx, eh? :)

Jan 27th, 2003, 09:40 AM
hmm...interesting lol

Jan 27th, 2003, 02:48 PM
LOL, I was thinking the other day about this thread...it shows how little you can predict in tennis. There was another one at the beginning of 2002 asking who would end the year at number 1. Some poster said Serena, and it was laughed from the rest. Funny how things turn out.