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Volcana
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:07 AM
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe

Voter Registrations Possibly Trashed
(Oct. 12) -- Employees of a private voter registration company allege that hundreds, perhaps thousands of voters who may think they are registered will be rudely surprised on election day. The company claims hundreds of registration forms were thrown in the trash.

Anyone who has recently registered or re-registered to vote outside a mall or grocery store or even government building may be affected.

The I-Team has obtained information about an alleged widespread pattern of potential registration fraud aimed at democrats. Thee focus of the story is a private registration company called Voters Outreach of America, AKA America Votes.

The out-of-state firm has been in Las Vegas for the past few months, registering voters. It employed up to 300 part-time workers and collected hundreds of registrations per day, but former employees of the company say that Voters Outreach of America only wanted Republican registrations.

Two former workers say they personally witnessed company supervisors rip up and trash registration forms signed by Democrats.

"We caught her taking Democrats out of my pile, handed them to her assistant and he ripped them up right in front of us. I grabbed some of them out of the garbage and she tells her assisatnt to get those from me," said Eric Russell, former Voters Outreach employee.

Eric Russell managed to retrieve a pile of shredded paperwork including signed voter registration forms, all from Democrats. We took them to the Clark County Election Department and confirmed that they had not, in fact, been filed with the county as required by law.

So the people on those forms who think they will be able to vote on Election Day are sadly mistaken. We attempted to speak to Voters Outreach but found that its office has been rented out to someone else.

The landlord says Voters Outreach was evicted for non-payment of rent. Another source said the company has now moved on to Oregon where it is once again registering voters. It's unknown how many registrations may have been tossed out, but another ex-employee told Eyewitness News she had the same suspicions when she worked there.

It's going to take a while to sort all of this out, but the immediate concern for voters is to make sure you really are registered.

Call the Clark County Election Department at 455-VOTE orclick here (http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/election/lookup.asp) to see if you are registered.

The company has been largely, if not entirely funded, by the Republican National Committee. Similar complaints have been received in Reno where the registrar has asked the FBI to investigate.

Philbo
Oct 13th, 2004, 07:48 AM
jesus Christ...

RVD
Oct 13th, 2004, 09:26 AM
I doubt that anyone is surprised to discover how far the Republicans will go to prevent The SHRUB from losing. They've still yet to fix the voting problems in Florida. :rolleyes:
Something similar to this happened to me during the primary. They had me marked down as an 'Independent'. :eek: And when I called them on it, they practically called the police because they thought I was gonna go ape-sh*t on them. :lol:

Incidentally folks...

DO NOT VOTE USING THE DIEBOLD ELECTRONIC VOTING BOOTHS. THESE SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN PROVEN FAULTY AND ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY!

Paneru
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:39 PM
I doubt that anyone is surprised to discover how far the Republicans will go to prevent The SHRUB from losing. They've still yet to fix the voting problems in Florida. :rolleyes:
Something similar to this happened to me during the primary. They had me marked down as an 'Independent'. :eek: And when I called them on it, they practically called the police because they thought I was gonna go ape-sh*t on them. :lol:

Incidentally folks...

DO NOT VOTE USING THE DIEBOLD ELECTRONIC VOTING BOOTHS. THESE SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN PROVEN FAULTY AND ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY!

Not surprised in the least! :o

"Sluggy"
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:42 PM
They gotta find a better way to do this election shit.

Helen Lawson
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Talk to Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. You can FAX your completed ballot to AMPAS for vote tabulation! It's that easy! One year I was shooting a film and couldn't be bothered, so Floyd filled the ballot out with his choices and sent it in, with my permission. Things are looser in showbiz.

Infiniti2001
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:31 PM
And here I thought this could only happen third world countries, where I may add America is very quick to point out the fraud. :rolleyes:

The U.S. is definitely losing all its values one by one--- I am so disappointed. :mad: Then again , what underhanded and unethical thing will the republicans do next?? :shrug: :fiery: :tape:

mboyle
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:43 PM
bull. They are all lying, bleeding heart liberals.

mboyle
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:44 PM
notice people that nothing has been proven in a court of law. In this terrible country of ours, we are STILL innocent until proven guilty.

Martian Willow
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:46 PM
They gotta find a better way to do this election shit.

You mean like using pencils?

Helen Lawson
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:47 PM
To be honest, Carole Anne and I were watching an MSNBC special when we were waiting for "My Foolish Heart" to start on A&E, and they said private companies hire like kids to go out and get registrations and they are paid by the number they get, so the kids, I mean, 18-19 year olds, just sign up a bunch of friends who aren't there and do the same names over and over so they puff up the numbers. The one broad they interviewed to admitting to it was Black, I mean, I don't think there are many Black republicans, I mean, she had dreadlocks and stuff, I don't think she's a Bush supporter.

Martian Willow
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:49 PM
I would like to ask how they knew which registrations were Democrats?

Crazy Canuck
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:52 PM
bull. They are all lying, bleeding heart liberals.
Gee, way to actually address the issue and not just sling mud. Typical.

Helen Lawson
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:53 PM
The show I saw didn't say anything about the registrations, but the people doing the scamming didn't seem like people getting paid off by Republicans, or Republicans themselves.

The sad truth is, a good, good number of Americans just don't give a shit, they either don't register, or they register but don't vote. Serious people who want to vote register like at a real place, the county office or the library.

Crazy Canuck
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:55 PM
It's so much easier here. If I didn't register I just show up to the voting booth the day of election with a pile of ID, proof of current mailing address, and sign 600 forms. We also don't have to register for a party, but our system is different in that sense. That aspect of American politics never made any sense to me :confused: Somebody tried to explain it to me once and I still didn't get it, so dont' bother ;)

Martian Willow
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:58 PM
You have to register for a party? What does that mean?

Helen Lawson
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:00 PM
It's so much easier here. If I didn't register I just show up to the voting booth the day of election with a pile of ID, proof of current mailing address, and sign 600 forms. We also don't have to register for a party, but our system is different in that sense. That aspect of American politics never made any sense to me :confused: Somebody tried to explain it to me once and I still didn't get it, so dont' bother ;)
I would think the problem would be that you could go around to a bunch of different polling places that day and vote numerous times. You could just have phony addresses each time. Theoretically, having a deadline means they have time to cancel out your previous registrations so that you can only vote in the last area you registered.

Infiniti2001
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:04 PM
bull. They are all lying, bleeding heart liberals.


:lol: :haha: this from someone who cannot vote yet :lol: Anyway , it's a fact that the republicans are under investigation for throwing away democrat voter registration forms in both Oregon and Nevada. I can't wait to hear how this turns out :tape:

Crazy Canuck
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:05 PM
I would think the problem would be that you could go around to a bunch of different polling places that day and vote numerous times. You could just have phony addresses each time. Theoretically, having a deadline means they have time to cancel out your previous registrations so that you can only vote in the last area you registered.
You could probably do that but you would probably find out ass in jail. You sign the 2343 forms so that if you do that you have to pay for doing it. There is also a little more to it than I said. You have to show proof of address, for example I had to show up with official school crap that had been sent there, among some other boring paper work. Technically I could also probably vote in my home town, but I'm not sure that I see the value in bussing home for 50 bucks just to get arrested, you know?

Crazy Canuck
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:05 PM
:lol: :haha: this from someone who cannot vote yet :lol: Anyway , it's a fact that the republicans are under investigation for throwing away democrat voter registration forms in both Oregon and Nevada. I can't wait to hear how this turns out :tape:
He's a parrot. Worth laughing at but not really worth replying to seriously ;)

Once he hits 20 and gets out of the house for a bit maybe he'll be capable of original thought and stop spitting out what Mommy and Daddy taught him? Probably not ;)

Crazy Canuck
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:08 PM
He's a parrot. Worth laughing at but not really worth replying to seriously ;)

Once he hits 20 and gets out of the house for a bit maybe he'll be capable of original thought and stop spitting out what Mommy and Daddy taught him? Probably not ;)
For what it's worth, I don't have any patience for know-it-all, self righteous little brats that spit out Left-winged ideals that their parents fed them either ;)

cynicole
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Aren't you supposed to receive a confirmation in the mail that you did register and where you're supposed to report to anyway? I know that if I didn't receive my confirmation letter I was supposed to go to city hall to check up on it.

cynicole
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:16 PM
I would like to ask how they knew which registrations were Democrats?
They probably chose their party affiliation as "Democrat." You don't have to choose your party affiliation (just pick "Undeclared") for the general elections.

It actually makes a difference if you choose when when it comes to the primaries though.

DeDe4925
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:44 PM
I would like to ask how they knew which registrations were Democrats?
Obviously, you're not from this country. :rolleyes:

DeDe4925
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Aren't you supposed to receive a confirmation in the mail that you did register and where you're supposed to report to anyway? I know that if I didn't receive my confirmation letter I was supposed to go to city hall to check up on it.
You're supposed to receive a registration card. But, if they are registering late, they may not get in time for election day.

Martian Willow
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Obviously, you're not from this country. :rolleyes:

Obviously I'm not. Does that merit a :rolleyes: ? :shrug:

DeDe4925
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:45 PM
Obviously I'm not. Does that merit a :rolleyes: ? :shrug:
Obviously. ;)

harloo
Oct 13th, 2004, 08:32 PM
Nev. Move to Block Some Dem Voters Fails

16 minutes ago




By ADAM GOLDMAN, Associated Press Writer

LAS VEGAS - Elections officials have rebuffed an attempt by a former GOP operative to purge about 17,000 Democrats from the voter rolls in the battleground state of Nevada, where the two presidential candidates are in a dead heat.


Dan Burdish, former head of the state Republican Party, filed a challenge last week claiming the Democrats should be removed from the rolls because they were inactive voters.


But Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax rejected the move Tuesday, saying Burdish could only challenge voters in his precinct, and then only if he has personal knowledge that they are inactive.


"I don't think pulling names off a database equates to personal knowledge," Lomax said.


Under state law, voters are placed on "inactive status" if they move and don't update their addresses within 30 days of receiving notice to do so. Their registrations are then canceled if they don't vote in two consecutive federal elections.


Democrats have criticized Burdish for trying to influence the hotly contested congressional race between Republican Rep. Jon Porter (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/politics/news/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Rep.%20Jon%20Porter%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw), bio (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/bio/SIG=118tkpmiq/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=6778), voting record (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/vote/SIG=11hkdgg85/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=6778)) and his Democratic challenger, former casino executive Tom Gallagher, in the 3rd District.


State Republican officials have also distanced themselves from Burdish.


But Burdish denied trying to disenfranchise people.


The Democrats are just "blowing hot air as far as I'm concerned," Burdish said. "I'm not suppressing any vote unless it's in a local district they are not allowed to vote in."


The latest polls have showed President Bush (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22President%20Bush%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw) - web sites (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=President%20Bush)) and Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22John%20Kerry%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw) - web sites (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=John%20Kerry)) running within a few percentage points of each other in Nevada. Democrat Al Gore (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Al%20Gore%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw) - web sites (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=Al%20Gore)) lost the state by fewer than 22,000 votes in 2000.

Crazy Canuck
Oct 13th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Obviously, you're not from this country. :rolleyes:
Thank you, Captain Obvious. That's probably why she was asking the question. Now, this response DOES merit a :rolleyes:

Hagar
Oct 14th, 2004, 08:57 AM
I would like to ask how they knew which registrations were Democrats?
I'm also wondering about this.

Hagar
Oct 14th, 2004, 08:59 AM
The UN and the European Union should send observers to these elections.

Wigglytuff
Oct 14th, 2004, 09:05 AM
bull. They are all lying, bleeding heart liberals.

what evidence do you have thats its a lie....??

oh wait... NONE!!!

Crazy Canuck
Oct 14th, 2004, 09:36 AM
The UN and the European Union should send observers to these elections.
LOL! Yeah, right ;)

nicky
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:48 AM
The UN and the European Union should send observers to these elections.

They do...at least the EU does. There was an interview on the radio a couple of days ago with two observers. I was rather surprised to hear about it though.

turt
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:00 AM
They do...at least the EU does. There was an interview on the radio a couple of days ago with two observers. I was rather surprised to hear about it though.
Yeah it's true lol, it's the first time in history after the Florida mess 4 years ago...

European team to observe US election

09.08.2004 - 09:02 CET | By Lisbeth Kirk
The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) will monitor the US election on 2 November. It will be the first time such a team has been present for a US presidential election.

Thirteen Democratic members of the House of Representatives had requested UN monitors for this year's presidential elections in an effort to avoid possible voting irregularities that plagued the 2000 election, the closest in history.

In a letter to the 13 Democrats, Assistant Secretary of State Paul Kelly did not mention their request for UN observers but said the United States had already invited the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) to observe the 2004 presidential elections.

The OSCE, based in Vienna, Austria, has sent more than 10,000 personnel to monitor more than 150 elections and referenda in more than 30 countries during the past decade, spokeswoman Urdur Gunnarsdottir told CNN.

She also said the observer team would go to the US in September to plan how to monitor the election, including how many observers to send and where to deploy them.

The OSCE is the largest regional security organisation in the world with 55 participating States from Europe, Central Asia and North America.

OSCE members, including the United States, agreed in 1990 in Copenhagen to allow fellow members to observe elections in one another's countries.

In November 2002, the organisation sent 10 observers on a week-long mission to monitor the US midterm elections and also sent observers to monitor the California election last year.

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:03 PM
This is not just in Nevada - there has been moves in South Dakota and Ohio to block traditional Democratic voters from the polls.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Thank you, Captain Obvious. That's probably why she was asking the question. Now, this response DOES merit a :rolleyes:
Were you born a bitch, or did your mama train you to be one? :kiss:

Hagar
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Yeah it's true lol, it's the first time in history after the Florida mess 4 years ago...

European team to observe US election

09.08.2004 - 09:02 CET | By Lisbeth Kirk
The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) will monitor the US election on 2 November. It will be the first time such a team has been present for a US presidential election.

Thirteen Democratic members of the House of Representatives had requested UN monitors for this year's presidential elections in an effort to avoid possible voting irregularities that plagued the 2000 election, the closest in history.

In a letter to the 13 Democrats, Assistant Secretary of State Paul Kelly did not mention their request for UN observers but said the United States had already invited the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) to observe the 2004 presidential elections.

The OSCE, based in Vienna, Austria, has sent more than 10,000 personnel to monitor more than 150 elections and referenda in more than 30 countries during the past decade, spokeswoman Urdur Gunnarsdottir told CNN.

She also said the observer team would go to the US in September to plan how to monitor the election, including how many observers to send and where to deploy them.

The OSCE is the largest regional security organisation in the world with 55 participating States from Europe, Central Asia and North America.

OSCE members, including the United States, agreed in 1990 in Copenhagen to allow fellow members to observe elections in one another's countries.

In November 2002, the organisation sent 10 observers on a week-long mission to monitor the US midterm elections and also sent observers to monitor the California election last year.
For the record: the OSCE is not the EU...

griffin
Oct 14th, 2004, 07:24 PM
The UN and the European Union should send observers to these elections.

I wish you would! :lol: ( :sad: actually)

As for voter cards/confirmations: I know I"m registered because I voted in the primaries, but I don't remember EVER getting confirmation that I'd registered.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 08:54 PM
I wish you would! :lol: ( :sad: actually)

As for voter cards/confirmations: I know I"m registered because I voted in the primaries, but I don't remember EVER getting confirmation that I'd registered.
In Texas, we receive voter registration cards. I thought that was nationwide. I guess not. :confused:

cynicole
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:51 PM
As for voter cards/confirmations: I know I"m registered because I voted in the primaries, but I don't remember EVER getting confirmation that I'd registered. I'm in the same state as you (I think) and I got one. Then again, I just registered in Massachusetts this year. (I was living in California during the last election.)

Crazy Canuck
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:06 PM
They do...at least the EU does. There was an interview on the radio a couple of days ago with two observers. I was rather surprised to hear about it though.

lol! My mistake, I had no idea. The idea seemed too ridiculous to be an actual possibility ;)

Crazy Canuck
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:07 PM
Were you born a bitch, or did your mama train you to be one? :kiss:
Clllllleeeevvvveeeerrr.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:17 PM
Clllllleeeevvvveeeerrr.
And, what a clever retort. ;)