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CJ07
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:05 PM
Or is he just some dumbass who profited off pops?

Just wondering if this board is THAT far left.

Dave B
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Or is he just some dumbass who profited off pops?

Just wondering if this board is THAT far left.

Although I am not a fan of Bush by any means, I did like his "No Child Left Behind" bill. Although the name is :retard:

Bacardi
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:15 PM
He certainly profited off his father. And like the first Bush to serve as President he'll only get one term as well. ;)

I will say he's done maybe a few good things, starting with keeping the word GOD in use.

But IMO, the bad, evil, and wrong he's done, far outweighs any right he's ever done. And to think, he cannot even admit one mistake he's made, not even one.

decemberlove
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:21 PM
I will say he's done maybe a few good things, starting with keeping the word GOD in use.
i think that's one of the worst.

Bacardi
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:25 PM
:lol: Well, if he took it out, we'd have new money, new court rooms and everything else. He'd have yet another reason for claiming we're wasting money on useless things. When it's actually him wasting it. :o

Shane54
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:27 PM
SMM- he has done many good things. But he has that "R" behind his name.

Where was all the anger when Clinton bombed Iraq "without congressional approval". What about when we sent troops into Bosnia and Kosovo? Were they threats to us? NOPE. But Clinton had the "D" behind his name.:rolleyes:

Bacardi
Oct 10th, 2004, 08:31 PM
Name some things off the top of your head that he's done that are so good? Name a few you agree with. Instead of coming in with the "he's done many good things" excuse. You sound just like W in the "i've done several things wrong" and yet not going in to admitting what mistakes, or your stance on anything.

CJ07
Oct 10th, 2004, 10:03 PM
Name some things off the top of your head that he's done that are so good? Name a few you agree with. Instead of coming in with the "he's done many good things" excuse. You sound just like W in the "i've done several things wrong" and yet not going in to admitting what mistakes, or your stance on anything.
No child left behind-Or atleast the theory of it
Captured 75% of AlQueda Members
Tax Breaks that fueled the economy
Helped Unify the Country After 9/11
Captured Saddam Hussein

Thats just off the top of my head

AjdeNate!
Oct 10th, 2004, 10:07 PM
Hmmmm, I'm sure he's done some good things. I mean the rich love their tax break. ( :p ). But, ranking all the Presidents in the past on efficiency and overall Presidential ability.... he has be ranked in the 40s.

Bacardi
Oct 10th, 2004, 10:51 PM
No child left behind-Or atleast the theory of it
Captured 75% of AlQueda Members
Tax Breaks that fueled the economy
Helped Unify the Country After 9/11
Captured Saddam Hussein

Thats just off the top of my head

The theory of no child left behind was a great idea. That I agree with, however he's going to fail at it. As he'd rather spend the big bucks on a useless war, and tax cuts for the rich.

Yet, he left the biggest Al Queda memeber alive out there, Bin Laden! When he was cornered in the mountains, Bush pulled out to go get Saddam, a man who didn't do anything to contribute to 9/11, nor have any WMD. Very wise indeed. If anything Bush has caused more HATE from the Middle East and the Al Queda will be back as bigger and badder than before.

Tax Breaks, fueled the economy? Are we living on the same planet here. More Americans have lost jobs since he took office, there is continued out sourcing of American jobs, the jobs they get back pay LESS than what they had to start with, and the deficit is the largest it's been in US History, another 4 years and we'll have "The Great Depression II" on our hands. Even Bush's own people, know he's done shit for the economy unless your name is Halbutron Cheney!

The weeks following 9/11 we had the side of all the world with us. We were all unified, not 2 parties, we were together as one. Since that, and his stupid war on Iraq, America is more divided than ever before. How you can say we're still united to this day is beyond me. :confused:

Captured a man, and killed his sons for WMD that they didn't even have. For an involvement in 9/11 they weren't even a part of. And simply because, as I stated before, Bush Sr couldn't finish the job, so sonny boy had to step in. In the time we've been over there, we've lost more American troops, and innocent Iraqi's that Saddam would have killed over the next 20 years.

*JR*
Oct 10th, 2004, 11:03 PM
Does giving Millard Fillmore a legitimate rival for worst President in US history count?

decemberlove
Oct 10th, 2004, 11:20 PM
No child left behind-Or atleast the theory of it
Captured 75% of AlQueda Members
Tax Breaks that fueled the economy
Helped Unify the Country After 9/11
Captured Saddam Hussein

Thats just off the top of my head
1. theories don't count. it's the application and the end result. we need to get to the core of the problem. parents are too busy to teach their child/ren, as a result, they don't know their child/ren very well. when the child starts to have "problems" in school, parents are often very quick to follow the advice of a psychiatrist and drug their children... leading to future problems. but since pharmaceutical companies run this gov't, we won't see much of a change in this pattern anytime soon.

2. yeah, congrats on catching some members. too bad we couldn't get the wealthiest, most important one.

3. :lol:

4. this is prolly your weakest point of all, and rather low, too. don't give bush credit for something the people did on their own.

5. i'll give you that, even if it was unnecessary and irrelevant to the situation. there are worse people out there.

jenny161185
Oct 10th, 2004, 11:28 PM
captured Suddame

Shane54
Oct 10th, 2004, 11:40 PM
Nothing, He is pure evil personified. Why he must have lied about Saddams weapons. In fact 1 million plus Kurds did not die at the hands of Saddams Chemical weapons. They were just doctored internet photos.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I just can't believe people thought Saddam was so evil. A few meat grinders, torture rape chambers, and chemical baths-all just a little fun. The real evil is Bush for trying to "free" Iraqi women from all that fun.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Now women will probably have the right to vote and educate themselves F$%^ You Bush!

Volcana
Oct 10th, 2004, 11:56 PM
* It's hard to argue that overthrowing the Taliban was a bad thing, even though he didn't particularly want to do it. They were just in the way.

*He did destroy most of AL Qaeda's heavy weapons and tanks. Of course, they hit the Workd Trade Center twice using first a truck bomb, and then box cutters and plastic knives.

* He actually gives more money to Historically Black Colleges.

* His FIRST tax cut, while I disagreed with it, was not necessarily bad policy. Clinton had corrected the 'borrow-and-spend' policies of Reagan and Bush I, and actuallyhad the government runing a surplus. I'd have used that to pay down the National Debt, but a tax cut at that point wasn't an awful idea.

NOTE: BTW, 'No Child Left Behind' SUCKS. The effect of that bill is that kids suffering in the worst schools should get LESS money for education. Go ask ten TEACHERS what they think of it. And the more any district tries to give extra help to special needs students, the more they suffer. Failure to make progress in reading with a Special Ed student who will NEVER read is counted against a district. And contrary to Bush's claims of giving the states more mone for education, he actually gives less. States now get 'block grants' of money, instead of targetted allocations. The TOTAL amount of money they get is LOWER than what they previously got. States have more control, but less actual money.

And as the econmoy has continued to be a disaster (I know Bish says there's a recovery, but when people are out of work twice as long, and getting jobs that pay less with fewer benefits, that not a recovery) States have given less money to localities. Schools are funded locally. Less Federal aid means less State aid. A bad economy means less local tax revenue. Result, less money for schools, but because of 'No Child Left Behind', more requirements ON schools.

jbone_0307
Oct 11th, 2004, 12:53 AM
No child left behind-Or atleast the theory of it
Captured 75% of AlQueda Members
Tax Breaks that fueled the economy
Helped Unify the Country After 9/11
Captured Saddam Hussein

Thats just off the top of my head

No Child Left Behind is a huge failure. All it did was turn new and old teachers from the teaching profession because they have to get recertified, etc. etc. There are no results to show for it in 3+ years.

NO, NO, NO, we have not captured 75% of Al Queda members. Those were the initial memebers that were captured in between Oct. 2001 through 2003, what the press hasn't mentioned is that Al Queda is continuing to grow, with a new cause(they can use the war to say that its a war against Islam to recruit new), the US just scattered them around, got them more pissed. Its like poking a dog with a stick.

Dont we get tax cuts most of the time, thats something universal within different admistrations so that wouldn't qualify. Also fuel the economy??, were in a deficit that was run up by George Bush, so far, still in the negative.

I guess he unified the country, but what country wouldn't unify after a nation tragedy :confused:



Shane, I dont think went we into the War in Iraq with just the intent to free the Iraqi woman and allow people to vote. Those were some of the add ons that came with the war. If that were the case then US troops would be in Sudan at this moment.

esquímaux
Oct 11th, 2004, 01:14 AM
1. theories don't count. it's the application and the end result. we need to get to the core of the problem. parents are too busy to teach their child/ren, as a result, they don't know their child/ren very well. when the child starts to have "problems" in school, parents are often very quick to follow the advice of a psychiatrist and drug their children... leading to future problems. but since pharmaceutical companies run this gov't, we won't see much of a change in this pattern anytime soon.

Interesting.

4. ...don't give bush credit for something the people did on their own.:lol:

CJ07
Oct 11th, 2004, 01:19 AM
Hmm..Jason :drool: :lick:
I came last night, but you where no where to be found? :shrug: :sad:

*JR*
Oct 11th, 2004, 01:35 AM
NO, NO, NO, we have not captured 75% of Al Queda members. Those were the initial memebers that were captured in between Oct. 2001 through 2003, what the press hasn't mentioned is that Al Queda is continuing to grow, with a new cause(they can use the war to say that its a war against Islam to recruit new), the US just scattered them around, got them more pissed. Its like poking a dog with a stick.While he and Cheney said 75% of its leaders (not members) have been "brought to justice" your point is well taken. Obviously, new leaders will arise from among the new members (or may already lead groups hooking up with al-Qaeda).

esquímaux
Oct 11th, 2004, 01:40 AM
Hmm..Jason :drool: :lick:
I came last night, but you where no where to be found? :shrug: :sad:
Sorry bout that bud :D I was abducted by aliens and didn't get back til this mornin' :bigwave:

jbone_0307
Oct 11th, 2004, 02:10 AM
And also what are they going to do with all of these detainees???? Give them the right to a speedy trial and release them back in Afghanistan, which is beyond stupid to me. God know what they will do when they get back. Kerry needs to bring up these points and come up with a plan :haha: and attack Bush on it.

Philbo
Oct 11th, 2004, 06:04 AM
I hardly think America is a united country after 9/11. Yes maybe for the few months following it, but american society is split and polarised nowadays like it hasnt been in quite some time (vietnam??)...

Circe
Oct 11th, 2004, 06:21 AM
bush overuses - and misuses - the word "God" using it as a prop to get votes. it should count as electoral malpractice.

the nation was united for a long time. he managed to destroy that feeling of unity with very little effort in very little time.

the tax-cuts might be a good idea in theory, certainly my father doesnt mind them, but their impact might take some time to be realized. i'd reserve judgement on that.

and while the action against al-qaeda in afghanistan was useful, i'm afraid the consequences of the war in iraq will undo all the good done there by pushing more and more new recruits into the fanatical fold.