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dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:21 PM
I love the fire and passion that this year has put back into both Venus and Serena's hearts. Their whole family has been through hell this year and yet they've still had the courage to play tennis and allow players to build confidence by getting cheap wins off of them. It's amazing that they could both have their worst year on tour, still win high tier tournaments, and still finish the year in the top ten. That's a Phenomenal worst year! Hell if they could do this at their absolute worst, imagine what they are going to do next year since they are both committed to compete at their best. And their best is still the best because nobody since has matched it. Venus and Serena have shown excellence unmatched by any two players of their generation. One bad year can't remove that, nor does it take away the champions they are. As Pam said last night (and this maybe the only time I ever agree with her), beware the injured athlete. After the year they've had this year, you know they are going to be swinging carefree next year. It can't get worst than winning no slams. All the focus and pressure is going to be on Maria and that racquet is going to be a lot harder to swing when everybody's gunning for you and you've got all the pressure. Just ask anybody who’s ever held the spotlight. Anyway, here's to a clean slate and free swinging next year for the Williamses. You've survived your worst year ladies so breathe easy. Like a balloon released from the burden of a heavy weight; there's no where for you to go but up. ;) :kiss: 2005 is your year and no hater can stop you!!!

WorldWar24
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:24 PM
You are you bringing Maria into this? You're the obsessive hater!

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:25 PM
2005. only way to go is up?

i'll drink to that :banana:

GoDominique
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Doubts arise regarding Venus. :)

bandabou
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:35 PM
I´m not worried about Serena.....beating Myskina, Elena D, taking a set off Lindsay, beating Momo, battling with Maria while injuried.....she´s gonna be fine.

Venus not beating a SINGLE top 10 player this year is worrysome....but maybe her not qualifying for the yec, might wake her up a bit.

jrm
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:39 PM
She will never be as successful as she was in the past

bandabou
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:42 PM
Who? Serena or Venus?

jrm
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Both - for many reason (one of them is that they cannot go the whole season without injuries) plus i really think Venus fading!

ys
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:49 PM
It is not going to be better than this year.. The field will only be stronger with return of Kim and Justine, Russians who are guaranteed to improve even more, continued rise of Sprem, Golovin and Molik..

Serena will probably be Top 10.. In case she is back on court by Miami time.. I am quite sure with her abdominal strain she is not going to be a threat at AO.

Whether Venus will be a Top 10 is unclear at this point.. I am not sure she cares any longer..

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:55 PM
She will never be as successful as she was in the pastAccording to some, they would never be successful at all. All because their non-tennis background parents coached them, they stopped playing junior tounaments, and they were siblings. But they still became the only siblings to be ranked 1 & 2 in the world, played the most amount of consecutive grandslams between two players ever, and have won 26 grandslam titles between them. They are the only ones who have power over the future legacy they will leave in tennis. They have proved many wrong.

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:00 PM
You are you bringing Maria into this? You're the obsessive hater!
:haha: What, do you have Maria copyrighted or something? I can mention her all I want, you don't own her.

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:04 PM
It is not going to be better than this year.. The field will only be stronger with return of Kim and Justine, Russians who are guaranteed to improve even more, continued rise of Sprem, Golovin and Molik Amazing how you have so much faith in some who have proved much less than Venus and Serena who have proved so much. :confused:

DevilishAttitude
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:16 PM
I very much doubt it :)

ys
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Amazing how you have so much faith in some who have proved much less than Venus and Serena who have proved so much. :confused:
It is not about faith.. It is about, mathematically speaking, seeing the derivative..

bandabou
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:25 PM
But Ys....the Belgians are coming from injuries too, so you expect them to start dominating from the going? And what Russians are you talking about?

To me only 3 russians CAN pose a problem for a Serena: Maria, Sveta and Myskina....that´s it. Vera? Not.....not with that volatile temper. Elena D? Not with that serve...

And it is to be seen how good Karolina REALLY REALLY is.

Again....you´re thinking way too much about your russians.

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:27 PM
so everyone can improve but the WS right?

they'll never win a big title lol
they'll never win a slam lol
they'll never be number one lol
they'll never face off in slam finals lol

it made it that much more fun when they did :)

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:28 PM
It is not about faith.. It is about, mathematically speaking, seeing the derivative..You ever hear the saying a bird in the hand beats two in a bush?

ys
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:31 PM
But Ys....the Belgians are coming from injuries too, so you expect them to start dominating from the going? And what Russians are you talking about?

To me only 3 russians CAN pose a problem for a Serena: Maria, Sveta and Myskina....that´s it. Vera? Not.....not with that volatile temper. Elena D? Not with that serve...
Her serve is expected to improve.. Vera will not be a headcase forever. The fact is .. you compare 2004 of these 5 players and 2003 of them and every single of them imrpoved, and I expect them to be further improved, joined by probably Bovina. And I do not expect Serena to improve. Her body is a wreck. She can't play two tournaments in a arow without getting reinjured.


And it is to be seen how good Karolina REALLY REALLY is.

If she is only 10% better than she was in 2004 she will be beating Williamses left and right. And I suspect, given how much she improved in 2004, that she will improve more than that..

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:32 PM
so everyone can improve but the WS right?

they'll never win a big title lol
they'll never win a slam lol
they'll never be number one lol
they'll never face off in slam finals lol

it made it that much more fun when they did :)

What made it fun was watching all the so-called experts who dismissed them eat crow. :lol: Hope they didn't get too full because a second helping is on the way. ;)

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Her serve is expected to improve.. Vera will not be a headcase forever. The fact is .. you compare 2004 of these 5 players and 2003 of them and every single of them imrpoved, and I expect them to be further improved, joined by probably Bovina. And I do not expect Serena to improve. Her body is a wreck. She can't play two tournaments in a arow without getting reinjured.



If she is only 10% better than she was in 2004 she will be beating Williamses left and right. And I suspect, given how much she improved in 2004, that she will improve more than that..Yata yata yata blah blah blah. Come back and talk when any of the players you mentioned have won four slams. Until then, all you have is a handful of hope and wishes with no proof of nothing.

ys
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:38 PM
so everyone can improve but the WS right?

they'll never win a big title lol
they'll never win a slam lol
they'll never be number one lol
they'll never face off in slam finals lol

it made it that much more fun when they did :)
Enjoy the history.. There is nothing else left, really.. Venus has been definitely and irreversibly affected by her injuries, she is slower, she is heavier. That's why her best surface of 2004 was ... clay..

Serena's body can't take much of tennis any more. Besides, with her seeming unable to live without flashing her boobs or or a piece of a fatter than ever butt once in a while any more.. I mean , give me a break.. At YEC she was simply not fit.. She could not catch her breath for nearly any long rally.. Serena-2002? Could have played 10 of them in a row.. I just don't see it reversed..

In theory, they can come back to the top.. In case they commit themselves to tennis MORE than they have ever committed. Do you see it happening? I don't.. Simply because it will be an investment with no guaranteed results.. They are no longer much physically superior to everyone else on Tour..

ys
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:39 PM
Yata yata yata blah blah blah. Come back and talk when any of the players you mentioned have won four slams.
As I said, enjoy rereading the ancient history.. That is the only thing that is left for you to enjoy..

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Enjoy the history.. There is nothing else left, really.. Venus has been definitely and irreversibly affected by her injuries, she is slower, she is heavier. That's why her best surface of 2004 was ... clay..

Serena's body can't take much of tennis any more. Besides, with her seeming unable to live without flashing her boobs or or a piece of a fatter than ever butt once in a while any more.. I mean , give me a break.. At YEC she was simply not fit.. She could not catch her breath for nearly any long rally.. Serena-2002? Could have played 10 of them in a row.. I just don't see it reversed..

In theory, they can come back to the top.. In case they commit themselves to tennis MORE than they have ever committed. Do you see it happening? I don't.. Simply because it will be an investment with no guaranteed results.. They are no longer much physically superior to everyone else on Tour..

can you tell me where you learnt to see into the future?

i thought Nostradamus was the only one. :)

dreamgoddess099
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:54 PM
As I said, enjoy rereading the ancient history.. That is the only thing that is left for you to enjoy..
At least I'm enjoying something that really happened. Better than enjoying something that exists only in your imagination.:haha:

ys
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:56 PM
can you tell me where you learnt to see into the future?

i thought Nostradamus was the only one. :)
There is not point arguing over predictions.. I wish your girls good luck..

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:00 PM
There is not point arguing over predictions.. I wish your girls good luck..

but you're acting like it's a foregone conclusion :)

and i wish the Russians good luck too...some more than others (since my fave order forever changes).