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Big Dave
Nov 24th, 2004, 06:24 PM
What do you guys think of Maria game? What can she improve on to become even better?

Currently I think:

Serve: 9/10
Return: 9/10
forhand: 8.5/10
backhand: 9.5/10
Speed: 8/10
movement: 7/10
volley: 6/10
tactics: 6/10
Mentality: 10/10

What do you guys think? Volleying and movement can be improved a lot and then can become THE dominant player.

Also, Looks: 10/10 :hearts:

Josh B.
Nov 24th, 2004, 06:26 PM
I would say the volley!

Lemonskin.
Nov 24th, 2004, 07:18 PM
She needs her serve to be on always as it is a foundation of her game. When it's off, the DF's flow readily.

She has become one of the best returners in the game in 2004 too I think.

Forehand is big and powerful but sometimes erratic. Many of her errors come from the forehand.

Backhand is beautiful. When other parts of her game fall away, the backhand is always there, steady.

I think people underrate her movement and speed. She's a great mover side-to-side but can be a bit akwards coming forwards sometimes.

Volley is developing, which is exciting because she's getting good at it. She's even tried serve-volleying at times at the YEC

Tactics: This is interesting. When she's totally on top of her game there's little that can stop her, but she mostly seems to have only one tactic in mind for any given match. If that tactic works, it works beautifully. If it doesn't, she often loses, and loses badly. Like vs Sveta at Beijing.

Mentality is awesome. Possibly the biggest fighter in the game at the moment. She just needs to strap her dad to the chair during matches and gag him so he can't be disruptive ;)

andrewbroad
Nov 24th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Serve: 10/10
Return: 9/10
Forehand: 9/10 (though I believe it's improved since Wimbledon)
Backhand: 10/10
Movement: 9/10 (great willingness, but movement to the forehand could be improved)
Volley: not seen enough evidence to rate it
Tactics: 9/10
Mentality: 10/10

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Dan23
Nov 24th, 2004, 11:07 PM
Her serve is great, especially for a girl of her build :)

Return is also good, especially when she frees her arms up on the 2nd serve..;)

I agree the forehand has improved a fair bit this year, though at Wimbledon it was one of her major weapons and won Maria a lot of big points.

Maria's backhand is one of the best going around I think..its hard to fault it

Agreed movement isnt her strongpoint but she sure aint slow and never stops trying..

Im impressed with the work Maria has put into the volleying which would have been the only area lacking in her game. If she can get good at netplay she will be very tough to beat...

Tactics and mentality :worship:

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Nov 25th, 2004, 05:48 AM
Volley: not seen enough evidence to rate it


:rolleyes:

Sharapower
Nov 25th, 2004, 06:00 AM
Maria has got a very good play overall (otherwise she wouldn't be the world #4), but there are some flaws she needs to fix in order to improve consistency in tournaments :

Serve : she goes for too much on second serve so she makes too many DF's (like 5 per set wich is equivalent to a game). She should develop a top spin second serve for more security, top-spin serve can be a big weapon for tall people like Maria, it can even allow her to go for serve and volley on second serve, and guys, there's nothing more terrifying than knowing that your opponent could come in on his/her second serve. The first serve power could be increased if she gets looser while hitting it. 8/10.

Return : Great anticipation, great timing. 9/10.

Forehand : she can make stunning winners from the forehand, especially when she hits it from inside the court, but she has trouble with long crosscourt forehand/forehand rallies, she often makes an unforced error after 3 or 4 shots, providing the opponent can hold some depth which doesn't allow Maria to get inside the court. Most frequently, the ball dies off limits, which means she doesn't give enough... top-spin. That's possibly due to the fact she prepares the forehand from very high so the racquet's spot is not enough "under" the ball before the impact. Maria has two forehands : the usual, academic "modern forehand" which she uses when she has got time to prepare and the one I would call "Sampras" forehand, ending above her head, when she hits from a position very close to the bouncing point. Paradoxically she makes errors on the first one. I think there might be something to do on the preparation, for example beginning from a horizontal position of the racquet spot just before the back-swing (like Kafelnikov or Roddick), in order to better "feel" the rhythm of the shot. 7/10 (but improving).

Backhand : her best, stable shot, but a little weakness is that she has trouble hitting it down-the-line, like she has some apprehension, which means she's not confident enough to do it, which means she needs to practice it a lot more.
If she wants to add a lot of net-play to her game, she should develop an alternate sliced backhand approach. The same goes for dealing with low-balls on her backhand side. When her opponent hits a good slice on her backhand, she often panics because her own slice isn't efficient: she hesitates between sending back a slice or hit it double-handed (which is is risky). It would be good if she learned to hit a single handed slice with a high preparation. Currently she stills prepare with the two hands and releases the left hand just before the shot: this can't be efficient because the racquet-head won't have enough speed at the impact, so your ball will be very attackable (slow and short). 8.5/10.

Movement : movement is okay for me, considering she's so tall. It's even amazing. It will still improve with time, when she finds some more balance. She's sometimes in trouble when the balls come to her and she has to turn around it to be in hitting position, she knows it well, though, so I guess she works on it (it's funny after she misses on that kind of ball, how she mimicks the correct foot work). Another flaw I noticed is that when she attacks or volleys, sometimes she forgets to bend the knees.
8/10

Volley : she improves, match after match after match. The volley shot in itself is the easiest shot of tennis. The difficulty to have an efficient net-game is more about anticipating and developping reflexes. It comes only by just doing it... match after match after match. The great thing is that Maria works on the "classic" volley, as opposed to the swing volley which is used extensively in the women's game. Swing volley is spectacular but you can't hit it on every kind of ball. The classic volley is way more effective.
I think Maria is going to become a great volleyer in one or two years, because she doesn't hesitate, she goes for it, isn't discouraged if she's being passed, quite the contrary, when she's passed she immediatly comes back to the net on the next point if possible. Indeed, that's the only way to become an efficient net-player: you know you're gonna lose some matches before you really reach the suitable technical level but you continue. Here's the difference between a Maria Sharapova and for example, a Daniela Hantuchova : Daniela has got a naturally great volley (way better than Maria's) but she dares not coming in, in match play. Maria knows she's way perfectible on that side but she tries a lot cause she knows that's the only way to improve. 7/10 and improving.

Tactics: Maria is very good in simple, short tactical schemes. When it's about rallies she still needs to improve for example choosing between hitting a patient shot or attacking. Anyway, when she played Amélie Mauresmo at the YEC, we saw her making some experimentation (lifted backhand, serve and volley, variations) and it was not that bad, though she lost the match. 7.5/10

Mental: Along with Justine Henin-Hardenne, Maria has the greatest mental on the tour. It's currently her major strength, the words "fear", "giving up", "slowing down" do not exist in her vocabulary, even when her game is a little bit off, she can still beat the top players. 10/10.

faust
Nov 25th, 2004, 06:25 AM
if theres anything that i think she needs to focus on so she can even be more even better?

i think its on her footwork, she absolutely got those long legs and thats a really good asset for a tennis player. ryt?

well i dont wanna say she needs to improve her forehand and backhand, i think she has em both really workin' well for her.

about mentality and fighting spirit, hey, she has a lot of em'... she said it herself that she likes being pressured in a match so i know definitely that shes a fighter!!

on her serves and returns, i dont think she doesnt have problems with that, she's good.

:hearts:

lakan kildap
Nov 30th, 2004, 07:13 AM
You're hardcore, quasi :lol:

Maria has got a very good play overall (otherwise she wouldn't be the world #4), but there are some flaws she needs to fix in order to improve consistency in tournaments :

Serve : she goes for too much on second serve so she makes too many DF's (like 5 per set wich is equivalent to a game). She should develop a top spin second serve for more security, top-spin serve can be a big weapon for tall people like Maria, it can even allow her to go for serve and volley on second serve, and guys, there's nothing more terrifying than knowing that your opponent could come in on his/her second serve. The first serve power could be increased if she gets looser while hitting it. 8/10.

Return : Great anticipation, great timing. 9/10.

Forehand : she can make stunning winners from the forehand, especially when she hits it from inside the court, but she has trouble with long crosscourt forehand/forehand rallies, she often makes an unforced error after 3 or 4 shots, providing the opponent can hold some depth which doesn't allow Maria to get inside the court. Most frequently, the ball dies off limits, which means she doesn't give enough... top-spin. That's possibly due to the fact she prepares the forehand from very high so the racquet's spot is not enough "under" the ball before the impact. Maria has two forehands : the usual, academic "modern forehand" which she uses when she has got time to prepare and the one I would call "Sampras" forehand, ending above her head, when she hits from a position very close to the bouncing point. Paradoxically she makes errors on the first one. I think there might be something to do on the preparation, for example beginning from a horizontal position of the racquet spot just before the back-swing (like Kafelnikov or Roddick), in order to better "feel" the rhythm of the shot. 7/10 (but improving).

Backhand : her best, stable shot, but a little weakness is that she has trouble hitting it down-the-line, like she has some apprehension, which means she's not confident enough to do it, which means she needs to practice it a lot more.
If she wants to add a lot of net-play to her game, she should develop an alternate sliced backhand approach. The same goes for dealing with low-balls on her backhand side. When her opponent hits a good slice on her backhand, she often panics because her own slice isn't efficient: she hesitates between sending back a slice or hit it double-handed (which is is risky). It would be good if she learned to hit a single handed slice with a high preparation. Currently she stills prepare with the two hands and releases the left hand just before the shot: this can't be efficient because the racquet-head won't have enough speed at the impact, so your ball will be very attackable (slow and short). 8.5/10.

Movement : movement is okay for me, considering she's so tall. It's even amazing. It will still improve with time, when she finds some more balance. She's sometimes in trouble when the balls come to her and she has to turn around it to be in hitting position, she knows it well, though, so I guess she works on it (it's funny after she misses on that kind of ball, how she mimicks the correct foot work). Another flaw I noticed is that when she attacks or volleys, sometimes she forgets to bend the knees.
8/10

Volley : she improves, match after match after match. The volley shot in itself is the easiest shot of tennis. The difficulty to have an efficient net-game is more about anticipating and developping reflexes. It comes only by just doing it... match after match after match. The great thing is that Maria works on the "classic" volley, as opposed to the swing volley which is used extensively in the women's game. Swing volley is spectacular but you can't hit it on every kind of ball. The classic volley is way more effective.
I think Maria is going to become a great volleyer in one or two years, because she doesn't hesitate, she goes for it, isn't discouraged if she's being passed, quite the contrary, when she's passed she immediatly comes back to the net on the next point if possible. Indeed, that's the only way to become an efficient net-player: you know you're gonna lose some matches before you really reach the suitable technical level but you continue. Here's the difference between a Maria Sharapova and for example, a Daniela Hantuchova : Daniela has got a naturally great volley (way better than Maria's) but she dares not coming in, in match play. Maria knows she's way perfectible on that side but she tries a lot cause she knows that's the only way to improve. 7/10 and improving.

Tactics: Maria is very good in simple, short tactical schemes. When it's about rallies she still needs to improve for example choosing between hitting a patient shot or attacking. Anyway, when she played Amélie Mauresmo at the YEC, we saw her making some experimentation (lifted backhand, serve and volley, variations) and it was not that bad, though she lost the match. 7.5/10

Mental: Along with Justine Henin-Hardenne, Maria has the greatest mental on the tour. It's currently her major strength, the words "fear", "giving up", "slowing down" do not exist in her vocabulary, even when her game is a little bit off, she can still beat the top players. 10/10.

Josh B.
Nov 30th, 2004, 07:16 PM
W00t!!

Lemonskin.
Nov 30th, 2004, 07:19 PM
even when her game is a little bit off, she can still beat the top players.

:eek: Sorry Quasi, I can't go with you on that one. Not yet. But soon hopefully.

Her game was slightly off against Myskina at Acura. She lost 5-7 2-6
Her game was slightly off against Zvonareva in Montreal. She lost 6-4 4-6 4-6
Her game was slightly off against Mary Pierce at the US Open. She lost 6-4 2-6 3-6
Her game was slightly off against Kuznetsova in Beijing. She lost 2-6 2-6

Maria Croft
Nov 30th, 2004, 08:58 PM
:eek: Sorry Quasi, I can't go with you on that one. Not yet. But soon hopefully.

Her game was slightly off against Myskina at Acura. She lost 5-7 2-6
Her game was slightly off against Zvonareva in Montreal. She lost 6-4 4-6 4-6
Her game was slightly off against Mary Pierce at the US Open. She lost 6-4 2-6 3-6
Her game was slightly off against Kuznetsova in Beijing. She lost 2-6 2-6


That's so stupid, every match is a month or 2 after wimbledon, I need something better then that, look at Kuznetsova, her game has fallen apart since winning US open, and let's face it, Myskina isn't playing 100% after her win in France, but Maria on the other hand has won WTA !! You cannot expect from her to play 100% everytime !! And I think that her game is improving a lot, she is coming to the net a lot and is using her backhand more often, and that at 17 after winning her first grand slam, what more can you want !!?

Dan23
Nov 30th, 2004, 10:29 PM
:eek: Sorry Quasi, I can't go with you on that one. Not yet. But soon hopefully.

Her game was slightly off against Myskina at Acura. She lost 5-7 2-6
Her game was slightly off against Zvonareva in Montreal. She lost 6-4 4-6 4-6
Her game was slightly off against Mary Pierce at the US Open. She lost 6-4 2-6 3-6
Her game was slightly off against Kuznetsova in Beijing. She lost 2-6 2-6
I think Maria can beat top players when her game is off..:)
Have a look at the YEC SF against Nasty..it wasnt a pretty match but Maria found a way to win..

Andy Mac
Nov 30th, 2004, 11:37 PM
id have to say serve....ims orry..but she can def improve onher serve!

Sharapower
Dec 1st, 2004, 04:44 AM
Originally Posted by Lemonskin
:eek: Sorry Quasi, I can't go with you on that one. Not yet. But soon hopefully.

Her game was slightly off against Myskina at Acura. She lost 5-7 2-6
Her game was slightly off against Zvonareva in Montreal. She lost 6-4 4-6 4-6
Her game was slightly off against Mary Pierce at the US Open. She lost 6-4 2-6 3-6
Her game was slightly off against Kuznetsova in Beijing. She lost 2-6 2-6

Indeed her game was off but her head too at that time.

I think Maria can beat top players when her game is off..:)
Have a look at the YEC SF against Nasty..it wasnt a pretty match but Maria found a way to win..
Yes that's the kind of match I was thinking of, or the final as well.

Yam
Dec 8th, 2004, 09:17 PM
What do you guys think of Maria game? What can she improve on to become even better?

Currently I think:

Serve: 9/10
Return: 9/10
forhand: 8.5/10
backhand: 9.5/10
Speed: 8/10
movement: 7/10
volley: 6/10
tactics: 6/10
Mentality: 10/10

What do you guys think? Volleying and movement can be improved a lot and then can become THE dominant player.

Also, Looks: 10/10 :hearts:

Serve: 9.5/10
Return: 10/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 10/10
speed: 9/10
Movement: 8/10
Volley: 8/10
Tactics: 8/10
Mentality:10/10
Looks: 10/10

Maria Croft
Dec 8th, 2004, 10:03 PM
serve : 8
Return : 8.5
Forehand : 8
Backhand : 9.5
speed : 7.5
Movement : 8
Volley : 6
Tactics : 10
Mentality : 10
Looks : 10

I think that's fair !! she still has a lot to learn but she's young so that works out fine !!

Edward.
Dec 8th, 2004, 10:47 PM
Serve: 8
Return: 9
Forehand: 7
Backhand: 9
Speed: 7
Movement: 7
Volley: 6
Tactics: 8
Mentality: 10

Maria is already a very solid player who is already a match for the best in the game. But as you can see from my scores, there is still room for improvement in several areas, notably volleying (although she is clearly improving in that area) and movement.

Dan23
Dec 8th, 2004, 10:53 PM
You were harsh on the forehand Ed :D
Though its not quite as good as her backhand it has bought Maria a lot of points and is a beautiful shot in slo-mo.
Some her best shots come off that side but also do a few errors ;)

Edward.
Dec 8th, 2004, 10:56 PM
Her forehand tends to break down when she is not playing well. Then opponents exploit it. It needs work, but it is still a good shot, hence the semi decent score, and not a lowly 1 or 2. ;)

Stroba
Dec 9th, 2004, 12:18 PM
Serve: 8,5
Forehand: 8
Backhand: 9
Return: 9
Speed: 9
Footwork: 7,5
Volley: 6,5
Tactics: 8
Mentality:9 (Fighting spirit: 10)

Quasi made a pretty good analysis already so there are only a few things I would like to point out:

- I think Maria taking big risks on her 2:nd serve have actually brought her more points than she´s lost. Yes, she will average a few more double faults in a match than others, but on the other hand her opponents aren´t going to get cheap points of it. They won´t be able to nail a winner right out of it.

- I noticed everyone gave Maria a perfect 10 for mentality. Yes, I agree she is a extremely tough fighter, but IMO when things are not going well, she shows her frustration too easily. She isn´t throwing rackets or anything like that, but just giving that sad, frustrating look. I think you should always try to give your opponent the impression you are confident and in control of the match.

Teemu
Dec 11th, 2004, 01:06 AM
1st: Rising to the net, she moves very well along the baseline but she needs to get more comfortable playing at the net.
2nd: More diversity in her strokes, I know she hits plenty of winners by now (58 in one game! sheesh :)) but diversity is never bad since more and more players will learn how to play against her.
3rd: Remember to write me an autograph at wimby 2005 coz I'll be there :D

Teemu
Dec 11th, 2004, 01:07 AM
Everything else is OK...9-10!

faust
Dec 11th, 2004, 07:18 AM
im raising my cards with full 10's...lol ;)

MickeyMolloy
Dec 11th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Hello everyone!!! I'm new here on wtaworld. I used to browse here a lot and decided to join.

Maria Sharapova is one of my favourite players! I really enjoy watching her matches. I love the way she's so determined to win all the points. I really like her backhand and her mightly serve.

Hope to have lots of discussions about Maria here with you people :)

Josh B.
Dec 11th, 2004, 11:09 AM
HI FarmerD!! :wavey:

Welcome!!

Lemonskin.
Dec 12th, 2004, 12:29 AM
:wavey: Welcome FarmerD!!!

As I say to all the newbies... You're welcome as long as you're not an obsessed wierdo!!! And you're a Sydneysider too so you're already in my good books :p

Andy.
Dec 12th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Yay another Aussie welcome

Princess Sarah.
Dec 12th, 2004, 02:43 AM
:wavey: Welcome FarmerD!!!

As I say to all the newbies... You're welcome as long as you're not an obsessed wierdo!!! And you're a Sydneysider too so you're already in my good books :p

ahaha imo your all obssessed weirdo's! Only joking...some of you are!

Hi Farmer D The sydneysiders rule! although i have nothing against you other Aussies and everyone else in general!

You all rock!

Lemonskin.
Dec 12th, 2004, 08:03 AM
Hey all!

Another poll with Maria in it!!! This time it's "Who has the be4st achievements this year".

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=143480

Vote for Maria here!!! :wavey: :D

faust
Dec 12th, 2004, 09:54 AM
:wavey: Welcome FarmerD!!!

As I say to all the newbies... You're welcome as long as you're not an obsessed wierdo!!! And you're a Sydneysider too so you're already in my good books :p

:lol: :lol:

Szymanowski
Dec 21st, 2004, 08:59 PM
I agree about the serve, When it's on form, she's the best player, when its a bit off, she can look pretty ordinary. (or just pretty).

The few points she serve-volleyed at wimbledon were something special, I think this is an important aspect of her game she should exploit more - it would give her more of an all-round game, which would make it so much harder for her opponants...I actually think she could become the nearest thing the womens tour has to Federer.

Josh B.
Dec 21st, 2004, 09:00 PM
Hi Dr Hutchins, What part of England are you from??

Szymanowski
Dec 21st, 2004, 09:13 PM
Brighton, quite nr the Eastbourne tournament

Josh B.
Dec 21st, 2004, 09:17 PM
Cool!

Im From Grimsby! :D North-East Lincolnshire

Szymanowski
Dec 21st, 2004, 09:18 PM
btw, its d_r_hutchings....I guess I should change that cos this mesage board doesn't show underscores

Josh B.
Dec 21st, 2004, 09:19 PM
btw, its d_r_hutchings....I guess I should change that cos this mesage board doesn't show underscores
ok! :D

Szymanowski
Dec 21st, 2004, 09:22 PM
does maria have a provisional tournament schedule yet for 2005? I can't find one on the net. Would be a dream come true to have her come to eastbourne.....when she had to cut that last yr cos of winning birmingham I was sooooo disappointed.


Not that it did her any harm at wimbledon!

andrewbroad
Dec 21st, 2004, 10:58 PM
Would be a dream come true to have her come to eastbourne.....when she had to cut that last yr cos of winning birmingham I was sooooo disappointed.
I was planning to go to Eastbourne 2004 to see Maria, Daniela Hantuchová and Jelena Dokic. But I went to Birmingham instead when Daniela made a late entry there, because Birmingham is much closer to where I live.

Had I gone to Eastbourne, I would only have had full-fanship interest in Daniela and Jelena, and demi-fanship interest in Vera Zvonareva and Karolina Šprem. And I would only have been there from Monday to Wednesday.

At Birmingham (I was there from Tuesday to Sunday), I had full-fanship interest in Maria, Daniela and Jelena, plus I had the pleasure - the very great pleasure - of attending a mouthwatering final day which featured Maria and Tatiana Golovin in the singles final, with the Super Maria Sisters (Sharapova and Kirilenko) winning the doubles! :hearts:

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Dan23
Dec 21st, 2004, 11:02 PM
At Birmingham (I was there from Tuesday to Sunday), I had full-fanship interest in Maria, Daniela and Jelena, plus I had the pleasure - the very great pleasure - of attending a mouthwatering final day which featured Maria and Tatiana Golovin in the singles final, with the Super Maria Sisters (Sharapova and Kirilenko) winning the doubles! :hearts:
Must have been a great day of tennis Andrew :speakles: :D

Szymanowski
Dec 22nd, 2004, 09:21 PM
I think Maria's netplay potential is underestimated; she has played some fantastic points virtually every time she has come to the net, and I reckon its only because she volleys so rarely that she's underrated in this aspect of her game. I was doing some research about different racquets online and on tennis warehouse they said that "At net the racquet feels maneuverable and well balanced for solid volleying. There's plenty of pop to be had on serve and we found this a great racquet for hitting kick serves." It sounds almost designed for serve- volly players! but i don't think she should adopt this as a normal tactic -it's effective for its surprise.

Andy Mac
Dec 24th, 2004, 12:06 AM
hey who are you again?

Edward.
Dec 24th, 2004, 12:31 AM
Dave from Blighty! :D

Andy Mac
Dec 24th, 2004, 12:39 AM
blighty?

Edward.
Dec 24th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Britain.

Lemonskin.
Dec 24th, 2004, 01:19 AM
I think Maria's netplay potential is underestimated; she has played some fantastic points virtually every time she has come to the net, and I reckon its only because she volleys so rarely that she's underrated in this aspect of her game. I was doing some research about different racquets online and on tennis warehouse they said that "At net the racquet feels maneuverable and well balanced for solid volleying. There's plenty of pop to be had on serve and we found this a great racquet for hitting kick serves." It sounds almost designed for serve- volly players! but i don't think she should adopt this as a normal tactic -it's effective for its surprise.
Some people criticise her for not using the net all that much but maybe she should be praised for using it so selectively that she wins most of the points she tries at net

faust
Dec 24th, 2004, 04:12 AM
i dont get to see her play all the time...but is she that effective when it comes to the net?...

Andy Mac
Dec 24th, 2004, 01:17 PM
are u doubting are masha?