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T-T
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:06 AM
I'm a bit appalled at the bounciness of the AO 2005 courts. I've never seen balls bounce that high and players reach so many otherwise unreachable drops. I like slow courts, but this is exaggerated: courts shouldn't be trampolines either.

Dan23
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:15 AM
As long as its consistant I have no problem with the bounce :)
It makes for some really interesting rallies - see the Hewitt vs Blake match yesterday

volta
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:18 AM
yeah the balls go so high but Patty said that the courst are a bit faster . estrange

T-T
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:52 AM
Turns out to be a nightmare for volleyers. Poor Taylor Dent didn't stand a chance. Agassi :rocker2:

Lemonskin.
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:54 AM
Alicia's serve seems to go well on it, especially her big bouncers and kickers.

volta
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:32 PM
its strange. Smashnova will use it against Vee today she will bounce those balls HIGH to keap Vee in the line i think that Vee can use this match to "train" her forehand and her power as she used it in Berlim last year

T-T
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:36 PM
I agree it can be a fun surface, but boy some players will miss it when they're back on real concrete.

hilde26
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:41 PM
The friction of the court affects the horizontal bounce of the ball. So for Rebound Ace the more sand you put in it, the slower the ball will travel after bouncing.
Then there's the vertical bounce of the ball which is affected by the stiffness of the surface. The harder the surface the higher the ball will bounce.
Officials at Melbourne Park insist they have made the courts faster this year by altering both factors.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/tennis/features/newsid_4161000/4161125.stm

T-T
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:46 PM
Cool info... well then I guess there's a tad too much sand. Some balls that should die bounce back at net height.

skanky~skanketta
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:46 PM
why is it appalling???:confused: i mean, it strange thats about it. why the hate for the extra bounce?rallies last longer and it tests the stamina of the players.

2284
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:46 PM
yeah the balls go so high but Patty said that the courst are a bit faster . estrange

The outside courts are a bit faster than last year, but still 20-30% slower than 2000. Rod Laver is slow as piss after the court was layed so it was like playing uphill at one end. It had to be re-surfaced a few weeks before the tournament

volta
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:47 PM
The outside courts are a bit faster than last year, but still 20-30% slower than 2000. Rod Laver is slow as piss after the court was layed so it was like playing uphill at one end. It had to be re-surfaced a few weeks before the tournament
oh i got it now thanks :worship:

2284
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:48 PM
By the way, Jim Courier and John Alexander were discussing the court speed tonight...more people to add to the list of who wants faster courts

skanky~skanketta
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:52 PM
i dont understand it. i mean wimbledon and USO are fast, let there be 2 slow courts tto balance it out. geezz!i've heard people complain that the slices dont work cuz the bounces and that its unfair because it hurts those who use the slice as a weapon. the same can be said about the clay cuz it blunts power and some players rely on power to win matches.

T-T
Jan 21st, 2005, 01:00 PM
Yes, slices are hampered but most of all volleys. You really have to take ALL the speed out of it to make a volley winner on this surface.

Again, it's not the speed I find disturbing - I like slow courts - it's the 'bounciness'. High bounces serve nobody right.

moby
Jan 21st, 2005, 01:03 PM
The harder the surface the higher the ball will bounce.
The courts must be made of diamonds then. :p

I admit that I was rather shocked by the high bounces too. I swear I saw Peng Shuai hitting normal (not topspin) serves that "kicked" up above Venus' head. :eek:

its strange. Smashnova will use it against Vee today she will bounce those balls HIGH to keap Vee in the line i think that Vee can use this match to "train" her forehand and her power as she used it in Berlim last year
Forehand? You mean overheads from the baseline. ;) Actually much of how Rebound Ace works depends on technique. I read that if you hit your volleys and slices "firmly enough" they will still stay low. There is a reason why many people consider it to be the fairest surface.

mboyle
Jan 21st, 2005, 02:14 PM
It is sooo stupid. The tournaments keep trying to emulate clay courts instead of making the hard courts very very fast, as they should be.

volta
Jan 21st, 2005, 02:26 PM
It is sooo stupid. The tournaments keep trying to emulate clay courts instead of making the hard courts very very fast, as they should be.
exactly ;)

peanuts
Jan 21st, 2005, 03:31 PM
I like slow courts, but this is exaggerated: courts shouldn't be trampolines either.
:lol: somehow i find that to be quite funny. i've noticed the high bouce during alicia's match against nakamura. the poor girl has to practically leapt in the air to hit the ball. i know she's a small girl but it was evident the ball was really kicking way high.

in gaudio's match he hit a particularly good drop shot which somehow managed to bounced higher (than one would expect) and was eventually returned for the winner.

Emptiness
Jan 21st, 2005, 03:43 PM
Atleast its more forgiving on the players bodies than hardcourts.

Unless they bounce so hard they bounce something out of place... http://www.imagelink.org/id38505.gif

R&J
Jan 21st, 2005, 06:11 PM
As long as its consistant I have no problem with the bounce :)
It makes for some really interesting rallies - see the Hewitt vs Blake match yesterday

I agree, I love the slower courts :yeah:

Almalyk
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:21 PM
I like slower courts also - there are already 2 fast - W and US , therefore I am happt to have 2 slower courts conducive to long interesting rallies.

LefandePatty
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:29 PM
I like slower courts also - there are already 2 fast - W and US , therefore I am happt to have 2 slower courts conducive to long interesting rallies.

me too

T-T
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:21 AM
I like slow courts too, but the Johansson-Agassi match, for instance, made clear how ridiculously high the balls are bouncing. It's not the speed of the courts that's disturbing, it's the elasticity.

Blistering serves are even harder to return when they bounce up above your head like if they were genuine smashes. I think it's horrible. Johansson made something like thirty aces in one set. Agassi couldn't even reach the height of the bounce.

G1Player2
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:24 AM
Rebound Ace is not nearly as slow as some of you make it out to be...