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Szymanowski
Feb 6th, 2005, 01:51 PM
I was just wondering why most players seem to either love grass and hate clay, or hate grass and love clay?

Safin has a terrible record on grass but loves rebound ace, and Federer is good on all surfaces, but has never shone at the French Open, and Sampras was almost an average player when playing on clay.

In contrast to most players, Maria seems to like all surfaces, Rubber, Clay, Grass and Tarmac, as well as the carpet she has just won on, which is supposed to play in a similar way to clay. As far as I can see, she seems to be easily able to adapt to any surface in any situation.

At any point in any match, she seems to be able to pull out something special, and as she gets older and stronger, as if it was not good enough already, her mental attitude will only get better.

no1mariafan
Feb 6th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Clay will be hardest for Maria to dominate on. The surface is the slowest and more of her powerful strokes will be returned by quick opponents. Maria has to hit more strokes to win a point, and sometimes her patience can go and hit unforced errors. But she will learn how to play clay, i am sure.

Szymanowski
Feb 6th, 2005, 02:01 PM
she was prettygood last yr at the french

Andy.
Feb 6th, 2005, 11:28 PM
I think when she is fully mature physically and Mentally she has the game to dominate and do well on all surfaces and win all the slams. But not just yet it will take at least another year or 2 of experience in my book.

Szymanowski
Feb 7th, 2005, 12:01 AM
I think when she is fully mature physically and Mentally she has the game to dominate and do well on all surfaces and win all the slams. But not just yet it will take at least another year or 2 of experience in my book.
This Is why i disagreed with all the ppl posting in that silly 'will she win the GS this year' thread

iin the future years, maybe :D

Gowza
Feb 7th, 2005, 12:07 AM
on clay maria is going to have to play more strategically, if she can do that then she has a chance to do well on clay, but i dont think she will ever 'dominate' on clay but she will be one of the better players on the surface ie get the results. i think she has adapted well to rebound ace shown by reaching the semis at AO this year but she still has trouble with it (just look at the scorelines), grass it just works for her and hardcourt she hasnt had the best results at the US open but she has become a much better player and i believe she will get the results there.

Sharapower
Feb 7th, 2005, 05:14 AM
There's a big difference between men and women regarding clay. In the men's game you need to be a real "specialist to win RG while in the women's field, power is going to be a huge weapon even though you don't have the clay classical shots. That's how Serena won the French Open. So I believe Maria has what it takes to win RG even this year, but it will depend on who she will have to play in her draw.

Her best performance is a quarter final (2004) which is not that bad so I guess nobody can count her out for RG and any clay tourney.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Feb 7th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Indeed... clay is going to be great for Maria this year..... I predicted her winning Roland Garros... and I think I am going to be right...

Wenicole
Feb 7th, 2005, 06:10 AM
Well, Masha is not good at clay, but the performance of French Open was good last year. And AO of this year,the moderate speed court, she also came to the semifinal and gave us a wonderful game though she has failed.
I believe that she can defend a title at Wimbledon this year. We can also see, she is improving in all kinds of competitions, really magical.
So, can she win 4 Grand Slams? We have reasons to believe her!

Gowza
Feb 7th, 2005, 08:22 AM
There's a big difference between men and women regarding clay. In the men's game you need to be a real "specialist to win RG while in the women's field, power is going to be a huge weapon even though you don't have the clay classical shots. That's how Serena won the French Open. So I believe Maria has what it takes to win RG even this year, but it will depend on who she will have to play in her draw.

Her best performance is a quarter final (2004) which is not that bad so I guess nobody can count her out for RG and any clay tourney.

i agree to a degree but i still think with so many contenders for the slams these days that the oones who play more strategically have the advantage on clay. and there is a big difference between doing well on clay and 'dominating' which is what the thread is about. clay is a tough surface to dominate on and noone in the past few years in the womens game has been able to. yes power is still an advantage on clay but it isnt as effective as on the other surfaces so the power players get into longer rallies and can get worn down whether it be within the match (drawing the error) or over the whole tournament (physically worn down from the long matches).

Mr Anderson
Feb 7th, 2005, 08:31 AM
I used to love playing on clay over rubber and grass (yes, we had all 3, very good facilities) when i was a youngen, used to be able to slide and get the ball then be in the position to move in the other direction quickly.

If you practice your ground strokes, and have good ability, it shouldnt really matter what surface u play on once u suss out the bounce and what not - its still the same size court, and u still gotta hit it in...

Maria Croft
Feb 7th, 2005, 08:51 AM
I think Maria has in in her to get great results on every surface, but she knows she has to work for it and she does, in a few years if everything goes as it should be (meaning no injury ) she may be a specialist on every surface....

faust
Feb 7th, 2005, 09:29 AM
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will maria dominate?
i think not.

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Szymanowski
Feb 7th, 2005, 06:44 PM
i agree to a degree but i still think with so many contenders for the slams these days that the oones who play more strategically have the advantage on clay. and there is a big difference between doing well on clay and 'dominating' which is what the thread is about. clay is a tough surface to dominate on and noone in the past few years in the womens game has been able to. yes power is still an advantage on clay but it isnt as effective as on the other surfaces so the power players get into longer rallies and can get worn down whether it be within the match (drawing the error) or over the whole tournament (physically worn down from the long matches).
You only have to look back to last yrs final to see you need mental strength to win on clay; on any other surface, even with nerves, Elena could've put up more of a fight; Strategy is also necessary because the ball is held up for longer (by the bay why is this not the case on grass?) but I don not understand why the Men's game on clay should be any different to the womens.

Yes, Serena powered her way to the title, but at that point, she was so far ahead of all the other players that she was able to do so, but for Maria and other players of similar, or perhaps slightly less ability, they do not have such domination in tennis in general to be able to do this. (I would have thought.)

Her best performance is a quarter final (2004) which is not that bad so I guess nobody can count her out for RG and any clay tourney.)
I more than agree with this, which is onne of the reasons I maintain she CAN win the GS.

Szymanowski
Feb 7th, 2005, 06:47 PM
I used to love playing on clay over rubber and grass (yes, we had all 3, very good facilities) when i was a youngen, used to be able to slide and get the ball then be in the position to move in the other direction quickly.
You're a lucky bast***

Gowza
Feb 7th, 2005, 11:12 PM
exactly,serena is the only player where you can say she 'powered her way' to the title at RG, it's not as easy on clay as the other surfaces for the big hitters, they can still win but they dont do it as often. serena showed it can be done at the big event but imo she actually used a little more strategy than she would on say a hardcourt. domination is also a fear factor which i wouldnt say maria has atm, she may attain it in the future and it would certainly play a part in her being able to win the big matches on the surfaces arent quite her natural surface. i'm not saying maria can't do it, im just saying to 'dominate' maria needs to add a little more strategy when playing on clay, she showed last year she can play on clay, and is certainly a contender this year for the title but domination doesnt just come from one season i.e. if she wins RG this year it doesn meant she dominated the clay events, just means she won the big one (unless of course she does win a few of the clay events then it could be considered dominating).