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patricio
Jan 5th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Tie to be played Thursday January 6th.

1 - Women's Singles

Gisela Dulko (ARG) vs. Anna Lena Groenenfeld (GER) :rolleyes:

No head to head history

2 - Guillermo Coria (ARG) vs. Tommy Haas (GER) ;)

No head to head history

3 - Dulko / Coria (ARG) vs. Groenenfeld / Haas (GER) :wavey:

Mor
Jan 5th, 2005, 08:51 PM
go ALG and haas!!!

SilK
Jan 5th, 2005, 09:00 PM
I wanna predict. So I Do... I'd say... Dulko over Groenefeld, Haas over Coria, and Dulko/Coria over Groenefeld/Haas! :D

Huntress555
Jan 5th, 2005, 11:00 PM
The womens singles will be very interesting, none of them have won a singles yet, have they??
I'm not sure about Haas over Coria, I like they way Coria's been playing! But yeah ok ...Haas over Coria. Doubles is a close call, but Dulko is just on fire in the doubles, so...dulko/Coria over Groenefeld/Haas.

Mor
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:07 AM
Anna-Lena will win in three sets!!! I feel it!!!!!!!!1 hehe

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 06:46 AM
I hope Argentina wins it 3-0 :wavey:

Marcus1979
Jan 6th, 2005, 07:37 AM
Coria can take pace of the ball and frustrate the power brokers.

Look at Safin.

I wonder if Argentina could win 3-0

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:40 AM
Games just started :)

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:40 AM
Anna serving 0-0

0-15 Gisela forehand winner
0-30 Anna forehand long
15-30 Gisela return out
30-30 Gisela forehand out
40-30 ACE
Game GER Gisela netted backhand

1-0

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:44 AM
Anna-Lena has the chance to surprise Gisela. Her match against Nastya was closer than I thought ...
Tommy will beat Guillermo, he's on fire after he defeated Safin and Sanguinetti (2 of his unloved rivals)
in doubles I think ARGENTINA will defeat the unbeaten doub-team. So it'll all depend on the first singles match. Please win it Anna-Lena !!! :yeah:

Gisela~vs~ALG *0-1 Deuce : fight Anna-Lena !!!!

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:48 AM
c'mon ALG, breaaaaaaaaak her !!!!!!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:48 AM
Go Argentina!!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:49 AM
Gisela serving 0-1

15-0 Anna forehand out
30-0 Anna netted forehand
30-15 DF
30-30 Gisela netted volley
30-40 Gisela netted forehand:mad:
Deuce Service winner
Adv GER Anna backhand winner
Deuce Anna forehand long, good rally
Adv GER Anna forehand winner
Deuce Anna netted volley
Adv GER Anna forehand winner
Deuce Anna backhand long
Adv ARG Service winner
Game Argentina, Anna return out

1-1

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Tough first sevice to Gisela, but yay she holds!!!

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:50 AM
*Gisela 1-1 :( how many bps missed ???? :fiery:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:52 AM
Anna serving 1-1

0-15 Anna netted backhand
0-30 Gisela forehand winner
15-30 Gisela return long
30-30 Gisela return long
40-30 Service winner
Game GER Gisela backhand out wide

2-1

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:53 AM
:( Come on Gisela!!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:53 AM
Tough first sevice to Gisela, but yay she holds!!!
Gisela is not serving quite good today

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:53 AM
Anna-Lena is still too impulsive and impatient. Her unexperience has to be decreased this year ...

but Anna-Lena holds 2-1* after 00-30 :D

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:56 AM
Anna serving 1-1

0-15 Anna netted backhand
0-30 Gisela forehand winner
15-30 Gisela return long
30-30 Gisela return long
40-30 Service winner
Game GER Gisela backhand out wide

2-1
:worship: :worship: :worship:

thanks LucasArg for the detailed pt-by-pt coverage, you're watching Tennis Channel ?

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:57 AM
Duece again on Giselas serve!

Coetzer Fan
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:58 AM
win this ALG !!! :D :kiss:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:59 AM
Gisela serving 1-2

15-0 Service winner
15-15 Anna forehand winner
15-30 Gisela forehand out
30-30 Anna backhand out
40-30 Anna forehand out
Deuce Anna forehand winner
Adv ARG Gisela backhand crosscourt winner, amazing point
Deuce Gisela forehand long
Adv ARG ACE
Game ARG Anna backhand out

2-2

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:59 AM
Gisela is not serving quite good today
Are u still so confident that Gisela wins this one easily ? Me not. Goooooooo Anna-Lena ! ;)

Damn, take her serve ! :(

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:59 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship:

thanks LucasArg for the detailed pt-by-pt coverage, you're watching Tennis Channel ?
no, TyC Sports in Argentina.

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:00 AM
Anna serving 2-2


15-0 Gisela return long
30-0 ACE
40-0 Anna volley winner
Game GER Gisela netted return

3-2

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:02 AM
Are u still so confident that Gisela wins this one easily ? Me not. Goooooooo Anna-Lena ! ;)

Damn, take her serve ! :(
Of course I am, I believe Anna has a great serve and she hits the ball very hard, but i wonder how much gas is on her tank right now.:p

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:02 AM
no, TyC Sports in Argentina.
you lucky one ...
no more tennis on German TV since Steffi has left :fiery:
just wintersports on Eurosport, ARD and ZDF. grrrrrrrrr

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:04 AM
*00-30 again :p

take it, ALG, pls, take that damn break ! *00-40 yes :D

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:06 AM
uaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Deuce after *00-40

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:07 AM
Gisela serving 2-3


0-15 Gisela netted forehand
0-30 Gisela netted forehand:mad:
38% of 1st serve for Gisela
0-40 Gisela backhand long:rolleyes:
15-40 Gisela forehand winner, big serve
30-40 Anna netted return
Deuce Gisela forehand winner:angel:
Adv GER Gisela netted forehand
Deuce Service winner
Adv ARG Anna backhand long
Game ARG Anna forehand long

3-3:p

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:08 AM
omg Anna-Lena: if she loses this match, it will be here in the beginning ...
*2-3 *00-15

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Anna serving 3-3


0-15 Anna forehand long
0-30 Anna netted backhand, great rally
15-30 Gisela return out wide
15-40 Gisela forehand winner
Game ARG Gisela forehand winner

3-4

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:13 AM
Go Gisela!!! Now just hold on to your own service!!!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:14 AM
Gisela serving 4-3 with new balls

15-0 Gisela forehand winner
30-0 Gisela backhand winner
40-0 ACE:)
Game ARG ACE:eek:

5-3

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:14 AM
Sounds like shes picked up her game :)

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:16 AM
Sounds like shes picked up her game :)
and unexperience is banging into ALG's game again, pffff ...

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:19 AM
Anna serving 3-5

0-15 Gisela forehand winner
15-15 Gisela netted return
15-30 Gisela return winner
30-30 Anna backhand winner
30-40 Anna backhand out long
Deuce ACE (the TV shows the ball out):mad:
Adv ARG Anna netted backhand
missed the points

Game set ARG 6-3:bounce:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:20 AM
Sounds like shes picked up her game :)
Yes she did, she is smacking winners all over the court, and is making Anna Lena run, and she is pretty heavy IMO.

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:22 AM
Anna serving 3-5

0-15 Gisela forehand winner
15-15 Gisela netted return
15-30 Gisela return winner
30-30 Anna backhand winner
30-40 Anna backhand out long
Deuce ACE (the TV shows the ball out):mad:
Adv ARG Anna netted backhand
missed the points

Game set ARG 6-3:bounce:
now it'll will slip away from Anna-Lena ...
Gise seems to have diminished her UEs.

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:25 AM
bp again for ALG but meaningless ...

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:25 AM
Gisela serving 6-3 1-0


15-0 Gisela backhand winner
30-0 Gisela forehand winner
30-15 Gisela forehand out
30-30 Gisela netted forehand
40-30 Gisela forehand winner
Deuce Gisela forehand long
Adv GER Anna smash winner
Game GER Anna return winner
1-1:mad:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Anna serving 3-6 1-0


15-0 Gisela forehand long
30-0 Gisela forehand out wide
40-0 Service winner
Game GER ACE

2-0

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:28 AM
hooold Anna-Lena ;)

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:29 AM
if Anna could take another brk the set should be hers. Focus now !

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:31 AM
Gisela serving 6-3 0-2

0-15 Anna forehand winner
0-30 Gisela volley long
15-30 Anna forehand long
30-30 Service winner
30-40 Anna backhand winner
Game GER Anna return winner

0-3:fiery:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:34 AM
Anna serving 3-6 3-0

15-0 Gisela backhand long
30-0 Anna forehand winner
40-0 ACE
Game GER Gisela return out

4-0:(

venusfan
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:34 AM
5:30 AM on the East Coast in NY turned on the tv and as always switch to tennis channel.. wow, live tennis, I guess new tennis season is on.. anyway, what a boring match.

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:34 AM
AnnaL has her winners again ...

hoooooold, girl, take a *4-0 lead

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:35 AM
uaaaaah again, 3 bps for Gise *00-40 :smash:

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:36 AM
they changed the score 4-0* 00-30*

go AnnaL :bounce:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:36 AM
Gisela serving 6-3 0-4

15-0 Service winner
30-0 Anna netted backhand
40-0 Gisela passing winner
Game ARG Anna netted forehand

1-4:)

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:39 AM
plz be patient now & focus on first serve like in the last service game ! ;)

*00-15 omg

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Anna serving 3-6 4-1

0-15 Gisela return winner
15-15 Gisela return out
30-15 Gisela forehand long
40-15 Gisela return long
Game GER ACE

5-1

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:41 AM
This is crazy Geisel won first set 6-3!
And now Anna is winning second set 5-1, things sure do change quickly!! Come on Gisela, still good on Anna for holding her own!! She doesn't seem to inexperienced now?

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Gisela serving 6-3 1-5

0-15 Gisela forehand long
0-30 Anna smash winner, good rally
15-30 Anna return long, thank god Gise has a great 2nd serve
15-40 Gisela forehand long:rolleyes:
30-40 Service winner
Deuce Gisela forehand winner:p
Adv ARG Gisela forehand winner
Game ARG Gisela volley winner

2-5:)

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:46 AM
serve this set home, AnnaL ...
still a chance to win !

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:47 AM
c'mon AnnaL, pls focus ... *15-15

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:47 AM
help Tommy, push her !

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:48 AM
Anna serving 3-6 5-2

15-0 ACE(7th)
15-15 Anna backhand out wide
30-15 Anna volley winner
40-15 Gisela return out
Game set GER service winner

6-2

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:48 AM
2 sps :bounce:

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:48 AM
Should be an intersting third, both players seem to have their moments! Who can step up, is the question??

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:49 AM
Come on Gisela take the 3rd!!! :wavey:

SHe should play on Anna´s backhand and make her run!

Flo1330
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:49 AM
Vamos Gisela!!!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:52 AM
Gisela starts serving in the 3rd

15-0 Gisela backhand winner
30-0 Anna backhand long
missed the points

1-0 ARG

Coetzer Fan
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:53 AM
Go Anna-Lena !!! :D

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:54 AM
Anna serving 0-1

15-0 ACE
30-0 Gisela netted forehand
40-0 Gisela return out
Game GER Service winner

1-1

Coetzer Fan
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:56 AM
Go ALG break her. :kiss:

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Gisela serving 1-1


15-0 Gisela forehand winner
15-15 Anna backhand crosscourt winner
30-15 Gisela forehand winner
30-30 Anna forehand winner
30-40 Gisela netted forehand
Deuce Service winner
Adv ARG Gisela forehand winner
Deuce Gisela netted forehand
Adv ARG service winner
Deuce Gisela forehand long


I made a mistake, the game is still going:p

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 09:59 AM
Another duece on giselas serve, don't tell me shes struggling again :confused: :sad:

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:01 AM
c'mon AnnaL - this break would be marvellous ...

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:02 AM
bp goooooooooo AnnaL, fiiiiiiiiiiigth, run, run, run !

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Deuce
Adv ARG ACE (5th)
Deuce Anna volley winner
Adv GER Gisela backhand out
Deuce Anna return long
Adv GER Anna return winner
Deuce Gisela forehand winner
Adv GER Gisela netted volley
Game GER Gisela forehand out

1-2

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Come on Gisela , focus!!!

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:04 AM
she is back in the match ;) :p
brk yesssssssssssssss *2-1

hold Anna-Lena ! :D

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:06 AM
ooohhh :shrug:whats going on Gisela???

Flo1330
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:07 AM
Come on Gisela! The match is not over yet! I'm sure she can come back an win the match!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:08 AM
Anna serving 2-1

15-0 Anna forehand winner
30-0 Anna forehand winner
40-0 Anna backhand winner
40-15 Gisela return winner
Game GER Gisela netted backhand

3-1

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:08 AM
Anna serving 2-1

15-0 Anna forehand winner
30-0 Anna forehand winner
40-0 Anna backhand winner
40-15 Gisela return winner
Game GER Gisela netted backhand

3-1
:D :D :D

Flo1330
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:08 AM
LucasArg, where do you live in Buenos Aires? I studied at the UBA for five months in 2003! It was so nice! I love your country... ans the Argentineans a lot!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:09 AM
Gisela :( :sad: Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Gisela serving 1-3

15-0 Anna forehand out wide long
15-15 Gisela netted backhand
15-30 Gisela forehand long
30-30 Anna return long
30-40 Gisela netted backhand
Game GER Gisela netted forehand:fiery:

1-4

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:11 AM
another brk here Anna-Lena and this could be the best turn around so far in this short season ... 30-15* :D

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:13 AM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Flo1330
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Please keep fighting!

Flo1330
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Please keep fighting Gisela!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:14 AM
Anna serving 4-1

15-0 Gisela return out
30-0 Anna backhand winner
40-0 Service winner
40-15 Gisela forehand winner
Game GER Anna backhand winner

5-1:sad:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:14 AM
Gisela :help: *1-5

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:15 AM
5-1 to Anna! :eek:
C'mon Gisela!!!
Shall be an interesting mens match...

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:16 AM
*15-30 :scared:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:16 AM
ALG 2 mp :o :sad:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:17 AM
:sobbing: damn Gisela lost :crying2:

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:17 AM
2bps/mps Anna-Lena :D :D :D

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:17 AM
Gisela serving 1-5


0-15 Anna return winner
15-15 Anna backhand long
15-30 Gisela backhand long
15-40 DF:o
Game GER Gisela netted volley

Anna wins 3-6 6-2 6-1

Gisela did pretty well, her 1st serve was off the entire match, still she managed to win points only with her 2nd serve.

Congrats to Anna Lena, she is a very strong player, with a huge serve.

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Come on Guillermo!!!!!!! :bowdown: :hearts:

You must win now!!

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Now Guille is your turn! :wavey:

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:20 AM
:(!!! aaww Gisela, at least it wasn't straight sets!
COngrats to Anna, did very well! Obviously a very good player, a force to be reckoned with in the future!!
Coria vs Haas, should be very interesting!! GO CORIA :) it would be great if it was a live doubles match!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:20 AM
does Coria match start now and later?

Carsten
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:22 AM
ANNA-LENA :woohoo: :hug:

NOW TOMMY TAKE THE WIN :bounce:

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:23 AM
Gisela serving 1-5


0-15 Anna return winner
15-15 Anna backhand long
15-30 Gisela backhand long
15-40 DF:o
Game GER Gisela netted volley

Anna wins 3-6 6-2 6-1

Gisela did pretty well, her 1st serve was off the entire match, still she managed to win points only with her 2nd serve.

Congrats to Anna Lena, she is a very strong player, with a huge serve.
but she has to be more patient and has to lose weight to get faster, you're right (3-4 kilos would be fine but she has got that little extra since years, it's her standard)

But what a turn-around, Anna-Lena, BIG CONGRATULATIONS for this win ! :bounce: :banana: :hug: :worship: :woohoo: :worship: :hug: :banana:

GoDominique
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:24 AM
Nice win ALG :) but I wished Gisela would play better :o :(

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:29 AM
I thought she would win it in straight sets after Ana-Lena failed to take advantage out of the 7 bps in the geginning of the 1st set ....

LucasArg
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Coria vs Haas about to start...

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:41 AM
PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Guillermo!!!

daniela86
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:42 AM
gisela :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: she lost all her matches, i begin to worry for her, i hope she'll do better at hobart and oz open! :)
vamos guillermo and argentina!!!!! :worship: :worship: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D i want them to win this hopman cup!!! :)

patricio
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:00 AM
gisela :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: she lost all her matches, i begin to worry for her, i hope she'll do better at hobart and oz open! :)
vamos guillermo and argentina!!!!! :worship: :worship: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D i want them to win this hopman cup!!! :)
I saw the match and Gisela played actually the three matches way below her potential. She missed a lot, poor 1st serve % and no attitude at all. It looked as if she didnt care.

The fat girl was good hitting hard all the time though she couldnt run!

Really poor womens matches in Hopman this year.

patricio
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Coria / Haas *2/3

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:03 AM
I saw the match and Gisela played actually the three matches way below her potential. She missed a lot, poor 1st serve % and no attitude at all. It looked as if she didnt care.

The fat girl was good hitting hard all the time though she couldnt run!

Really poor womens matches in Hopman this year.
thanks for insulting our greatest hope ... :o
but she won so she couldn't be so awful :p

Steff_forever
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:04 AM
go Tommy, hold again !

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:08 AM
Come on Guillermo! You can do it!!! :bowdown:

livescores board doesn't work? :mad:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:13 AM
Coria *4-5

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:23 AM
Coria *5-6 deuce :scared: :(

Come on!!!!!!!!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:25 AM
WTF Haas sp on coria serve:mad:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Haas 7-5 :fiery::crying2::sad:

Coria was *5-6 40-15 b4 :armed:

Come on El Mago!!! :bowdown:

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:27 AM
Come on Coria !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:38 AM
*0-30 :scared: :amred:

Huntress555
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:42 AM
2-2 - on service :) come on coria!!

Purple_Llama
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Go Tommy! 7-5,3-2 :(

Purple_Llama
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Oh poo! Hes out

daniela86
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM
take the second set guillie el mago!!!! vamossssssssssssssssssss!!! :D

Purple_Llama
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Bye bye Oz & Germany :(

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Coria *3-2 :banana:

Purple_Llama
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:58 AM
lol Tommy has defaulted E.Dementieva ;)

Flo1330
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:06 PM
What happens? My live scoreboard doesn't work anymore. Is there a injury break?

patricio
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:42 PM
what happened?

Experimentee
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Haas retired so Coria won that singles match. Haas also retired from the doubles so Arg are in the final.
Too bad bc I think he would have won had he not been injured.

patricio
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Haas retired so Coria won that singles match. Haas also retired from the doubles so Arg are in the final.
Too bad bc I think he would have won had he not been injured.
Thanks Experimentee, I do think though that the fat girl from germany is the best!!!!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:55 PM
lol Tommy has defaulted E.Dementieva ;)

WTF :bolt: :bolt: why?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!??! :eek: