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casino
Jan 19th, 2005, 02:24 PM
Yes, I know that it was a "negative" story. However everyone now knows that it was false and that she's innocent. So what good came out of it? Let's see. She was seen as one of the most boring top players (perhaps in the history of the game). Fans didn't care about her, in fact she even complained about how she gets no attention, she basically was seen as this boring player that nobody even cares that much to see. Even the US OPen win didn't help.

But now, because of this story, everyone knows her a lot more, photographers are there on her matches, fans are there, everyone is talking about her, she's actually now seen as a "personality" like the other top players. And all those people know that it was a false rumor, so they will become supporters or at least follow her career and know about her a little more. This was a blessing in disguize in my opinion. There were a couple of days of suffering, but on the long run, she will gain from this because everyone knows she's innocent and she's now seen as a STAR.

Before, the average fan would have said "Kuznestova vs Serena? bah, who cares about Kuznetsova she's so boring, this is not interesting". Now they will say "Oh it's Kuznetsova vs Serena, interesting match". Let's face it, before this incident 99% of people didn't give a damn about Kuznetsova. But now she's become popular. Her wish has come true.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Sveta isn't looking for "celebrity".
She wants to be known as a great champion.
That's what she's working towards.
All this media nonsense doesn't bother her.
She knows she did nothing wrong.
She's won 9 straight matches at the majors.
Her goal is to keep that streak going.

casino
Jan 19th, 2005, 03:37 PM
I agree with myself! :worship:

pinkfrog
Jan 19th, 2005, 03:43 PM
I agree with goldenlox, Sveta is the type of player that likes flying under the radar.

casino
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:37 PM
I agree with goldenlox, Sveta is the type of player that likes flying under the radar.

Then she shouldn't be jealous and bitch about why Sharapova, Dementieva and Myskina get more attention than her, like she did a few days ago in an interview.

pinkfrog
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:58 PM
I think she's more upset about the lack of praise from Russia compared to what the other three get. I think it really bothered her she didn't get a call from the president and sharapova and myskina both heard from him after their wins.

JonBcn
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:06 PM
I disagree, casino. Mud sticks, and unfortunately all sponsors care about is that she was involved in a drug scandal (even a ridiculous one) and her name is associated with such things, and they are unlikely to invest in her.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:08 PM
Then she shouldn't be jealous and bitch about why Sharapova, Dementieva and Myskina get more attention than her, like she did a few days ago in an interview.She never said anything like that. Sveta doesn't care at all about that.
She was just on the December cover of Ace magazine.
Sveta has lost 4 games in 2 matches.
Anything she wants to say, she does it with her racket.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:10 PM
I disagree, casino. Mud sticks, and unfortunately all sponsors care about is that she was involved in a drug scandal (even a ridiculous one) and her name is associated with such things, and they are unlikely to invest in her.In the U.S., this is not even news.
Sveta is the US Open champion. And she's going to be fine with Madison Avenue.
This is only a story in Australia and Belgium.

veryborednow
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:29 PM
She was seen as one of the most boring top players (perhaps in the history of the game)
And by history of the game, the history that you know ... say, since Jan 2005 :confused:

GL, the story has made women's tennis actually be in UK newspapers outside of Wimbledon and Sharapova, which is quite impressive.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:53 PM
In the U.S., it's not a story at all.
What's important is that Sveta is playing well, and her draw is very friendly until the QF, where Sharapova is struggling.
So we could see Sveta vs. the Amelie/Serena winner.

wipeout
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:53 PM
It was certainly good for Alicia Molik who gained a lot of respect from fans for standing up for Svetlana. Just how cool was buying up all the newspapers in the store and throwing them in the garbage? :yeah:

alfajeffster
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:18 PM
I disagree, casino. Mud sticks, and unfortunately all sponsors care about is that she was involved in a drug scandal (even a ridiculous one) and her name is associated with such things, and they are unlikely to invest in her.
That's so true. Just look how they treated the West German Women's Swim Team after their fiasco at the olympics back in the 70s. Maybelline and Max Factor immediately dropped all their contracts...

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Svetlana will not be hurting financially.
She won $1 million dollars in NYC, and gave the check to her parents.
She got another check for $100,000 the next day. For her doubles.

griffin
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:29 PM
In the U.S., this is not even news.
Sveta is the US Open champion. And she's going to be fine with Madison Avenue.
This is only a story in Australia and Belgium.

Don't know where you are or what papers you read, but this had been in the Boston Globe twice - the Globe usually ignores tennis - and neither story/blurb mentioned that what she tested positive for is perfectly legal out of competition. It's news.

Fact is, a good chunk of the people who do know about this scandal either a) don't know she's been cleared or b) know she was cleared technically but still think something's fishy and suspect she really isn't totally clean. (don't take my word for it, read the threads).

And now a good chunk of people who really knew nothing about Sveta now only know her as the "girl who tested positive" - a designation that will not die with the larger story (commentators still bring up the Hingis/Mauresmo dust up for Oz '99).

I hope for her sake, that this does not affect her tennis. But this is not "good" for her. Granted, "Madison Avenue" wasn't interested in her at all in the first place, so you could argue it can't make the situation any worse, but you certainly can't argue that it helps.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Only people who follow tennis closely even know about this.
The average sports fan has no knowledge of this.
In the U.S., Nightline did a whole show about Lance Armstrong doing steroids.
And no one cared.
If you're in Boston, go ask a football or baseball fan about tennis.
None of them will know about this story.

griffin
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Only people who follow tennis closely even know about this.
The average sports fan has no knowledge of this.
In the U.S., Nightline did a whole show about Lance Armstrong doing steroids.
And no one cared.
If you're in Boston, go ask a football or baseball fan about tennis.
None of them will know about this story.

Saying people don't care about tennis (even if you're not iin Boston, with the Pats in the playoffs) is not the same as saying "this is not news." Or that people who have no idea there's even a such thing as an "Australian Open" are not going to notice news about doping - as I said, one of the sad things about this whole mess is now people who knew nothing about tennis or Kuznetsova, now "know" about her but only in the context of this story.

Of course it won't make a difference with people who don't care about or follow tennis at all - they're not an issue anyway - but it is going to hurt with the people who do follow tennis, however marginally.

I'm not saying it's fair, or right, but this does hurt her.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:52 PM
It doesn't hurt her, because she did nothing wrong.
She won't be asked about it very often, because the tennis media already know it was a cold medicine before an exhibition.
Just because you read some nuts in GM, that means nothing.
Sveta was tested all year, and there was never a positive.

What's important is that Sveta is playing well.
And she has a great draw to the semis.
Especially with Maria struggling.

Natasc
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Well, Sveta was loking for some publicity, and now she got
Reading her comments about Sharapova and she saying about the russina president talk to Nastya and Lena, you can see that she's realy jealous

But what peoples said hum...."Speak well or speak badly, but speak about me"

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Sveta is not looking for publicity. After she won the US Open, she flew for 24 hours to Bali, to win a Tier III.
She could have stayed in NYC to do media. Like Federer did.
Sveta doesn't want to do a lot of media.

And like I said - only tennis junkies know about this.
And they know Sveta did nothing wrong.

griffin
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:17 PM
It doesn't hurt her, because she did nothing wrong.


I never said she did :)

Believe it or not, not EVERYONE in GM is a nut - some are actual tennis fans - and not everyone who isn't convinced that Sveta is wholly innocent belongs to the Resident Fruitloop Club. I'll be happy (for Sveta's sake) to be proven wrong, but I do think the doping thing is going to stick to her.

itzhak
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Svetlana will be very succesful- her draw is now quiet easy until the 1/4 final, and there according to the draw she'll supose to meet Masha, but i have feeling that Sharapova will be out of the competition before that. thus svetlana could reach to the semis and from there anyone could do it.

alfajeffster
Jan 19th, 2005, 08:02 PM
I never said she did :)

Believe it or not, not EVERYONE in GM is a nut - some are actual tennis fans - and not everyone who isn't convinced that Sveta is wholly innocent belongs to the Resident Fruitloop Club. I'll be happy (for Sveta's sake) to be proven wrong, but I do think the doping thing is going to stick to her.
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to griffin again."

P.S.- I'm a card-carrying member of the Fruitloop Club, and even have a rainbow strip across the back of my car, just to advertise the fact...:lol:

cellophane
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:09 PM
I disagree, casino. Mud sticks, and unfortunately all sponsors care about is that she was involved in a drug scandal (even a ridiculous one) and her name is associated with such things, and they are unlikely to invest in her.
Yeah, but the media also love "the innocent victim comes out on top" kind of stories, so that could be a good thing wrt sponsors. See Salé-Pelletier - although I don't really care to go there for the 25723564306537603th time :tape: - yeah, it's a different sport and a different scenario that doesn't involve drugs, but still...

flyingmachine
Jan 19th, 2005, 10:57 PM
And by history of the game, the history that you know ... say, since Jan 2005 :confused:

GL, the story has made women's tennis actually be in UK newspapers outside of Wimbledon and Sharapova, which is quite impressive.
I read one of the newspapers about her yesterday. :o