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Cuckoo
Dec 19th, 2004, 11:13 AM
Vote! Discuss! :)

Sam L
Dec 19th, 2004, 11:20 AM
This is a no-brainer. Cher of course and it's not just because of the Oscar.

njitjana
Dec 19th, 2004, 11:21 AM
Absolutely CHER!!!!

AjdeNate!
Dec 19th, 2004, 11:31 AM
Hmmmmm, they've had good ones and bad ones... but for those movies, I'll tip Madge. :p

Grohl
Dec 19th, 2004, 12:20 PM
sandra bullock!

kiwifan
Dec 19th, 2004, 01:37 PM
Cher by a mile or twenty. :p

However the much maligned Madonna was actually pretty good in "A League of Their Own" and "Desperately Seeking Susan" :cool:

Becool
Dec 19th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Cher obviously!

She made Mermaids and Moonstuck!

I looooooooooove Mermaids, and she was perfect there.. she should've been nominated for an oscar there too.. she was marvelous! Winona was! :mad:

CondiLicious
Dec 19th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Cher! Not contest! I don't dislike Madonna as an actress at all... I really like a couple of her movies but Cher is a great actress. I think her best performance was in Mask.

Kart
Dec 19th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Cher.

Joan Rivers
Dec 20th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Cher. After years of making jokes about that woman I gotta pay my respect to a fellow ugly duckling who defied the odds to make a career that's survived literally decades. Also I share a record with Cher. We've had the most plastic surgeries in Hollywood. We're tied on 72 surgeries but she'll overtake me this week - she's booked in for a Christmas Eve tighten up. Chastity gives great gifts doesn't she? What a doll! What does Melissa freaking get me? Free jewelry from my own fucking range!

Someone's got to tell Cher to get off the Farewell Tour though. It's been going for 6 freaking years!

Madonna is one of the worst actresses in history. We're talking worse than Sofia Coppola here.
Of course when Madonna got married there was a day of mourning in the US Navy - they'd have nothing to do during Fleet Week anymore!

Neely OHara
Dec 20th, 2004, 01:41 PM
Cher. After years of making jokes about that woman I gotta pay my respect to a fellow ugly duckling who defied the odds to make a career that's survived literally decades. Also I share a record with Cher. We've had the most plastic surgeries in Hollywood. We're tied on 72 surgeries but she'll overtake me this week - she's booked in for a Christmas Eve tighten up. Chastity gives great gifts doesn't she? What a doll! What does Melissa freaking get me? Free jewelry from my own fucking range!

Someone's got to tell Cher to get off the Farewell Tour though. It's been going for 6 freaking years!

Madonna is one of the worst actresses in history. We're talking worse than Sofia Coppola here.

Of course when Madonna got married there was a day of mourning in the US Navy - they'd have nothing to do during Fleet Week anymore!

Worse than Sofia Coppola. Ouch!!!!

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 01:48 PM
I'm better than either of those broads, which isn't saying much.

alfajeffster
Dec 20th, 2004, 01:55 PM
I think the real question is which fag hag will leave more of their estate to the gays that made their stage careers work...

Discuss

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Neither will leave a dime to gays, mark my words. Madonna is the very proper "Brit" house-frau now and would like to forget her gay legacy. Cher, I don't even think the dame does any charity work for gays, so I can't see the dough coming in. I'm smelling a Doris Duke with her, most will go to a much-younger butler who's her squeeze of the moment when she goes to the big Navy battleship in the sky in her body stocking.

alfajeffster
Dec 20th, 2004, 02:17 PM
Neither will leave a dime to gays, mark my words. Madonna is the very proper "Brit" house-frau now and would like to forget her gay legacy. Cher, I don't even think the dame does any charity work for gays, so I can't see the dough coming in. I'm smelling a Doris Duke with her, most will go to a much-younger butler who's her squeeze of the moment when she goes to the big Navy battleship in the sky in her body stocking.
Oh I don't know- remember how cute and cuddly Chastity Bono was when she was a little girl being paraded out on stage by Cher and Sonny during their 70s TV variety hour? Look what she became- a big, hefty, burly, activist bulldyke. There have also been rumours of Cher's alter-ego dalliances for years (remember how naturally she fit into those gray "Silkwood" sweatpants and boots?), so I doubt the girls on the front lines are going to let her get away with some butler squeezing much of anything for long.

As for the Material Girl, well, I've never really warmed to her, but have to admit, I have nothing but respect for her- she's a hard worker and a ball buster at that- not easy to do in a man's world (although I'd like to see someone get away with it in a woman's world)- Speaking of "The Women", it's been too long since we've chatted about George Cukor's 1939 classic. Whatever happened to the "remake" Mick Jagger was thinking about drubbing up for the general public, Hel?

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Oh I don't know- remember how cute and cuddly Chastity Bono was when she was a little girl being paraded out on stage by Cher and Sonny during their 70s TV variety hour? Look what she became- a big, hefty, burly, activist bulldyke. There have also been rumours of Cher's alter-ego dalliances for years (remember how naturally she fit into those gray "Silkwood" sweatpants and boots?), so I doubt the girls on the front lines are going to let her get away with some butler squeezing much of anything for long.

As for the Material Girl, well, I've never really warmed to her, but have to admit, I have nothing but respect for her- she's a hard worker and a ball buster at that- not easy to do in a man's world (although I'd like to see someone get away with it in a woman's world)- Speaking of "The Women", it's been too long since we've chatted about George Cukor's 1939 classic. Whatever happened to the "remake" Mick Jagger was thinking about drubbing up for the general public, Hel?
Funny, they were running the "best of" Stern this morning and they had Elijah Blue on, I think it was pre-transvestite/needle addict, and he was saying how basically his father never cared to see him and Cher shipped him off to boarding school at 8 and she did the same with Chastity so he never really knew her. He didn't hold it against either parent, though there was some negatively a little with his father. He said Val Kilmer, Gene Simmons, and even Rob Camiletti (a/k/a the Bagel Boy) were totally cool and acted as father figures for him.

I've been off doing a tobacco ad in Japan, so I'm out of the loop in Hollywood. I haven't heard an update of the re-make, but I think unless it was perfectly cast, it would be a disaster. The original is still so good, maybe I'll watch it tonight, it's been some time. They ought to just re-release the original, that is a delightful film.

alfajeffster
Dec 20th, 2004, 02:28 PM
...They ought to just re-release the original, that is a delightful film.
If you're ever in San Francisco for any length of time, you really MUST see The Women at the Castro Theater- it's one of those old movie palaces with an organ and gold guilded columns and frescos, and a big red velvet curtain- and the crowd they get when they roll that film- well, you can just imagine!

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:13 PM
If you're ever in San Francisco for any length of time, you really MUST see The Women at the Castro Theater- it's one of those old movie palaces with an organ and gold guilded columns and frescos, and a big red velvet curtain- and the crowd they get when they roll that film- well, you can just imagine!
Well, I hear Mommie Dearest is a must-see there as well.

What about any of my flicks, do they show them there? The one I did with Neely would seem worthy, but certain "elements" appreciated by certain "types" certainly exist in some of my other movies. Me as Cousin Drusilla chasing around John Wayne in Reap the Wild Wind with The Women grad Paulette Goddard chasing around Ray Milland, certain good elements exist in that movie. Some of the musical/melodramas I did might fit the bill. Back Street is campy as hell, though probably is too dull as it lacks the truly horrible zing that MD and VOTD contain.

alfajeffster
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:17 PM
Well, I hear Mommie Dearest is a must-see there as well.

What about any of my flicks, do they show them there? The one I did with Neely would seem worthy, but certain "elements" appreciated by certain "types" certainly exist in some of my other movies. Me as Cousin Drusilla chasing around John Wayne in Reap the Wild Wind with The Women grad Paulette Goddard chasing around Ray Milland, certain good elements exist in that movie. Some of the musical/melodramas I did might fit the bill. Back Street is campy as hell, though probably is too dull as it lacks the truly horrible zing that MD and VOTD contain.
The Helen Morgan Story never really took off there, from what I can remember. They showed it a couple of times but the crowds were always thin- somthing about lip-sync and drag queens- too much like reality TV me thinks, and I don't think John Wayne flicks are ever going to be big in the Castro. SOMA possibly- ooo, I'm having wicked thoughts this morning!

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:21 PM
Soma?

alfajeffster
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Soma?South Of MArket Street- where the levi-leather (and you go down from there- even a great bar called Zietgeist) crowd gravitates. Hel- I remember (surprisingly for how many brain cells I've fried) Ringgold Alley in SOMA when it was legendary. Ah, those were the days!

ico4498
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Madonna's been successfully acting like a singer for years.

Material girl by TKO.

alfajeffster
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Madonna's been successfully acting like a singer for years.

Material girl by TKO.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:39 PM
South Of MArket Street- where the levi-leather (and you go down from there- even a great bar called Zietgeist) crowd gravitates. Hel- I remember (surprisingly for how many brain cells I've fried) Ringgold Alley in SOMA when it was legendary. Ah, those were the days!John Wayne was really quite different looking in the early 40's, and with me prancing and prissing around and scheming, full of sarcasm, with Paulette Goddard in tow, with our mammies, it really is an overlooked role for me.

Helen Lawson
Dec 20th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Overlooked. Boy, my hair really showed well in Technicolor, so why is this photo in black and white?

http://www.lynnpdesign.com/classicmovies/demille/reapthewildwind4.jpg

SzavayFi
Dec 20th, 2004, 04:27 PM
I don't like either but I put Madonna for the heck of it. :)

SzavayFi
Dec 20th, 2004, 04:27 PM
I don't like either but I put Madonna for the heck of it. :)

*roddicksinme*
Dec 20th, 2004, 04:37 PM
Cher is by far the better overall actress
Madonna was really good in whos that girl though

Barrie_Dude
Dec 20th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Madoona is a fine singer and performer as is Cher.....however, Cher is far and away the better actress!:devil:

TimBo
Dec 20th, 2004, 06:36 PM
Cher. Cher has had some memorable characters in Silkwood, Mask and Moonstruck. However, I really loved The Witches of Eastwick and Suspect was a good movie as well.

Barrie_Dude
Dec 20th, 2004, 06:41 PM
Worse than Sofia Coppola. Ouch!!!!Sofia has, however, shown some skill as a director....