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Aloysius
Dec 26th, 2001, 01:26 PM
Imagine you are a tournament director of a... let's say a Tier 4 or 5 event. And you have two top players who want to play in your event really, really badly, but you can only afford having one of them in your event.

An example of this was when it was reported that both Anna Kournikova and Venus Williams had submitted requests to play in Auckland. The tournament organizer eventually went with Kournikova because she asked to play first.

Let's assume that both players made a request to play at the same time. Assume that the tournament is held in a place that is neutral to both players. And lastly, assume that the players in question want to play your event really, really badly. Which player is the bigger drawcard for your Tier 5 event? Who would you go with from the following examples?

Kim Clijsters or Justine Henin?

Martina Hingis or Anna Kournikova?

Venus Williams or Serena Williams? (Probably unlikely, but give it a whirl)

Jelena Dokic or Elena Dementieva?

Lindsay Davenport or Jennifer Capriati

Arantxa Sanchez Vicario or Conchita Martinez?

Monica Seles or Steffi Graf? (Let's pretend it's 1995, they're co-ranked and they're both desperate for match play)

Mary Pierce or Amelie Mauresmo?

Martina Navratilova or Chris Evert? (Highly unlikely in their hey-day, but hey...)

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 26th, 2001, 01:32 PM
check Gold exempt Rules in stats forum for rules regsrding Player Entry for top players in Tier III, IV and V.

Alek
Dec 26th, 2001, 02:56 PM
Kim Clijsters<br />Martina Hingis<br />Venus Williams<br />Jelena Dokic<br />Lindsay Davenport<br />Arantxa Sanchez Vicario<br />Monica Seles<br />Mary Pierce<br />Martina Navratilova

Williams Rulez
Dec 26th, 2001, 03:02 PM
Kim Clijsters

Anna Kournikova?

Venus Williams

Jelena Dokic

Jennifer Capriati <img src="redface.gif" border="0">

Arantxa Sanchez Vicario

Steffi Graf

Mary Pierce

Chris Evert... definitely! She has always been a big attraction.

Gandalf
Dec 26th, 2001, 03:16 PM
Kim

Kournikova

Venus

Dockic

Capriati

S.Vicario

Seles (it's 1995!)

Pierce

Evert

Jippo McScally
Dec 26th, 2001, 03:28 PM
Kim Clijsters <br />Anna Kournikova<br />Venus Williams <br />Jelena Dokic <br />Lindsay Davenport<br />Arantxa Sanchez Vicario<br />Monica Seles<br />Mary Pierce <br />Martina Navratilova

Williams Rulez
Dec 26th, 2001, 03:32 PM
As much as I dislike Capriati and like Lindsay, I have to admit that Capriati is a bigger draw than Lindsay now. With her comeback and everything, she has a lot of fans around, a far larger draw than Lindsay, so I think she'll be taken over Lindsay <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

Monica_Rules
Dec 26th, 2001, 03:34 PM
Kim Clijsters

Anna Kournikova

Serena Williams

Elena Dementieva

Jennifer Capriati

Arantxa Sanchez Vicario

Monica Seles

Mary Pierce

Martina Navratilova

These are the ones i think would draw most crowds the biggest debate would be serena and venus i think both would create the same amout of crowds!

Brian Stewart
Dec 26th, 2001, 05:11 PM
Considering which players are more marketable, balancing out which is more likely to draw attention to the event, higher ranked, has greater achievements, a more outgoing personality, (sometimes these attributes are split between the two), I'd say:

Clijsters<br />Kournikova<br />Venus Williams<br />Dokic<br />Capriati<br />Sanchez-V<br />Seles<br />Pierce<br />Navratilova

veryborednow
Dec 26th, 2001, 06:15 PM
I'd pick the players who would bring in the largest amount of money <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Justine Henin<br />Anna Kournikova<br />Venus Williams<br />Jelena Dokic<br />Jennifer Capriati<br />Arantxa Sanchez Vicario<br />Monica Seles<br />Mary Pierce<br />Martina Navratilova

CB
Dec 26th, 2001, 06:21 PM
Justine Henin<br />Martina Hingis<br />Venus Williams<br />Jelena Dokic<br />Jennifer Capriati <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <br />Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario<br />Mary Pierce<br />Monica Seles<br />Chris Evert

[ December 26, 2001: Message edited by: Caio Braz ]</p>

irma
Dec 26th, 2001, 07:02 PM
Kim Clijsters

Martina Hingis

Serena Williams

Jelena Dokic

Jennifer Capriati

Aranxta Sanchez-Vicario

If I was director in europe I would go for Steffi and if I was in America I would go for Monica

Mary Pierce(except in France)

Martina Navratilova

Chris
Dec 26th, 2001, 07:11 PM
Kim Clijsters

Martina Hingis

Serena Williamsa

Elena Dementieva

Lindsay Davenport

Arantxa Sanchez Vicario

Monica Seles

Mary Pierce

Martina Navratilova

Maajken
Dec 26th, 2001, 07:28 PM
Justine Henin?

Martina Hingis

Venus Williams

Jelena Dokic

Lindsay Davenport

Arantxa Sanchez Vicario

Steffi Graf?

Amelie Mauresmo?

Chris Evert?

Elske
Dec 26th, 2001, 09:06 PM
Kim Clijsters<br />Anna Kournikova<br />Venus Williams<br />Elena Dementieva<br />Lindsay Davenport<br />Arantxa Sanchez Vicario<br />Steffi Graf<br />Mary Pierc<br />Martina Navratilova

Aloysius
Dec 27th, 2001, 03:36 PM
Cool. Some interesting and contrasting choices.

Kim Clijsters or Justine Henin - Kim was first to hit the scene and was a French finalist. Justine impressed many this year and was Wimbledon finalist. Both would be considered mid-level stars. People know about them but probably might not recognize them on the street. I would probably choose Kim Clijsters.

Martina Hingis or Anna Kournikova - I wouldn't know whom to pick. On the one hand, Special K is pops with tennis fans and "admirers" but her stay in the tournament is unpredictable. Marti, you get someone who's just as outgoing as Special K but probably doesn't attract the numbers, yet will most likely remain in the draw longer. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Venus Williams or Serena Williams - I would not want to be the tournament director who has to decide between these two. On the one hand, Venus is a multiple Slam champion an pops with the fans. Serena is also popular but is more outgoing. Tough pick. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Jelena Dokic or Elena Dementieva - With all the controversy both have caused with the comments they've made, I'd be hesitant to decline either. <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> However, I think more people know Dokic due to Damir. On the other hand, Elena needs a breakthrough tournie win. What to do? For the sake of the tournament, I'd probably pick Jelena Dokic.

Lindsay Davenport or Jennifer Capriati - Hmmm. Both are popular Americans. They are No. 1 and No. 2 in the world. Lindsay is probably perceived as more shy, but hasn't really ever refused to help promote an event or work with kids. Jennifer always seems keen to help promote events and work with kids too. Based on media exposure, I think Jennifer has the edge on this one. Her name alone conjures up a lot of images, even for people who aren't necessarily tennis fans. I'd probably go with Jennifer Capriati.

Arantxa Sanchez Vicario or Conchita Martinez - While both have their share of fans, it's very similar to the Kim or Justine story. Arantxa burst onto the scene first. Conchita worked her way up later. Arantxa seems more outgoing too. I'd go with Arantxa Sanchez Vicario

Monica Seles or Steffi Graf - If it's 1995, Monica would have the edge. Everybody wanted to see Monica again after a long absence. But Steffi won three of the Slams that year and really proved to be the best player overall. Both seem to be equally popular with fans. However, I'd go with Monica Seles simply because she appears more outgoing than Steffi.

Mary Pierce or Amelie Mauresmo - Although her ranking is shot to pieces and she's been out of the game for a long while, a glamourous, newsmaking Grand Slam champion like Mary probably has it over a talented newsmaking Amelie. Still, would you put your money on a player making a comeback, or a player who is a current Top Tenner and phenomenal talent? I'd probably go for Mary Pierce.

Martina Navratilova or Chris Evert - In their heyday, Chris seemed the more popular of the two with the fans. Both are legends and would probably both reach the final if they were both entered, but since I can only pick one of them, I'd go with Chris Evert in her heyday because she was the more popular.