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Lemonskin.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:19 AM
Boy, this is completely ludicrous now. Before, there was contempt for Maria. Now it seems to have bloomed into full-blown hatred. It's completely ridiculous.

GET THE HELL OVER IT MARIA HATERS.

She's a great player. Whether you like it or not.

....

I agree that her father is WAAAAAY over-the-top.

I agree that she's been used as a marketing tool a lot. But it's not like it's her fault that mother nature decided to make her attractive.

I agree that IMG is exploiting her and making bad decisions.

BUT THAT'S NO REASON for this intense, seething hate that exists around her. This YEC title win has pushed the situation from annoying and stupid and downright disgusting. What has she as a person done to deserve it? All she does is go out there and try her best to win, LIKE ANY PLAYER. And yet for some reason she is easily the most hated player on this board.

...

What I'd like to do is do a comparison to Svetlana Kuznetsova. They have taken almost identical routes this year. They both started out the year ranked in the 30's. They both won some smaller tournaments, and a first Grand Slam. And yet the only way people get talking about Svetlana is when she makes an "uncalled for" comment about another player. Maria can't walk down the bloody street without there being an article about it and 10,000 people queuing up to say why she's stupid. I just don't get it.

What about Martina Hingis? She was a young prodigy. She was attractive. She was everything Maria is (and more) and yet she's one of the most loved players. So why is Maria so hated?

...

Maria is going to be around for at least another 10 years (as long as she stays healthy, touch wood). You people are going to have to put up with her for a long time so I suggest you get over your childish hatred for her. Myself, and other Maria fans are absolutely sick of it.

Grohl
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:22 AM
where is the time that people cheered for their fave's? instead of hating everybody else?

Diesel
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Oh boo hoo, cry me a river with this :hysteric: :crying2: :sobbing: People have opinions. Learn how to take them. Learn how to read posts. Maybe then you'll catch a clue. Maria isn't so special that she should be a sacred cow not subject to criticism or her actions that to people's ire. Get over it.

Robbie.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Good post, except your wrong about Martina, she was one of the most hated players during her time at the top. She was more hated than Maria.

Really all the hate should be seen as a compliment. It means Maria's a success and keeps reminding the jealous cretins of how meaningless their lives are.

Lemonskin.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:26 AM
where is the time that people cheered for their fave's? instead of hating everybody else?
Exactly.

There's players that I like less than others, but it's nowhere near hate. And I don't go around berating them

rue
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:27 AM
No need to hate Maria, because she is really only a teenager. There is nothing wrong she has done to anyone. She deserves everything she has gotten so far and no one can take that away from her.

Robbie.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:28 AM
Exactly.

There's players that I like less than others, but it's nowhere near hate. And I don't go around berating them
yes, but you're not a psychotic loser living through your faves ;)

DeDe4925
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:29 AM
Most of the hate surrounding Maria has to do with her attitude. It stinks. Get over it. If she wasn't such an ungracious winner then there would not be as many threads.
Maria Sharapova After Winning Wimbledon

"And you know I tried calling my Mom .... but the phone wouldn't work!!! Sheesh today's technology hehe! ......"
(Silence in the audience ........ crickets chirping .......... *cough* .............)
"Hehe ....... he .................................. he"
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Diesel
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:29 AM
yes, but you're not a psychotic loser living through your faves ;)

Actually I doubt that. To take criticism of a favorite as badly as this thread starter is taking it shows he probably is living by way of Maria. So you did pinpoint the thread starter correctly.

Lemonskin.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:30 AM
Actually I doubt that. To take criticism of a favorite as badly as this thread starter is taking it shows he probably is living by way of Maria. So you did pinpoint the thread starter correctly.
Wrong! :D

Diesel
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:31 AM
Wrong! :D


:wavey:

Robbie.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:33 AM
Actually I doubt that. To take criticism of a favorite as badly as this thread starter is taking it shows he probably is living by way of Maria. So you did pinpoint the thread starter correctly.
I don't think the thread starter is taking criticism badly. I think he is just sick of the nonsense, as all impartial observers are.

But it's OK, I've been a Martina fan and a Jenn fan so I know not to take any shit from the haters
Serena and Venus fans will know the same.
Sharapova fans will learn to live with it too, by this time next year the hate will be like water off a ducks back.

And yes anyone who HATES a tennis player they don't even know has seriously problems in their life.

deckham
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:34 AM
Most of the hate surrounding Maria has to do with her attitude. It stinks. Get over it. If she wasn't such an ungracious winner then there would not be as many threads.
SHE'S 17 !!! stop crying over the fact she didn't thank your favorite player... jeez..

Diesel
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:35 AM
And yes anyone who HATES a tennis player they don't even know has seriously problems in their life.

It would help if the thread starter realized what most of the criticism regarding Maria at least today is about. And there is a difference between flat out hating a player, any tennis player and criticising actions. Not knowing the difference and that there is one is sad in itself.

jacobruiz
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:37 AM
I really think this board has become overrun with immature people who are not really fans of tennis. Anyone who truly likes the game and it's players would not stoop to posting the kind of garbage they're throwing at Maria. This was a great match, immensely entertaining with fine play by both girls. I am so proud of Maria's maturity in winning this match but I have to keep reminding myself that just because this message board is clogged with hate doesn't make it any less of a win for her. And Serena played so well , too.

I think I'll head to bed - these rabid dog "fans" are sickening.

Diesel
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:38 AM
I think I'll head to bed - these rabid dog "fans" are sickening.

Funny, you've only directed your venom at the fans. Your own rabid streak is showing. Nite :wavey: and don't let the fleas itch too much.

DeDe4925
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:39 AM
Funny, you've only directed your venom at the fans. Your own rabid streak is showing. Nite :wavey: and don't let the fleas itch too much.
:lol:

jacobruiz
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:43 AM
:lol:Bitter much?:rolleyes:

G'nite!:wavey:

Jakeev
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:44 AM
I really think this board has become overrun with immature people who are not really fans of tennis. Anyone who truly likes the game and it's players would not stoop to posting the kind of garbage they're throwing at Maria. This was a great match, immensely entertaining with fine play by both girls. I am so proud of Maria's maturity in winning this match but I have to keep reminding myself that just because this message board is clogged with hate doesn't make it any less of a win for her. And Serena played so well , too.

I think I'll head to bed - these rabid dog "fans" are sickening.
The most intelligent post in this entire thread.

DeDe4925
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:47 AM
Bitter much?:lol:

G'nite!:wavey:
Not bitter. I just hate the way she acted. I expected Serena to lose. I was pleasantly surprised she would have won if not for the injury. Why would I be bitter about seeing what a superior player Serena is to Maria. :)

Robbie.
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:53 AM
It would help if the thread starter realized what most of the criticism regarding Maria at least today is about. And there is a difference between flat out hating a player, any tennis player and criticising actions. Not knowing the difference and that there is one is sad in itself.I agree. But its a fine line between a genuine criticism and the use of an action or a quote as justification to have a go at a player simply because you dislike them. The first thing is fine, the second is not. I think that line is often crossed on this site.

Diesel
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:56 AM
I agree. But its a fine line between a genuine criticism and the use of an action or a quote as justification to have a go at a player simply because you dislike them. The first thing is fine, the second is not. I think that line is often crossed on this site.

Speaking only for myself, I criticised Maria's lack of including Serena in any form as an opponent in her speech. That is not having hatred in my person for Maria. I don't use foul language - you won't see bitches or hags, or whatever else is common place at this message board about Maria or any other player.

Robbie.
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:06 AM
Speaking only for myself, I criticised Maria's lack of including Serena in any form as an opponent in her speech. That is not having hatred in my person for Maria. I don't use foul language - you won't see bitches or hags, or whatever else is common place at this message board about Maria or any other player.
Then we should get along fine :wavey:

I think as a general rule people should think to themselves before their post
(1) If my favourite player did this would I think it was so bad?
(2) I dont know this person, so cussing them out is probably not the right thing to do.
(3) Consider that players are HUMAN, and they aren't politicians (thank goodness :lol: ) Sometimes they say stuff, especially when put on the spot, that comes out wrong.

franny
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:30 AM
People hated Martina
People hated Venus
People hated Serena
People hate Maria

Success=fame, fame=jeolousy, bitterness, and hate. You've got to take the good with the bad. What can you do. When you are successful, people will gun for you, and when people gun for you and don't succeed at it, they hate.

Junex
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Good post, except your wrong about Martina, she was one of the most hated players during her time at the top. She was more hated than Maria.

Really all the hate should be seen as a compliment. It means Maria's a success and keeps reminding the jealous cretins of how meaningless their lives are.


The more hate for Maria the more suiccessful she will be and the more chances she will have to make them haters eat their own words!

i just can laugh off my ass thinking about the post regarding Maria's chances at this YEC. Pure hate and when they were proven wrong....more hate.

poor patethic people!!!

Robbie.
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:33 AM
People hated Martina
People hated Venus
People hated Serena
People hate Maria

Success=fame, fame=jeolousy, bitterness, and hate. You've got to take the good with the bad. What can you do. When you are successful, people will gun for you, and when people gun for you and don't succeed at it, they hate.exactly, it's sad isn't it? :lol:

Andy.
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:39 AM
Maria does not deserve the Absoloute hatred she gets. Its absoloutly foul and horrible. Everyone has different favourites so what there is no need to attack another player just because they are not one of your Favs or they beat one of your favs. What has Maria done. She is a great player and deserves to be where she is in the game. Cut the Maria Bashing she doesnt deserve it.

xr6turbo
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:52 AM
Omg .... yes! I admit it! I wish Maria had gotten injured and could barely serve. Then Serena could've embarressed herself by only winning 2 of the first 16 points in the set and having a mental breakdown and then barely closing out the match 6-4 against Maria who was hitting lollypop shots at the end. And I wish Serena could've overreacted during the whole set and while Maria looked hurt and in pain, Serena could've been screaming CMON and pumping her fist looking like an idiot. And then when Serena won, Richard couldve run down the stairs and then yelled "F*ck you!" to an official and then Serena could've totally ignored Maria's injury in her speech and Maria's fighting ability and Maria being able to be a gratious loser ............ geez ..... I wish it had happened like that, I must be bitter .... :lol: :lol::tape:

:worship:

Masharapova
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:09 AM
I agree with Lemonskin. Masha haters are ridiculing her fans of her win!!!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:20 AM
Oh boo hoo, cry me a river with this :hysteric: :crying2: :sobbing: People have opinions. Learn how to take them. Learn how to read posts. Maybe then you'll catch a clue. Maria isn't so special that she should be a sacred cow not subject to criticism or her actions that to people's ire. Get over it.
well said! :)

kikker
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:21 AM
you allways have haters no matter what, everyones favourite get
critized no matter what they achieve but i do agree that some
people get overboard :o they are just in DENIAL and wont exept that
maria is a great player. But sadly enough you can't do anything about it
people have their opinion and we have to somehow accept it
But people can we please tone the hatred a couple of 1000's notches down

Amen :)

Lemonskin.
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:31 AM
I don't think the thread starter is taking criticism badly. I think he is just sick of the nonsense, as all impartial observers are.

But it's OK, I've been a Martina fan and a Jenn fan so I know not to take any shit from the haters
Serena and Venus fans will know the same.
Sharapova fans will learn to live with it too, by this time next year the hate will be like water off a ducks back.

And yes anyone who HATES a tennis player they don't even know has seriously problems in their life.
:worship: Exactly! All of it spot-on.

Greatest
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:33 AM
you allways have haters no matter what, everyones favourite get
critized no matter what they achieve but i do agree that some
people get overboard :o they are just in DENIAL and wont exept that
maria is a great player. But sadly enough you can't do anything about it
people have their opinion and we have to somehow accept it
But people can we please tone the hatred a couple of 1000's notches down

Amen :)

Serena was once again unable to close the deal against the talented 17 year old russian. first wimbledon and now the wta championships. congratulations, Maria! well done! that 3rd set comeback was spectacular.

As far as serena's concerned, as unfortunate as it was to watch her struggle in that 3rd set, it somehow became clear that she's a mere ghost of her former self. she seems to be mostly hollywood diva at this point. her champion's focus is slowly giving way to resignation. i think we're witnessing the passing of the torch.

xr6turbo
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:36 AM
Serena was once again unable to close the deal against the talented 17 year old russian. first wimbledon and now the wta championships. congratulations, Maria! well done! that 3rd set comeback was spectacular.

As far as serena's concerned, as unfortunate as it was to watch her struggle in that 3rd set, it somehow became clear that she's a mere ghost of her former self. she seems to be mostly hollywood diva at this point. her champion's focus is slowly giving way to resignation. i think we're witnessing the passing of the torch.

Perhaps it was because she got injured and started serving at 50mph... Any club player can return that shit. If Serena wasnt injured she would have whooped Maria's screaming ass.

:wavey:

kikker
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:38 AM
Perhaps it was because she got injured and started serving at 50mph... Any club player can return that shit. If Serena wasnt injured she would have whooped Maria's screaming ass.

:wavey:

well you'll never now for sure would you

Greatest
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:44 AM
Perhaps it was because she got injured and started serving at 50mph... Any club player can return that shit. If Serena wasnt injured she would have whooped Maria's screaming ass.

:wavey:

please stop using injuries as an excuse, Serena got beat, by the end of the year most players are tired and injured, Maria like in Wimbledon was just better.

xr6turbo
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:52 AM
please stop using injuries as an excuse, Serena got beat, by the end of the year most players are tired and injured, Maria like in Wimbledon was just better.

An excuse? lmao Did you actually wee Serena serving in the 3rd set?? :rolleyes: She would hit a 50mph serve and Maria would hit a winner and scream like it was the most spectacular return ever.. :rolleyes:

t_fan
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:52 AM
Get over it LS. You can't change it by asking rhetoric questions. One should wait like a couple of thousands of years to see some improvement in that area. Humankind is still too close to their monkey ancestors emotions-wise.

t_fan
Nov 16th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Perhaps it was because she got injured and started serving at 50mph... Any club player can return that shit. If Serena wasnt injured she would have whooped Maria's screaming ass.

Why did she get injured? Most probably she had overdone herself trying to blast those 120+ mph serves. While the beginning of 3rd set showed that she would've done nicely relying more on the placement, not power. So perhaps it was her and only her mistake. And she definitely should've tried to serve underhanded. Some of her winners were way faster that those painful to watch serves. What do you think pushed her to exert so much energy attempting to overpower Masha? I think in the 2nd set she kind of felt the initiative/advantage was going to Masha. So I'm not too sure Serena would've won even not injured.

Martian Willow
Nov 16th, 2004, 10:04 AM
What's amusing isn't so much the hatred but the fact that most of it is coming from people who who spend 75% of their time on the board foaming at the mouth and screaming racism whenever anyone says anything remotely critical about one of their beloved faves, but they don't pause to draw breath when there's a chance to slag off anyone else, usually for exactly the same things. And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)

DevilishAttitude
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:11 PM
She's a threat to Serena = hatred by all Williams fans :o

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:13 PM
Boy, this is completely ludicrous now. Before, there was contempt for Maria. Now it seems to have bloomed into full-blown hatred. It's completely ridiculous.

GET THE HELL OVER IT MARIA HATERS.

She's a great player. Whether you like it or not.

....

I agree that her father is WAAAAAY over-the-top.

I agree that she's been used as a marketing tool a lot. But it's not like it's her fault that mother nature decided to make her attractive.

I agree that IMG is exploiting her and making bad decisions.

BUT THAT'S NO REASON for this intense, seething hate that exists around her. This YEC title win has pushed the situation from annoying and stupid and downright disgusting. What has she as a person done to deserve it? All she does is go out there and try her best to win, LIKE ANY PLAYER. And yet for some reason she is easily the most hated player on this board.

...

What I'd like to do is do a comparison to Svetlana Kuznetsova. They have taken almost identical routes this year. They both started out the year ranked in the 30's. They both won some smaller tournaments, and a first Grand Slam. And yet the only way people get talking about Svetlana is when she makes an "uncalled for" comment about another player. Maria can't walk down the bloody street without there being an article about it and 10,000 people queuing up to say why she's stupid. I just don't get it.

What about Martina Hingis? She was a young prodigy. She was attractive. She was everything Maria is (and more) and yet she's one of the most loved players. So why is Maria so hated?

...

Maria is going to be around for at least another 10 years (as long as she stays healthy, touch wood). You people are going to have to put up with her for a long time so I suggest you get over your childish hatred for her. Myself, and other Maria fans are absolutely sick of it.

ROTFLMFAO. and you're so nice about the Williams sisters right?

get a clue. :)

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:14 PM
She's a threat to Serena = hatred by all Williams fans :o

sweeping generalisation there.

explain why Williams fans are fans of many other top players :o

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:15 PM
And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)

pot. kettle. black :)

DevilishAttitude
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:25 PM
sweeping generalisation there.

explain why Williams fans are fans of many other top players :o

Yeah but name 5 Williams fans who like Sharapova ;)

ace4lleykim
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:30 PM
One thing that I don't like about her is her elocution. It's just ridiculous that she keeps laughing to herself, and her tone is just weird. If she wants to win more titles, then she needs some lessons of elocution.

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 05:44 PM
Yeah but name 5 Williams fans who like Sharapova ;)

gamewise?

me
rokkstarr
venusforever
trinesereno
lindsayrocks89

off the top of my head.

can you think of any Maria fans (apart from the Cat) who have anything positive to say (consistently) about the Williams Sisters?

Truthwillout
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:42 PM
What's amusing isn't so much the hatred but the fact that most of it is coming from people who who spend 75% of their time on the board foaming at the mouth and screaming racism whenever anyone says anything remotely critical about one of their beloved faves, but they don't pause to draw breath when there's a chance to slag off anyone else, usually for exactly the same things. And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)
You said it. The attitude you described is what is called 'double standard judgement' or 'two weights two measures'. But I guess that contributes to GM's overall fun.

mykarma
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:49 PM
Yeah but name 5 Williams fans who like Sharapova ;)First of all, what difference should it make whether Williams fans like Maria or not. Second, liking her and hating her are two different things. Third, I guess you like the Williams sisters.

faste5683
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:52 PM
What's amusing isn't so much the hatred but the fact that most of it is coming from people who who spend 75% of their time on the board foaming at the mouth and screaming racism whenever anyone says anything remotely critical about one of their beloved faves, but they don't pause to draw breath when there's a chance to slag off anyone else, usually for exactly the same things. And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)

Can I use this in my sig file?

:wavey:

Fingon
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:52 PM
Most of the hate surrounding Maria has to do with her attitude. It stinks. Get over it. If she wasn't such an ungracious winner then there would not be as many threads.
not really, I bet you there would be something, since Maria won Wimbledon we were constantly bombarded in a daily basis by thread about how she was all hype, how she couldn't win on a surface other than grass or anything bigger than a tier III, blah, blah.

When it became obvious even to the most recalcitrant posters that these argument could not longer be used without looking even worse (if that's possible) then they found new ways.

And it's sad IMO, because Serena is a great champion, who has achieved more than anyone currently in the tour with the exception of Monica. She is going through a bad patch but she showed a true champion spirit by fighting to the end.
Some of her fans, instead of acknowledging that, and admitting she is human, prefer to degrade her opponents as a way to vent out their anger.
Do I need to remind you what the attitude has been against any player who beat either sister? their attituded are analyzed inch by inch, trying to find something to moan about, remember Karolina Sprem?, she was the devil just because an stupid umpire favoured her, Lisa Raymond was an ungracious winner and so on.
I've seen some Williams fans trying to get the positive out of their defeats, analyzing what is wrong with the sisters. But many others feel offended if someone suggests they have to improve their game, and prefer to find their opponents' evilness rather than face reality.
Mark my words, if next time Maria beats Venus or Serena she is the most gracious player ever, they will still criticize her, it will be her father, she is too tall, she is too blonde or whatever.
If Maria beats another player it won't be anything.
If somebody else beats Venus or Serena, there will be unstoppable bitchiness against that player.
I've seen it too many times, am I surprised? not in the slightest, it would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic.

Calimero377
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Boy, this is completely ludicrous now. Before, there was contempt for Maria. Now it seems to have bloomed into full-blown hatred. It's completely ridiculous.

....
What about Martina Hingis? She was a young prodigy. She was attractive. She was everything Maria is (and more) and yet she's one of the most loved players. So why is Maria so hated? ....


Hingis one of the most loved players?
:confused:
You cannot be serious ......




....
Maria is going to be around for at least another 10 years (as long as she stays healthy, touch wood). You people are going to have to put up with her for a long time so I suggest you get over your childish hatred for her. Myself, and other Maria fans are absolutely sick of it.


Maria will be around for at least another 10 years probably.
But she will fade away as Seles, Hingis, Venus before her.
A 3-year-wonder, maximum .....

SzavayFi
Nov 16th, 2004, 06:56 PM
I really dont like Maria, never have....never will.

bandabou
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:01 PM
not really, I bet you there would be something, since Maria won Wimbledon we were constantly bombarded in a daily basis by thread about how she was all hype, how she couldn't win on a surface other than grass or anything bigger than a tier III, blah, blah.

When it became obvious even to the most recalcitrant posters that these argument could not longer be used without looking even worse (if that's possible) then they found new ways.

And it's sad IMO, because Serena is a great champion, who has achieved more than anyone currently in the tour with the exception of Monica. She is going through a bad patch but she showed a true champion spirit by fighting to the end.
Some of her fans, instead of acknowledging that, and admitting she is human, prefer to degrade her opponents as a way to vent out their anger.
Do I need to remind you what the attitude has been against any player who beat either sister? their attituded are analyzed inch by inch, trying to find something to moan about, remember Karolina Sprem?, she was the devil just because an stupid umpire favoured her, Lisa Raymond was an ungracious winner and so on.
I've seen some Williams fans trying to get the positive out of their defeats, analyzing what is wrong with the sisters. But many others feel offended if someone suggests they have to improve their game, and prefer to find their opponents' evilness rather than face reality.
Mark my words, if next time Maria beats Venus or Serena she is the most gracious player ever, they will still criticize her, it will be her father, she is too tall, she is too blonde or whatever.
If Maria beats another player it won't be anything.
If somebody else beats Venus or Serena, there will be unstoppable bitchiness against that player.
I've seen it too many times, am I surprised? not in the slightest, it would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic.

Wow...Iīm a Serena-fan..but this a very good post.

DevilishAttitude
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:03 PM
First of all, what difference should it make whether Williams fans like Maria or not. Second, liking her and hating her are two different things. Third, I guess you like the Williams sisters.

#1 Yes :)
#2 Really what a shock to me :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
#3 Not really :)

SjuTjuD
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:06 PM
What's amusing isn't so much the hatred but the fact that most of it is coming from people who who spend 75% of their time on the board foaming at the mouth and screaming racism whenever anyone says anything remotely critical about one of their beloved faves, but they don't pause to draw breath when there's a chance to slag off anyone else, usually for exactly the same things. And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)


It's even more amusing that the others claiming there is a double standard on the off days are the hateful ones. It's hard looking in the mirror it seems :lol:

vutt
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Boy, this is completely ludicrous now. Before, there was contempt for Maria. Now it seems to have bloomed into full-blown hatred. It's completely ridiculous.C'mon you can't force everybody to love your fave. :rolleyes:

and btw. obviously if so many of us do not like her then there has to be reason somewhere.
and most of all I'm pretty sure you won't change anything by starting this kind of threads.

Thats just life deal with it and stop moaning... :wavey:

darrinbaker00
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:14 PM
How anyone can have nothing but the utmost respect for either of those young ladies after watching last night's match is beyond me. Serena very easily (and justifiably) could have quit after the second set with her injury. Maria very easily (and, given her lack of experience and maturity, justifiably) could have quit after getting into that 0-4 hole in the third set. Maria did a better job overcoming her mental problems than Serena did with her physical problems, and that's why she won. I have questioned Serena's dedication to tennis on several occasions, and she proved me wrong in a huge way last night. Hopefully, this was the beginning of the next Great Tennis Rivalry. Let's all enjoy it, shall we?

bandabou
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:15 PM
I donīt hate Maria...I admit I was dissapointed when she beat Serena at wimbledon. What got on my nerves is how she promptly got bombarded as the best thing to happen to tennis, etc....

I also thought it was a flukey win, because she didnīt have results at the big events..but since China open she really has picked up and the fluke is over.

SjuTjuD
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:16 PM
Exactly. The BABIES of the board who complain about double standard are usually the first to jump on players, other than their 2 precious faves, for every possible stupid reason.


You obviously didn't get it :lol: all this is are hypocrites calling other fans hypocrites for the same exact behavior. Maria, Serena and the so called impartial fans who just find their ways into these kind of posts. Hypocrites all of ya :lol:

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:17 PM
Exactly. The BABIES of the board who complain about double standard are usually the first to jump on players, other than their 2 precious faves, for every possible stupid reason.

ROTFLMFAO :lol::lol::lol:

wait, no Maria fans ever complain right? *takes a look at thread title*

oh wait...yet another double standard :o Maria fans are allowed to complain about other people complaining about Maria, but fans of other players aren't allowed to make a sound, cuz that would make US the hypocrites :scratch:

your logic is astounding. :)

SJW
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:24 PM
I never said Maria fans never complain.

I never said fans of other players aren't allowed to make a sound.

You completely missed the point of my post.

i did huh? tell me what it was then. cuz i'm pretty sure i got it :)

Helen Lawson
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Nature's first green is gold.

mandy7
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:35 PM
Nature's first green is gold.
:scratch: amen!

Jaime Bahena
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:35 PM
People hated Martina
People hated Venus
People hated Serena
People hate Maria

Success=fame, fame=jeolousy, bitterness, and hate. You've got to take the good with the bad. What can you do. When you are successful, people will gun for you, and when people gun for you and don't succeed at it, they hate.

Good points. I'm sure R. Williams told his daughters that "sister haters" would talk trash about them, hoping to throw them off their game. Little do fans know that some players use that sort of hatred [envy?] to motivate themselves. In other words, it's having the opposite effect that the people talking trash want it to have. If you want for Maria to continue climbing higher, keep talking trash, and she's going to the #1 spot. Holy cow, she's at #4 right now!!!!

GoDominique
Nov 16th, 2004, 07:38 PM
i did huh? tell me what it was then. cuz i'm pretty sure i got it :)
Yeah, like you got that the thread about Amelie's "quotes" was a troll thread. :)

Greatest
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:15 PM
I donīt hate Maria...I admit I was dissapointed when she beat Serena at wimbledon. What got on my nerves is how she promptly got bombarded as the best thing to happen to tennis, etc....

I also thought it was a flukey win, because she didnīt have results at the big events..but since China open she really has picked up and the fluke is over.


You may put off accepting the inevitable if you wish, but the writing's on the wall: the passing of the torch to the Teen Phenom Maria Sharapova is taking place and we saw part of it unfold in last night's match.

The Sharapova Era has finally begun.

Lemonskin.
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:21 PM
not really, I bet you there would be something, since Maria won Wimbledon we were constantly bombarded in a daily basis by thread about how she was all hype, how she couldn't win on a surface other than grass or anything bigger than a tier III, blah, blah.

When it became obvious even to the most recalcitrant posters that these argument could not longer be used without looking even worse (if that's possible) then they found new ways.

And it's sad IMO, because Serena is a great champion, who has achieved more than anyone currently in the tour with the exception of Monica. She is going through a bad patch but she showed a true champion spirit by fighting to the end.
Some of her fans, instead of acknowledging that, and admitting she is human, prefer to degrade her opponents as a way to vent out their anger.
Do I need to remind you what the attitude has been against any player who beat either sister? their attituded are analyzed inch by inch, trying to find something to moan about, remember Karolina Sprem?, she was the devil just because an stupid umpire favoured her, Lisa Raymond was an ungracious winner and so on.
I've seen some Williams fans trying to get the positive out of their defeats, analyzing what is wrong with the sisters. But many others feel offended if someone suggests they have to improve their game, and prefer to find their opponents' evilness rather than face reality.
Mark my words, if next time Maria beats Venus or Serena she is the most gracious player ever, they will still criticize her, it will be her father, she is too tall, she is too blonde or whatever.
If Maria beats another player it won't be anything.
If somebody else beats Venus or Serena, there will be unstoppable bitchiness against that player.
I've seen it too many times, am I surprised? not in the slightest, it would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic.
That's exactly right.

Plus I'll bet a lot of the haters are just glory hunters who jumped on the Williams Sisters bandwagon because they were sucessful, not because they played awesome tennis. These people now can't hack the fact that the sisters are no longer unbeatable.

(Just to clarify this is not "having a go" at the Sisters)

SjuTjuD
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:23 PM
That's exactly right.

Plus I'll bet a lot of the haters are just glory hunters who jumped on the Williams Sisters bandwagon because they were sucessful, not because they played awesome tennis. These people now can't hack the fact that the sisters are no longer unbeatable.

(Just to clarify this is not "having a go" at the Sisters)

Isn't it a go at the sisters really?

You imply the sisters don't have real fans, just glory seekers. But if that were the case why don't they jump on Maria's bandwagon now?

Next theory?

Lemonskin.
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:29 PM
Isn't it a go at the sisters really?

You imply the sisters don't have real fans, just glory seekers. But if that were the case why don't they jump on Maria's bandwagon now?

Next theory?
No it wan't a go at the Sisters.

What I was saying is that there are A LOT of fans like that.

I know that there are many real fans who love the sisters for their game and thier personality.

But there's a bunch of people on this board (and there's just as many claiming to be Maria fans) who aren't fans for any of the right reasons. And they usually make brash, uncalled-for statements like "so and so is crap and will never win again" or whatever.

Real fans can take a loss. You could tell by how many so-called "Maria fans" stopped after Maria was losing after Wimbledon. And now there's a rash of newbies jumping on Maria's wagon after this win. I guess you can't stop it.

SjuTjuD
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:30 PM
No it wan't a go at the Sisters.

What I was saying is that there are A LOT of fans like that.

I know that there are many real fans who love the sisters for their game and thier personality.

But there's a bunch of people on this board (and there's just as many claiming to be Maria fans) who aren't fans for any of the right reasons. And they usually make brash, uncalled-for statements like "so and so is crap and will never win again" or whatever.

Real fans can take a loss. You could tell by how many so-called "Maria fans" stopped after Maria was losing after Wimbledon. And now there's a rash of newbies jumping on Maria's wagon after this win. I guess you can't stop it.


Oh okay, I understand. There are too many "fans" who make their so called faves look awful. Travesty. Good point.

DeDe4925
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:44 PM
You obviously didn't get it :lol: all this is are hypocrites calling other fans hypocrites for the same exact behavior. Maria, Serena and the so called impartial fans who just find their ways into these kind of posts. Hypocrites all of ya :lol:
That is exactly what I was thinking. Weren't all these people attacking Serena a few days ago about her saying something they didn't like after losing to Lindsay. Now, it's not okay for people to attack Maria? It's like the Bush syndrome. It's okay for me to do whatever I want to do, but if you critisize me for it, then you're unpatriotic. In this case hypocritical. :rolleyes: Williams and/or Serena Fans Who Hate Maria Sharapova Unite. :lol: Don't buy the bullshit. The same people calling us hypocrites are the epitome of hypocrisy. Like the Republicans they want to turn it around on us and attempt to make us feel bad in order to get us to stop attacking or criticizing their precious Maria (gag). But, mark my words, the next chance they get to attack Serena or Venus, and I mean vehemently, they will. It's reverse psychology. But, I say fuck'em. Yeah, I hate that little goofy ass bitch and her lunatic father and you can call me pathetic and say I need help all you want to. I don't give a damn. That's just how I feel. It doesn't interfere with my life and I know it's not Christian, but that's how I feel right now. That is the nature of sports and having favorites, and if some of you didn't have your heads stuck up your asses most of the time, you'd realize that. :rolleyes: So, just like I felt about Hingis, JenCap and Justine, i.e. hating them for a period, my feelings of hatred for Maria will dissipate after Serena has had a chance to royally kick her ass on the courts a couple of times, and turn into a mere dislike or disdaine. So, if you don't like it, get over it. I really don't care.

Truthwillout
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:49 PM
Nature's first green is gold.

Not here, green usually loses to red on GM, doesn'it? :wavey:

Justeenium
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Actually, I hate Serena more than ever now :devil:

Truthwillout
Nov 16th, 2004, 08:51 PM
not really, I bet you there would be something, since Maria won Wimbledon we were constantly bombarded in a daily basis by thread about how she was all hype, how she couldn't win on a surface other than grass or anything bigger than a tier III, blah, blah.

When it became obvious even to the most recalcitrant posters that these argument could not longer be used without looking even worse (if that's possible) then they found new ways.

And it's sad IMO, because Serena is a great champion, who has achieved more than anyone currently in the tour with the exception of Monica. She is going through a bad patch but she showed a true champion spirit by fighting to the end.
Some of her fans, instead of acknowledging that, and admitting she is human, prefer to degrade her opponents as a way to vent out their anger.
Do I need to remind you what the attitude has been against any player who beat either sister? their attituded are analyzed inch by inch, trying to find something to moan about, remember Karolina Sprem?, she was the devil just because an stupid umpire favoured her, Lisa Raymond was an ungracious winner and so on.
I've seen some Williams fans trying to get the positive out of their defeats, analyzing what is wrong with the sisters. But many others feel offended if someone suggests they have to improve their game, and prefer to find their opponents' evilness rather than face reality.
Mark my words, if next time Maria beats Venus or Serena she is the most gracious player ever, they will still criticize her, it will be her father, she is too tall, she is too blonde or whatever.
If Maria beats another player it won't be anything.
If somebody else beats Venus or Serena, there will be unstoppable bitchiness against that player.
I've seen it too many times, am I surprised? not in the slightest, it would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic.
:worship: :worship:

Martian Willow
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:06 PM
pot. kettle. black :)

It's even more amusing that the others claiming there is a double standard on the off days are the hateful ones. It's hard looking in the mirror it seems :lol:


When am I ever hateful? :)

Abandon
Nov 16th, 2004, 09:55 PM
When am I ever hateful? :)

Moody yes. Hateful never! ;)

Jaime Bahena
Nov 16th, 2004, 11:05 PM
Actually, I hate Serena more than ever now :devil:

Don't be hatin', especially another American. Can't we all just get along?

Jaime Bahena
Nov 16th, 2004, 11:07 PM
What's amusing isn't so much the hatred but the fact that most of it is coming from people who who spend 75% of their time on the board foaming at the mouth and screaming racism whenever anyone says anything remotely critical about one of their beloved faves, but they don't pause to draw breath when there's a chance to slag off anyone else, usually for exactly the same things. And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)

...must be a college professor, judging by the eloquence of your post.

Jaime Bahena
Nov 16th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Actually, I hate Serena more than ever now :devil:

Funny you should mention "hate." Now that Masha beat Serena for a second time in a final, all the people that hate the sisters [for being great tennis players] are going to hate Maria. Combine that with all the people that hate Anna K for being "just a pretty face" and these people are going to hate Maria as well. When will the hatred end?

Jaime Bahena
Nov 16th, 2004, 11:14 PM
She's a threat to Serena = hatred by all Williams fans :o
= hate yo punk a**.

bovina_forever
Nov 16th, 2004, 11:18 PM
there will always be some one that a big mass of people hate or dislike people can't all like the same players so really people should stop yelling at each other about who is better

jacobruiz
Nov 16th, 2004, 11:33 PM
How anyone can have nothing but the utmost respect for either of those young ladies after watching last night's match is beyond me. Serena very easily (and justifiably) could have quit after the second set with her injury. Maria very easily (and, given her lack of experience and maturity, justifiably) could have quit after getting into that 0-4 hole in the third set. Maria did a better job overcoming her mental problems than Serena did with her physical problems, and that's why she won. I have questioned Serena's dedication to tennis on several occasions, and she proved me wrong in a huge way last night. Hopefully, this was the beginning of the next Great Tennis Rivalry. Let's all enjoy it, shall we?
:worship: :worship:

Thank you! This is exactly how I felt after watching the match last night. I can't believe some people saw it so differently!

faboozadoo15
Nov 17th, 2004, 12:16 AM
How anyone can have nothing but the utmost respect for either of those young ladies after watching last night's match is beyond me. Serena very easily (and justifiably) could have quit after the second set with her injury. Maria very easily (and, given her lack of experience and maturity, justifiably) could have quit after getting into that 0-4 hole in the third set. Maria did a better job overcoming her mental problems than Serena did with her physical problems, and that's why she won. I have questioned Serena's dedication to tennis on several occasions, and she proved me wrong in a huge way last night. Hopefully, this was the beginning of the next Great Tennis Rivalry. Let's all enjoy it, shall we?
beautiful post! hopefully more people will begin to see it this way. it was a match (anyway you look at it) of great fight, big names, big shots, big everything. if there had been a neutral third set, who knows what could have heppened? what we do know is that they both put their hearts out there and wouldn't probably enjoy the hate that is going back and forth.

faboozadoo15
Nov 17th, 2004, 12:19 AM
Actually, I hate Serena more than ever now :devil:
why???
(or is that sarcasm :confused:)
if anything i have even more respect for her. what she was doing wasn't easy, and her desperation mode kinda reminded me of monica :eek: and that's a HUGE compliment coming from me.
plus se said nice things in her interview.

BlackMoriah
Nov 17th, 2004, 12:24 AM
This match reminded me so much of the Roland Garros final this year between Coria and Gaudio. It was incredible :worship: . Great spirit from both :worship:

DeDe4925
Nov 17th, 2004, 02:08 AM
beautiful post! hopefully more people will begin to see it this way. it was a match (anyway you look at it) of great fight, big names, big shots, big everything. if there had been a neutral third set, who knows what could have heppened? what we do know is that they both put their hearts out there and wouldn't probably enjoy the hate that is going back and forth.
Everybody now...Kumbye ya my Lord...Kumbye yaaaaa :lol:

Crazy Canuck
Nov 17th, 2004, 04:22 AM
Could Lemonskin possibly be more of a :retard:?

Discuss.

DeDe4925
Nov 17th, 2004, 04:30 AM
Could Lemonskin possibly be more of a :retard:?

Discuss.
:lol: I don't know if that's even possible. :lol:

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Nov 17th, 2004, 04:30 AM
You may put off accepting the inevitable if you wish, but the writing's on the wall: the passing of the torch to the Teen Phenom Maria Sharapova is taking place and we saw part of it unfold in last night's match.

The Sharapova Era has finally begun.

User "Greatest," this year was only the preamble... :rolleyes:

TennisTutor
Nov 17th, 2004, 04:32 AM
We're talking about the 2004 Wimbledon Champion.
Let’s try and show a little respect please.
:angel:

Fingon
Nov 17th, 2004, 06:26 AM
That is exactly what I was thinking. Weren't all these people attacking Serena a few days ago about her saying something they didn't like after losing to Lindsay. Now, it's not okay for people to attack Maria?

since I didn't criticize Serena yes, I can say it's not ok to criticize Maria, I don't even know what they were criticizing about Serena but for sure there weren't like 300 threads about it or I would have noticed.

It's like the Bush syndrome. It's okay for me to do whatever I want to do, but if you critisize me for it, then you're unpatriotic. In this case hypocritical. :rolleyes:
talking of going off topic

Williams and/or Serena Fans Who Hate Maria Sharapova Unite. :lol: Don't buy the bullshit. The same people calling us hypocrites are the epitome of hypocrisy.

I am not, and I don't call you (in a collective way) hypocrites, I called you pathetic, there is a difference.

Like the Republicans they want to turn it around on us and attempt to make us feel bad in order to get us to stop attacking or criticizing their precious Maria (gag).

again, off topic, the republicans have a fuck to do with this. this is not a political thread, go to non-tennis if you want to talk politics :rolleyes:

But, mark my words, the next chance they get to attack Serena or Venus, and I mean vehemently, they will. It's reverse psychology.

and what the fuck is reverse psychology? it's the patient analyzing the doctor? :confused:


But, I say fuck'em. Yeah, I hate that little goofy ass bitch and her lunatic father and you can call me pathetic and say I need help all you want to. I don't give a damn.

good, because you are pathetic and look jealous, I think the worst sin Maria has committed is to be pretty, something difficult to diggest for you isn't it?

That's just how I feel. It doesn't interfere with my life and I know it's not Christian, but that's how I feel right now.

it isn't christian and I don't give a fuck but I still think you are pathetic.

That is the nature of sports and having favorites, and if some of you didn't have your heads stuck up your asses most of the time, you'd realize that. :rolleyes:

in any case it would be the nature of the fans, not the sport, anyway, I didn't think the nature of the fans or sport or whatever was to be a pathetic sore loser.

So, just like I felt about Hingis, JenCap and Justine, i.e. hating them for a period, my feelings of hatred for Maria will dissipate after Serena has had a chance to royally kick her ass on the courts a couple of times, and turn into a mere dislike or disdaine. So, if you don't like it, get over it. I really don't care.
there you go, finally an admission, it's not anything that Maria did or didn't do or yes, it's something that Maria did, beating Serena, at least you are honest.

DeDe4925
Nov 17th, 2004, 06:46 AM
since I didn't criticize Serena yes, I can say it's not ok to criticize Maria, I don't even know what they were criticizing about Serena but for sure there weren't like 300 threads about it or I would have noticed.
talking of going off topic

I am not, and I don't call you (in a collective way) hypocrites, I called you pathetic, there is a difference.

again, off topic, the republicans have a fuck to do with this. this is not a political thread, go to non-tennis if you want to talk politics :rolleyes:

and what the fuck is reverse psychology? it's the patient analyzing the doctor? :confused:


good, because you are pathetic and look jealous, I think the worst sin Maria has committed is to be pretty, something difficult to diggest for you isn't it?

it isn't christian and I don't give a fuck but I still think you are pathetic.

in any case it would be the nature of the fans, not the sport, anyway, I didn't think the nature of the fans or sport or whatever was to be a pathetic sore loser.

there you go, finally an admission, it's not anything that Maria did or didn't do or yes, it's something that Maria did, beating Serena, at least you are honest.
Well, first of all, at least we have something in common. We both think each other is pathetic. Secondly, you're addressing my post like I'm talking about you personally. Is it paranoia you suffer from or an overexaggerated ego? You nor your posts were in my last thoughts. I was making a general statement. Get a clue fingon, I don't care what you think about me or my posts. So, what made you take my post so personally and feel the need to respond in such a way?

BTW, "reverse psychology" is when you ask for or do the opposite of what you want and end up with what you really wanted through manipulation.

Sharapova's_Boy
Nov 17th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Lemonskin :hug:

Don't worry about it, they're just jealous of Maria because she beats all their faves. :)

Lemonskin.
Nov 17th, 2004, 07:12 AM
Actually, I hate Serena more than ever now :devil:
Well that's no good either.

I just don't get how, unless someone does something deliberately to hurt you in some way, that you could HATE anyone.

blablabla
Nov 17th, 2004, 07:17 AM
She's brilliant, Maria.

Jan2005
Nov 17th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Yup, she's the total package! Precision skill combined with beauty, style and grace.

I'm just grateful to be able to see her play, she's definitely the future of women's tennis.

Fingon
Nov 17th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Well, first of all, at least we have something in common. We both think each other is pathetic. Secondly, you're addressing my post like I'm talking about you personally. Is it paranoia you suffer from or an overexaggerated ego? You nor your posts were in my last thoughts. I was making a general statement. Get a clue fingon, I don't care what you think about me or my posts. So, what made you take my post so personally and feel the need to respond in such a way?

BTW, "reverse psychology" is when you ask for or do the opposite of what you want and end up with what you really wanted through manipulation.
now you are also a liar, because you did dissect my post on another thread (same issue), so don't act all innocent here.

jacobruiz
Nov 17th, 2004, 05:42 PM
Well, first of all, at least we have something in common. We both think each other is pathetic. Secondly, you're addressing my post like I'm talking about you personally. Is it paranoia you suffer from or an overexaggerated ego? You nor your posts were in my last thoughts. I was making a general statement. Get a clue fingon, I don't care what you think about me or my posts. So, what made you take my post so personally and feel the need to respond in such a way?

BTW, "reverse psychology" is when you ask for or do the opposite of what you want and end up with what you really wanted through manipulation.
So if someone addresses your posts and refutes the points you are trying to make the person is suffering from paranoia or an overexaggerated ego? I guess there's just no sense arguing with you then, is there?
You do know the meaning of "reverse psychology", though.

DeDe4925
Nov 17th, 2004, 06:19 PM
now you are also a liar, because you did dissect my post on another thread (same issue), so don't act all innocent here.
You are a :retard: and paranoid. What does one thread have to do with the other? The same issue has been floating around on this board since Monday night and when you go from one thread to another, who remembers who posted what where? Goddamn you have an ego the size of Mount Everest. Can't you just see me going from thread to thread thinking and saying to myself, oh let me take an undercover dig here at Fingnon and then I'll just deny it had anything to do with him if he responds. :rolleyes: Get over yourself, dude. :lol: You say I'm a liar because I said this post was not directed at you. How is that a lie? Because I dissected a post of yours on the same issue in another thread? If I dissected one of your posts on another thread, why would it make sense to go to an entirely different thread (even though it may be the same issue) and make a general statement, somehow personally directed at you? :lol: You wasted your time dissecting my post and taking it all so personally and it wasn't even in response to anything you said here or anywhere else. That's hilarious. :haha: You call me a liar because you got caught being wrong and confused. :lol: Contrary to your opinion fingnon, I don't think about you 24-7. :lol:

DeDe4925
Nov 17th, 2004, 06:33 PM
So if someone addresses your posts and refutes the points you are trying to make the person is suffering from paranoia or an overexaggerated ego? I guess there's just no sense arguing with you then, is there?
You do know the meaning of "reverse psychology", though.
Once again, you didn't get the point, but fingnon did.

lorelai
Nov 19th, 2004, 09:40 PM
Well, I certainly don't think Maria deserves any more vilification than anyone else. If she's a good sport, then it will come across & she will be treated with respect regardless of her success, looks, etc (take Mia Hamm for instance). If she's a wanker, then she will be treated as such. But rest assured, either way, she can & will handle it all the way to the bank while all the sucker wannabe athletes & models & celebrities of the world will get on boards like these and make comments, justifiably or not. But i doubt she'll care much unless it somehow affects her game, her money or her grin! She's got enough handlers who will insulate her and thicken her skin, preparing her for the freakish fans as well as the haters. Remember, she's got IMG--the same agency that got Jordan to have no fear in Detroit, Eli to have no fear on draft day in NYC, Deon to have no fear anywhere, and Annika to have no fear making history!

jacobruiz
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:05 PM
Once again, you didn't get the point, but fingnon did.
Your answer is total B.S. as are most of your posts.

Amorc
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:24 PM
What's amusing isn't so much the hatred but the fact that most of it is coming from people who who spend 75% of their time on the board foaming at the mouth and screaming racism whenever anyone says anything remotely critical about one of their beloved faves, but they don't pause to draw breath when there's a chance to slag off anyone else, usually for exactly the same things. And they don't seem to have even an ounce of the self-awareness to know how hypocritical they are.

:)

Excellent post, and sooooo true.

Knizzle
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:30 PM
With all the hate that Maria is receiving, there are other players who are hated 100 times more than her on this board.

Sam L
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Boy, this is completely ludicrous now. Before, there was contempt for Maria. Now it seems to have bloomed into full-blown hatred. It's completely ridiculous.

GET THE HELL OVER IT MARIA HATERS.

She's a great player. Whether you like it or not.

....

I agree that her father is WAAAAAY over-the-top.

I agree that she's been used as a marketing tool a lot. But it's not like it's her fault that mother nature decided to make her attractive.

I agree that IMG is exploiting her and making bad decisions.

BUT THAT'S NO REASON for this intense, seething hate that exists around her. This YEC title win has pushed the situation from annoying and stupid and downright disgusting. What has she as a person done to deserve it? All she does is go out there and try her best to win, LIKE ANY PLAYER. And yet for some reason she is easily the most hated player on this board.

...

What I'd like to do is do a comparison to Svetlana Kuznetsova. They have taken almost identical routes this year. They both started out the year ranked in the 30's. They both won some smaller tournaments, and a first Grand Slam. And yet the only way people get talking about Svetlana is when she makes an "uncalled for" comment about another player. Maria can't walk down the bloody street without there being an article about it and 10,000 people queuing up to say why she's stupid. I just don't get it.

What about Martina Hingis? She was a young prodigy. She was attractive. She was everything Maria is (and more) and yet she's one of the most loved players. So why is Maria so hated?

...

Maria is going to be around for at least another 10 years (as long as she stays healthy, touch wood). You people are going to have to put up with her for a long time so I suggest you get over your childish hatred for her. Myself, and other Maria fans are absolutely sick of it.
You have gotten ridiculous, idiot. Get over it. Your little upstart is making the most out of exploiting the weak status of the tour right now anyway.

gweeny
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Face it people. Maria is very popular right now, and of course she is going to be hated on. I remember 3-4 years ago, when it was all about the Williams domination, there were alot of "disgusting" threads made about them. Some were racially motivated and some were because they hated that Venus and Serena as human beings were so talented.

It's all about jealousy. Venus and Serena received all the hype which came with their great success playing tennis. Sharapova is receiving the same hype because face it, she has been getting some good results in tennis.

I am not exactly a fan of her, but I am more mature than others to bash her. It was wrong to bash Venus and Serena, and it is wrong to bash Maria.

And from looking at the rise and fall (hopefully, they can prove me wrong) of Venus and Serena, Maria is going to "fall" one of these days. In 3 years or so, there will be another female tennis player who is hated by these posters for all the popularity that she has.

Please concentrate on your own lives, and stop arguing over petty things. Maria, Venus and Serena, and the other tennis players do not give a damn about what the posters write about them. They are basking in the money, glory, etc.

wateva
Nov 19th, 2004, 10:47 PM
dun hate maria!!! she won her matches legitimately!!! not like *raises left hand* :p