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Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:18 AM
well done alicia :)

GermanBoy
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:20 AM
Alicia, I am proud of ya! :worship:

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:20 AM
:hysteric: Well done Alicia but Dani stay patient! Keep on goin girl! :rocker2:

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:22 AM
very high quality first few games, daniela went off the boil a bit but alicia kept it up and was basically too good today. alicia hit 10 aces, 11 fh winners and 11 bh winners to only 17 ufe's and 1 df. dani fans might feel that she got a few bad calls but i watched the match and hawkeye proved that although the calls were very close they were usually correct.

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:23 AM
yea but what about those FOOT FAULTS!!!! AHH!

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:24 AM
yea they were very close but on most of them danis left foot was just touching the line. dani and her fans should b happy with the way she played

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:27 AM
what were Daniela's statistics??

*roddicksinme*
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:29 AM
congrats Alicia....revenge for your USO loss :D

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:29 AM
yea I am glad to hear that dani is playing well, I am very impressed by Alicia did she look satisfied by the win?

beauty_is_pink
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:31 AM
Alicia's serve were too much for Daniela, she couldnt break.

congrats Australia!

and Daniela and Dominik, kick ass in mixed! ;)

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:32 AM
yea she was pretty happy with the way she played, especially with her serve cos she knew she had to serve well 2 beat dani

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:33 AM
well good match girls :bigclap: Its all up to Dominik now! GO DOMINIK!!!!!!!!

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:34 AM
yea I am glad to hear that dani is playing well, I am very impressed by Alicia did she look satisfied by the win?

I followed the score line point by point and it looked to me like it may well be just another classic Dani choke, losing her serve quickly on critical games.

Hayato
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:36 AM
This was an interesting match, Daniela won more points on the baseline than Alicia, but Alicia's serve got her through :)

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:36 AM
she did have a BP in the second game to go up 2-0.. if she would of converted than she would of probably won the first set

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:37 AM
Dani might of choked a little but Alicia obviously was playing very well so lets not take anything away from Alicia :)

Hayato
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:37 AM
Daniela is just not confident enough.

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:37 AM
what were the statistics for Daniela?

Hayato
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:38 AM
yea but what about those FOOT FAULTS!!!! AHH!

the first one wasn't a footfault, but she did many in the next set.

KingA
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:40 AM
Alicia was playing good tennis! It was difficult for Daniela to break her with her powerful serves with variety, Daniela couldn't really read Alicia's serves!!!

Daniela, hmm..... after being broken in the first set, I felt like she started to play no-brain tennis!!! I guess she must have running out of ideas, just trying a bit of everything but they didn't go well at all, e.g. went to the net with a weak & short approach!!!???

Alicia is definitely going to do well this season if she is healthy!!! :D
Daniela.... Hmm.... still needs to do better!!! And don't put any expectations on her!!! ;)

cartmancop
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:40 AM
Good job Alicia! Keep up the good work!

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:41 AM
I really hope we can see better from dani. She reeeallly needs a good season :sad:

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:43 AM
I saw that match just then... Alicia played so well. I was so proud!!! She absolutely ripping her groundstrokes, and I was surprised at how agile she was. She ran down nearly everything Dani threw at her.

The collision with the umpires chair at 5-3 was worrying... I was so glad she was OK considering how she seems to get injured often.

Dani played very well too but couldn't challenge Alicia's serve, and made too many errors. And an unusually high number of foot faults. But it was good signs for 2005 from her I thought... maybe she was a bit unlucky to draw a player playing so unbelievably well.

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:44 AM
she did have a BP in the second game to go up 2-0.. if she would of converted than she would of probably won the first set
Don't be so sure... Alicia broke Dani twice in the first set.

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:46 AM
Yea I agree that breakpoint might have made the set longer but I dont think dani could win this Alicia was playing like a monster (in a good way:) )

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:49 AM
I saw that match just then... Alicia played so well. I was so proud!!! She absolutely ripping her groundstrokes, and I was surprised at how agile she was. She ran down nearly everything Dani threw at her.

The collision with the umpires chair at 5-3 was worrying... I was so glad she was OK considering how she seems to get injured often.

Dani played very well too but couldn't challenge Alicia's serve, and made too many errors. And an unusually high number of foot faults. But it was good signs for 2005 from her I thought... maybe she was a bit unlucky to draw a player playing so unbelievably well.

Well, with all due respect, do you expect a Molik fan from Sydney to do much more than sing the praises of Molik? I know from the live score that Dani dropped her serve in record time in one game, and quickly in another. Too bad I did not get to see the match myself, to decide if Alicia did not, at least to a degree, get a late Christmas present from Dani. But of course, for the player I for some reason cannot give up hope on yet, Christmas seems to run year round... :rolleyes:

JenFan75
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:02 AM
Good job Alicia...not a great way to start the year for Daniela though.

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:07 AM
Well, with all due respect, do you expect a Molik fan from Sydney to do much more than sing the praises of Molik? I know from the live score that Dani dropped her serve in record time in one game, and quickly in another. Too bad I did not get to see the match myself, to decide if Alicia did not, at least to a degree, get a late Christmas present from Dani. But of course, for the player I for some reason cannot give up hope on yet, Christmas seems to run year round... :rolleyes:
I wasn't berating Dani at all... in fact I said she played very well... And that if she can build on this performance that 2005 could be a good year for her... but Alicia was simply too good. Thats my objective AND subjective opinion.

switz
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:10 AM
Well, with all due respect, do you expect a Molik fan from Sydney to do much more than sing the praises of Molik? I know from the live score that Dani dropped her serve in record time in one game, and quickly in another. Too bad I did not get to see the match myself, to decide if Alicia did not, at least to a degree, get a late Christmas present from Dani. But of course, for the player I for some reason cannot give up hope on yet, Christmas seems to run year round... :rolleyes:

it is quite simple - they both played well until 3 all in both sets - molik raised her game and dani went down and therefore molik won.

you really can draw no conclusion about a match from watching a scoreboard. for all you know molik it 4 winners off her serve.

there was promise there for dani and if she just keeps getting better she will eventually get back to her top form.

molik's serve is really going to be hard for anyone to get onto.

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:14 AM
I wasn't berating Dani at all... in fact I said she played very well... And that if she can build on this performance that 2005 could be a good year for her... but Alicia was simply too good. Thats my objective AND subjective opinion.

Well, if she can stop folding during her critical service games, I`d say she would have something to build on. The live scores suggest she did just that... Maybe Alicia suddenly greatly accelerated her level at those junctures, but I strongly suspect it is just more typical Dani... In tennis, it is not always about how well you play as whole, but which points you play well on...

fOxYLiCiOuS
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:20 AM
Great match Alicia :D

Too strong!

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:21 AM
it is quite simple - they both played well until 3 all in both sets - molik raised her game and dani went down and therefore molik won.

you really can draw no conclusion about a match from watching a scoreboard. for all you know molik it 4 winners off her serve.

there was promise there for dani and if she just keeps getting better she will eventually get back to her top form.

molik's serve is really going to be hard for anyone to get onto.

Did you see the match? You write like you did... Those that report seeing it, that I have seen, are all in Australia so their objectivity is in question... As would even a Dani fan in the same place that chooses to peer through rose colored glasses... I drew no definite conclusions. But know enough to have very strong suspicions, based on the live scoreboard and history... Lets not get too excited about Dani just yet...

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:37 AM
Did you see the match? You write like you did... Those that report seeing it, that I have seen, are all in Australia so their objectivity is in question... As would even a Dani fan in the same place that chooses to peer through rose colored glasses... I drew no definite conclusions. But know enough to have very strong suspicions, based on the scoreboard and history... Lets not get too excited about Dani just yet...i think switz, ernie, levo and myself know a whole lot more about the match than u bcos we actually watched it. like we all said it was a high quality match and close at the beginning of each set but alicia managed to lift her game to win each set while dani folded, which is y she is number 13 in the world and dani is 30 something. plz note that -ernie- is raving about alicia's perfomance and he is an american dani fan.

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:47 AM
i think switz, ernie, levo and myself know a whole lot more about the match than u bcos we actually watched it. like we all said it was a high quality match and close at the beginning of each set but alicia managed to lift her game to win each set while dani folded, which is y she is number 13 in the world and dani is 30 something. plz note that -ernie- is raving about alicia's perfomance and he is an american dani fan.

Naturally, Mr. "Molik," ;) but Ernie is a big Dani optimist so praising Molik is the easiest route to save face. Others, like myself, wanting to stay grounded in reality, suspect this reflects more of the typical Dani, dropping her serve quickly on critical games...

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:49 AM
Always believe in my girl Dani thats me ;)

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:51 AM
ok im not gona fight anymore, i think u need a brain transplant though
well done alicia!!

slice
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:52 AM
great match from both IMO, especially the first couple of games of the first set like a few of u had said, but did anyone thing alicia was a bit off 2day compared to what she could do? i guess it was only the first match but well-played from both :)

SzavayFi
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:54 AM
Alicia off this match?? I find that amazing if true!

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:56 AM
great match from both IMO, especially the first couple of games of the first set like a few of u had said, but did anyone thing alicia was a bit off 2day compared to what she could do? i guess it was only the first match but well-played from both :)

Alicia does not need to be at her very best if Santa Claus is on the other side of the net... ;)

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:57 AM
great match from both IMO, especially the first couple of games of the first set like a few of u had said, but did anyone thing alicia was a bit off 2day compared to what she could do? i guess it was only the first match but well-played from both :)yea i didnt think her forehand was as good as usual and she wasnt coming into the net nearly enough. but she did what she had 2 :)

Hayato
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:00 AM
Alicia won this match, Daniela didn't lose it. I saw every point so i think i would know ;)

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:06 AM
Alicia won this match, Daniela didn't lose it. I saw every point so i think i would know ;)

And I am supposed to take your word for this? That and other viewers in Australia, Dani and Alicia fans? The few that make it to this board? :rolleyes:

switz
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:08 AM
if you want to think daniela played poorly then that is your perogative. she certainly did not play brilliantly and neither did molik IMO. it was a good quality match overall but molik simply raised her level when it counted and therefore she won.

Hayato
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:10 AM
And I am supposed to take your word for this? That and other viewers in Australia, Dani and Alicia fans? The few that make it to this board? :rolleyes:

Actually, i was going for both players because i am a fan of both. So get your facts straight before you start making accusations :rolleyes:

Chunchun
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:12 AM
:bigcry: :mad:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:14 AM
Actually, i was going for both players because i am a fan of both. So get your facts straight before you start making accusations :rolleyes:

A fan of each huh?? Well then that is a recipe for a double dose of bias.... :lol: Which can occur, by the way, without you even being conscious of it...

P.S. Wasn`t that you posting in the live score thread? If so, how close were you watching the match... :rolleyes:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:30 AM
if you want to think daniela played poorly then that is your perogative. she certainly did not play brilliantly and neither did molik IMO. it was a good quality match overall but molik simply raised her level when it counted and therefore she won.

I strongly suspect nerves got the best of her in critical service games, based on live scoring and her long history of such. If you read my posts you`ll find nothing more definite. I do not accept your interpretation. Would need to see a tape of those two games before drawing a conclusion.

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:39 AM
No you are wrong. Hantuchova played very well and she was beaten by a better player.

Sigh... Wrong about what? Suspecting she choked once again? Wrong about my unwillingness to accept at face value the interpretation of a handful of Australian viewers posting on the net? These are fundamental principles that should be learned in the first year of college if not sooner. Best get a grip on them too, are very much needed in the real world...

slice
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:02 AM
Sigh... Wrong about what? Suspecting she choked once again? Wrong about my unwillingness to accept at face value the interpretation of a handful of Australian viewers posting on the net? These are fundamental principles that should be learned in the first year of college if not sooner...

P.S. These red dots in my CP are disconcerting. Actually I have taught everyone here something valuable today, basic principles in critical thought, might save your necks one day...

actually, if you read through all these posts most of them are not that biased. me and Mr Molik both agreed that alicia did not play as well as she should have but she was clearly the better player of the two, and it does not matter that im australian in giving my views on the match, when hantuchova beat her at the U.S. open, i conceded that hantuchova played much better than alicia and today was the exact opposite, perhaps you should learn that alicia was the one that generated the break points and thus was able to win, like daniela did at the U.S. open...

and you are a hypocrite because you are saying that we are all biased simply coz most of us are australian, but you are clearly biased towards daniela and just cannot accept defeat... or just really bored :rolleyes: and your argument lacks the concept that perhaps we are just grateful for watching a tennis match in australia, which is a rarity, and were just giving a summary of what happened in it, regardless of who the players were :rolleyes:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:07 AM
I am talking about a tennis match here.
Not sure why you are bringing college into it.
You are wrong in thinking Hantuchova choked in her match.
You had no visual context in the match so you have no idea how the players reacted on court.


Yea, and I am supposed to believe you? :rolleyes: See this is lesson #1. May save your butt one day...

P.S. I think it is very possible she choked. Can`t let you re-invent my argument, sorry...

AK-DH Fan
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:14 AM
Yeah TFan, Rohin told us that she seemed very relaxed throughout the match. He never said( no one's said) she choked. Just believe them, they saw the match and I'm taking their word for it, and I'm a huge Daniela fan. And no, I don't want u to think I'm being obitmistic. I'm just going by what people who saw the the match say, regardless of who's a fan of who. And their all saying pretty much the same thing, both Alicia and Daniela fans alike :)

slice
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:15 AM
Yeah TFan, Rohin told us that she seemed very relaxed throughout the match. He never said( no one's said) she choked. Just believe them, they saw the match and I'm taking their word for it, and I'm a huge Daniela fan. And no, I don't want u to think I'm being obitmistic. I'm just going by what people who saw the the match say, regardless of who's a fan of who. And their all saying pretty much the same thing, both Alicia and Daniela fans alike :)

:)

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:16 AM
and you are a hypocrite because you are saying that we are all biased simply coz most of us are australian

This is how it goes all the time. You cannot handle the argument so you invent one you can handle. Real potential for bias is all that I have argued. I do not know you from Adam... Plus there is a small sampling of viewers here. Now you are trying to sell me the idea that you are not biased. Well, that is very interesting too... :lol:

Hayato
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:16 AM
Daniela even said that she was relaxed about the match and was going to have fun. She also said she has no goals and she was happy to play Alicia first off.

So, TFan1156, you really have got absolutely no idea :haha:

slice
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:23 AM
This is how it goes all the time. You cannot handle the argument so you invent one you can handle. Real potential for bias is all that I have argued. I do not know you from Adam... Plus there is a small sampling of viewers here. Now you are trying to sell me the idea that you are not biased. Well, that is very interesting too... :lol:


are you a complete fool? i can honestly say that my account of what happened in the match was not biased at all as a tennis-lover between two great players...

and it is obvious that you cannot handle your own argument as you have begun to attack a completely different angle from your original argument :)

anf if you are going to quote from me in the future, i'd prefer if you quoted the whole passage and not just a random sentence which you think is more suited to your own argument.

and btw, you are a dickhead, and yes, i admit i am completely biased in saying that :wavey:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:25 AM
Yeah TFan, Rohin told us that she seemed very relaxed throughout the match. He never said( no one's said) she choked. Just believe them, they saw the match and I'm taking their word for it, and I'm a huge Daniela fan. And no, I don't want u to think I'm being obitmistic. I'm just going by what people who saw the the match say, regardless of who's a fan of who. And their all saying pretty much the same thing, both Alicia and Daniela fans alike :)

Fans of either could easily be proned to rather not see Dani as choking as such reflects negatively on their player... Is interesting to me how those critical service games went so fast. She is famous for this... I`d need to see the tape, sorry, can`t take the word of a relative handful off the net. Is all open to interpretation and one can be biased without ever being conscious of it... :D

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:27 AM
are you a complete fool?

Oh yes, the last great stand of one out of ammunition... ;)

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:30 AM
Daniela even said that she was relaxed about the match and was going to have fun. She also said she has no goals and she was happy to play Alicia first off.

So, TFan1156, you really have got absolutely no idea :haha:

Haven`t we learned by now that what Daniela says and what she does are often not the same? Now where do I get some of those ROFL smilies?? ;)

slice
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:31 AM
Oh yes, the last great stand of one out of ammunition... ;)

again, only quoting a certain sentence of mine that suits your argument :)

have a nice life, and if you hadnt noticed, you are the only one disagreeing with the facts and actually want you to this match simply so you can see how wrong you have been so you can give each person who saw the match on this board an apology :)

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:33 AM
again, only quoting a certain sentence of mine that suits your argument :)

have a nice life, and if you hadnt noticed, you are the only one disagreeing with the facts and actually want you to this match simply so you can see how wrong you have been so you can give each person who saw the match on this board an apology :)

I thought you had waved bye bye... Relax, it`s all in good fun. It`s only a tennis board... :D

clonesheep
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:34 AM
That's sad. Dani is capable of beating Alicia and did so as recently as in 04 US Open. The way she did it, then, was to utilize variety of shots long and short to make Alicia run. As you know, Alicia is a powerful big girl but she doesn't move fast. So Dani won. Too bad it doesn't work this time.

AK-DH Fan
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:38 AM
Fans of either could easily be proned to rather not see Dani as choking as such reflects negatively on their player... Is interesting to me how those critical service games went so fast. She is famous for this... I`d need to see the tape, sorry, can`t take the word of a relative handful off the net. Is all open to interpretation and one can be biased without ever being conscious of it... :D

Yeah, but all of them? They all aren't biased, I mean no ones favoring anybody their all saying how the match went. Why do u think they all would say the same thing? I know, cuz the that's the way it happened. Yes, I would luv to see the match with my own eyes, and then make a decission, but that's not gonna happen, so(no coverage). So I have to believe what people tell me. I don't just believe what one person says (necesarily) but if many people like 5 or 6 people are all telling mw the same thing then. I have to believe them. Just as u should. Because u didn't see the match, just like me. In my opinon, it;s hard for me to speculate on something, I haven't seen.

And I know Dani known for that, but don't u think for once she didn't. Have some convidence in her, she's much more than a choker.

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:52 AM
Yeah, but all of them? They all aren't biased, I mean no ones favoring anybody their all saying how the match went. Why do u think they all would say the same thing? I know, cuz the that's the way it happened. Yes, I would luv to see the match with my own eyes, and then make a decission, but that's not gonna happen, so(no coverage). So I have to believe what people tell me. I don't just believe what one person says (necesarily) but if many people like 5 or 6 people are all telling mw the same thing then. I have to believe them. Just as u should. Because u didn't see the match, just like me. In my opinon, it;s hard for me to speculate on something, I haven't seen.

And I know Dani known for that, but don't u think for once she didn't. Have some convidence in her, she's much more than a choker.

Well, many fans of Dani are famous for not acknowledging it when she clearly folds, preferring to talk about her footwork, etc. Generally people are reluctant to acknowledge it when their player folds under pressure... And, once someone is in here embracing an unpopular perspective, naturally some will be proned to beef up their arguments, others to join in and counter it... Some are Molik fans... How often does a fan talk about how the other player choked when their player wins? No, I do not take 5 or 6 reports in here at face value... Once again, did not say she did choke, but suspect she did. Those two crucial service games went awful fast and we know Dani...

AlexB
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:57 AM
2 days into the new season and the battles on the message boards have resumed their fever pitch.....

Sam L
Jan 3rd, 2005, 07:00 AM
Stupid bitch Alicia. :mad:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 07:02 AM
2 days into the new season and the battles on the message boards have resumed their fever pitch.....

I hear you. I mean a guy cannot even post some suspicions, with some evidence, without others getting all hot and bothered... I guess the word fanatic (fan for short) is appropriate.... ;)

Sadka
Jan 3rd, 2005, 07:27 AM
Dani :(

Rohin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 09:09 AM
She didn't choke, but I would suggest she fell apart a tiny bit, she was calm on the outside but no doubt she lost that confidence a little bit..

And you cant say she choked because she never had control of the match

~ The Leopard ~
Jan 3rd, 2005, 09:15 AM
are you a complete fool?
Why do you ask? Of course he (or she) is.

From what I saw of the match, Dani played okay but Alicia showed some awesome form. Then again, I'm probably biased, too (afterall I'm a big fan of Dani as well as being Australian). In fact, anyone who was actually watching is obviously much less reliable than someone who was .... gasp ... "following the live scores". Perhaps we should shut up and just rely on the analyses of our betters such as TFan1Idiot. :rolleyes:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 09:25 AM
She didn't choke, but I would suggest she fell apart a tiny bit, she was calm on the outside but no doubt she lost that confidence a little bit..

And you cant say she choked because she never had control of the match

Depends on how you define choke. Are a lot of defintions around. If you read what I wrote it will be clear what I meant...

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 09:36 AM
Then again, I'm probably biased, too (afterall I'm a big fan of Dani as well as being Australian). In fact, anyone who was actually watching is obviously much less reliable than someone who was .... gasp ... "following the live scores". Perhaps we should shut up and just rely on the analyses of our betters such as TFan1Idiot. :rolleyes:

If you have such trouble reading then why should I have such faith in your ability to watch and interpret a tennis match? I have neither confirmed or denied anything about the match on this thread... :lol: Then, to dig your hole deeper, you confirm my suspicions, at least as far as yourself is concerned, by a admitting that you are "basied." And then proceed to call ME an idiot?? Leopard you are classic. But it is time to consider changing your spots.... :lol:

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 09:46 AM
TFan, you've been told dozens of times by different people that Alicia won by playing better than Dani... why can you not just accept it and move on?

Prizeidiot
Jan 3rd, 2005, 10:02 AM
I'd say there wasn't too much difference between them, the main damage was done by the serves. Alicia found some rhythm, Daniela couldn't read it, and lost confidence. She was thrown off a bit by foot faults. But yeah, she played alright, played a good all round game.

Played ok in the mixed as well, good hands, solid groundstrokes, but she just didn't close in at the net fast enough. That might've been the difference in that match.

~ The Leopard ~
Jan 3rd, 2005, 10:40 AM
Some people don't get sarcasm. Some people also don't know how to spell ... unless ... Hang on, hmmmmm "basied". Seems to be something to do with a fish. :scratch:

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 10:50 AM
I love that sport :p :cool:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 10:51 AM
Some people don't get sarcasm. Some people also don't know how to spell ... unless ... Hang on, hmmmmm "basied". Seems to be something to do with a fish. :scratch:

The spelling/typo police?? First time I have seen that in here. You have my compassion now...

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 11:03 AM
TFan, you've been told dozens of times by different people that Alicia won by playing better than Dani... why can you not just accept it and move on?

You and anyone else is free to move on whether I "accept it" or not. You know my position, well articulated throughout the thread. Though some tried to re-invent it...

DevilishAttitude
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:02 PM
New year the same Dani :rolleyes: zero confidence and was never really going to trouble Molik in Australia :o

moby
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:10 PM
@ TFan: I totally agree with you. Daniela choked the whole match away. Alicia did nothing and basically had all the games gifted to her. I especially concur on the parts about Daniela playing badly on her critical service games.

Oh, and by the way, I didn't watch the match either. Or follow live scoring. :retard:
But I bet you like my little bit of fiction analysis, because finally someone agrees with you. Happy now?

Mr_Molik
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:14 PM
:haha: :worship:

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:22 PM
@ TFan: I totally agree with you. Daniela choked the whole match away. Alicia did nothing and basically had all the games gifted to her. I especially concur on the parts about Daniela playing badly on her critical service games.

Oh, and by the way, I didn't watch the match either. Or follow live scoring. :retard:
But I bet you like my little bit of fiction analysis, because finally someone agrees with you. Happy now?
:haha: :worship:

~ The Leopard ~
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:29 PM
Hey, this has been educational. We've all been treated in this thread to an excellent ostensive definition of the word "pig-headed". :lol: :worship:

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:31 PM
TFan = :banghead: :p

Daniel
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:37 PM
Alicia :)

Dani :sad:

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:42 PM
Dan the Good luck man!!! :wavey: :hatoff:

Volcana
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:50 PM
IS there any chance of getting Dani's stats. The set scorea are a break and a break, which could indicate she played well except for three or four critical points. So 20 winners and 10 UEs is one thing, and 10 winners and 20 UEs is something else. Congrats to Molik for taking off this year where she left off last year. Took on Dani to have her as a first opponent.

moby
Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:06 PM
A 6-3 6-3 scoreline indicates that Alicia broke Daniela's serve at least 3 times. She must have broken Daniela either at the end of the first set or at the end of the second set.

greenfunkTHREE.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:12 PM
will daniela still play in the hopman cup? did the slovaks win?

Zhao
Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:28 PM
Alicia's serve is insane..she can even ace Hrbathy :eek: :worship:
how many female players can do that?? apart from venus whom managed to ace Federer a few year ago

Experimentee
Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:39 PM
I think Dani is not anyway near her 2002 form yet, but she still played better than she did at Hopman Cup last 2 years (well anything would be better bc that was terrible). She played well until 3-3 in the first set, then she started playing too tentatively. She got a lot of foot faults, although i think some of them werent, or were too close to be clearly called. The foot fault calling is really overzealous at the Hopman Cup, i remember last year they footfaulted players a lot too, Malisse got about 8 in one match.

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 02:04 PM
@ TFan: I totally agree with you. Daniela choked the whole match away. Alicia did nothing and basically had all the games gifted to her. I especially concur on the parts about Daniela playing badly on her critical service games.

Oh, and by the way, I didn't watch the match either. Or follow live scoring. :retard:
But I bet you like my little bit of fiction analysis, because finally someone agrees with you. Happy now?

Once again, if you cannot handle and/or follow the argument, invent one that suits you. Last refuges of the intelllectually challenged... :lol:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 02:08 PM
She played well until 3-3 in the first set, then she started playing too tentatively.

Interesting... ;)

Experimentee
Jan 3rd, 2005, 02:15 PM
Alicia's serve is insane..she can even ace Hrbathy :eek: :worship:
how many female players can do that?? apart from venus whom managed to ace Federer a few year ago

Its not uncommon in mixed doubles, esp in Hopman Cup. Serena aced some guys when she played HC, and Strycova aced Blake last year.

Muffin the Mule
Jan 3rd, 2005, 02:44 PM
Didn't really expect Dani to win this - I'm sure Alicia will be well into the Top 10 by the end of the year.

I'd be more worried if she didn't beat Shaughnessy and Krajicek, but then again Hopman Cup wasn't very kind to her last year either!

Keep smiling Dani :kiss:

TFan1156
Jan 3rd, 2005, 02:52 PM
Hey, this has been educational. We've all been treated in this thread to an excellent ostensive definition of the word "pig-headed". :lol: :worship:

Sorry you have been unable or unwilling to grasp the point, and that the mere expression of suspicion brought such a flood of defensiveness from "unbiased" fans... ;) But hey, you seem to have resigned from the message board spelling police. That is progress and I commend you... ;)

Mr_Molik
Jan 4th, 2005, 05:07 AM
IS there any chance of getting Dani's stats. The set scorea are a break and a break, which could indicate she played well except for three or four critical points. So 20 winners and 10 UEs is one thing, and 10 winners and 20 UEs is something else. Congrats to Molik for taking off this year where she left off last year. Took on Dani to have her as a first opponent.alicia broke dani's serve twice in the first set and once in the second. alicia's serve wasnt broken at all

Lemonskin.
Jan 4th, 2005, 06:02 AM
Alicia's serve is insane..she can even ace Hrbathy :eek: :worship:
how many female players can do that?? apart from venus whom managed to ace Federer a few year ago
Alicia aced Hrbaty twice in a row at one point :cool: but seriously she was playing fantastic.

...

for those who asked Alicia broke Dani twice in the forst and once in the second set.

Rub
Jan 4th, 2005, 07:54 AM
i hope daniela regains top form!