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Szymanowski
Jan 24th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Just thought i'd bring up this point since there's so much controversy about drugs in sport in general, and tennis has had its fair share; Coria, Rusetski, Chela, Kuznetsova etc.

There are ways in which a player can consume a 'performance enhancing substance' other than intentionally taking it to give them a pperformance advantage. The most common seems to be through medicine, as in the case of Kuznetsova. Rusetski was scandalously given nandralone as part of suppliments given to him by ATP TRAINERS!!! For a player like Greg, this could so nearly have finished off his career, though in truth, he probably came back a stronger player than he was before. So my question is, if tommorow Sharapova was to fail a drugs test, would you guys believe her? If she was to miss a test like the Greek sprinters at the Olympics would you put her down as using drugs?

Many people seem to have developed the idea that 'they're al using it' but what has happened to innocent until proven guilty in this sport? In Rusetski's case, how did he come so close to a ban when is seems very likely he did nothing wrong? Why has the sport adopted the attitude of guilty by association? Those who actually are using drugs and are not called up for tests must be laughing - it makes a mockery of the system, presumably those in power think a tougher approach will stop drugs cheats, but until you can test every single player, every match, for every banned substance, I'm afraid you can't enforce it correctly.

I don't know what the solution to this should be. Just lift the ban? Of course not. Tennis is about a sense of personal achievement. If a player takes different suppliments should they really be allowed to come out on top? I guess what I'm saying is that they cannot have such harsh punishments when the tests do not allow for medicines and sports drinks etc. and the wrong people may have such devestating blows to their careers.

Szymanowski
Jan 27th, 2005, 11:07 PM
dudes, somebody post here, or i'll have to delete it as an unsuccesful thread :sad:

or just use it as a thread to yell abuse at me :D

then at least it'll be used 4 sumthing :D :lol: :) :lol: :) :lol: :D

Andy Mac
Jan 27th, 2005, 11:18 PM
i love drugs!
and maria sharapova!

Andy Mac
Jan 27th, 2005, 11:19 PM
there that better my man?

Marcova
Jan 27th, 2005, 11:55 PM
i love drugs!
and maria sharapova!
Would you rate her better or worse than illegal substances?

Andy Mac
Jan 28th, 2005, 12:14 AM
pfff she is my number 1 drug..

Edward.
Jan 28th, 2005, 06:16 AM
This thread is unsuccessful because it is too general and has nothing to do with Maria.

Post it in the Kuznetsova forum, and it will surely gain plenty of replies.

Szymanowski
Jan 28th, 2005, 08:27 AM
there that better my man?
That's much better m8

but i think its time to delete the thread....

but i've 4gotten how to, can sum1 help please?!! :confused:

lakan kildap
Jan 28th, 2005, 09:05 AM
I think it would be better if the Olympic body would organize a tournament where athletes can openly use drugs, without that counting as an offense. Drug use will not only be permitted, it will even be encouraged, with doctors standing by. Say, set up a tournament in China or East Germany (ooops, there is no more East Germany) where all the world's 100 meter sprinters are welcome, although obviously they have to go through qualifying rounds until there are only eight left for the final. All throughout the stages and rounds, the participants can eat any steroid, insulin, ephedrine, THG, HGH, EPO they want, openly, and they can declare it (it will be assumed they did, anyway, since the drug use is permitted, encouraged even).

It's like a race among tricked cars. You know they're all turbo or nitro boosted. Or like Mr. Universe, where we know every bodybuilder is using 'roids.

Then we will note the times, then compare these against a subsequent tournament where all participants are prohibited from using any drug, and will be strictly monitored, too. Preferably, the same guys who ran in the "Drug Games" would participate in the "Clean Games" so we can tell how much drugs really improve performance.

Andy Mac
Jan 28th, 2005, 07:53 PM
holy crap....AND THE GOD OF LONG ASS GOOD POINT POSTS HAS REIGNETH UPON US ONCE MORE!

Josh B.
Jan 28th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Drugs are bad. M'KAY!

faust
Jan 29th, 2005, 02:18 AM
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practice makes perfect so why use drugs?!

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Lemonskin.
Jan 29th, 2005, 04:44 AM
When was Coria accused of taking drugs?

Edward.
Jan 29th, 2005, 11:30 AM
When was Coria accused of taking drugs?

He was banned for a year for taking a banned substance.

Apparently, his trainers accidentally contaminated some nutritional pills he was taking.

Szymanowski
Jan 29th, 2005, 03:06 PM
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practice makes perfect so why use drugs?!

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what is perfect? shots can always be hit harder, more muscles can be developed, fitness levels can be raised, and, not practicing gives you more time!

so many people unfortunately take drugs

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Jan 29th, 2005, 11:08 PM
This thread is unsuccessful because it is too general and has nothing to do with Maria.

Post it in the Kuznetsova forum, and it will surely gain plenty of replies.


You stole the words from my mouth... well said eddy....

Marcova
Jan 30th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Apparently, his trainers accidentally contaminated some nutritional pills he was taking.
It is the most common way accidental contamination can take place.

lakan kildap
Jan 31st, 2005, 04:29 AM
holy crap....AND THE GOD OF LONG ASS GOOD POINT POSTS HAS REIGNETH UPON US ONCE MORE!

what can I do? In my browser it says "post long reply" :D. I try to be a good forum member by following instructions.

faust
Jan 31st, 2005, 09:00 AM
what can I do? In my browser it says "post long reply" :D. I try to be a good forum member by following instructions.


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