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Volcana
Oct 17th, 2004, 09:56 PM
-- President Bush, quoted in the Lancaster New Era, July 16, 2004

Let's say, just for a moment, that everything I'm about to write ISN'T based on mythology. Let's say, just for boffo yoks, it's all real. Look at his actions. Is George Bush a prophet, and the Christian God truly speaks through him? Or is he the Anti-Christ, come to the world to spread death and destruction?

Holiness? Or Evil made flesh acting under the guise of holiness?

You can tell from how I phrased it that I have an opinion. But given that there are no facts available to us to make that determination in a scientific manner, tell me, which do you believe is more likely?

Bush as annointed of the Lord?
Bush as Anti-Christ?

vote!

Bacardi
Oct 17th, 2004, 10:03 PM
Well the lord said, "thou shalt not kill" and Bush continues to kill people everyday with his pointless war. If he's annointed by any sort of God it's the pure devine DEVIL himself. Bush is the Anti-Christ, the worst thing since Hitler.

Kart
Oct 17th, 2004, 11:16 PM
LOL at the two of you and this poll :rolls:.

beauty_is_pink
Oct 17th, 2004, 11:26 PM
is he trying to use religion to win this election?

(ie, trying to gather up people from all different backgrounds and stuff)

LindsayRocks89
Oct 18th, 2004, 12:10 AM
Bush is no saint, but he is religious and seeks God on guidance, and that is great that President Bush has a relationship With God, and is a Christian, he is a great man :worship:

Volcana
Oct 18th, 2004, 12:28 AM
LOL at the two of you and this poll :rolls:.Well, of course one can't regard either conclusion as provable. But ...:)

Bush is no saint, but he is religious and seeks God on guidance, and that is great that President Bush has a relationship With God, and is a Christian, he is a great man :worship:He SAYS he is religious.
He SAYS he seeks God on guidance.
He SAYS he has a relationship with God.
He SAYS he is a Christian.

However, as I regard him as a proven liar, why should I believe him when he says any of that?

jbone_0307
Oct 18th, 2004, 12:32 AM
Somebody made the most ignorant comment when I said, why are you voting for Bush, and he said because John Kerry is Catholic. I dont see religion being why I would vote for a candidate.

Volcana
Oct 18th, 2004, 12:37 AM
Somebody made the most ignorant comment when I said, why are you voting for Bush, and he said because John Kerry is Catholic. I dont see religion being why I would vote for a candidate.Maybe the guy was an Irish Protestant? If there are ever elections in Iraq watch how much religion influences it. Can you imagine a non-Jew elected leader of Israel? Can you see a Muslim ever elected President of the Uniited States?

Knizzle
Oct 18th, 2004, 02:06 AM
Bush is no saint, but he is religious and seeks God on guidance, and that is great that President Bush has a relationship With God, and is a Christian, he is a great man :worship:
You can't be serious.

Wigglytuff
Oct 18th, 2004, 03:00 AM
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/jesusbush.jpg
and thats all i have to say

Kiwi_Boy
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:14 AM
No way! He is a self proclaimed prophet of his parties own idealogy not his g-ds! GQ magazine last month had some very interesting things to say about his past which is anything BUT g-d like!!
This is like saying that the Ayatollah of Iran is the next mohummed or Ariel Sharon is the Messiach..Just becasue you follow a religion and have power dosnt mean you represent "your" relgion.

jbone_0307
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:22 AM
OMG thats hilarious Jigglypuff!!

Volcana
Oct 18th, 2004, 03:32 PM
Polls are pretty evenly split so far.

Bacardi
Oct 18th, 2004, 05:48 PM
I once knew a guy that no shit, said he was religious, went to church, done things right. Then he started saying he was seeking god's advice, the next thing you know he claimed God talked to him. And do you know what "God" (the one in his head) told him to do? Go out and stalk this one girl, and then beat up her boyfriend. :o He also killed 3 hamsters because the God in his head, told him they were EVIL.

I'm serious... that crack pot is like 21 years old, and he's in an adult home right now.

PhoenixStorm
Oct 18th, 2004, 06:04 PM
Bush is no saint, but he is religious and seeks God on guidance, and that is great that President Bush has a relationship With God, and is a Christian, he is a great man :worship:
So his relationship with god is to kill people? Sorry but you dont murder people then turn around say your a christian because obviously youre not. at least not a real one.

Beat
Oct 18th, 2004, 06:15 PM
it's getting more and more absurd :smash:

DemWilliamsGulls
Oct 18th, 2004, 06:18 PM
God's speaks through him...please....The Lord not that damn dumb....

jacobruiz
Oct 18th, 2004, 08:42 PM
The Religous Right is gaining in power and popularity at an alarming rate in the U.S. Our forefathers at the time of the revolution didn't have the intelligence or foresight to end slavery but at least they realized the importance of the separation of Church and State(government). Government must keep itself free from religious influence! Haven't we seen enough of it's danger from governments like the Taliban in Afganistan? Governments must function for the good of the people, not to follow some religion's beliefs.

The re-election of Bush would be very, very scary, imo.

Warrior
Oct 18th, 2004, 09:59 PM
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/jesusbush.jpg
and thats all i have to say
:haha: :haha: :haha:

¤CharlDa¤
Oct 18th, 2004, 11:07 PM
Once again using religion to get votes :rolleyes: Aren't we in 04?

flyingmachine
Oct 18th, 2004, 11:13 PM
The Religous Right is gaining in power and popularity at an alarming rate in the U.S. Our forefathers at the time of the revolution didn't have the intelligence or foresight to end slavery but at least they realized the importance of the separation of Church and State(government). Government must keep itself free from religious influence! Haven't we seen enough of it's danger from governments like the Taliban in Afganistan? Governments must function for the good of the people, not to follow some religion's beliefs.

The re-election of Bush would be very, very scary, imo.
The increase power of religous exteremist is not just bad thing for the world but also for the US in the long term. If things like this continues we can see the begining of the US deline. Just like what happened to the Islamic World hundreds years ago.

jacobruiz
Oct 19th, 2004, 12:49 AM
The increase power of religous exteremist is not just bad thing for the world but also for the US in the long term. If things like this continues we can see the begining of the US deline. Just like what happened to the Islamic World hundreds years ago.
Well, I don't think it's quite gotten to that point yet, flyingmachine. Luckily for the people of the U.S., it's government is a bit more democratic than those in the Islamic world hundreds of years ago.

But if Bush is re-elected and a Supreme Court justice retires during his term, Bush can appoint an extreme right-wing judge to fill the position and affect the most important legal rulings for decades (they are appointed for life).

He is also causing irreparable damage to the environment. Great way to treat God's creation!:rolleyes:

I don't mean to turn this into a commercial but please:

IF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE - PLEASE VOTE!!!
THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT BUSH IS TO ELECT KERRY

flyingmachine
Oct 19th, 2004, 09:10 AM
Well, I don't think it's quite gotten to that point yet, flyingmachine. Luckily for the people of the U.S., it's government is a bit more democratic than those in the Islamic world hundreds of years ago.

But if Bush is re-elected and a Supreme Court justice retires during his term, Bush can appoint an extreme right-wing judge to fill the position and affect the most important legal rulings for decades (they are appointed for life).

He is also causing irreparable damage to the environment. Great way to treat God's creation!:rolleyes:

I don't mean to turn this into a commercial but please:

IF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE - PLEASE VOTE!!!
THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT BUSH IS TO ELECT KERRY
I think this is not just a goverment problem but also there are many people in the US too are convert into so called 'born again Christians' and other Christians groups which many of these groups are very right wing and exterme reglious. (This is also explain why there are many Bush supports then otherwise. :retard: ) This could be just a bump rather than a long years of deline but no-one knows. However I found many Americans are very ignorant on things outside the USA and this is a bad thing too in the long term. I think they should stop being ignorant because ignorance is powerful thing and it blinds people. I know USA is democratic country but remembered the Germans VOTED Hitler into power in the 30's. :retard: :retard: :retard: For shake of the Earth we don't want this happen again in the USA. :rolleyes: :tape:

jelena4me
Oct 19th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Anybody who says that God speaks through is them is either incredibly arrogant, self important or mad. George Bush is at least 2 of those and is far more dangerous than the pope.

How do you Americans ever get to vote for this madman? I know Tony Blair is bad enough, but he's not in the same league as Bush.

Dirty Sanchez
Oct 19th, 2004, 01:42 PM
:lol: What an arsehole Bush is!!! :lol:

TennisFan75
Oct 19th, 2004, 04:24 PM
he says he's pro-life, and that he's pro-death penatly.. as Gov of Texas 144 people were sent to death... reconcile that one Bushie.... grrrrr :fiery:

Wigglytuff
Oct 19th, 2004, 05:23 PM
he says he's pro-life, and that he's pro-death penatly.. as Gov of Texas 144 people were sent to death... reconcile that one Bushie.... grrrrr :fiery:

when i have talked to pro lifers (most of whom also support the death penalty), they say that the life of the fetus should be protected, but once it leaves the womb the society is no longer responsible for protecting that life (which is how they justify being against welfare and free lunch programs as well).

now i am not saying that this every pro-lifer just the onces i have personally talked to.

*Karen*
Oct 19th, 2004, 06:36 PM
You get put in the loony bin in Britain if you're hearing voices.

Circe
Oct 19th, 2004, 08:37 PM
when Bush gets re-elected i think we can be fairly certain that he will view it as a mandate to pursue his right-wing policies at a more accelerated pace. i've said before that in most countries what he has been saying would be regarded as electoral malpractice. but this is america. we need a god to bless us.
i think we really do.

Tylane
Oct 19th, 2004, 09:13 PM
So now it seems he will be re-elected, right ?
How is it possible, the only Americans who speak on the forums, at tv etc...seem to hate him, where are these millions of people who will vote for this bastard ??????????
I don't want to imagine the reaction round the world if he's re-elected...

Wigglytuff
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:48 AM
It shows:

1) How bad Kerry is.

2) The more Bush is bashed, the more people who had a positive idea of him will probably support him. People like, or sympathize, with "victims".

If Democrats would have had a better leader and if Bush wouldn't have been bashed so much, I think Democrats would have won.

As it is now, they will lose.

the fact is that bush as not dont one good thing for people making less than 200,000, he even cut pay and benefits to soilders in iraq RIGHT NOW and thier families.

people like him because 1-they make 200,000 or more a year AND/OR 2-he supports their nationalistic agenda and even if it is at the expense of their childern, safety and those who are serving in Iraq right now.

Volcana
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:41 AM
So now it seems he will be re-elected, right ?
How is it possible, the only Americans who speak on the forums, at tv etc...seem to hate him, where are these millions of people who will vote for this bastard ??????????Bush lost the popular vote in 2000. But he WON 49.x% of the vote. There are a LOT of people who view Bush as a prophet. Check out this thread.
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=137344

Those people don't post here. 'Here' is full of gays, liberals and other perverts.

It shows a few things.

1) 250 million dollars worth of lies about Kerry DID have an effect.

2) That sooner or later, it's going to come down to *** between those who want the USA to be a theocracy, and everybody else.

3) And I say this as an American, Americans have become cowards, striking out blindly in all directions. 9/11 didn't change everything. It didn't change ANYTHING. The people round the world we kiled and abused could ALWAYS have struck back. Increasingly so in a connected world. Finally they did. Ever hear of 'blowback'?

American Blacks were burned out of whole cities in the USA, and we didn't take that as carte blanche to kill anything that moved. What protected us before 9/11 wasn't force. It was the fact that the UNited States was a bigger benefit to the have-nots of the world than it was a problem. If anything 9/11 PROVED that, when practically the whole world lined up behind us.

4) Bush did the things for his consituency he said he'd do. Giving government money to religion. Sacking pollution controls. Making it easier for multi-nationals to make money.

WHy should any of his support desert him?

Hagar
Oct 20th, 2004, 09:04 AM
when i have talked to pro lifers (most of whom also support the death penalty), they say that the life of the fetus should be protected, but once it leaves the womb the society is no longer responsible for protecting that life (which is how they justify being against welfare and free lunch programs as well).

now i am not saying that this every pro-lifer just the onces i have personally talked to.
Yeah, that's really typical for these pro lifers, they also support the death penalty. Can you be more schizophrenic?

lakeway11
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Proposition one: Bush said he believed "that God wants everybody to be free."

Proposition two: Bush affirmed his belief "in the transformational power of liberty."

Proposition three: Bush vowed to "unleash the armies of compassion," and "continue to spread freedom."

Ergo: Bush believes that by "spreading" Liberté, Egalité, and Fraternité (as defined by him) he is doing the work of God.

May God help us.

JLDementieva
Oct 20th, 2004, 07:23 PM
I thought there was suppose to be a separation of church and state! :rolleyes: So he's not really suppose do his job with God speaking through him.

Volcana
Oct 23rd, 2004, 07:03 AM
I thought there was suppose to be a separation of church and state! :rolleyes: So he's not really suppose do his job with God speaking through him.The problem is that the p[repondance of the evidence suggests that it's NOT 'God' that's speaking through him. This guy could nuke Paris and he'd claim he didn't make a mistake.

After all,how CANyou make a mistake if it's reall God making the decisions? That would mean GOD was making a mistake.

CooCooCachoo
Oct 23rd, 2004, 07:19 AM
Lovely poll :haha:

God says we should help other people, so I implement Medicare :tape:

Lollipop
Oct 23rd, 2004, 08:58 AM
It's so unbelievable that he calls himself religious...

Paneru
Oct 23rd, 2004, 04:10 PM
It's so unbelievable that he calls himself religious...
Isn't it though! :rolleyes:

the day will come when he gets his,
believe that! :cool: