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vogus
Nov 15th, 2004, 04:23 PM
the Tier 1's are not all equal, they vary widely in terms of prestige and attendance

my list:

1. Miami (#1 by a long way)
2. Charleston
3. Zurich
4. IW
5. Rome
6. Montreal/Toronto
7. Berlin
8. Moscow
9. San Diego (recently changed from Tier 2 and stills feels like one)
10. Tokyo (last by a long way)

i feel like IW has lost some prestige in the last few years as far as getting all the leading players to compete, thats why i ranked it fourth. But 2, 3, and 4 are all very close. In general the North American Tier 1s seem to have a lot more fan backing than the European ones (except Zurich).

~Cherry*Blossom~
Nov 15th, 2004, 04:41 PM
1. Miami
2. Rome
3. Motreal/Toronto
4. IW
5. Zurich
6. Charleston
7. San Diego
8. Berlin
9. Tokyo
10.Moscow

saphir1
Nov 15th, 2004, 04:43 PM
I agree with the last three (from first post)!

In my subjective opinion, Berlin is in first place, but that's because I live in Berlin :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: Also in my objective opinion I think Berlin should be in the upper half. I admit that attendance hasn't been very well in the last years, but however the field of participants has mostly been the best of all tier 1s!!! :)

SJW
Nov 15th, 2004, 04:46 PM
1. Miami
2. Rome
3. Charleston
4. Berlin
5. Toronto/Montreal
6. Zurich
7. San Diego
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8,9,10: Moscow, Tokyo, IW (in any order)

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 15th, 2004, 04:59 PM
if you want historical significance
then Italian Open and Canadian Open, German Open come way ahead of any of the others.

Moscow is gonna get bigger and bigger ;)
i could see it holding a TMS event for ATP and a bigger 56/64 draw for the WTA.


on a side note.
** last yr The women's "Kremlin Cup" - 2003 selected by the players as their favorite from amongst all the Tier I and Tier II tournaments.

vogus
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:05 PM
if you want historical significance
then Italian Open and Canadian Open, German Open come way ahead of any of the others.

Moscow is gonna get bigger and bigger ;)
i could see it holding a TMS event for ATP and a bigger 56/64 draw for the WTA.


on a side note.
** last yr The women's "Kremlin Cup" - 2003 selected by the players as their favorite from amongst all the Tier I and Tier II tournaments.

they would need to build a big new site for that, they only have four courts. And even then they still need to figure out a way to get fans to come to the tournie.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:17 PM
And even then they still need to figure out a way to get fans to come to the tournie.Fans: they get more fans here in 1 day than most tourns all week.
nearly 100000 for whole week.




they would need to build a big new site for that, they only have four courts.thats all you need to host indoor events. (they have 5 actually)

Paris Bercy uses 2 courts for its TMS
Madrid TMS uses 2 (plus one for pointless doubles)

croat123
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:22 PM
1. Miami (feels like a GS)
...
10. Tokyo (feels like a TIV in recent years)

felipe2004
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:22 PM
1. Miami
2. Indian Wells
3. Charleston
4. Zurich
5. Montreal/Toronto
6. Moscow
7. Rome
8. Berlin
9. San Diego
10. Tokyo

Andy T
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:36 PM
If I were a player from none of the countries involved, here's the priority I'd attach to them:
1) Rome
2) Berlin
3) Toronto/Montreal
(because of the history)
4) Charleston
5) Miami
6) Tokyo
7) Zurich
8) Moscow
9) Indian Wells
10) San Diego

SilK
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:40 PM
1. Miami
2. IW
3. Rome
4. Charleston
5. Berlin
6. Moscow
7. Zurich
8. San Diego
9. Montreal/Toronto
10. Tokyo

Wojtek
Nov 15th, 2004, 05:45 PM
1. Canadian Open
2. Indian Weels
3. Rome
4. Miami
5. Zurich
6. Berlin
7. Charlston
8. Tokyo
9. Moscow
10. San Diego

bw2082
Nov 15th, 2004, 06:24 PM
miami
indian wells
rome
zurich
san diego
tokyo
canadian open
moscow
berlin
charleston

jonny84
Nov 15th, 2004, 07:32 PM
1. Miami Nasdaq100 Open
2. Indian Wells
3. Berlin
4. Rome
5. Montreal/Toronto
6. Moscow
7. Zurich
8. Family Circle Cup
9. San Diego
10. Tokyo PPO (too close to Australian Open)

turt
Nov 15th, 2004, 07:35 PM
on a side note.
** last yr The women's "Kremlin Cup" - 2003 selected by the players as their favorite from amongst all the Tier I and Tier II tournaments.I guess the fact there are so many Russian players is not totally estranged to this, because otherwise I've only heard complaints about this event... :confused:

mboyle
Nov 15th, 2004, 07:38 PM
1. Miami
2. Indian Wells

3. Rome

4. Everything else

SilK
Nov 15th, 2004, 07:45 PM
I can not get why people do not put Miami on number 1. I mean, it is known to be called the '5th Grand Slam' :eek:

Philip
Nov 15th, 2004, 07:48 PM
1. Rome
2. Canadian Open
3. Miami
4. Indian Wells
5. Zurich
6. Charleston
7. Berlin
8. Moscow
9. Tokyo PP
10. San Diego

JennyS
Nov 15th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Here's how I would rank them in order of prestige:

1. Miami
2. Rome
3. Berlin
4. Indian Wells
5. Canadian Open
6. Charleston
7. Zurich
8. Moscow
9. San Diego
10. Tokyo

Escape
Nov 15th, 2004, 09:31 PM
1. Rome
2. Miami
3. Berlin
4. Canadian Open
5. Indian Wells
6. Charleston
7. Moscow
8. Zurich
9. San Diego
10. Tokyo

twight6
Nov 15th, 2004, 09:37 PM
i think that the most important tournaments are those just before grand slams, because if players win them then they are pretty confident going into the grand slams. Another important tournament is Phily cause players who are ranked 7/8/9 can get more pts. towards the YEC

Barrie_Dude
Nov 15th, 2004, 11:06 PM
1) Key Biscayne
2) Indian Wells
3) Rome
4) Canada

AjdeNate!
Nov 15th, 2004, 11:07 PM
1. Anything on dirt.
2. Miami
3-10. Whatever's left.

Crazy_Fool
Nov 15th, 2004, 11:11 PM
1. Anything on dirt.
2. Miami
3-10. Whatever's left.
Yes :) :worship:

SzavayFi
Nov 15th, 2004, 11:51 PM
1. Miami
2. IW
3. Rome
4. Charleston
5. Berlin
6. Moscow
7. Zurich
8. San Diego
9. Montreal/Toronto
10. Tokyo

venusfan
Nov 16th, 2004, 12:44 AM
1: Miami
2-10: any order

Wiggly
Nov 16th, 2004, 12:54 AM
I rhink the most prestigious are Miami and Montreal/Toronto

The :tape: is Tokyo...

Justin
Nov 16th, 2004, 12:58 AM
1 Miami
2 Rome
3 Charleston
4 Canada
5 Zurich
6 IW
7 San Diego
8 Tokyo
9 Berlin
10 Moscow

SelesFan70
Nov 16th, 2004, 02:00 AM
1. Charleston (because it was the first big women's tournament and has history on its side)

2. Miami

3. Rome

4. through 10. Place them as you see fit.

DeDe4925
Nov 16th, 2004, 02:05 AM
1. Miami
2. Rome
3. Charleston
4. Berlin
5. Toronto/Montreal
6. Zurich
7. San Diego
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8,9,10: Moscow, Tokyo, IW (in any order)
I agree with this one.

Tennisace
Nov 16th, 2004, 03:26 AM
2004 Tier I Tournaments
477 Indian Wells (Henin-Hardenne)
476# Moscow (Myskina)
471# Zurich (Molik)
461* San Diego (Davenport)
451* Rome (Mauresmo)
428 Miami (S Williams)
401* Montreal (Mauresmo)
394* Berlin (Mauresmo)
374* Charleston (V Williams)
363# Tokyo (Davenport)

2003 Tier I Tournaments
493 Miami (S Williams)
450 Indian Wells (Clijsters)
440* Berlin (Henin-Hardenne)
420* Charleston (Henin-Hardenne)
403# Zurich (Henin-Hardenne)
402* Roma (Clijsters)
401* Toronto (Henin-Hardenne)
379# Moscow (Myskina)
363# Tokyo (Davenport)

ptkten
Nov 16th, 2004, 04:38 AM
Based on history, prestige, and player participation

Top level
Miami
Rome
Canadian Open

Second Level
Berlin
Indian Wells
Zurich

Third Level
San Diego
Moscow
Charleston

Fourth Level
Tokyo