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tennisIlove09
Oct 12th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Jackson Seeks Ban on Eminem's New Video

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NEW YORK - Michael Jackson (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/celeb/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Michael%20Jackson%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw)) is reportedly angered by the way he is portrayed in rapper Eminem (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Eminem%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw) - web sites (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=Eminem))'s recently released video "Just Lose It." The pop singer is said to be so upset that he has asked networks to remove the video from their rotations.

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"Michael Jackson is very angry. He feels that Eminem has crossed the line," Jackson representative Ramone Bain told the Daily News in Tuesday editions. "Michael is calling on all networks to pull the video."



In the video, Eminem appears dressed mockingly as Jackson with a group of boys in the background, jumping. Then he sings the lyric in reference to Jackson's child molestation allegations: "Come here little kiddie, on my lap. Guess who's back with a brand new rap..."



Later in the video Eminem also ridicules plastic surgery done on Jackson's nose, and an accident in which Jackson's hair caught on fire while filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984.



So far, Black Entertainment Television has agreed to pull the video, and was expected on Tuesday to announce that it is removing the video.

"Michael feels the video is disrespectful and offensive...it's one thing to spoof someone, it's another to be completely insensitive and disrespectful," said Bain.

esquímaux
Oct 12th, 2004, 09:34 PM
:rolleyes:

harloo
Oct 12th, 2004, 10:09 PM
Eminem did go to far, but it's funny as hell. I can imagine why Michael would be upset. Em did Mike so scandalous in the video. ;)

rand
Oct 13th, 2004, 09:46 AM
michael :roll:
but to be perfectly honest I don't really like em's new video....
a bit too much the same as "without me"

esquímaux
Oct 13th, 2004, 09:52 AM
Obviously Em has fallen off so any publicity is good publicity, no?

TimBo
Oct 13th, 2004, 12:43 PM
Eminem looks sexy in the video. I dont normally like him, but he does look hot

esquímaux
Oct 13th, 2004, 12:54 PM
:retard:

harloo
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:32 PM
michael :roll:
but to be perfectly honest I don't really like em's new video....
a bit too much the same as "without me"
exactly:lol:

Sally Struthers
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:35 PM
If you can't take the heat stop molesting the children :o

DevilishAttitude
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:28 PM
If you can't take the heat stop molesting the children :o

:haha: :rolls: :lol:
Michael Jackson needs to get a life - espeacilly now since he might be in prison soon :cool: he needs the little time outside hes got left :)

Bacardi
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:30 PM
BET has already agreed to ban it, damn do they heed to Micheal's beck 'n call? Or is it they are going to ban it because Em is white and Mike is black, and as BET network that's the "most logical thing to do"?

MTV so far, hasn't banned it, and said they won't ban it.

Helen Lawson
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:45 PM
You know what, I am really starting to not regret the Oscar we gave him a few years ago. I saw a blip of the video, and it's funny as hell. I think I'm going to have to go and buy an Eminem CD and Carole Anne and I will listen to it.

esquímaux
Oct 13th, 2004, 07:04 PM
BET has already agreed to ban it, damn do they heed to Micheal's beck 'n call? Or is it they are going to ban it because Em is white and Mike is black, and as BET network that's the "most logical thing to do"?

MTV so far, hasn't banned it, and said they won't ban it.BET banned that video out of long-standing respect for Michael and his music. It's not something to be mocked by some modern day "artist" looking to make a quick buck at the expense of ridiculing a music legend while he's down. Now I do like some of Marshall Marthers' songs, but this isn't one.

DeDe4925
Oct 13th, 2004, 07:45 PM
BET has already agreed to ban it, damn do they heed to Micheal's beck 'n call? Or is it they are going to ban it because Em is white and Mike is black, and as BET network that's the "most logical thing to do"?

MTV so far, hasn't banned it, and said they won't ban it.
Yeah, but BET and MTV are owned by the same company.

harloo
Oct 13th, 2004, 08:23 PM
BET banned that video out of long-standing respect for Michael and his music. It's not something to be mocked by some modern day "artist" looking to make a quick buck at the expense of ridiculing a music legend while he's down. Now I do like some of Marshall Marthers' songs, but this isn't one.
:clap2: :clap2:

jrm
Oct 13th, 2004, 08:32 PM
The video loses all his credibility with that bimbo Hilton

Rocketta
Oct 13th, 2004, 10:23 PM
I'm not a supportor of Michael or anything but Em is LAME....I mean get a clue and how about not doing the same song over and over...:rolleyes: Comedy loses it's funniness when the comedian does the same exact joke but just uses different words over and over and over and over...boring...:yawn: :zzz: :yawn: :zzz:

switz
Oct 14th, 2004, 12:31 AM
yes eminem is so 2 years ago. he should really just stick to producing because his music is shit and it's really sad when 'artists' need to rely on being controversial to sell music rather than talent.

jbone_0307
Oct 14th, 2004, 12:53 AM
I was just going to say something about it, but esquimax summed it up. Micheal is a legend and pioneer in the music industry and should be respected, even if he does look like a monkey. Eminems been sucking and is just looking for a buck, with D12 and all of that crap.

Andy Mac
Oct 14th, 2004, 01:23 AM
micheal has brought that to himself....thats all i have to say...altho i do like his music

Andy Mac
Oct 14th, 2004, 01:57 AM
thank you felllow canadian....yes thats exactly what im saying...he's just stupid..no other way to put it...u cant act like he does and did and still demand respect..hes abnormal

VeNuS#1LoVa
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:56 AM
I hate Eminem, but I don't liek the present day Jackson either....

I must admit Thriller is on my MP3 player... :bowdown:

hotandspicey
Oct 14th, 2004, 03:42 AM
If you can't take the heat stop molesting the children :oWhatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty".

jrm
Oct 14th, 2004, 09:48 PM
Has Michael seen Scary movie 3???

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 09:52 PM
I'm not a supportor of Michael or anything but Em is LAME....I mean get a clue and how about not doing the same song over and over...:rolleyes: Comedy loses it's funniness when the comedian does the same exact joke but just uses different words over and over and over and over...boring...:yawn: :zzz: :yawn: :zzz:
I agree. Isn't that the same tune he broke out with? :lol:

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 09:53 PM
yes eminem is so 2 years ago. he should really just stick to producing because his music is shit and it's really sad when 'artists' need to rely on being controversial to sell music rather than talent.
So true!!!

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 09:58 PM
Exactly. We don't know exactly what he did with kids, but it's a fact that he does "like" kids. And people should be allowed to make fun of him, legend or not. And respect?
What do you mean "like"?? Like you said, you don't know what he did with kids and you don't know that it's a fact that he's a pedophile either. Should people be allowed to make fun of you or your mother or father or grandparents or sisters or brothers? Do you know for a fact that he's done anything disrespectful to anyone aside from the rumors, charges and innuendos? No, I didn't think so. Just because he's different, doesn't make him any less human or less deserving of respect than you or anyone in your family.

Rocketta
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:04 PM
my thing is if Michael has done all the things he's accused of......isn't Em not only making fun of Michael but the kids that were victimized? :scratch: Seems to me it's in poor taste regardless of whether Michael is innocent or not. :shrug:

kiwifan
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:13 PM
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: Its all a big corporate shell game.Yeah, but BET and MTV are owned by the same company.:lol: :lol: :tape:

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:17 PM
People need to laugh at themselves. I would expect people to laugh at me if my behavior would be strange and questionnable.

And Eminem precisely made fun of Jackson because he knows he has a bunch of oversensitive fans who only see the legend side of him and can't realize he's a sad person.

And thankfully I have no one in my family who's like MJ.
How do you know your behavior is not strange and questionable to others? Why would you expect people to laugh at you? That's stupid. How do you know the reasons Eminem made this video? Do you honestly think he did it help Michael and his fans realize he's a sad person? :lol: Come on!!! He did it to make money off the controversy it would stir. What exactly is Michael Jackson like that makes him different from anyone in your family, aside from the obvious? If you're talking about his plastic surgeries, that's very shallow of you. How do you know that anyone in your family has never had plastic surgery? Are you talking about what he does in the privacy of him home or his spare time? No, you couldn't be, because you don't know.

decemberlove
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:24 PM
How do you know your behavior is not strange and questionable to others? Why would you expect people to laugh at you? That's stupid. How do you know the reasons Eminem made this video? Do you honestly think he did it help Michael and his fans realize he's a sad person? :lol: Come on!!! He did it to make money off the controversy it would stir. What exactly is Michael Jackson like that makes him different from anyone in your family, aside from the obvious? If you're talking about his plastic surgeries, that's very shallow of you. How do you know that anyone in your family has never had plastic surgery? Are you talking about what he does in the privacy of him home or his spare time? No, you couldn't be, because you don't know.
maybe no one in dr. bagel's family makes their kids walk around covering their faces... or hangs babies over railings... or tries to be a race they are not...

i think you just proved his point about oversensitive fans.

Martian Willow
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Eminem is a tit.

lizchris
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:42 PM
Go Eminem :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
No he hasn't.

At least both like to call black people n****rs.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:44 PM
maybe no one in dr. bagel's family makes their kids walk around covering their faces... or hangs babies over railings... or tries to be a race they are not...

i think you just proved his point about oversensitive fans.
I don't give a shit about Michael Jackson. I do however give a shit about whether someone, a human being...one of God's children, is vilified before all of the facts are in.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Since when can't we make fun of other people?

Why don't we just abolish humor? We can't fun anymore of George Bush. We can't make fun of anymore of Britney. Yeah, whatever.

I'm not going to argue whether he's strange or not, that's just an opinion, it doesn't change anything to my opinion anyway.

And yes, Eminem did it for money and attention. It was implied in my previous post.
Make fun of George, the murdering Bush Anti-Christ all you want. ;)

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:49 PM
How was he villified in the video?
Did you see the video? Have you heard the song? Did you read your posts? I was really talking about both of you. Use whatever word you like...villified, ostracized, shunned, made to feel less than, dehumanized.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 10:49 PM
So it's ok for George, but not for Michael. :silly:
Well, the facts are in about George. Wouldn't you say? :wavey:

njguido11
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:17 PM
I was just going to say something about it, but esquimax summed it up. Micheal is a legend and pioneer in the music industry and should be respected, even if he does look like a monkey. Eminems been sucking and is just looking for a buck, with D12 and all of that crap.

I think this song sux but i have never liked any of his lead off songs but every single one of his albums have been all together great productions. I dont see how em is 2 yrs ago. most artists have a time period between their releases . he will still out sell all the artists that are considered to be hot right now. And sorry Michael looses all his music credibility by sleeping with lil boys and morphing himself into the creature he looks like now

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Tell me what's so horrible with the video. Tell me what's wrong with what I said. I didn't villify him, just said that he's strange and sad. That's just the truth.
Well, since he's strange and sad, which could be said of the Elephant man or anyone who is deformed or different from the "norm", why would it be okay to make fun of him?

decemberlove
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Well, since he's strange and sad, which could be said of the Elephant man or anyone who is deformed or different from the "norm", why would it be okay to make fun of him?
how can you even compare the elephant man with michael? that's disgusting. michael did that to himself WILLINGLY cos he obviously has racial issues and is ashamed of who he is.

the elephant man did not have 103829048209 surgeries to deform himself.

decemberlove
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:39 PM
I don't give a shit about Michael Jackson. I do however give a shit about whether someone, a human being...one of God's children, is vilified before all of the facts are in.
god's children :rolleyes:

he isn't being villified.

the video is a satire... eminem was just poking fun.

michael has been made fun of MANY times... its an easy laugh. so why are people now flipping out about it? cos it's a video? or is it cos of the recent controversy with the old eminem tape? i think that if it was dave chappelle making fun of MJ it would be considered HILARIOUS.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:49 PM
i think that if it was dave chappelle making fun of MJ it would be considered HILARIOUS.Spot on...I just don't get why Michael Jackson is picking THIS to get all pissy off...he's been ripped apart in countless movies and articles. Every late night comic has had their way with him. Why is it he keeps his mouth shut over all of those insults, yet can't keep quiet any longer when Eminem does it?

At the same time, I really am starting to think this is the beginning of the end for Marshall Mathers. He's made a career out of bashing people, and he's gotten progressively higher on the food chain. First it his wife...then Moby...then Lynne Cheney...now Michael Jackson. Family member to fairly big musician to very well known woman in the political world to the BIGGEST POP ICON IN HISTORY. Where do you go from here? You can't climb much higher. He needs to stop the petty middle school feuds and focus on making great music, which he is more than capable of doing. One more album of shit like this and he's DONE. Mark my words. He's got millions and millions of fans waiting for him to make a statement and say something meaningful. His middle finger can only work for so long.

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:50 PM
how can you even compare the elephant man with michael? that's disgusting. michael did that to himself WILLINGLY cos he obviously has racial issues and is ashamed of who he is.

the elephant man did not have 103829048209 surgeries to deform himself.
I'm not comparing him to anyone. The issue was that he was strange and sad, which I do not disagree with. Michael obviously has some emotional and mental issues. Would it make you feel better for me to compare him to someone suffering from mental illness? He's still strange and sad. Does it make it less awful to make fun of him then?

DeDe4925
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:54 PM
The difference is about choice... There is a difference between making fun of someone for his choices/attitude and making fun of someone over something he doesn't have control of.

MJ is totally responsible for what happens to him. Again, I don't care what he did with the little boys, but he does like to be around young people... And you ARE looking for trouble when you're an adult and you're trying to be "friend" with young people like he did.
Like I said to decemberlove, I think Michael has some emotional problems. I don't know what happened between him and any children, if anything. But, sometimes people make choices that are obviously not healthy for them when they have emotional and/or mental problems. Yes, he's responsible for what happens to him, but his responsiblity for his own actions doesn't give people carte blanche to make fun of him because they think he's "sad and strange". No matter what you say, it's not justifiable. I think that it speaks volumes of the people that make fun.

DeDe4925
Oct 15th, 2004, 12:00 AM
god's children :rolleyes:

he isn't being villified.

the video is a satire... eminem was just poking fun.

michael has been made fun of MANY times... its an easy laugh. so why are people now flipping out about it? cos it's a video? or is it cos of the recent controversy with the old eminem tape? i think that if it was dave chappelle making fun of MJ it would be considered HILARIOUS.
Do you not consider Michael Jackson one of God's children? Or, was the rolling of the eyes a result of atheism? Further disrespect? Even if you don't believe, I do, but you would show disrespect to that belief? If that's the case, we don't have anything further to say to each other. Whether you believe or not is of no consequence to me. That's your business and I would never disrespect you for it. However, it's quite clear why you're so hostile and why you can't see that it's not okay to make fun of people, especially when that "satire" not only shows a disrespect for the person accused of a horrendous crime, but for the children who are alledgedly the victims of such a crime.

DeDe4925
Oct 15th, 2004, 12:04 AM
Spot on...I just don't get why Michael Jackson is picking THIS to get all pissy off...he's been ripped apart in countless movies and articles. Every late night comic has had their way with him. Why is it he keeps his mouth shut over all of those insults, yet can't keep quiet any longer when Eminem does it?

At the same time, I really am starting to think this is the beginning of the end for Marshall Mathers. He's made a career out of bashing people, and he's gotten progressively higher on the food chain. First it his wife...then Moby...then Lynne Cheney...now Michael Jackson. Family member to fairly big musician to very well known woman in the political world to the BIGGEST POP ICON IN HISTORY. Where do you go from here? You can't climb much higher. He needs to stop the petty middle school feuds and focus on making great music, which he is more than capable of doing. One more album of shit like this and he's DONE. Mark my words. He's got millions and millions of fans waiting for him to make a statement and say something meaningful. His middle finger can only work for so long.

Aside from the first paragraph, I totally agree with this post. Maybe he's pissed because it's a video that can be shown over and over again. You can only tell so many jokes about MJ before it gets old and you move on to something else. Who knows, only MJ.

Regarding Marshall Mathers, he's too old for such antics. I really enjoyed the movie he played in and the music. It was a total departure from his CD's, now he's back to the old formula. He reminds me of Ike Turner..."everything sounds the same".

decemberlove
Oct 15th, 2004, 12:17 AM
Do you not consider Michael Jackson one of God's children? Or, was the rolling of the eyes a result of atheism? Further disrespect? Even if you don't believe, I do, but you would show disrespect to that belief? If that's the case, we don't have anything further to say to each other. Whether you believe or not is of no consequence to me. That's your business and I would never disrespect you for it. However, it's quite clear why you're so hostile and why you can't see that it's not okay to make fun of people, especially when that "satire" not only shows a disrespect for the person accused of a horrendous crime, but for the children who are alledgedly the victims of such a crime.
i'm not an atheist.

but even if i was, that doesn't make me an immoral person.

when you are a public figure, you are subject to ridicule. that's how it works. are we supposed to keep our mouths closed cos it might hurt the next person? what happened to freedom of speech? i guess that goes out the window when the king of pop is involved.

regarding the other post, my point was that MJ brought this on himself. he wasn't born with a nose that was ready to fall off from surgery... or with bleached skin. i feel bad for him, i do. i think it's terrible that he's ashamed of who he is. but yknow what i think is even worse? that people continually ignore his obvious issues cos they "respect" him too much to say anything as opposed to actually trying to get him some help. they just let him live in this illusion that he has created for himself. if it was a regular guy doing what he does, he would've been put in jail or a mental hospital years ago.

jbone_0307
Oct 15th, 2004, 01:00 AM
Hell if it weren't for Michael Jackson, his ass would probably still be in the slums of Detroit.

Mr_Molik
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:04 AM
yes eminem is so 2 years ago. he should really just stick to producing because his music is shit and it's really sad when 'artists' need to rely on being controversial to sell music rather than talent.
so true

HAIL-VENUS
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:40 AM
Ok, shit, it was just too many posts to read, so here's my take on the controversy; I like Eminem. He's not afraid to speak his mind, not afraid of the consequences, not afraid to express himself through his art. If Michael Jackson didn't put himself out there like that, then he wouldn't have to go through this shit. I say, guelty or innocent, Michael sets himself up for this sort of abuse. It's his own fault. I don't blame Slim at all. He let's everyone have it. I admire people who aren't afraid or embarassed to be opinionated. To Michael: you're crazy ass should know that somebody's gonna attack you because of your eccentric and maybe even criminal ways. You are and will forever be a musical icon and a legend, but face it, you've made yourself into a fucking joke now. So just fucking get over it, damn, live and let live. Michael fucked himself up more than anyone else ever could.

harloo
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:13 AM
Ok, shit, it was just too many posts to read, so here's my take on the controversy; I like Eminem. He's not afraid to speak his mind, not afraid of the consequences, not afraid to express himself through his art. If Michael Jackson didn't put himself out there like that, then he wouldn't have to go through this shit. I say, guelty or innocent, Michael sets himself up for this sort of abuse. It's his own fault. I don't blame Slim at all. He let's everyone have it. I admire people who aren't afraid or embarassed to be opinionated. To Michael: you're crazy ass should know that somebody's gonna attack you because of your eccentric and maybe even criminal ways. You are and will forever be a musical icon and a legend, but face it, you've made yourself into a fucking joke now. So just fucking get over it, damn, live and let live. Michael fucked himself up more than anyone else ever could.
Eminem is one of the rudest artist and he is very disrespectful to others. I myself don't mind parody or poking fun of someone, but Eminem does shit to get attention. Their is nothing wrong with spoofing someone but the way he did Michael in that video was scandalous.

Artists like Eminem and 50 cent disgust me because they don't rely on their talent, but attack others to sell records. They think that dissing someone and making fun of folks will prove that they are on some tough guy bullshit, but what they don't realize is that they look childish.

I am not even defending Michael because he does have issues. However, when that punk Eminem threatened Moby at the MTV awards for no apparent reason I felt he was a lowlife. Yes his music was great when he first arrived on the scene, but the new song shows no growth at all.

Michael has a right to be upset and since Eminem LOVES controversy (even stooping low enough to bring his daughter into the negativity) he should suffer some backlash. The little backlash won't matter anyways, because a bunch of white children will pick up his album anyways.

I was through with the whole aftermath/shady crew when 50 cent brought his son on stage in a bulletproof vest and told him to make some scandalous comment.:rolleyes: :fiery:

rand
Oct 15th, 2004, 08:39 AM
Well, since he's strange and sad, which could be said of the Elephant man or anyone who is deformed or different from the "norm", why would it be okay to make fun of him?
You mean like Michael Jackson did in the leave me alone video? :p

rand
Oct 15th, 2004, 08:40 AM
how can you even compare the elephant man with michael? that's disgusting. michael did that to himself WILLINGLY cos he obviously has racial issues and is ashamed of who he is.

the elephant man did not have 103829048209 surgeries to deform himself.
true also (y)

rand
Oct 15th, 2004, 08:41 AM
I think this song sux but i have never liked any of his lead off songs but every single one of his albums have been all together great productions. I dont see how em is 2 yrs ago. most artists have a time period between their releases . he will still out sell all the artists that are considered to be hot right now. And sorry Michael looses all his music credibility by sleeping with lil boys and morphing himself into the creature he looks like now
I agree with that too...

rand
Oct 15th, 2004, 08:47 AM
Spot on...I just don't get why Michael Jackson is picking THIS to get all pissy off...he's been ripped apart in countless movies and articles. Every late night comic has had their way with him. Why is it he keeps his mouth shut over all of those insults, yet can't keep quiet any longer when Eminem does it?

At the same time, I really am starting to think this is the beginning of the end for Marshall Mathers. He's made a career out of bashing people, and he's gotten progressively higher on the food chain. First it his wife...then Moby...then Lynne Cheney...now Michael Jackson. Family member to fairly big musician to very well known woman in the political world to the BIGGEST POP ICON IN HISTORY. Where do you go from here? You can't climb much higher. He needs to stop the petty middle school feuds and focus on making great music, which he is more than capable of doing. One more album of shit like this and he's DONE. Mark my words. He's got millions and millions of fans waiting for him to make a statement and say something meaningful. His middle finger can only work for so long.
o no...from then on he can finally really become political, white america was a good start..if he puts his energy in songs like that or songs like the ones about his daughter, especially the one with the 9/11 reference)..so start bashing the politics, and there's still a veeeeeery long career ahead of you marsh :worship:

DeDe4925
Oct 15th, 2004, 06:52 PM
i'm not an atheist.
That's good to know. :)

but even if i was, that doesn't make me an immoral person.
I never said you or anyone else was. I just stated that I would never disrespect anyone for their beliefs or non-beliefs as the case may be and I don't appreciate being disrespected for mine. It was totally a case of misunderstanding on my part about you rolling your eyes at the fact that he is one of God's children.

when you are a public figure, you are subject to ridicule. that's how it works. are we supposed to keep our mouths closed cos it might hurt the next person? what happened to freedom of speech? i guess that goes out the window when the king of pop is involved.

My argument has nothing to do with anyone's right to free speech. It's a moral issue. The issue being that I believe it's wrong to make fun of someone accused of a crime when we don't have all the facts. I also feel that in doing so, we re-victimize the children in the process. Also, what good does it do to make fun or ridicule someone who is so pathetic? Is it going to change him into being "normal" or make him even more strange and withdrawn? Yes, and what good does it do to hurt someone? Whether he's the king of pop or the king of crap, he's a human being. Whatever happened to goodwill towards men? What happened to compassion?

regarding the other post, my point was that MJ brought this on himself. he wasn't born with a nose that was ready to fall off from surgery... or with bleached skin. i feel bad for him, i do. i think it's terrible that he's ashamed of who he is. but yknow what i think is even worse? that people continually ignore his obvious issues cos they "respect" him too much to say anything as opposed to actually trying to get him some help. they just let him live in this illusion that he has created for himself. if it was a regular guy doing what he does, he would've been put in jail or a mental hospital years ago.

You're right, it's a matter of respect. It's his business what he does with his body. That's between him and God. He's a grown man, you can't force a person to get help if they don't want it. You don't know if his family has tried to talk to him about this issue, but they also love him and I'm sure they don't want to alienate him. I'm not sure why you think he should be put in jail or a mental hospital. If it's because he has a problem with self-hate or whether you think he is a pedophile. If it's because he's had multiple plastic surgeries, he's in denial and he hates himself, he hasn't been placed in jail for that because it's not a crime. Nor is it a enough to have someone committed. If that's the case, Joan Rivers would be first on the list. If it's the latter, he was jailed and he is being charged with that crime. Now, we all have to wait for the facts to come out and allow the judicial process to take place.

DeDe4925
Oct 15th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Eminem is one of the rudest artist and he is very disrespectful to others. I myself don't mind parody or poking fun of someone, but Eminem does shit to get attention. Their is nothing wrong with spoofing someone but the way he did Michael in that video was scandalous.

Artists like Eminem and 50 cent disgust me because they don't rely on their talent, but attack others to sell records. They think that dissing someone and making fun of folks will prove that they are on some tough guy bullshit, but what they don't realize is that they look childish.

I am not even defending Michael because he does have issues. However, when that punk Eminem threatened Moby at the MTV awards for no apparent reason I felt he was a lowlife. Yes his music was great when he first arrived on the scene, but the new song shows no growth at all.

Michael has a right to be upset and since Eminem LOVES controversy (even stooping low enough to bring his daughter into the negativity) he should suffer some backlash. The little backlash won't matter anyways, because a bunch of white children will pick up his album anyways.

I was through with the whole aftermath/shady crew when 50 cent brought his son on stage in a bulletproof vest and told him to make some scandalous comment.:rolleyes: :fiery:
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DeDe4925
Oct 15th, 2004, 06:59 PM
You mean like Michael Jackson did in the leave me alone video? :p
What are you 12? Obviously you didn't understand the metaphor. Grow up and watch the video again. :rolleyes: