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Volcana
Dec 17th, 2001, 04:32 PM
Name three current top ten players who will NOT be in the top ten at the end of 2002. Remember, this is a vehicle for showing people how smart you are, not just who you like.

I could say, for example, that Lindsay Davenpot, Jennifer Capriati and Venus Williams will all be out of the top ten at the end of 2002. (Not my actual picks, of course.)

Good luck!

Martian KC
Dec 17th, 2001, 04:35 PM
Hmmm....tough choice....I really think this is the toughest top 10 and that the only person I see not being in the top 10 next year is Jelena Dokic.

Gandalf
Dec 17th, 2001, 04:36 PM
Jennifer Capriati, Amelie Mauresmo and Justine Henin.

ys
Dec 17th, 2001, 04:39 PM
Jelena Dokic, Justine Henin. The remaining eight will stay in Top 10.

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 17th, 2001, 04:43 PM
What i think or would like are pretty similar.

think<br />out of 10<br />Dokic <br />Mauresmo

would like to be out of 10<br />Dokic<br />Mauresmo<br />Capriati

disposablehero
Dec 17th, 2001, 05:27 PM
The current top 10 ARE the top 10. I'm going to display my intelligence by telling you that 9 of them will be in the top 10 at the end of next year. The player left out will be either Jelena Dokic or Justine Henin.

Randy H
Dec 17th, 2001, 05:31 PM
hard to think that any of the top 10 would fall out really, but i think that seems the case almost every season...but there's usually a couple surprises, so if i have to take out 3, i'd probably go with Dokic, Mauresmo, and Henin. mainly because i don't think the others are any more likely to fall out of the top 10 then them, lol. i'll be surprised if there are even 2 new top 10 players by years end, there are only a couple who i could see doing it, but we'll just have to wait and see i suppose. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

ETA's Martina Nav
Dec 17th, 2001, 06:03 PM
Capriati-because she has so much to defend.

Dokic-because she played nearly 30 events to get her #8 ranking.

Seles-because not playing in Germany will cause her to lose big points, before you jump on me remember she already finshed 2001 at #10.

[ December 17, 2001: Message edited by: Conchita94 ]</p>

per4ever
Dec 17th, 2001, 06:05 PM
I can only laugh when I see people saying Justine Henin. When you would have seen her play sunday, then you certainly would know that she'll stay in the top10 and get even higher.

Will not be in the top10: Seles, Mauresmo, and Dokic

tfannis
Dec 17th, 2001, 06:33 PM
Capriati: because she became fat again during the off season

Mauresmo: she's a floater, the only one of the top ten who isn't a real top ten player

Seles: she finished at 10 this year, I expect her to be #11 or #12 next year

I'm afraid Dokic is in the top to stay for a while, but she won't make the top 5

And Henin will not fall out of it!Her career as a tennsstar started this year and the best is yet to come!

apoet29
Dec 17th, 2001, 06:56 PM
Current Top Ten @ the end of 2002

1. Lindsay Davenport<br />2. Jennifer Capriati<br />3. Venus Williams<br />4. Martina Hingis<br />5. Kim Clijsters<br />6. Serena Williams<br />7. Justine Henin<br />8. Jelena Dokic<br />9. Amelia Mauresmo<br />10. Monica Seles

If I had to pick three players who may fall out of the top ten @ the end of 2002, I would pick Jennifer Capriati, Jelena Dokic and Amelia Mauresmo for the following reasons.

1. Jennifer started the year with a bang. Plowing down Seles, Davenport and Hingis to win her first grand slam. She not only played amazing tennis; her general attitude was phenomenal. After winning the Family Circle Cup and the French Open as well as making the finals of Oklahoma, the Ericsson and the German Open, Jennifer really proved that she was a top contender. Once she lost @ Wimbledon, her game was never the same. Jennifer, I get the impression, cannot handle the pressure of being a top player. With so much to defend throughout the year, I really don't see Jennifer being able to do so.

2. Jelena Dokic- Jelena's decision not to play the Oz is not a good sign of her commitment to become an all around player. After February, Jelena played an incredible amount of tennis, 30 tournaments in all and that is a lot to have to defend. While this tactic worked effectively to get Jelena her first three titles, I am not sure that Jelena will be able to keep up the pace next year. However, I read an interview that stated that Jelena was currently working on the problem areas of her game, so that is always a good sign.

3. Amelia Mauresmo has always been a streaky player capable of downing a top player, (i.e. Davenport @ the Oz in 99) or falling to defeat to a lower ranked player (Jana Kandaar @ the FO 00). Unfortunately, Amelia suffers from not only a bad case of nerves, but she also has a clay court dependency that she is not willing to shake. In 02, Amelia must have better results on all surfaces and she must hold her nerves together better.

<br />I hope that I am wrong about my three picks simply because in one way or another, I really like all three players. Next year should be very interesting.

Big Lindsay
Dec 17th, 2001, 07:24 PM
Though I do respect the opinions of others, I do not see Seles falling out of the top ten, and will explain why. Even though Seles is not playing in Germany, her record at the Grand Slams this year was as follows,

AO - QF<br />FO - DNP<br />WM - DNP<br />US - 4th rd

With a healthy Monica Seles, this will not happen next year in 2002. Seles should reach at least the QF in three out of four Grand Slams ... if not all 4. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[ December 17, 2001: Message edited by: Big Lindsay ]</p>

apoet29
Dec 17th, 2001, 07:33 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big Lindsay:<br />[QB]Though I do respect the opinions of others, I do not see Seles falling out of the top ten, and will explain why. Even though Seles is not playing in Germany, her record at the Grand Slams this year was as follows,

AO - QF<br />FO - DNP<br />WM - DNP<br />US - 4th rd<br />With a healthy Monica Seles, this will not happen next year in 2002. Seles should reach at least the QF in three out of four Grand Slams ... if not all 4. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

<br />I agree with you there. Monica missed at least 4 months this season, but she really came back with a vengance during the summer defeating Hingis (twice), Capriati and Serena Williams (who held six match points!). She won 4 titles at the end of the year. Yes, the competition wasn't that great, but it showed Monica's fitness and level of commitment. Her whitewashing of Kournikova in Denver and her win over Martina Navratilova shows how well Monica really is playing. I hope this car accident has not hurt her progress. Has anyone heard how she is doing?

Rollo
Dec 17th, 2001, 07:35 PM
Mauresmo.

Frankly, if I had to bet I'd say the top 10 for 2001 IS the top ten for 2002. The one or two to "drop" will do so because of injuries. Henin, Dokic, and Mauresmo are most likely to drop due to injuries, especially Mauresmo if she's hurt during clay court season. I picked Momo to fall not because she lacks talent(she's loaded with it), but because unlike Henin and Dokic, I don't see her playing herself into the ground while hurt just for a top 10 ranking. Amelie has a history of injury problems.

Seles will stay in the top 10 without question. <br />Capriati too. Even after falling off last season, she still posted top 10 results.

Mary Pierce is a big wildcard IMO. If Mary charges back, one of the top 10 will have to give up her spot.

[ December 17, 2001: Message edited by: Rollo ]</p>

Hurley
Dec 17th, 2001, 08:12 PM
I think at least nine of this Top Ten will finish next year ranked inside the Top Ten.

Should one fall out, I would be most inclined to say Mauresmo, since, after her torrid start to the year, her level of play really dropped off, and I think she's starting to turn into even more of a headcase than she already was.

Next would be Dokic, the least talented player up there. But she is feisty and really loves winning, and plays quite often. I don't expect her to improve on this year-end ranking, but she should stay around there.

Poor Justine is still so very nervous against the best players. She would be my third selection, but I think she'll be fine for the Top Ten next year.

Capriati won't even be close to #2, but she'll stay up in the Top Ten. Hingis could conceivably dip even lower than she is right now, but she's got all the shots to wipe out anyone who can't blast her off the court. Seles has enough firepower to crush all players on her good days.

Davenport, Williams, Williams, and Clijsters will definitely stay in the Top Ten.

If someone who is not in the Top Ten right now does end 2002 in there, it will be Dementieva, not Pierce. I don't really see anyone else seriously threatening for a position, and that is why I don't think too many of this Top Ten have to worry about losing their spot, even if they have seasons that don't match their expectations.

Dawn Marie
Dec 17th, 2001, 08:18 PM
Amelie/Jennifer/Hingis. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

ttaM
Dec 17th, 2001, 08:35 PM
Three I think can: Mauresmo/Dokic/Hingis

Amelie has a bizarre mental state. Which we saw at Roland Garros this year. If she comes back fitter than 2001 she will do great. Mentally she still needs help. Amelie didn't do too well after Roland Garros, which might help her in the end with her ranking.

Dokic has a lot to defend after the US Open. Finalist at Bahia, winner at Tokyo and Moscow. I expect the fields in these tournaments to be better then they were this past year which might cause trouble for Jelena

Hingis might if her game has improved zippo since the summer on. Other players won't be afraid of her anymore. She will be the last one I think will drop out of the top 10 out of the 3 I listed.

As for Seles...she won't fall out of the top 10 unless it's because of an injury. She finished at #10 because of the injury and the Chase tournament points coming off. With Seles having something like 2 points to defend from March-June I can't see her below #6 for the most part of the year.

saki
Dec 17th, 2001, 08:58 PM
I don't understand why so many people are saying that Dokic will drop out of the top 10.

She is very talented - much underestimated IMO. She's got great grounstrokes, a good serve when it goes in, and has started to mix things up with drop-shots and volleys. Recent interviews suggest that she's going to work on her serve & variety and this has to be a good sign. Yes, she has played a lot of tournaments this year, but she says that she's going to play fewer next year and concentrate on the big ones. She's gained a lot of match experience in the latter half of 2001 & that's going to stand her in good stead.

The only current top 10 player I see dropping is Amelie Mauresmo. She just hasn't been playing at all well since before the French Open & her work ethic isn't good.

I expect Dokic & Seles to do much better in the Grand Slams than they did this year.

Henin is another possibility, but only if she gets injured. If she's playing, she'll be in the top 10.

Capriati isn't the player that she was at the beginning of 2001, but she's still pretty good and very consistent. I don't see her dropping below #4 or #5.

Rollo
Dec 17th, 2001, 09:03 PM
Just an added comment here. While Mauresmo was my #1 candidate to fall out of the top 10, I still believe she has the "goods" to win at Roland Garros one day. Being French, it takes years to to<br />handle the burden of carrying the torch for your nation. She has the added stresses of scrutiny due to her sexuality, plus no other French women ( who are considered threats to win slams) to share the media frenzy with. If Pierce is healthy at next year's Roland Garros the odds improve for Amelie, because much of the unwanted spotlight will be on Mary.

QUEENLINDSAY
Dec 17th, 2001, 09:18 PM
My thinking actually is that they will most likely to retain in top 10.<br />The player that I can clearly think of is Amelie Mauresmo. But there are still a lot of possible outcome. Acoording to chances of falling out of top 10.

1. Amelie Mauresmo- The least consistent ( Possible replaced by Meghann)<br />2. Jelena9 (still possible but not clear)<br />3. Henin,Serena- Of equal chances,though not that much possible if we are to compare them to players outside top 10.<br />4. Seles<br />5. Capriati- She's been number 1 for nothing, not really easy to drop.

Sure top 10: Lindsay/Venus/Martina/Kim

Monica_Rules
Dec 17th, 2001, 09:33 PM
Amelie,Jelena and Justine

Oasiatic
Dec 17th, 2001, 09:46 PM
I think that Amelie and Seles are definite non 'top tenners'at the end of next season. I think that Jelena will also drop out of the top ten since she has quite a few points to defend towards the end of the year and I don't think she's going to win or reach the same stage as she did this yr..

Fingon
Dec 17th, 2001, 09:56 PM
People who are listing above 3 should really think about which players outside the top 10 are likely enter it next year. This year was a transistional year and I can see it stabilising a little more than it did this year. The only player who I can see slipping out is Mauresmo.

Fingon
Dec 17th, 2001, 10:13 PM
Another point is that the standard to get into the top 10 has increased by more than 300 points since earlier in the year, before you could get in with just under 2000 and now it is over 2300, how many players out there can realistically achieve that?

You have to think about when you predict this who will go out and who will then replace them. I cannot see many doing that at the moment.

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Dec 17th, 2001, 10:18 PM
I think Dokic and Mauresmo will be the only 2 to fall out of the top 10 barring injury by the other 8.

Infiniti2001
Dec 17th, 2001, 10:38 PM
Personally , I will go as far as to bet my last buck on Lindsay and Williams * 2, because only injuries could get in their way at this point. Monica should be added to that list too, since we all know that her time away this year caused this low ranking.. I leave the rest up to other posters <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

Kart
Dec 17th, 2001, 11:00 PM
LOL @ those people picking Monica Seles because of her poor ranking <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> ... she played 14 tournaments in 2001 (inlcuding first round defeats in Madrid and Indian Wells) - only 3 other players in the top 50 played less than that - Williams sisters and Conchita Martinez.

If she stays fit her ranking will only improve.

Dokic and Henin and Mauresmo are the only ones I can see leaving, but only if they get injured.

Frankly I don't see any potential top ten replacements for them except perhaps Pierce (and Kournikova ?).

disposablehero
Dec 17th, 2001, 11:43 PM
LOL@ anyone who picks Monica Seles. Don't bother explaining why to me, I'm certain I won't be able to make any sense of your explanation.

Williams Rulez
Dec 18th, 2001, 01:10 AM
No way is Monica leaving the top 10 <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> Impossible! Monica missed half of the season last year, so she will not drop in the rankings.

Also, Pierce is capable of making it back into the top 10, and the person who will drop out is probably going to be Mauresmo.

Alek
Dec 18th, 2001, 02:40 AM
I dont put Seles out because I think she will gain some points in Roland Garros and Wimbledon + the other clay events or at least i hope <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

Maybe Jelena will fall, I dont know if any other maybe Justine or Amelie.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Dec 18th, 2001, 02:42 AM
Which players are there who can move back up into the Top 10?

I'd have to guess Dementieva, only because she was injured for two months or so (injured at Amelia Island; returned at RG). She was beginning to show her promise, I think, before the injury, and it clearly set her back for the rest of the season.

I'm not so sure Shaughnessy can be a regular Top 10 player. She plays a lot without outstanding results (26 events; title at Quebec and finals at Hamburg and Scottsdale). I think she's the only player other than Dementieva who has a reasonable shot of making it into the Top 10.

Which player(s) are likeliest to fall out of the Top 10? I'd guess Mauresmo, since she had such an unbelievable record from February through May (winning three Tier 2s, a Tier 1, and a Tier 1 finalist). I don't see her repeating that in 2002.

Dokic, I think, may be for real, but since she's not playing Oz others will gain on her in ranking points. However, she didn't play between Oz and the Ericsson last year, so she should gain the points back in February.

So, my guess is that only Mauresmo will fall out of the Top 10, to be replaced by Dementieva. Sorry, Shaughnessy fans!

QueenV
Dec 18th, 2001, 02:47 AM
I don't see much changing myself. If I had to pick three I would say Jennifer, Jelena, and Amelie. But I think only one maybe two players will fall out of the top ten. Probably Amelie Mauresmo, but then again she seems to play better the first half of the year. And will probably improve on her first round exit from the FO. So maybe Jelena. Who really knows?

cynicole
Dec 18th, 2001, 03:08 AM
This is a measure of our intelligence? It looks like many people here have the same IQ.

*yawn* *cracks knuckles* Inspired by the NFL's Detroit Lions, I think I'm going to go all-out for either loony bin or mad genius. (Just to be different, of course.)

Who hasn't been chosen yet? Venus, Lindsay and Kim. Is that all? Let's see...how can I make it sound even slightly logical?

Serena has stated that she wants to play more tournies. I haven't heard it from Venus and we all know how they don't like to schedule the same tournaments. Venus doesn't really need to play a full schedule anyway...but that might actually hurt her if for some reason her game slips (chronic wrist tendonitis). Unlikely, since she's such a great athlete she can make up for horrible play, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Lindsay was the most consistent player in 2001, with QF or better showings in every tournament she played and despite not appearing in a Slam final and missing RG completely, she was good enough to finish in the top spot. But she reinjured her knee! It sounds like the same injury she got in Miami so it may be a chronic problem now. And if Serena pledges to play more and Martina gets some sort of true winning game together Lindsay might have to kiss a lot of those points goodbye. Bad enough to fall out of the top ten? Well, look what injury did to a few of last year's top ten players. In essence, everyone starts out with zero points...and here's Lindsay possibly starting with a lame knee. Not good.

Kim Clijsters. Sturdy build, good genes, good attitude and steady improvement these past few years. Well, what goes up must come down at some point. Why not 2002? Maybe she'll hit a period of unexpected underachievement and get very discouraged. I don't think she's really had one of those periods yet. It would be interesting to see how she would cope with it. Maybe not so well?

(You have no idea how hard it was to come up with this stuff. <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> Better give me the dunce cap now.)

moon
Dec 18th, 2001, 03:11 AM
Barring injury, the only one I can see falling is Jelena Dokic. She is the one who has most benefitted from others not being around esp. in the fall season. All the tourneys she won, were with weak fields, plus those finals in the fall. Won't happen again next year, and could she play anymore tourneys than she did this year? not likely. Jelena goes down. I think Amelie will be able to defend, as long as she doesn't get injured. Jen will go down, but I think she may do well enough to stay in the bottom half of the Top 10, same for Hingis.

thefreedesigner
Dec 18th, 2001, 08:48 AM
Barring injury, a salient point if ever there was one.

BI, I think that not too much will change.

Capriati is TOO GOOD not to be in the Top 10 year's end (next year). I don't buy that one for a second!

If I were to pick one player it would be Mauresmo. Oh, she has the talent of a Top 10er alright, but... there's something missing in her attitude. I don't what it is. Plus of course, she's comparable to a train wreck mentally.

Seles may, I wouldn't be surprised. She has little to defend for almost half the year which would sway me against (plus of course the fact that on her day, she is THE opponent you don't want to face - don't care you say about V and S)

Henin could, but I don't think so. I am biased, but I think that overall, she will have a much more satisfying year next year. Again, BI.

Dokic, unlikely she's a very proud person and I can't see that she has any problems at all with anyone ranked below her. And I can't see this changing.

Everyone else looks a mainstay. Absolutely.

thefreedesigner
Dec 18th, 2001, 08:58 AM
Favourites to go back in at some point throughout the year: Dementieva and Testud (who will have one last hurrah before retiring).

New entrants, not the point of this thread I know, I can't think of at the minute.

Volcana
Dec 18th, 2001, 12:28 PM
Seles, Dokic, Henin - Because they have the worst quality points in the top ten. That says they win consistently, but don't beat those ranked above them often.

Of course, someone has to replace them. How many players not currently in the top 10 are good enough to accumulate 2300 points? (thanks Fingon)

***

11 Sandrine Testud - Beat Capriati twice toward end of season<br />12 Meghann Shaughnessy - ONe of five players to beat Venus in 2001. In a 3rd set tie-breaker. Her nerves are okay.

Former top 10, older than 24, younger than 27

16 Magdalena Maleeva (age 26)<br />44 Iva Majoli (age 24)<br />52 Chanda Rubin (age 25)<br />131 Mary Pierce (age 26)

Injuries struck down these three, but they were all solid top ten players, not marginal ones.

***

Former top 10, younger than 24.

15 Dementieva (age 21)<br />37 Patty Schnyder (age 23)<br />71 Kournikova (age 21)

I actually think Dementieva is as good as she'll ever be. But I can't back that up with a single fact. Kournikova? Is it possible to have good work ethic and poor motivation? It can't ALL be nerves.

***

Pure potential - Justine was ranked the 40's last year, so jumps from far back are possible

20 Tulyaganova - She's sitting at the #20 spot, a near perfect jumping off point to reach the top ten. Most players who make the top ten come from a ranking of #20 to #30 to reach it the first time. (There's a thread about this around someplace.)

28 Bedanova - Beat a couple top ten and a half dozen top 20 players in 2001.

43 Krasnoroutskaya - I say 2003, but ....

****

That's 12 players, not currently in the top ten, who have an arguable shot at ending the year in the top ten. A ready supply. Enough that three or four of them will wind up like Testud and Shaughnessy. Top ten any other year.

Aloysius
Dec 18th, 2001, 01:12 PM
I'm in denial. The Top 10 now will be the same as next year. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Dokic is the most likely candidate, followed by Mauresmo. Dokic, because the tournaments she won are going to be difficult to win again unless things go her way again or she wins other ones to replace them. That, and/or she improves her results in the Grand Slams, especially at the French (where she had a real shot at reaching the final in 2001) and Wimbledon (where she has done extremely well in the past). Mauresmo may fall only because she doesn't play as many as she should. She plays rarely, but prides herself on playing well when she does. What happens if she loses early in the important ones, or the ones where she has big points to defend? Will she play more tournaments to make up for losses, or will she continue with her current relaxed schedule? Monica will improve her rank for sure, barring those injuries. No doubts she will rise otherwise. Everything depends. The others probably won't fall. For now, I think Serena Williams will stay. But it will depend on how often she plays. She has some serious points with not much of a buffer. If she falters in one or a couple of her big wins, she may not be in the Top 10, but if she adds tournaments and does well in them, she will stay for sure.

Potential replacements could well include one, some or none of Pierce, Dementieva, Sanchez Vicario, Martinez, Schett and Kournikova. And don't laugh, but my dark horse is Tulyaganova.

Williams Rulez
Dec 18th, 2001, 01:28 PM
What's so funny about having Tulyagonova as a darkhorse?? She is great player!!

cynicole
Dec 18th, 2001, 03:23 PM
[quote]thefreedesigner thus wrote:<br /><strong>If I were to pick one player it would be Mauresmo. Oh, she has the talent of a Top 10er alright, but... there's something missing in her attitude. I don't what it is. </strong><hr></blockquote>

How about a reluctance to play and do well on North American hardcourts? She'll be hard-pressed to recapture those indoor titles with Clijsters and Dokic free from Age Eligibility Rules and if Serena does indeed play more. (Plus, the former Philadelphia tournament which was played in Nice last year is now in Belgium.) And clay might be tough with the three youngsters plus possibly Tulyaganova picking up their games for clay court season.

<br /> [quote]Volcana named thy choices:<br /><strong>Seles, Dokic, Henin - Because they have the worst quality points in the top ten. That says they win consistently, but don't beat those ranked above them often.<br /></strong><hr></blockquote>

Further explanation:<br />Seles - Asian hardcourts<br />Dokic - Sept. 11<br />Henin - Tier IIIs and open draws (Wimby and RG...even Filderstadt - if you think about it - when Huber took Clijsters out and Testud eliminated Capriati)

<br /> [quote]Williams_Rulez said to Braveheart:<br /><strong>What's so funny about having Tulyagonova as a darkhorse?? She is great player!!</strong><br /><hr></blockquote>

Indeed. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[ December 18, 2001: Message edited by: cynicole ]</p>

Hurley
Oct 10th, 2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Hurley
Should one fall out, I would be most inclined to say Mauresmo, since, after her torrid start to the year, her level of play really dropped off, and I think she's starting to turn into even more of a headcase than she already was.

What a difference a year makes, eh? Pass the crow ;)

Allez Ame :D

cynicole
Oct 10th, 2002, 07:53 PM
I wonder if there's enough crow to go around.

Nimi
Oct 10th, 2002, 08:15 PM
So Jenn is #11 now right? ;)

When will people learn?...

wongqks
Oct 10th, 2002, 08:21 PM
hehe lucky I didn't particiapte in this thread lasy year, I dun want someone to throw back my comment a year ago LOL

but it is true that no one would have thought Amelie can have such a great season, I hope she cna keep it up

YSL
Oct 10th, 2002, 08:28 PM
Heh

Good of you to dredge this up Hurley :) But year, what a difference a year makes!

Here's hoping she moves onwards and upwards! :bounce:

let's see if I get to eat humble pie this time next year

joao
Oct 10th, 2002, 08:36 PM
injuries are not predictable!!! Davenport and Hingis were healthy at that time last year when the thread was put up!

having said that, Dokic and Henin are probably the players who will finish the year in the bottom part of the top10, with Hingis and Clijsters! So i guess people were not that far from the truth! Although they all were totally wrong about Mauresmo!!!!

disposablehero
Oct 10th, 2002, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by disposablehero
The current top 10 ARE the top 10. I'm going to display my intelligence by telling you that 9 of them will be in the top 10 at the end of next year. The player left out will be either Jelena Dokic or Justine Henin.

Had Martina and Lindsay been more healthy, I think Jelena would be the one at #11 by the end of this year. The fact that nobody but those 10 players has broken into the top 9 this year (I don't think Testud went above #10, and obviously Hantuchova hasn't yet) basically proves what I was saying.

Gowza
Oct 10th, 2002, 11:55 PM
the player i'd pick at the moment is dokic because she has tanked. but other picks would be henin and possibly clijsters

disposablehero
Oct 10th, 2002, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by disposablehero
LOL@ anyone who picks Monica Seles. Don't bother explaining why to me, I'm certain I won't be able to make any sense of your explanation.

Well, once again Monica is horrifically plagued by injuries for much of the season, and the end result is........very little chance of leaving the top 10.

2284
Oct 11th, 2002, 12:22 AM
Hingis is about to drop out of the top 10. She was a great player and I believe that she has the ability to play like that again, but she has a lot of work ahead of her.

Capriati has clearly hit a slump. If she can't get her form back by the time of the Aus. Open, she will lose a lot of points.

Hantukova is likely to move into the top 10 to replace one of these players.

The rest of the top 10 is probably going to be the same players, but their rankings may move around a bit. Kim and Lindsay have been injured for most of the year, so they're likely to improve their rankings, while Dokic is likely to drop, but not totally out of the top 10. Jelena is a good player, but I don't think she will be able to keep up playing this number of tournaments

mboyle
Oct 11th, 2002, 01:13 AM
Jelena will end the year at number 11. She will loose first round of the remaining three tournaments. Martina may or may not reach top ten this season, but Lindsay should. Amelie, well she will end THIS year top ten, but can this run continue? I think not.

cynicole
Oct 11th, 2002, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by joao
injuries are not predictable!!!

Bah! They can be when you know players' habits.

What if someone predicted big injury for Dokic soon because she plays too much? Or Henin because she's fragile-looking? Or Hingis because she came back from injury too quickly?

Or maybe it just seems eerie when someone "isn't" injured and you think they're just about due.

Gandalf
Oct 11th, 2002, 03:41 PM
Lol at myself: Capriati, Mauresmo and Henin. Glad I didn't pick Serena...

Experimentee
Oct 11th, 2002, 03:45 PM
How is picking players to fall out of the top 10 intelligence? Anyway i would say Dokic and Davenport, but i cant see any of the others falling out

cynicole
Oct 11th, 2002, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Experimentee
How is picking players to fall out of the top 10 intelligence?

It's obviously not.

I'm kinda creeped out that I picked Davenport (which may prove to be correct) and Clijsters....and the reasonings behind them. And I only picked them (and Venus) because no one else did.