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SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 05:51 PM
Well I was hoping Venus could, but apparently not. Kim's out injured. Justine doesn't seem the same player. Who else is there?

jimbo mack
Jan 2nd, 2005, 05:55 PM
there are at least 11 players who i can think of

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 05:57 PM
there are at least 11 players who i can think of

Like?

jimbo mack
Jan 2nd, 2005, 05:58 PM
Like?

any of the top 10 and clijsters

SzavayFi
Jan 2nd, 2005, 05:59 PM
Anyone can stop anyone really.

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:01 PM
Well Serena is the main threat.

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:02 PM
Clijsters is injured, she won't be there, unless she's made a miraculous recovery. The top 10? Well that's 9 minus Maria. Can't see anyone there troubling her. They will have to improve to beat her, which they haven't since YEC.

jimbo mack
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:02 PM
Anyone can stop anyone really.

i wouldnt say that

cant exactly see sharapova losing to someone like catalina castano for example

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:03 PM
Well Serena is the main threat.


Yeah I would think that too, but she has Serena’s number.

jimbo mack
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:03 PM
Clijsters is injured, she won't be there, unless she's made a miraculous recovery. The top 10? Well that's 9 minus Maria. Can't see anyone there troubling her. They will have to improve to beat her, which they haven't since YEC.

mauresmo beat sharapova in yec

i think amelie has a good chance to beat maria again

starr
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:04 PM
As trite as it seems, she needs to take it one match at a time. Anyone can trip her up if she starts believing she has the title in her hands.

I think there are many players in the top ten who can defeat her. Fortunately she doesn't have to play all of them to take the title. ;)

We'll have to wait to see what the draw looks like.

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:04 PM
Serena is a damn good player on form so she could stop Maria!

******* has put Maria and Serena down as the favourites for Aus Open!

_LuCaS_
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:08 PM
Davenport, Mauresmo and Myskina can trash Sharapova, if healthy and focused. Henin, I dunno right now, but if she gets her fitness back, well, she can beat anyone easily. Also Dementieva and Kuznetsova are difficult opponents for Masha. We shall see what this "wondergirl" can do in AO.

backhanddtl4
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:08 PM
Mauresmo could probably do it. Venus too, if her serve was on.

Californakate
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:08 PM
well amelie mauresmo defeated her 7/5 6/4 at the YEC. so that's someone else :)

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:09 PM
mauresmo beat sharapova in yec

i think amelie has a good chance to beat maria again

She cannot handle the pressure of a major tournament. Odds are she won’t make the final. I think Maria will make the final, so Amelie won’t be there.

Wiggly
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:10 PM
Clijsters is injured, she won't be there, unless she's made a miraculous recovery. The top 10? Well that's 9 minus Maria. Can't see anyone there troubling her. They will have to improve to beat her, which they haven't since YEC.

No body plays since YEC :rolleyes:

Myskina, Zvonareva, davenport, they can beats Maria!

SzavayFi
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:10 PM
i wouldnt say that

cant exactly see sharapova losing to someone like catalina castano for example
yea and I didnt think Alina Jidkova could be Serena! :confused:

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:11 PM
Serena is a damn good player on form so she could stop Maria!

******* has put Maria and Serena down as the favourites for Aus Open!

Well according to form, she hasn't beat her yet. So form suggests that Maria would win, should they meet.

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:13 PM
No body plays since YEC :rolleyes:

Myskina, Zvonareva, davenport, they can beats Maria!

So the new tennis season hasn't started yet? And exhibition matches don't count?

Zvonereva has no hope.

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:13 PM
Well according to form, she hasn't beat her yet. So form suggests that Maria would win, should they meet.

come on, when an elite player plays an elite player, anything can happen.

goldenlox
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:17 PM
Maria has only beat one seed at a major, in her career. Excluding Wimbledon.
She has yet to beat a seed at the AO or US Open.

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:18 PM
come on, when an elite player plays an elite player, anything can happen.

So what elite player can stop her winning the Australian Open? Apart from Serena? Who has not beaten her to date.
It was you who was quoting *******(they go by the formbook).

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:20 PM
So what elite player can stop her winning the Australian Open? Apart from Serena? Who has not beaten her to date.
It was you who was quoting *******(they go by the formbook).

they don't go just on form at all.

I mean Serena and Maria are the front runners to win Aus Open, then you have mauresmo, henin, davenport, myskina who are also contenders.
(according to *******)

I have to agree with them!

SzavayFi
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:22 PM
We cant forget Anastasia either. She will be a big threat to Maria too.

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:23 PM
Here's a list no players who surely cannot stop Maria, hence winning the Australian Open.

Myskina, fluke RG winner.
Dementieva, no nerve in a final, and a serve that surely will falter.
Mauresmo, cannot handle the pressure.
Davenport, not as fit as she once was, best form behind her.
Venus, has been.
Serena, Maria has her number.
Zvonereva, LOL Whatever

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:23 PM
Yeah I would think that too, but she has Serena’s number.

Why do people think that Maria has Serena's number??? :fiery: Her record is 2-1... and the last win came when Serena was leading 4-0 in the third and couldnt hardly play anymore so she let off... Yeah :rolleyes: i would definitely say that she has her number... yeah right.. She is going to be Maria's main threat...

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:26 PM
they don't go just on form at all.

I mean Serena and Maria are the front runners to win Aus Open, then you have mauresmo, henin, davenport, myskina who are also contenders.
(according to *******)

I have to agree with them!

So what you say is, Maria will reach the final, and her opponet in the final is the only player capable of stopping her? Because if you agree with *******, they suggest Maria makes the final on those odds.

tennis ace
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:27 PM
this is a very stupid question seeing how she lost to mary pierce in the 3rd round of the last granslam.

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:30 PM
this is a very stupid question seeing how she lost to mary pierce in the 3rd round of the last granslam.

Thanks for the stupid answer.

gmak
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:31 PM
there are 4-5 people who can trouble Maria....

Lindsay
Amelie
Elena D
Serena
Myskina

SchittSchett
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:32 PM
Why do people think that Maria has Serena's number??? :fiery: Her record is 2-1... and the last win came when Serena was leading 4-0 in the third and couldnt hardly play anymore so she let off... Yeah :rolleyes: i would definitely say that she has her number... yeah right.. She is going to be Maria's main threat...

The fact remains that Maria won, and mentally that will work on Serena's mind. But at least you have the common sense not to add Hantuchova and Dokic as possible winners.

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:32 PM
So what you say is, Maria will reach the final, and her opponet in the final is the only player capable of stopping her? Because if you agree with *******, they suggest Maria makes the final on those odds.

Maria and Serena are not the only players on tour. Anything can happen, I'm just saying these 2 players might stand a slightly better chance that some of the others, although there are several others who are capable of winning!

fammmmedspin
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:32 PM
Clijsters is injured, she won't be there, unless she's made a miraculous recovery. The top 10? Well that's 9 minus Maria. Can't see anyone there troubling her. They will have to improve to beat her, which they haven't since YEC.
Well its possible Serena still can't serve at more than half power and its possible that Myskina might go to sleep again after making Maria look decidedly uncompetitive for a set. Its even possible that Maria might be able to play better against the players who had the H2H over her in 2004. On the other hand you overlook the little problem that Momo beat her at the YEC, three top ten players were not even there and she didn't play two players who were. Thats before you allow for Sveta waking up for the new year and Vera not playing at her YEC level and all the other top 30 players who have a fair chance of beating Maria. Extrapolating a line from one point is a bit unreliable.

silverwhite
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:33 PM
Why do people think that Maria has Serena's number??? :fiery: Her record is 2-1... and the last win came when Serena was leading 4-0 in the third and couldnt hardly play anymore so she let off... Yeah :rolleyes: i would definitely say that she has her number... yeah right.. She is going to be Maria's main threat...

Well its possible Serena still can't serve at more than half power and its possible that Myskina might go to sleep again after making Maria look decidedly uncompetitive for a set. Its even possible that Maria might be able to play better against the players who had the H2H over her in 2004. On the other hand you overlook the little problem that Momo beat her at the YEC, three top ten players were not even there and she didn't play two players who were. Thats before you allow for Sveta waking up for the new year and Vera not playing at her YEC level and all the other top 30 players who have a fair chance of beating Maria. Extrapolating a line from one point is a bit unreliable.

:clap2:

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:37 PM
The fact remains that Maria won, and mentally that will work on Serena's mind. But at least you have the common sense not to add Hantuchova and Dokic as possible winners.

How old are you??? This is your first day on the board and your already posting stupid comments and pissing everyone off... Nice way to start. :rolleyes:

pav
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:38 PM
Anyone of about fifteen Players on Their day

SzavayFi
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:40 PM
The fact remains that Maria won, and mentally that will work on Serena's mind. But at least you have the common sense not to add Hantuchova and Dokic as possible winners.
Oh yea your're cool, you cant find a good comeback so you start bashing the other people in his sig. Man that really pisses me off, I actually think that Dani and Maria have a high chance of playing each other in early rounds and Maria better watch out :mad:

Julia1968
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:40 PM
this is a very stupid question seeing how she lost to mary pierce in the 3rd round of the last granslam.

Now, compare the tournament results of Mary Pierce vs Maria Sharapova since the US Open. Sharapova appears to be peaking. Mary Pierce isn't and probably never will again.

The
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:41 PM
*watches yet another thread on wtaworld.com turn into a flamewar*

As far as the actual topic, a lot of people can beat Maria on any given day at the AO. She could draw a junk baller in the 2nd round and be eliminated by then, Maria hasn't shown us any consistency yet so i'm not going to be betting on her anytime soon.

Julia1968
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:42 PM
Oh yea your're cool, you cant find a good comeback so you start bashing the other people in his sig. Man that really pisses me off, I actually think that Dani and Maria have a high chance of playing each other in early rounds and Maria better watch out :mad:

Wow! Perhaps Dani should consider playing the ATP in '06. I had no idea she would so completely dominate the WTA in '05! :lol:

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:45 PM
Wow! Perhaps Dani should consider playing the ATP in '06. I had no idea she would so completely dominate the WTA in '05! :lol:

That Kinda didnt make any sense.. where did he say that she would dominate?? He said that Daniela and Maria have a chance of playing eachother and that Daniela can win the match...

_LuCaS_
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:50 PM
Myskina, fluke RG winner.

and soon, fluke #1 right? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mauresmo, cannot handle the pressure.

Being GS titleless, maybe she can't, but I see no pressure with Sharapova.

glamorama
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:52 PM
Here's a list no players who surely cannot stop Maria, hence winning the Australian Open.

Myskina, fluke RG winner.
Dementieva, no nerve in a final, and a serve that surely will falter.
Mauresmo, cannot handle the pressure.
Davenport, not as fit as she once was, best form behind her.
Venus, has been.
Serena, Maria has her number.
Zvonereva, LOL Whatever

:lol: Idiot.

Nastya - 3-1 head-to-head over Sharapova.
Amelie - 2-0 head-to-head over Sharapova.
Sveta - 2-1 head-to-head over Sharapova.
Vera - 2-2 head-to-head tied with Sharapova.

She trails those four alone by 4-9 :tape:

Incidentally, Serena has beaten Maria, in her first tournament after an eight-month lay-off :tape:

SzavayFi
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:54 PM
Wow! Perhaps Dani should consider playing the ATP in '06. I had no idea she would so completely dominate the WTA in '05! :lol:
Uhhh, that really made no sence what soever, i said Dani has a chance to beat Maria, just like anyone else did, I said nothing about how she would do in 05'. :rolleyes:

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:55 PM
and soon, fluke #1 right? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Being GS titleless, maybe she can't, but I see no pressure with Sharapova.

myskina GS was not a fluke, you are right.

no pressure playing sharapova? if mauresmo plays sharapova it will be SF or F, cos both are top 4 seeds, this is where mauresmo normally feels the pressure.

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:58 PM
:lol: Idiot.

Nastya - 3-1 head-to-head over Sharapova.
Amelie - 2-0 head-to-head over Sharapova.
Sveta - 2-1 head-to-head over Sharapova.
Vera - 2-2 head-to-head tied with Sharapova.

She trails those four alone by 4-9 :tape:

Incidentally, Serena has beaten Maria, in her first tournament after an eight-month lay-off :tape:

4 of those defeats came when Sharapova was a rookie 16 year old beginner. Amelie is only 1-0 (get ur facts right) against Maria in the YEC match which counted for nothing.

Why not state the h2h of the other top 10 players against maria? :tape: :tape: :tape:

SzavayFi
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:00 PM
How about we all agree that Maria could lose to anyone and anyone can loose to Maria because thats the most logical and easyiest way out of this ridiculous fight.

The
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:02 PM
How about we all agree that Maria could lose to anyone and anyone can loose to Maria because thats the most logical and easyiest way out of this ridiculous fight.

Your punishment for being logical is someone somewhere somehow will find a reason to flame you. I agree with you though.

Martian KC
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:05 PM
Everyone and anyone.

améliemomo
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:08 PM
well many players

the last who beat her: Amélie and will do it again even if its a GS :o

myskina,serena,clijsters(please come back),top20 players(sprem,molik,petrova and many others :rolleyes: )

maria sharapovawon 2 great titles 1 GS and 1 MASTER but always against a weak serena because of injury.

We saw it at RG she lost against suarez :angel:

pigam
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:15 PM
Maria is very good, but whoevber thinks she is unbeatble is kinda stupid.
There are definetly players who can find the weaknesses (which are still there!)
in Maria's game, and exploit them. It won't be easy, maybe, but it's possible...

For Maria, things will be a lot harder this year. Not only ON court, she will be 'hunted',
but OFF court too, that's for sure.

The
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:21 PM
Maria is very good, but whoevber thinks she is unbeatble is kinda stupid.
There are definetly players who can find the weaknesses (which are still there!)
in Maria's game, and exploit them. It won't be easy, maybe, but it's possible...

For Maria, things will be a lot harder this year. Not only ON court, she will be 'hunted',
but OFF court too, that's for sure.

Or put in a different way

Maria < God

Maria definetly has her weaknesses but maybe as time passes she will work through them, I'm not convinced right now that Maria would win if she ran into an Emile Loit or a player who can keep effectively keep it out of Maria's strike zone.

waratahsrock
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:23 PM
well many players

the last who beat her: Amélie and will do it again even if its a GS :o

myskina,serena,clijsters(please come back),top20 players(sprem,molik,petrova and many others :rolleyes: )

maria sharapovawon 2 great titles 1 GS and 1 MASTER but always against a weak serena because of injury.

We saw it at RG she lost against suarez :angel:

When Ameilie beat Maria at the YEC, it was a dead rubber, Maria had already qualified for the Semi-Finals so had nothing to play for, apart from experimenting with her own game. Maria is very capable of beating Amelie, would be very interesting seeing these two play in a SF at the AusOpen.

Serena, Myskina and Mauresmo seem to me to be the ones with a shot at beating Maria, and i certainly would'nt call Maria a certainty to win the Aus Open. Hopefully she can though!

*hingis_forever*
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:53 PM
I really like Sharapova but this thread is stupid! I mean ANYONE in the top 20 could realisticly beat Maria! I mean, I would say that she would be the underdog against Davenport, Mauresmo, Myskina, and Henin-Hardenne and maybe Serena! I could also see her losing to Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Capriati, Venus, Bovina, Petrova, and Molik!

_LuCaS_
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:58 PM
I really like Sharapova but this thread is stupid! I mean ANYONE in the top 20 could realisticly beat Maria! I mean, I would say that she would be the underdog against Davenport, Mauresmo, Myskina, and Henin-Hardenne and maybe Serena! I could also see her losing to Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Capriati, Venus, Bovina, Petrova, and Molik!
:yeah: good point

harloo
Jan 2nd, 2005, 07:59 PM
this is a very stupid question seeing how she lost to mary pierce in the 3rd round of the last granslam.
yep;)

PSUjcapfan
Jan 2nd, 2005, 08:13 PM
I think if Jen comes on strong, shed give her trouble...Jen loves the aussie open and can hurt anyone if shes on her game...but we'll have to see.

franny
Jan 2nd, 2005, 08:24 PM
Well I think that Maria is definitely ONE of the favorites to win this tournament. She seems to be in good form, but the Australian Open will be her first competitive tournament of the year so we will see what type of form she really is in. Honestly I think that any one of these players could win it all: Maria, Lindsay, Justine, Serena, Venus, Anastasia, Amelie, and Kuznetsova. Right now, I have a very very strong feeling that this is where Amelie will break out and win her first slam. I don't know why, but I'm predicting her because it seems like its just a matter of time before she wins a slam, and she's been to the finals here before and she always plays well in Australia. I would put Maria and Serena as next best favorites to win, if they stay in form. Lindsay and Justine would be next depending on their fitness, and Anastasia and Kuznetsova could win if they get lucky and run into the big babes on a bad day or if their draw opens up. We will see, it should be very exciting and we should get some really good match ups.

jcaprulez
Jan 2nd, 2005, 09:05 PM
In the last few slams the faviourite hasn't won. The fact that Maria's on top form just now means nothing.

RedFilaJ-Cap#1
Jan 2nd, 2005, 09:22 PM
Maria while being a great player is not invisible. I think that anyone in the top ten will give her a tough time!!! She has shown that she can be great, but also that she isn't number one just yet!!!

TopTenPlayer
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:03 PM
Maria may very well have Serena's number but Maria has not proven to be consistant.
She is a streaky player.
I do give her credit for all her wins. No doubt she is a great player but I still thinks she has to many ups and downs.
Still needs to work on that. ;)

pcrtennis
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:06 PM
Any top ten player and many outside of it can take down Sharapova on any given day...she's not the dominant player...she fluked her way through Wimbledon and the Champs. and had a crappy rest of the year...She's not unbeatable all of a sudden...

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:10 PM
Any top ten player and many outside of it can take down Sharapova on any given day...she's not the dominant player...she fluked her way through Wimbledon and the Champs. and had a crappy rest of the year...She's not unbeatable all of a sudden...

:rolleyes: you silly dumb fuck!

If you are the best player in the tournament you deserve your title! Have you ever watched tennis before?

Oh looking at your sig, you're from China, so i guess the answer is probably no.

Yaanei
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:17 PM
This is an interesting post. As far as I know on the American side

Davenport, Capriati an dpossibly Serena have injuries. Justine will try to defend, you never know she may not repeat, but she can take out Maria or other top players....Look at Athens.

Myskina seems to have venom for Maria. She may WANT to take her out. The field is too gifted and talented right now to say- who can stop Maria. The ? is Can Maria make it to the final two?

Volcana
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:19 PM
Well I was hoping Venus could, but apparently not. Kim's out injured. Justine doesn't seem the same player. Who else is there?If that's a serious question. As in, who CAN, not who definitely WILL....

1) Davenport
2) Mauresmo
3) Myskina
4) Kuznetsova
5) Dementieva
6) Williams, S
7) Henin-Hardenne
8) Williams, V
9) Capriati


Davenport, I believe has some reported health issue, but she HAS won the tournament before.
Mauresmo's neres are an issue til proven otherwise, but she has made the finals here.
Myskina impresses me more and more mentally. If she realy wants to win this thing, she'll be hell-on-wheels. Can't see her getting past a healthy Serena, or Henin-Hardenne, but will they BE healthy.
Kuznetsova, seems to have lost her US Open groove. If she plays like she did in the last slam, she can beat Sharapova easily. If.
Dementieva, if she can break Sharapova's serve enough. She's better off the gournd than Sharpaova, but well ... the serving thing.
Serena, has to stay healthy, and play like she did at the YEC
Henin-Hardenne. I didn't think she could win the Olympics. She's defending champ. If I diss her, she's sure to win, and I want Venus to win, so I'm not tempting fate. Speaking of which ....
Obviously her 2004 form would not be sufficient. Equally obviously, I put little stock in exhibition losses. However, Venus earned her ranking. By playing like dreck after Warsaw. I accept the reasons were health related. But that doesn't mean she'll play better now.
Capriati. 2x champ. Either she shows up tight, or she shows up fat. If she shows up tight, she can win this tournament again.
OTOH. if you're asking who I'd put ten quid on to beat Sharapova at OZ, Lindsay and Serena.

Kart
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:20 PM
I could stop her for an autograph if that helps :).

Crazy Canuck
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:24 PM
Honestly, I don't know why anybody else is bothering to go.

Serena!
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:26 PM
I think Serena or Amelie could beat Maria. Davenport, Myskina and Dementieva probably not. Davenport lost to her in a match in Baltimore in straight sets, Myskina is a HUGE choker and I just think Dementieva can't beat her.

pcrtennis
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:27 PM
:rolleyes: you silly dumb fuck!

If you are the best player in the tournament you deserve your title! Have you ever watched tennis before?

Oh looking at your sig, you're from China, so i guess the answer is probably no.


Why would I be from China??? Because I have asian players on my profile that means I'm from China?? That's not ignorant or moronic of you at all:lol::rolleyes: ... You must be European or American...I probably watch tennis more than you do, I do think there was a nice cushy draw at Wimbledon...and an injured Serena that she shouldn't have even got by in Los Angeles. To her credit she won all the matches but to somehow suggest that she's a dominant player is rediculous at best. 20+ players can beat Sharapova.

jimmyc
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:32 PM
Why would I be from China??? Because I have asian players on my profile that means I'm from China?? That's not ignorant or moronic of you at all:lol::rolleyes: ... You must be European or American...I probably watch tennis more than you do, I do think there was a nice cushy draw at Wimbledon...and an injured Serena that she shouldn't have even got by in Los Angeles. To her credit she won all the matches but to somehow suggest that she's a dominant player is rediculous at best. 20+ players can beat Sharapova.

Nice draw? serena and davenport back to back, so easy :rolleyes:

Yes Serena was injured in YEC, but Maria still had to get to the final to face Serena. Serena got injured when the score was 4-6 5-2, so the match was evenly balanced and anything could have happened.

Did i ever say maria is unbeatable and dominant? NO

jacobruiz
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:35 PM
I could stop her for an autograph if that helps :).

:haha:

blumaroo
Jan 2nd, 2005, 10:45 PM
Its impossible to predict how well she will do. But anywayz, I think Svetlana, Vera and Myskina aren't going to be huge threats to Maria since she beat them at the YEC. I think she gained a lot of confidence since then. A healthy Serena, supermotivated Mauresmo and a healthy Davenport should be able to beat her though.

_LuCaS_
Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:03 PM
I think Serena or Amelie could beat Maria. Davenport, Myskina and Dementieva probably not. Davenport lost to her in a match in Baltimore in straight sets, Myskina is a HUGE choker and I just think Dementieva can't beat her.
Myskina leads 3-1, so probably yes. She had a *choke* in 2004 (athens) but that doesn't make her a HUGE choker. IMO YEC was no choke, just lost her focus, especially against Sharapova & Co. Anyway that was in 2004, now it's 2005, no Olympics, she has a Fed Cup boost and an eager desire to be the first Russian to become #1.

PS: I really want a Nastya v Masha in AO, with lots of sparks, of course if Maria makes it through the first rounds :cool:

jacobruiz
Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:09 PM
Nice draw? serena and davenport back to back, so easy :rolleyes:

Yes Serena was injured in YEC, but Maria still had to get to the final to face Serena. Serena got injured when the score was 4-6 5-2, so the match was evenly balanced and anything could have happened.

Did i ever say maria is unbeatable and dominant? NO
I don't think ANYONE said Maria is unbeatable and dominant, except for a couple clueless trolls somewhere, maybe.
Maria's fans are so often put down and criticised for the supposed offense of bragging that she is unbeatable. I think the main reason for this is that Maria herself is kind of hard to criticise. She's still only 17-years old and she keeps getting better.

Of course, like any mortal tennis player, she can be beaten by more than a few people on an off day. Who can't be?:confused:

TFan1156
Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:18 PM
this is a very stupid question seeing how she lost to mary pierce in the 3rd round of the last granslam.

Good point. Mary was at her best and Maria was at least a bit off. You got to win a lot of matches to win a slam, and about anyone could get knocked off along the way, depending on circumstances. The bookies know what is up, and you will not see any real strong odds on any one player winning, unlike with Federer... There is nothing resembling dominance now in women`s tennis.

turt
Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:23 PM
Assuming Lindsay withdraws, I think 3 of the seeds 5-8 (Dementieva, Justine and Serena) are more likely to reach the semi-finals than seeds 1-4 (Amélie, Nastya, Sveta and Maria), so this AO looks exciting!

Watch out for the little ponytail belgian girl, she's under the radar because of her 2 losses in the WTT exhibition, but be sure she'll be ready when things matter!

xcrtbckhnd
Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:35 PM
I believe there are many players (like probably many players in the top 30-40) who could upset any other player on a given day. There are so many "unknown" factors that could come into play - minor injuries, length of previous matches and recovery time, players having an extremely "off" day, players having an extremely "on" day, conditioning, physical health or illness, court surface, match scheduling, etc. Certainly Maria is a favorite to win, but I don't think it's a given. Her odds of winning naturally decrease as she moves further into the tourni and plays tougher and tougher opponents.
I hope she does well and would love to see her win. However, I still think there's many players out there that could beat her.

xin_hui
Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:58 AM
is this just a thread for schittschett to be in denial about her maria?:rolleyes:

MinnyGophers
Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:08 AM
She cannot handle the pressure of a major tournament. Odds are she won’t make the final. I think Maria will make the final, so Amelie won’t be there.

who's to say that Amelie won't face Maria BEFORE the finals? :rolleyes:
Amelie is a Russian killer.

MinnyGophers
Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:16 AM
the author of this thread is just a pathetic troll.... I really like Maria as a player and person, but dude, it's people like that shitschett that really give them the bad name they already have right now.
Maria is NOT unbeatable. Anyone can beat her anyday of the week and twice on sundays, and this goes for every player. Period.

Lemonskin.
Jan 3rd, 2005, 03:01 AM
OK... the top 10.

Lindsay: H2H: Maria leads 1-0
Lindsay's been on such a roll recently that it's hard to see her not being able to challenge anyone. But I think that Masha can cope with her game.

Momo: Momo leads 1-0
Momo just has every shot in the book when she wants to... If her game is on, Masha would find it hard to overcome her I think... Unless they meet in the SF's :p :bolt:

Nasty: H2H: Nasty leads 3-1
Masha got her 1st win over Nasty at the YEC but strangely, all their matches have been played when one player has been in distinctly better form. Can't pick this one.

Sveta: H2H: Sveta leads 2-1
Would be an interesting match... very evenly matched these two I think.

LenaD: H2H: Masha leads 3-1
Lena has such a great game when she's on but Maria seems to be able to cope with it.

Serena: H2H: Masha leads 2-1
Maria has the H2H edge but Serena definately can beat her. I think a Serena/Masha match where both players play at the top of their game would be interesting

Justine: H2H: 0-0
Never played but Justine is such a complete player... even more so than Momo I think because of her mental toughness... definately Maria would have to play at 110% to beat her

Venus: H2H: Maria leads 1-0
Well... Venus is in a bit of a slump ATM so I think Maria could cope with her unless Venus magically makes a return to 2001/2002 form

Cappers: H2H: Cappers leads 1-0

cheo23
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:42 AM
the author of this thread is just a pathetic troll.... I really like Maria as a player and person, but dude, it's people like that shitschett that really give them the bad name they already have right now.
Maria is NOT unbeatable. Anyone can beat her anyday of the week and twice on sundays, and this goes for every player. Period.
EXACtLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Say NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :worship:

10nisfanofruz
Jan 3rd, 2005, 04:54 AM
No one is unstoppable<except Federer :lol: >
Maria is a fav to win AO but there are also other players who're capable to win.

G1Player2
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:03 AM
I really like Sharapova but this thread is stupid! I mean ANYONE in the top 20 could realisticly beat Maria! I mean, I would say that she would be the underdog against Davenport, Mauresmo, Myskina, and Henin-Hardenne and maybe Serena! I could also see her losing to Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Capriati, Venus, Bovina, Petrova, and Molik!
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Prizeidiot
Jan 3rd, 2005, 08:07 AM
Nothing is a foregorn conclusion, other than, as someone kindly pointed out, Federer winning.

Maria still has to win 7 straight matches. In two weeks, theres a fair chance she might go off in one match. And also, there are a few players who can play ok, so if she sustains her form, its still not guaranteed.

rikvanlooy
Jan 3rd, 2005, 10:39 AM
Well, Justine did meet Sharapova at the end of 2003, but only in a demonstration game.

Sharapova impressed me enormously. She was completely outplaying Justine. I hadn't seen that in a long time. I didn't think any player was able (at that time) to do that with Justine.

Ultimately Justine won that match after saving several match points.

I don't think Justine was really happy about that match. Sharapova played that match as if her life depended on it. When Justine got in het game and began to fight, it became much more even.

Clijsters played a few times against Sharapova. In their first encounter Kim received a 6-0 throbbing. Kim won that mutch, but Kim was surprised by the power of Sharapova.

The next encounter Kim teached her a lesson. Kim had changed her play and played her like she does Davenport, namely by pinning them by means of her backhand.

jj74
Jan 3rd, 2005, 02:55 PM
I don't know, usually young players take a time to reach their high after a GS win, Serena, for example spend two years without winning a GS after her winning in her first US open, but each player is different. And every GS have surprises

timray
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:03 PM
Who can stop Maria Sharapova in Australia?

Only Maria Sharapova can stop herself.

Paneru
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:17 PM
More stupidity! :lol:

OZ Open is wide open for anyone to win!

This Slam certainly isn't anyone's to lose!
That is for damn sure!

Also, for anyone to say Maria can't be stopped
simply because she won a meaningless exhibition
and won three tournaments last year as opposed
to what those ranked above her and below her did
last year and what they are capable of is quite idiotic! :)

Then again, look at where we are!
So, no surprises here! :cool:

pigam
Jan 3rd, 2005, 05:20 PM
Only Maria Sharapova can stop herself.
some Justine fans said this about Justine...
some Serena fans said this about Serena...
some Martina fans used to say this about Martina...

nihil nove sub sole :)

turt
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:33 PM
some Justine fans said this about Justine...
some Serena fans said this about Serena...
some Martina fans used to say this about Martina...

nihil nove sub sole :)
Well, all of them were right, in a way ;)

Serena+LenaDrule
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:36 PM
Serena is a damn good player on form so she could stop Maria!

******* has put Maria and Serena down as the favourites for Aus Open!
Nope..sharapova is only 4th favorite ;)

unpopular
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:39 PM
I know Maria Sharapova will win.

jimmyc
Jan 3rd, 2005, 06:44 PM
Nope..sharapova is only 4th favorite ;)

Serena is the favourite, Maria is 2nd, Amelie is 3rd, Justine is 4th

http://www.*******.com/?rfr=63&mi=2273027

I will wait until just before the tournament before i bet

DA FOREHAND
Jan 3rd, 2005, 07:17 PM
She cannot handle the pressure of a major tournament. Odds are she won’t make the final. I think Maria will make the final, so Amelie won’t be there.


Oh really...I thought she knocked off Lindsay in stunning fashion to make the 99 A.O. final? :rolleyes: :wavey:

Why are you people talking like Maria didn't lose a match last year? How many non top ten players beat her last year?

le bon vivant
Jan 3rd, 2005, 07:51 PM
I dont think Lindsay can, I think Maria can exploit Lindsay's movement.
Mauresmo definitely can, as long as Amelie doesnt allow it to get tight in the third set.
Myskina definitely can, this is one who really has Maria's number.
Elena cannot, she is somewhat of a fighter, but Maria's return game is too strong.
Sveta definitely can, she was just exhausted at the YEC.
Serena for sure, we all know what Serena is capable of.
Justine - it depends on her form. If she can play at the level she exhibited at the Olympics, for sure.
Venus - not consistent enough.
Jennifer - sadly, no.

Then, Maria doesnt have the luxury to be projected to the later rounds just yet, so she is still susceptible to a loss from Zvonareva, Sugiyama, Molik, Petrova, etc. should she meet one of them in an early round.

Serena!
Jan 3rd, 2005, 08:12 PM
Serena- Definately, @ YEC she was injured and @ Wimbledon Maria was just playing AMAZING tennis (her only 2 loses!) Serena can beat her!
Amelie- If she is playing well and doesn't CHOKE, she can CRUSH Maria.
Myskina- If she doesn't get discouraged, she can DEFINATELY beat Maria.
Lindsay- Even if she's not injured I don't think she can beat Maria, the only way is if Maria plays like crap. She doesn't have much of a chance.
Justine- If she's on her game, yes. But, she has not been well or on tour at all in the past few months so, NOT right now.
Venus- I don't think Venus can, unless she is playing like she was during her domination(00'-01') Otherwise, not really Maria has confidence when she plays Venus. But, I hope Venus can beat her!
Jennifer- I think she can beat Maria, whoever wins it will be close...
Elena D.- Sadly, i don't think she can beat Maria :(
Sveta- Probably not, winning the US Open was a 1 time thing, and she just won't beat Maria.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 3rd, 2005, 09:40 PM
The most obvious choices of beating Maria would be....

Lindsay-A powerful player who is a veteran and can win on experience alone

Serena-I still hold on to the fact that Serena would have taken her down in that 3rd set of the YEC had she not been injured. And people seem to forget that Serena has already beaten her once in straight sets mind you (Miami '04)

Amelie-Has a history of choking, but this could be the turning point. No one wants to lose to a 17 year old.

Capriati-Even though she had lack luster results last year, she has the ABILITY of beating Maria, because she's just as aggressive.