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Philbo
Nov 19th, 2004, 01:36 AM
Its finally dawned on me that when it comes to tennis and supporting players, I just subconciously gravitate towards supporting the veterans.


The very first reason I ever cheered for ANYONE was when I first started watching tennis in 87 when Martina equalled the all-time Wimbledon record when she beat Graf in str8 sets.

The following year I was heavily supporting Martina as she tried to beat the record, and the year after that - I got hooked on Martina cuz at the time I just liked the fact that this over 30 year old woman was approaching the twilight of her career and was running out of chances.

Graf turned into my nemesis, but even with her, over the years I warmed to her more and more as she became less of a stoic, cold player and showed more emotion etc - culminating in me ACTUALLY SUPPORTING GRAF in the 99 French Open final vs Hings...I now regret supporing Graf considering what happened to Hingis after that match, it was a very surreal experience for me supporting Graf in a match - but again, what got me was that she was running out of chances etc..

When the Williams sisters began to dominate, I always wanted them to lose. But now that they are vulnerable, I subconciously have started to hope that they can return and come back and be succesful again - theres something about vulernability that makes me cheer.

Its interesting though because a lot of people jump ion the bandwagon of the 'next best thing' - the latest 16 or 17 year old that comes along that looks as if she will dominate.. I personally tend to cheer AGAINST 'the next best thing'..

The YEC's was the first real match where I found myself VEHEMENTLY cheering on a Williams sister and REALLY, desperately wnating her to win...which was cause for a bit of soulsearching asking myself 'why ive come around to Serena'...

and i think the answer is simple - I just like the veterans.

Who do you prefer? the veteran running out of time? Or the 'next best thing'??

Diesel
Nov 19th, 2004, 03:15 AM
The veterans you've come to know, and they've proven themselves and their hype is justified along with acclaim. The 'next best things' aren't in those categories almost like their being handed something.

irma
Nov 19th, 2004, 06:39 AM
I came to the conclussion that I dislike number 1's especially when they win many slams too (that's not normal anymore these days)
It's just the :devil: part of my steffi fanship. My :angel: tells me that I shouldn't be so childish but my :devil: is stronger and wins it in the end :lol:

;)

SM
Nov 19th, 2004, 06:44 AM
i prefer the next best thing or juniors that i see with alot of prmoise because their situation is much tougher seeing they have less money and support than those at the top, and also i hate seeing a player who shows so much promise fail to fully realise it! a perfect example is mirjana lucic :(

i think its also exciting because there is a big question mark about their ability whereas we also know where the vet's games are at having played for many seasons.

so good luck to ivanovic, vaidisova,govlovin, peng, etc...they are keeping me interested in tennis and glued to the tv :)

SM
Nov 19th, 2004, 06:46 AM
i must note i do have alot of respect for the vets! i love navratilova, seles, conchita martinez and more :)...and seeing them play juniors who show alot of promise really spices things up for me personally and its very intriguing

Pamela Shriver
Nov 19th, 2004, 08:25 AM
Retired players are best. (Think about it, they don't beat your faves and you can reminise over the 'old days' through vowel tinted glasses)

Greatest
Nov 19th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Its finally dawned on me that when it comes to tennis and supporting players, I just subconciously gravitate towards supporting the veterans.


The very first reason I ever cheered for ANYONE was when I first started watching tennis in 87 when Martina equalled the all-time Wimbledon record when she beat Graf in str8 sets.

The following year I was heavily supporting Martina as she tried to beat the record, and the year after that - I got hooked on Martina cuz at the time I just liked the fact that this over 30 year old woman was approaching the twilight of her career and was running out of chances.

Graf turned into my nemesis, but even with her, over the years I warmed to her more and more as she became less of a stoic, cold player and showed more emotion etc - culminating in me ACTUALLY SUPPORTING GRAF in the 99 French Open final vs Hings...I now regret supporing Graf considering what happened to Hingis after that match, it was a very surreal experience for me supporting Graf in a match - but again, what got me was that she was running out of chances etc..

When the Williams sisters began to dominate, I always wanted them to lose. But now that they are vulnerable, I subconciously have started to hope that they can return and come back and be succesful again - theres something about vulernability that makes me cheer.

Its interesting though because a lot of people jump ion the bandwagon of the 'next best thing' - the latest 16 or 17 year old that comes along that looks as if she will dominate.. I personally tend to cheer AGAINST 'the next best thing'..

The YEC's was the first real match where I found myself VEHEMENTLY cheering on a Williams sister and REALLY, desperately wnating her to win...which was cause for a bit of soulsearching asking myself 'why ive come around to Serena'...

and i think the answer is simple - I just like the veterans.

Who do you prefer? the veteran running out of time? Or the 'next best thing'??


I don't think anybody can ever match Martina's record...

Sam L
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:24 AM
I liked the Hingis-Williams sister era.

V&S are still around and if they put their heads together, they can still easily dominate.

Justine keeps in interested also and I'll always have hope in Daniela Hantuchova.

Sam L
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:24 AM
But yeah, nothing beats the early 90's with Nav, Graf and Seles.

HotSpot
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:12 AM
same as me I always prefer the veterans...

jcaprulez
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:14 AM
I'll always love Jen.

houseoflords
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:29 AM
I will always love Amanda Coetzer. She was always an inspiration. Now that she's retired, it is all younger players for me.

manu32
Nov 19th, 2004, 11:58 AM
i will always love jen and steffi

mand
Nov 19th, 2004, 12:21 PM
But yeah, nothing beats the early 90's with Nav, Graf and Seles.
I agree :awww:

MistyGrey
Nov 19th, 2004, 02:10 PM
I root for the veterns too. And now I understand why you dont like Steffi at all! :lol: Steffi is to me, what Martina N is to you.. and Martina H is to me, what Steffi is to you..

*Jool*
Nov 19th, 2004, 02:27 PM
I also prefer "veterans" like Conchita :inlove:, Mary ... than the young babes QSprem, Sharapova, Kuzzie, Sesil ...
exception: Golovin :hearts:

rightous
Nov 19th, 2004, 02:30 PM
I mostly root for the veterans, I think its just a case of seeing them develop as players u grow acustomised to their play and personalities

FrauleinSteffi
Nov 19th, 2004, 04:12 PM
ill always love Steffi-best ever & loved her victories over Navratilova & I love Jen too!:)

alfajeffster
Nov 19th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Its finally dawned on me that when it comes to tennis and supporting players, I just subconciously gravitate towards supporting the veterans.


The very first reason I ever cheered for ANYONE was when I first started watching tennis in 87 when Martina equalled the all-time Wimbledon record when she beat Graf in str8 sets.

The following year I was heavily supporting Martina as she tried to beat the record, and the year after that - I got hooked on Martina cuz at the time I just liked the fact that this over 30 year old woman was approaching the twilight of her career and was running out of chances.

Graf turned into my nemesis, but even with her, over the years I warmed to her more and more as she became less of a stoic, cold player and showed more emotion etc - culminating in me ACTUALLY SUPPORTING GRAF in the 99 French Open final vs Hings...I now regret supporing Graf considering what happened to Hingis after that match, it was a very surreal experience for me supporting Graf in a match - but again, what got me was that she was running out of chances etc..

When the Williams sisters began to dominate, I always wanted them to lose. But now that they are vulnerable, I subconciously have started to hope that they can return and come back and be succesful again - theres something about vulernability that makes me cheer.

Its interesting though because a lot of people jump ion the bandwagon of the 'next best thing' - the latest 16 or 17 year old that comes along that looks as if she will dominate.. I personally tend to cheer AGAINST 'the next best thing'..

The YEC's was the first real match where I found myself VEHEMENTLY cheering on a Williams sister and REALLY, desperately wnating her to win...which was cause for a bit of soulsearching asking myself 'why ive come around to Serena'...

and i think the answer is simple - I just like the veterans.

Who do you prefer? the veteran running out of time? Or the 'next best thing'??
I think you may also be experiencing a little bit of that "root for the underdog" syndrome- especially when it involves a player either past her peak or clearly struggling a little bit to recapture the old glory. I won't go into why you like Navratilova so much, only because you and I know each other too well for that, but PM me Czechfan- I might have something to send to you that you would really enjoy...

Jeffster:wavey:

SJW
Nov 19th, 2004, 05:13 PM
Venus, Serena, Monica, Jennifer, Lindsay.......i still love all of those "old" guards.

i like some younguns too...but when the US had that team at the collins cup i couldn't believe it. they were awesome.

Gerri
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:26 PM
I definitely cheer for the old girls. There are so few players around now who are older than me, I like to see that they can still run around for a couple of hours without collapsing :lol:

When they've been around for a few years you get to know their characters better, see them go through the ups and downs, watch them grow up, get so used to having them around. Go vets !! :D

propi
Nov 19th, 2004, 11:15 PM
Wow I just find shocking to call the sisters veterans as they're younger than me ;) I guess time's running faster than I thought ;)
But I agree I tend to support to veterans... my reason is simple... they won't have as many chances as youngsters will have... who could ever imagine that Pierce would win his first grass tourney in 2004??? that kind of things are great IMO and show how the vets are still in fighting mood :)
At the begining I did the other way round... as example I supported Carlos in his RG final vs Corretja but that the world cup I realize Alex deserved a big win in his great career as well :) so I was happy he won.

crazillo
Nov 20th, 2004, 11:33 AM
I prefer veterans, too. They are more flexible with their game and know how to play tennis instead of hitting the ball harder and harder every time.