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GoDominique
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:26 PM
I think yes. :(

I definitely expected more of her after her great match against Serena mid-season, but she really underachieved in the 2nd half of 2004.

Let's hope she can improve next year. :)

Pengwin
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:27 PM
I couldn't disagree more. Since she is only 17 and has won 2 majors in one year against fierce competition from older compatriots like Mauresmo and Davenport.

no1mariafan
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:31 PM
No, if you take the point from the start of the year. No one would have imagined she would win 2 major tournements. After the grass season, i still dont think she dissapointed. Great year from Masha!

jonny84
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:38 PM
I would have thought that at this time last year Maria was far too underexperienced and not mature enough to win Wimbledon or the YEC. She has exceeded everyones expectations I think.

wateva
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:39 PM
i think the title is misleading. maria did have some disappointing losses after wimbledon. but overall, her 2004 was spectacular. who would have expected her to rise up the rankings so rapidly at the beginning of the year??!!

Doc
Nov 20th, 2004, 12:59 AM
Yes. World No 4. and 2 Majors, and still 17.

After her Wimbledon win, I suggested she might make the Top 5 by the end of the year. When she had a few losses in the summer people pooh-poohed that. And here she is - No 4! The girl done good.

mboyle
Nov 20th, 2004, 03:06 AM
Considering the trolls (Volcana, Bandabou, Rocketta, etc.) were deeming her a one slam wonder who would finish outside the top ten and would never reach the top ten again, there is no argument that she has underperformed. I think she might win the slam next year--not a slam, the slam.

faboozadoo15
Nov 20th, 2004, 05:17 AM
haha, NO. i think shes maybe the only player in the top 10 who could be thrilled with her year. when you think of sharapova's year, you think, wimbledon, yec. the only other top players who should be happy with their accomplishments are myskina and sveta. they broke through in slams and will be remembered for that. it's great lindsay ended #1, but with no slams to show for it, it's not as sweet, same for momo who was at #1 for 5 weeks. elena choked away her finals, serena didn't have a banner year by her standards, venus fell apart at times but had a good clay season, vera qualified for yec (happy with that alone?) and justine would be upset she couldnt do more.

masha exceeded everyone's expectations... she could have played a few matches better, but that's so nitpicky that it's ridiculous.

Gowza
Nov 20th, 2004, 05:30 AM
hell no, the girl is only 17, she won wimbledon and the YEC what more could you ask for. i did even expect maria to make the top 10 let alone the top 5 and win wimby and the YEC, under achieved? any player would love a year like that and she is still only 17. i dont get how you can say she disappointed you but everyone is allowed their own opinion.

Lemonskin.
Nov 20th, 2004, 06:39 AM
Of course not!!!

After her Wimbledon win, she simply suffered a "let down" where she got a bit distracted by all the media attention and also I think was trying too hard to be sucessful.

But she got rid of all that, and got back to playing some great tennis. Seoul and Tokyo were perfect venues for her to build confidence in her game to then attack the indoo season.

Here's looking forward to 2005!!!

Sam L
Nov 20th, 2004, 07:06 AM
Considering the trolls (Volcana, Bandabou, Rocketta, etc.) were deeming her a one slam wonder who would finish outside the top ten and would never reach the top ten again, there is no argument that she has underperformed. I think she might win the slam next year--not a slam, the slam.
Well she still only has one slam.

Lemonskin.
Nov 20th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Well she still only has one slam.
:rolleyes: Yeah, only one!

Come on, she's 17. Not a lot of 17 year olds have two majors and get to #4 in the world... some have, but not many. She's done great.

Jakeev
Nov 20th, 2004, 08:31 AM
I guess if Maria had only won the three lower Tier events this year, she would have been regarded as having a successful season.

But the fact she won Wimbledon and YEC, people are making more out of what she didn't do than they should have.

Maria won a lot of matches this year.

But if you look at her record, prior to Birmingham, she had only made it to the quarters or better in two tournaments, one quarter over the summer after Wimbledon and of course, had her best results in the fall, winning three titles, making it to the final at Zurich and two other semi-final showings.

None-the-less, going 55-15 in 2004 is nothing to sneeze at. Did you see any other player her age with that kind of record on the WTA tour?

By all means Maria had a fantastic year.

TatiAnnahølic
Nov 20th, 2004, 09:07 AM
he's obviously talking about Kirileno, idiots... :rolleyes:

Lemonskin.
Nov 20th, 2004, 09:41 AM
Hmm... I can see that he might have been, now.

But seriously, they both had great matches against Serena mid-season. And Maria Sharapova's the one everyone's talking about so its natural that everyone thought that.

Dan23
Nov 20th, 2004, 09:46 AM
:haha:

Yeah Maria K was really looking to move up the ranks this year and was on her way mid season but didnt have a great finish. The shoulder injury at the USO really didnt help her cause..hopefully 05 is a better season for her :D

Lemonskin.
Nov 20th, 2004, 09:56 AM
:worship: Go Masha K for '05 :D

Edward.
Nov 20th, 2004, 10:26 AM
I think yes. :(

I definitely expected more of her after her great match against Serena mid-season, but she really underachieved in the 2nd half of 2004.

Let's hope she can improve next year. :)

I wouldn't say she has underachieved. Expectations were moderately high at the start of the year. I think a slam and the YEC is an excellent output. Not to mention achieving the No.4 ranking.

Its true that she did underperform after Wimbledon for a few months. Her results were poor, by her standards, and she had a genuinely awful US Open. But I attribute the loss of form to the new expectations put on her shoulders. After Wimbledon, she was elevated into a new position. Her poor results were a reflection of her inability to deal with this new pressure. But I believe she conquered it in fine style, and ended the season remarkably.

So in a nutshell, I believe she has had a fine year, and next year should be even better. :)

Kart
Nov 20th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Considering the trolls (Volcana, Bandabou, Rocketta, etc.) were deeming her a one slam wonder who would finish outside the top ten and would never reach the top ten again, there is no argument that she has underperformed. I think she might win the slam next year--not a slam, the slam.
Rocketta :hearts: is not a troll (neither are the other two especially.)

It's not very nice to insult people when they're not in here to defend themselves.

As for Maria, well I expected her to win nothing this year so she's not disappointed me.

Gallofa
Nov 20th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Nah. I am a Conchita fan. My standards for disappointment are at a complete different level :p ;)

flyingmachine
Nov 20th, 2004, 10:49 AM
NO, off course not.
In fact she did more than what expeted for a 17 year old. She's already won a SLAM. (Not many 17 year old won a slam for most tennis players is their dream to won a slam but only a few will ever won it! :fiery: )
Also people saying she's disappointed at the 2nd half of the season well she won YEC. So it's NOT dissapointed.
Maria is a human being not a robot so don't expect her to win every single game. Anyway, Maria has achieve greatness this year so there is nothing to disappinted about it. :rocker2:

Lemonskin.
Nov 20th, 2004, 10:56 AM
I think we need clarification from GoDominique. Is this thread about Sharapova or Kirilenko?

Dan23
Nov 20th, 2004, 11:05 AM
Well if its about Maria S then GoDom mustnt have seen much tennis this year ;) :p :D

Declan
Nov 20th, 2004, 11:37 AM
I couldn't disagree more. Since she is only 17 and has won 2 majors in one year against fierce competition from older compatriots like Mauresmo and Davenport.

A compatriot is a fellow-countryman, neither of which either Davenport or Mauresmo are! However, I also disagree: Maria had a fantastic year by anyone's standards -in fact, which woman had a better season? None! Someone else made reference to her disappointing US Open result, but really, a three-set loss to an on-form double-Slam winner Mary Pierce isn't the disgrace they seemed to think it was..

Sammm
Nov 20th, 2004, 11:38 AM
No way. She only had 1 REALLY bad loss after Wimby anyway, against Washington.
There's no shame in losing to Pierce and Myskina owned Sharapova when they played in San Diego and masha doesn't like playing vera, so I think the second half was excellent.

GoDominique
Nov 20th, 2004, 03:02 PM
It seems that my initial post has caused slight confusion. :(

Of course that wasn't my intention AT ALL. :angel:

But yes, I was referring to the one and only MARIA Kirilenko. :)

the cat
Nov 20th, 2004, 03:05 PM
LOL GD! :lol: But you were really referring to the one and only Maria Sharapova. ;) And Sharapova did dissapoint this year. She dissapointed the WTA Tour players because they know Masha time is here! :eek: ;)

FrauleinSteffi
Nov 20th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Winning the YEC & Wimby both over Serena & 3 other Tourneys Thats awesome for a 17 year old not since Hingis has someone so young won 2 big big titles in 1 year:)

jcaprulez
Nov 20th, 2004, 07:38 PM
I'm dissapointed at some of the tournies she played as a top ten player. However I think winning Wimbledon was an incredible acheivement.