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tenn_ace
Mar 26th, 2002, 06:52 PM
... after his match against Horna?

any thoughts? a bit controvercial, ah?:eek: :rolleyes:

ys
Mar 26th, 2002, 07:13 PM
Would you elaborate a bit?:)

I really find it a typical Safin's interview..:)

the cat
Mar 27th, 2002, 03:38 PM
Marat said he is proud to not be a typical Russian. He's not the smartest kid in tennis. That's for sure. Remember in Oz, he said he didn't watch Johansson's match with Novak because he wanted to watch a movie. How dumb and irresponsible is that? But that's Marat. And I'll always root for him. But he'll never be a great player, because he doesn't have the mentality and dedication to be a truly great player.

ys
Mar 27th, 2002, 04:09 PM
Never say never.

He is just a rebellious youngster. Sampras had similar period in his career between his first ( USO 1990 ) and second ( Wimbledon 1993 ) Slam, when he didn't really care..

the cat
Mar 27th, 2002, 04:38 PM
No way ys! Sampras never said anything as distasteful about Americans that Safin said about Russians. I think I would have remembered if Sampras hasd ever said anything like "I'm proud not to be a typical American". It's no wonder why Safin isn't greatly loved in Moscow. His attitude sucks! And I'm sure the 100% Russian Russians can pick up on that. This happens with Kournikova, too. I'm sure some Russian people look at Anna and question, "this girl is Russian"? And unfortunately, Marat is very happy just being another very good tennis player. He doesn't have the personal make up to be an all time great tennis player. He could up in the Tennis Hall Of Fame. But he won't be an all time great, like Sampras, Agassi and Connors. Or even Wilander, Edberg and Becker.

tenn_ace
Mar 27th, 2002, 07:32 PM
true, the cat....

I just can't imagine Sampras or any other American or Englishman or Frenchman to say that... But if he feels that way...

ys
Mar 27th, 2002, 07:59 PM
So what? I am also quite proud not to be like a typical, average Russian. Because an average Russian man has no real job, is not educated well, doesn't earn any money, considers drinking the best possible leisure time, doesn't know what Internet is, and what tops it all, is completely happy about all that or at least not trying to do anything about that.. Why should I be regretting not matching this stereotype? Why should he? Eggy, are you a typical Russian? Tenn_ace, are you? Nina, are you? Typical Russian doesn't care about tennis, just to start with..

As to tennis, the cat, do you remember Sampras's persona of 1992, Agassi persona up to 1999? I don't see why can't he do that.. Besides, considering a choice between Sampras's dedication, asceticism, commitment, and a fun life of young Agassi, with all his popularity, success with beautiful women, him being a real celebrity, and then later turning his tennis commitment on having a great success.. Whose life would you choose?

tenn_ace
Mar 27th, 2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by ys
Because an average Russian man has no real job, is not educated well, doesn't earn any money, considers drinking the best possible leisure time, doesn't know what Internet is, and what tops it all, is completely happy about all that or at least not trying to do anything about that..

I guess, we just communicated with different 'average Russians'.

Besides, the only difference between your definition and what Marat does is earning money. He is not well educated, does NOT have a REAL job, he does go out and drink (remember OZ?), I'm not sure whether he knows what Internet is (probably yes)...

The difference is that he has plenty of money, residence in Monter-Carlo and a few expensive cars. And he is proud.

ys
Mar 27th, 2002, 09:56 PM
I guess, we just communicated with different 'average Russians'

Sure we all did. People of Russian origin who are here on Internet surely mostly were in the environment of educated, well-mannered people, in other words, in environment that represents 5% of Russian population at best. As a student I worked in Russian/Soviet collective farms, worked as a builder in different places from Kasakh steppes to Far East taiga, worked in remote military installation, worked in rescue squads in different ares of the country, did quite a bit of walking tourism/mountaneering, so I think I know teh coutrny and I can easily say that 'average' Russian that we communicated with during our lives in Moscow or S/P is as much alike average statistical Russian, as contemporary man is alike of 18th century man. It's two worlds.

The difference is that he has plenty of money, residence in Monter-Carlo and a few expensive cars. And he is proud.

The difference is that he is world class pro, he is elite in what he is doing, he was #1, and he was not given all that as a gift, he had to work for that and work incredibly hard. And he has every single reason to be proud about that.

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 28th, 2002, 04:49 AM
I think he means he is above the average Russian. He was sent to Spain and find his own way and learn a new language.

Marat has a life of luxury.

An average Russian is only as average as you make out to be.
I wouldn't call myself Average either.

We like to classify ourselves as "above average".

I've spent more time living abroad than in Russia so I could say i'm above average as well.

As for Marat, he should let his tennis do the talking.

tenn_ace
Mar 28th, 2002, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by TheBoiledEgg

As for Marat, he should let his tennis do the talking.

well said, TBE

the cat
Mar 28th, 2002, 03:03 PM
ys, if the average Russian man is what you say he is, then Russia has a very bleak future.

Eggy, well said as usual.

ys
Mar 28th, 2002, 03:49 PM
The cat, the nearest future for Russia is bleak indeed. Maybe next generation will be better than us..

Out of 20 of my male classmates from school at list 5 are already dead - alcoholism and alcohol-related accidents, , some became low-level gangsters and got killed, different stories. Out of those who are alive, maybe 3 or 4 are more or less successful people. The rest has no real ocupation, no real job, no business, no nothing. Out of 20 people that graduated with me from my group in university there are only two of us whose job still has something to do with what we learnt in the university. And there is nothing that could be fixed overnight. I think it will take a lifespan of another generation to make things look more or less normal.

the cat
Mar 28th, 2002, 04:52 PM
That's dissapointing to hear, ys. I knew things were bad. But not that bad. And seemingly hopeless. But let's hope President Putin can get the ball rolling in the right direction. Udachi Russia!