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Chunchun
Nov 6th, 2004, 02:15 PM
i know it's a bit early, but if u hv any comment on the 2005 schedule,
post & chat here :wavey:

on Oct 10 2005,
Moscow & Hasselt will be held :mad:
so lena has to choose a tourny to commit :(
You know, lena won 04 Hasselt and Moscow is hometown tourny
can't join both :rolleyes:
Hopefully the damn WTA will change this later:)

And that week will be the most sucks for lena,
other tournies change a lot too but dun bring too much trouble to lena

http://www.wtatour.com/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=/global/pdfs/events/2005/TourCalendar.pdf

JC Federer
Nov 6th, 2004, 02:26 PM
I think she has more points to defend at Moscow than Hasselt since it's a Tier I and she made the finals there. A shame though.

Mathijs
Nov 6th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Thanks ED for starting this thread :yeah:, which is a good idea!!!!! :worship:

JLDementieva
Nov 6th, 2004, 06:46 PM
I think Lena will choose Moscow over Hasselt, without a doubt.

Chunchun
Nov 6th, 2004, 11:41 PM
I think she has more points to defend at Moscow than Hasselt since it's a Tier I and she made the finals there. A shame though.

but y goldenlox do it JC Federer???

and btw how can i call u, call u as JC Federer each time?? :confused:

JC Federer
Nov 7th, 2004, 02:34 AM
Hi... Just JCF will do. :)

Have you downloaded Top Spin yet?

Pilongo
Nov 8th, 2004, 09:31 AM
I'm downloadin top spin for pc, how is it?
I got Smash Court Tennis 2 for PS2 and created Lena myself.
Its really amazing. Is TS better?

Dementinator
Nov 8th, 2004, 10:34 AM
yes IMO it is!! If your PC up to scratch graphics are awesome and Me too has created my own Lena ,complete with mega pony tail and skimpy top!!

JC Federer
Nov 8th, 2004, 04:04 PM
I'm downloadin top spin for pc, how is it?
I got Smash Court Tennis 2 for PS2 and created Lena myself.
Its really amazing. Is TS better?

It's a fun game, but TS is not very realistic. The amount of spin you can put on the ball defies physics. You can hook the ball back almost 180 degrees, and you can take so much pace off the ball that you can run faster than it. Also what appears to be clearly a clean winner ends up very returnable for a counterpuncher. They can play some amazingly placed shots on the run at full stretch, with enormous pace.

So in other words, Smash Court simulates Tennis better. However, the points that you can construct in Top Spin are very very spectacular. I can beat the CPU on hard now. And each point looks like a hot shot they show on TV.

I don't recommend playing both at the same time though. After I adjusted to TS, when I went back to SCTPT2, I totally sucked.

But Lena is incredible in TS... her backhand looks brilliant, and her service motion is so good Lena should learn from her TS counterpart in the game...

Veritas
Nov 9th, 2004, 08:55 AM
Smash Court Tennis has the worst graphics I've seen :o Virtua Tennis 2 is miles better...I hope they'll do a Virtua Tennis 3 :)

Btw, where can I d/l Top Spin?!!

Pilongo
Nov 9th, 2004, 09:13 AM
It's a fun game, but TS is not very realistic. The amount of spin you can put on the ball defies physics. You can hook the ball back almost 180 degrees, and you can take so much pace off the ball that you can run faster than it. Also what appears to be clearly a clean winner ends up very returnable for a counterpuncher. They can play some amazingly placed shots on the run at full stretch, with enormous pace.

So in other words, Smash Court simulates Tennis better. However, the points that you can construct in Top Spin are very very spectacular. I can beat the CPU on hard now. And each point looks like a hot shot they show on TV.

I don't recommend playing both at the same time though. After I adjusted to TS, when I went back to SCTPT2, I totally sucked.

But Lena is incredible in TS... her backhand looks brilliant, and her service motion is so good Lena should learn from her TS counterpart in the game...

Thanks a lot ;)
I always prefer simulation, so if u r telling me SCTPT2 is more realistic, well, i'd like a tennis game where i can find more nets, more faults, more outs and not always perfect balls onto the line. No game is giving that, so i'll keep playing SCT i think, i don't care the graphics, the moves of the players in SCT are superb, it seems that real hewitt or safin are playing the match, each one with his own shots and serves, but anyways i'll download TS just to see and play lena, and because i like tennis
BTW just won the championships with lena :bounce:

Veritas
Nov 9th, 2004, 09:30 AM
i'll download TS just to see and play lena, and because i like tennis
BTW just won the championships with lena :bounce:

Could you post a link where I can d/l TS? Thanks in advance :)

JC Federer
Nov 9th, 2004, 09:57 AM
Virtua Tennis play mechanics are crap. I don't like the camera angle, and the sound that you hear when you strike the ball is like playing ping pong. Also you don't have a complete shot selection. I never quite figured out how to do drop shots in that game, even though the computer did it a few times against me. And for some reason, whenever I play that, my character has a tendency to move toward the net.

Thanks a lot
I always prefer simulation, so if u r telling me SCTPT2 is more realistic

Me too. Which is why I like SCTPT2 the most. SCTPT1 is more realistic, but it's frustrating. Especially serving the ball.

well, i'd like a tennis game where i can find more nets, more faults, more outs and not always perfect balls onto the line.

Faults happen a lot. Shorter players net the ball a lot. Unforced errors don't happen much, unless you hit flat shots and mistime it. Then you get lots of errors... errors are realistic in real life, but when you play a game, it doesn't make it more fun... What decides whether the ball lands in or out? Sheer luck? It could miss by a few cm. In a game, the focus would be on tactics, rather than execution. You don't want to have a match decided by luck, since it isn't you striking the ball, it is the computer that makes the hit, and they won't stuff up unless you mistime it.

Having said that SCT series is more realistic than Top Spin because you have to connect the shots yourself. Swing too early and you're gone. Be out of position when you swing, and you will miss. Top Spin connects the shots instantly and your character will even move into position to reach the ball if you aren't already, which makes it extremely unrealistic. In a real match, you will frequently be forced to guess one way or another, but in TS, you hit the button and they'll automatically move in the correct direction. You can also move one direction and turn quite easily. It's a game more for newbies to the sport than SCT.

For realism, SCT1 is the most realistic, but it's frustratingly so. SCTPT2 makes a compromise and goes half way between realism and practicality. If you make it too realistic, then casual tennis gamers won't be able to play it. Volleying by the way is a lot easier in TS than SCTPT2 (you do perfect volleys and you don't really have to guess the direction). Too easy, but that's good I think. In TS I find myself always serve-volleying, while in SCTPT2 I'm usually at the baseline. That's because serve-volleying is very difficult in SCTPT2. When you're at the net, it's kinda hard to connect the shot. You have to press it early like a reflex, but if they lob it, you're screwed if you pressed early.

My gripes with SCTPT2 are that the shot connection can sometimes be difficult too... returning a Lob comes to mind. And the idea of drop shot and lob sharing the same button is stupid. I often attempt a drop shot and end up hitting a poorly placed lob which loses me the point. Similarly, returning a drop shot in TS is difficult, without your opponent hitting a winner on the next shot (I play on Hard).

In the end though, the points you can construct in Top Spin's flimsy physics are a lot more satisfying. You can make some amazing scrambling and counterpunching that would put the real life Lleyton Hewitt to shame...

And also SCTPT2's character line up blows Top Spin out of the water (except that TS has Lena of course :hearts: Other than that, Top Spin has players like Sampras, Anna K, Michael Chang who had stopped playing well before the game released) It's the best of any tennis game. The best player to play as by far in SCTPT2 is Juju. Everything that backhand touches turns to gold.

I hope they make a SCTPT3, and it should include Roger Federer to be complete (Roger himself says he wants to be in a game). They should get rid of Richard Gasquet to make room for him. On the women's side, they should replace Anna K with someone who's actually active on the tour... either Masha, Nastya or LenaD. They'll probably end up picking Masha for marketing purposes. No offense to Anna K of course, but she's not an active player, and that makes her the odd one out.

Smash Court Tennis has the worst graphics I've seen

I have no problems with it. When you're seeing the match from the default angle you aren't really looking at the detail anyway. It's the gameplay mechanics that count.

To people looking to download top spin, first I hope you have a good game controller, and you need a graphics card that is at least a Geforce3. (Geforce 4 MX is not good enough by the way).

First way to get it is through a bittorrent client and a site like suprnova.org or torrentbits.org.

The other way is with an IRC client, and using an IRC search engine like debateroom.com.

Not sure if it's ok to post links here, but PM me if you need further help...

BTW just won the championships with lena

But Lena is not in SCT is she? Which game are you playing?

i don't care the graphics, the moves of the players in SCT are superb, it seems that real hewitt or safin are playing the match, each one with his own shots and serves

Yeah the same goes for top spin. The player's receiving stance, serving stance, and strokes simulate the real player's manerisms. Except in the case of Lena, who doesn't have that shocking serve in the game... She actually can hit a very graceful flat serve, or top spin, or slice.

Oh something I should mention, TS seems to get some tennis rules wrong. The way they announce scores in tie breaks is wrong. And there is not supposed to be a change of ends before a tie break. And I'm not too sure an under-arm serve is legal in tennis...

Dementinator
Nov 9th, 2004, 10:12 AM
But Lena is incredible in TS... her backhand looks brilliant, and her service motion is so good Lena should learn from her TS counterpart in the game...

You are dead right JC!! I played against lena ,as my Lena ,and got my ass
absolutely thrashed!! she just rails forehand returns straight down the line when you serve and she is bloody everywhere ,u cant get anything past her at all ,bit like the real one i reckon!!!

JC Federer
Nov 9th, 2004, 10:18 AM
Hey... are you going to work on the serve with your Lena, or are you going to stay true to the real Lena? Try and get a good forehand and backhand. Give her weapons she doesn't have in real life (a 180kph serve for instance). The people online have amazing stats and they hit risk shots a lot.

Dementinator
Nov 9th, 2004, 10:24 AM
Well i still getting used to Lena in a crop top!! me wanna see her for real in an outfit like that!! with her physique it would be awesome!!!
I have trained to get a gold fore hand like real lena...and have reasonble serve and good back hand but i have only just started so am currently ranked 19 in the game and have around 5 tornys to my name inc a couple of pros and i was doing well in USO beating hingis etc until i ran into Lena for real!!
Tell me...can u play online using Dial up?? as do not have DSL at home yet just at my shop!! will be july next year before BT get there lazy ass in gear and upgrade our exchange!!

JC Federer
Nov 9th, 2004, 02:44 PM
It should work online. Make sure you play people with low ping (people near you) or else it's laggy. Risks shots become hard to time, serves hard to return, etc.

Pilongo
Nov 11th, 2004, 10:31 AM
But Lena is not in SCT is she? Which game are you playing?



I'm playing SCT with a created Elena, she looks like the real one in the far cameras, with the cap, the ptail and a full red with little white lines dress ;)
Still 50% left for topstpin to download

For me, the playing mode for SCT2 is perfect, but i only would like the serves, the forced returns... to be a bit harder, so u find more forced errors to the net or out. To do a fault i need almost to premeditate it, even with hewitt (my fav tennis male player) serving at 210 kph and finding the line, to the corner to rivals backhand, is quite easy. Nevertheless lets wait a SCT3 with Elena.

For all the people who want to download TS, JCF wrote some interesting links up here for bittorrent :)
Saludos amigos

Go Lena forget Lindsay's match :fiery: , now it's time to react...

JC Federer
Nov 11th, 2004, 12:28 PM
I serve lots of faults (I always hit them flat) without meaning to... I have to be conservative as to how far I aim it, and I don't aim it very far.

If you're a short player like JHH, you net a lot of serves out wide.

And hitting the ball into the net happens a lot when you're close to the net. I know what you mean about the returns though. It's too easy to return a serve. Top Spin forces weak returns (too weak I think), unless you go for a risk shot.

Yes I am also hoping Lena makes it into another game, however, they likely won't select her if they have to select a russian... they won't want to pick too many of them, and they'll give precedence to the most marketable one: Maria Sharapova. They did it for Anna K, long after she went past her prime (name a Tennis game that doesn't have Anna?).

Pilongo
Nov 12th, 2004, 04:52 PM
I use flat serve and i finish around 70-80% on first serve in 2 set match, but it's not on nets where i fault, the serves just go a bit wide, and i play with my Lena or Hewitt, so maybe my serve style is so good :p

I agree with you in the russians for a tennis game, but there are 5 and even more very good russian players now, so let's hope they put just two or more so we can see our Elena :)

jklense
Nov 12th, 2004, 07:12 PM
sorry guys, the thread title misleads now :p it should read alike "video games make our dream - of what Lena should play - come true..." :lol:

Dementinator
Nov 12th, 2004, 07:27 PM
yes we have a new thread i think "Virtual Lena in here!"

bergkamp2004
Nov 13th, 2004, 12:01 AM
You may be justified in claiming that virtual tennis is a great game

but i am sorry

:worship: THE GREATEST GAME IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW IS FOOTBALL MANAGER 2005 :worship:

ONCE YOU START, YOU GET ADDICTED

:kiss:

Griswold_cn
Nov 13th, 2004, 05:32 AM
You may be justified in claiming that virtual tennis is a great game

but i am sorry

:worship: THE GREATEST GAME IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW IS FOOTBALL MANAGER 2005 :worship:

ONCE YOU START, YOU GET ADDICTED

:kiss:
:bounce: I prefer QUAKE 3 ARENA with OSP :bounce:

Pilongo
Nov 13th, 2004, 04:46 PM
:worship: THE GREATEST GAME IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW IS FOOTBALL MANAGER 2005 :worship:

ONCE YOU START, YOU GET ADDICTED

:kiss:

I agree!!
But damn its requirements

Russia-Rulez
Nov 28th, 2004, 05:50 PM
i know it's a bit early, but if u hv any comment on the 2005 schedule,
post & chat here :wavey:

on Oct 10 2005,
Moscow & Hasselt will be held :mad:
so lena has to choose a tourny to commit :(
You know, lena won 04 Hasselt and Moscow is hometown tourny
can't join both :rolleyes:
Hopefully the damn WTA will change this later:)

And that week will be the most sucks for lena,
other tournies change a lot too but dun bring too much trouble to lena

http://www.wtatour.com/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=/global/pdfs/events/2005/TourCalendar.pdf

It has changed Hasselt is now on 24 october