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Helas
Sep 26th, 2004, 07:14 PM
http://www.imdb.com/chart/top

RankRatingTitleVotes1.9.0Godfather, The (1972) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/)103,2002.8.9Shawshank Redemption, The (1994) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/)127,2813.8.9Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/)75,4644.8.8Godfather: Part II, The (1974) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071562/)60,9405.8.8Shichinin no samurai (1954) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/)26,3846.8.8Schindler's List (1993) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/)85,6587.8.7Casablanca (1942) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/)58,0908.8.7Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The (2002) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167261/)94,5809.8.7Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The (2001) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/)136,67010.8.7Star Wars (1977) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/)119,04711.8.7Citizen Kane (1941) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033467/)53,86912.8.7One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/)61,23813.8.6Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/)91,55914.8.6Rear Window (1954) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047396/)35,83215.8.6Pulp Fiction (1994) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/)113,24216.8.6Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/)55,18617.8.6Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/)83,00518.8.6Usual Suspects, The (1995) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114814/)91,41519.8.6Memento (2000) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/)77,22520.8.6Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060196/)23,91421.8.612 Angry Men (1957) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050083/)24,94522.8.5North by Northwest (1959) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053125/)31,40823.8.5Cidade de Deus (2002) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/)17,26424.8.5Lawrence of Arabia (1962) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056172/)27,51225.8.5Psycho (1960) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054215/)47,83426.8.5Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/)49,26327.8.5It's a Wonderful Life (1946) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038650/)36,53028.8.5Silence of the Lambs, The (1991) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/)81,53529.8.5Goodfellas (1990) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099685/)58,40830.8.4C'era una volta il West (1968) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064116/)13,56331.8.4American Beauty (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169547/)96,70832.8.4Sunset Blvd. (1950) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043014/)13,84333.8.4Vertigo (1958) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052357/)29,88034.8.4Matrix, The (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/)126,35435.8.4Apocalypse Now (1979) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078788/)56,46636.8.4To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056592/)26,52637.8.4Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338013/)19,85238.8.4Pianist, The (2002) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0253474/)23,43539.8.4Fight Club (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/)94,62740.8.4Third Man, The (1949) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041959/)15,99641.8.4Paths of Glory (1957) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050825/)12,27842.8.4Taxi Driver (1976) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075314/)41,01143.8.4Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/)18,36544.8.3Some Like It Hot (1959) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053291/)22,22945.8.3Double Indemnity (1944) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036775/)10,12546.8.3Boot, Das (1981) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/)25,35447.8.3Singin' in the Rain (1952) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045152/)17,84448.8.3Chinatown (1974) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071315/)22,24849.8.3L.A. Confidential (1997) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119488/)62,22350.8.3M (1931) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022100/)10,26651.8.3All About Eve (1950) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042192/)11,51252.8.3Se7en (1995) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114369/)76,14753.8.3Maltese Falcon, The (1941) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033870/)17,24754.8.3Requiem for a Dream (2000) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/)38,78755.8.3Bridge on the River Kwai, The (1957) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050212/)19,61056.8.3Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/)52,97957.8.3Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266697/)49,31458.8.3Rashômon (1950) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042876/)9,68159.8.3Saving Private Ryan (1998) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120815/)88,39460.8.3Raging Bull (1980) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081398/)22,48761.8.2Alien (1979) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078748/)55,39962.8.2American History X (1998) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120586/)49,92963.8.2Léon (1994) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110413/)44,06664.8.2Wizard of Oz, The (1939) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/)33,85065.8.2Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031679/)10,14166.8.2Manchurian Candidate, The (1962) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056218/)12,06267.8.2Sting, The (1973) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070735/)20,85068.8.2Modern Times (1936) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027977/)8,73169.8.2Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The (1948) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040897/)9,07470.8.2Reservoir Dogs (1992) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105236/)59,19671.8.2Vita è bella, La (1997) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118799/)33,19472.8.2Clockwork Orange, A (1971) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/)56,62273.8.2Touch of Evil (1958) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052311/)10,30074.8.22001: A Space Odyssey (1968) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062622/)57,99975.8.2On the Waterfront (1954) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047296/)10,89576.8.2Ran (1985) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089881/)10,06977.8.2Amadeus (1984) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086879/)32,55278.8.2Great Escape, The (1963) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/)17,27179.8.2Finding Nemo (2003) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266543/)31,56780.8.2Apartment, The (1960) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/)9,68781.8.2Jaws (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073195/)41,29382.8.2Annie Hall (1977) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075686/)18,48383.8.2Wo hu cang long (2000) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190332/)46,32184.8.2High Noon (1952) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044706/)10,83385.8.2Aliens (1986) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090605/)56,69186.8.1Braveheart (1995) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112573/)81,55187.8.1Metropolis (1927) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017136/)10,22088.8.1Shining, The (1980) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081505/)43,56989.8.1Fargo (1996) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116282/)58,20590.8.1City Lights (1931) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021749/)6,62491.8.1Strangers on a Train (1951) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044079/)9,03592.8.1Donnie Darko (2001) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/)38,25693.8.1Blade Runner (1982) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/)66,99694.8.1Sjunde inseglet, Det (1957) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050976/)8,00895.8.1General, The (1927) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017925/)5,68196.8.1Great Dictator, The (1940) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032553/)8,69697.8.1Sixth Sense, The (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167404/)85,58498.8.1Nuovo cinema Paradiso (1989) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095765/)12,04899.8.1Duck Soup (1933) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023969/)8,616100.8.1Mononoke-hime (1997) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/)

Agree or Disagree?

decemberlove
Sep 26th, 2004, 09:11 PM
its kinda hard to read like that :)

but i've seen the list a million times.

it used to be a pretty good list a few years ago.

until all three LOTR movies were voted into the top ten, and all the older/foreign films were pushed to the bottom.

Veritas
Sep 26th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Akira Kurosawa must be proud: he has two films ('The Seven Samurai' and 'Rashomon') in the top 150. Plus, Hayao Miyazaki's done well with 'Spirited Away' and 'Princess Mononoke'.

I still have a problem with 'Memento' being placed so high. I can think of many films which deserve that no.19 position more.

Veritas
Sep 26th, 2004, 11:55 PM
For example, Amelie is a very nice simple movie, very well done, and most people who saw it enjoyed it, but does it belong in the top 30 movies of all time? I don't think so.

Good point. In reality, it is only a list of a fan's personal 'preference'. I personally would have placed nearly all of Akira Kurosawa's film over 'Amelie'. Of course, I did like that French film, but I don't believe it should be ranked anywhere near the top 30.

But movies are made for the general public. So this list is just as important as any other because it reflects what the studios' most important critics think.

Hulet
Sep 27th, 2004, 12:09 AM
Movies that I have seen and don't belong on that list on my opinion:
*Any of the Lord of the Ring movies (Yes, great cinimatography but it takes more than that to make a great movie. And, yes, I know many will disagree with that )

*Memento - again great style, but not that satisfying a movie

*Eternal sunshine - Have to rewatch this again on DVD but I am not sure it's top 250 material

*Requiem for a Dream - Umm, how the hell did it get there? :confused:

*American Beauty, Braveheart and Finding Nemo - Good movies but don't know if they belong there.

decemberlove
Sep 27th, 2004, 12:44 AM
eternal sunshine... the concept was completely different.

i think it's so high cos ANYONE who has ever been in an arduous relationship can relate. it's hard to find a movie that so many people can relate to.

its definitely one of the better romantic comedies, along with amelie, out there.

american beauty, again, cos many people could relate to a mundane life in the burbs. it influenced the business, and set the mood for other movies with it's dry wit.

requiem for a dream... i thought it was an excellent movies. one of the few to REALLY show the reality of being an addict of anything. i thought it said A LOT about our current lifestyle.

braveheart had a huge influence on hollywood. i cant see why maybe you don't agree with the other movies, but braveheart?

finding nemo, memento, LOTR... i cant give you an explanation cos i agree. althou LOTR definitely did not have great cinematography. the first was beautiful, after that it was too made for tv-ish.

decemberlove
Sep 27th, 2004, 12:47 AM
2001: a space odyssey needs to be higher than 74.

i mean, kill bill vol.1 ahead of 2001?

beauty_is_pink
Sep 27th, 2004, 12:57 AM
they're majority all oldies.
i wanna see all of them. i only kno so lil from that 250 list :o

Ted of Teds Tennis
Sep 27th, 2004, 01:31 AM
At least "Titanic" is no longer in the Top 100.

Movies on that list that should be lower, or not in the Top 100 at all, are "Annie Hall" (tedious Woody Allen neurosis), and "Dr. Strangelove" (not nearly as funny as critics would have you believe; TCM showed it last night and I was almost nauseated by Peter Sellers' antics in the title role -- although he was much better as the RAF officer). The LOTR crap ought to be a lot lower, too -- I can't understand why people are so into the movies, or the original books. And, I'm always amazed at the positive response to "Vertigo". I love Hitchcock's movies, but find Vertigo drags on and on and has an ending that doesn't work at all for me. All three of these films are also overrated on the AFI's 1999 list of the 100 greatest American movies.

As for movies that ought to be higher up, "Psycho" ought to be in the Top 5, as should "Some Like it Hot" -- one of the greatest comedies ever made. "The Apartment" should also be higher. As for movies I don't see in the Top 100 but should be, I'd nominate Alfred Hitchcock's "Notorious" (Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, and Claude Rains), which will be shown on TCM on Monday; as well as "Leave Her to Heaven" (the fabulously gorgeous Gene Tierney plays one of the nastiest villainesses you'll ever see on film, Vincent Price plays an extremely probing prosecuting attornery in one of his roles before he became known for horror films, and gorgeous photography in a color film noir).

decemberlove
Sep 27th, 2004, 02:05 AM
At least "Titanic" is no longer in the Top 100.

Movies on that list that should be lower, or not in the Top 100 at all, are "Annie Hall" (tedious Woody Allen neurosis), and "Dr. Strangelove" (not nearly as funny as critics would have you believe; TCM showed it last night and I was almost nauseated by Peter Sellers' antics in the title role -- although he was much better as the RAF officer). The LOTR crap ought to be a lot lower, too -- I can't understand why people are so into the movies, or the original books. And, I'm always amazed at the positive response to "Vertigo". I love Hitchcock's movies, but find Vertigo drags on and on and has an ending that doesn't work at all for me. All three of these films are also overrated on the AFI's 1999 list of the 100 greatest American movies.

As for movies that ought to be higher up, "Psycho" ought to be in the Top 5, as should "Some Like it Hot" -- one of the greatest comedies ever made. "The Apartment" should also be higher. As for movies I don't see in the Top 100 but should be, I'd nominate Alfred Hitchcock's "Notorious" (Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, and Claude Rains), which will be shown on TCM on Monday; as well as "Leave Her to Heaven" (the fabulously gorgeous Gene Tierney plays one of the nastiest villainesses you'll ever see on film, Vincent Price plays an extremely probing prosecuting attornery in one of his roles before he became known for horror films, and gorgeous photography in a color film noir).

hitchcock was good... but i think he's very overrated.

dr. strangelove did what other movies couldnt and still cant... made a very serious issue funny. it's a classic cos its social commentary translates well into the 21st century. i guess you really have to have an appreciation for dark humour.

Steam
Sep 27th, 2004, 02:14 AM
Shawshank Redemption?

Maybe if TNT played the movie I would be able to see it and give my opinion.

GBFH
Sep 27th, 2004, 02:17 AM
hitchcock was good... but i think he's very overrated.

dr. strangelove did what other movies couldnt and still cant... made a very serious issue funny. it's a classic cos its social commentary translates well into the 21st century. i guess you really have to have an appreciation for dark humour.
mein fuher! :lol:

just watched this again, tonight. 'there's no fighting in the war room!' :lol:

dr.strangelove is a masterpiece. peter sellers was amazing.

Steam
Sep 27th, 2004, 02:20 AM
Too many older and foreign movies on the list. The only movie pre-1977ish that should be on the list is 12 Angry Men only for the reason that it always gives me a few good punchlines everytime someone I know has jury duty.

Harju.
Sep 27th, 2004, 02:31 AM
eternal sunshine is real good. i just watched it.

rand
Sep 27th, 2004, 08:11 AM
Akira Kurosawa must be proud: he has two films ('The Seven Samurai' and 'Rashomon') in the top 150. Plus, Hayao Miyazaki's done well with 'Spirited Away' and 'Princess Mononoke'.

I still have a problem with 'Memento' being placed so high. I can think of many films which deserve that no.19 position more.
problem is, he made much better movies, I think..they chose hids "icon"movies...but I prefer dreams, or ran....

rand
Sep 27th, 2004, 08:13 AM
mein fuher! :lol:

just watched this again, tonight. 'there's no fighting in the war room!' :lol:

dr.strangelove is a masterpiece. peter sellers was amazing.
I can walk!

propi
Sep 27th, 2004, 10:54 AM
:tape: @ LOTR trilogy up there :tape: :tape:
:tape: @ the absence of any film from Luis Buñuel :tape: :tape:

duck
Sep 27th, 2004, 03:37 PM
I'm delighted to see the Shawshank Redemption so high up on the list. it's not technically flawless by any means but it had real feeling. I had a genuine glow of pleasure at the end of this film. I really wanted it to win the Oscar in its year but Forrest Gump got it instead. You know, we should really have a thread for the most overrated winners of the Best Film Oscar. When you think FG beat Shawshank and Pulp Fiction you have to wonder what was going on with the voting.

A lot of these films are ones that linger in the mind afterwards, whether its becasue people recently saw them (Finding Nemo not Toy Story or Shrek?) or because theycontained one very memorable scene Why else would the very dated A Clockwork Orange be in there?

Hulet
Sep 27th, 2004, 03:37 PM
Movies I think should be in the top 100 but are not:
*The man without a past - one of my favourite Coen brother's movie. It was much better than Fargo, atleast to me.
*Both Solaris movies - Before any other sci-fi movie, excluding Blade Runner, I would put these movies on the list. Atleast the one by Tarkovsky. Even if I watched this when I was a small kid, it still remains one of the best movie I have seen. The one by Soderburgh is not as bad - it's certainly better than Martix.
*Atanarjuat - This movie is a great epic. The only reason I could think of why it didn't make the top 250 is most probably because many people haven't seen it.
*Mulholland Drive, In America, 21 Grams are top 100 materials.
*And finally, Far from Heaven didn't even make the top 250 list. :rolleyes:

Harju.
Sep 27th, 2004, 03:44 PM
In America :worship: That is like a great indie movie EVER. ok, at least it's good.

Hulet
Sep 27th, 2004, 03:44 PM
braveheart had a huge influence on hollywood. i cant see why maybe you don't agree with the other movies, but braveheart?

It may be because I was unable to finish it on several times I tried to watch it. I can't connect with the story because of the repeated fighting and carnage, the over the top screaming, buldogening, etc. Way overdone.

Helen Lawson
Sep 27th, 2004, 03:44 PM
That list is bullshit, "I Want to Live!" "Back Street," "My Foolish Heart," and "The Conquerer" should easily be on that list.

Hulet
Sep 27th, 2004, 03:46 PM
']In America :worship: That is like a great indie movie EVER. ok, at least it's good.
I agree. I rarely watch movies twice in a theatre. Usually I wait until they come out on DVD to rewatch them if they are good. But, In America, I watched it twice within the same week in theatre. Then a few more times on DVD. Pretty touching.

harloo
Sep 27th, 2004, 04:35 PM
Shawshank Redemption is my favorite movie along with The Color Purple.

Helas
Sep 27th, 2004, 06:34 PM
I think the The Battle of Algiers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058946/) should be in the top 50.

I'm glad Raging Bull and Goodfellas are in there.

Scorsese (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/) and De Niro are always excellent together.

decemberlove
Sep 27th, 2004, 09:20 PM
I'm delighted to see the Shawshank Redemption so high up on the list. it's not technically flawless by any means but it had real feeling. I had a genuine glow of pleasure at the end of this film. I really wanted it to win the Oscar in its year but Forrest Gump got it instead. You know, we should really have a thread for the most overrated winners of the Best Film Oscar. When you think FG beat Shawshank and Pulp Fiction you have to wonder what was going on with the voting.

A lot of these films are ones that linger in the mind afterwards, whether its becasue people recently saw them (Finding Nemo not Toy Story or Shrek?) or because theycontained one very memorable scene Why else would the very dated A Clockwork Orange be in there?
how is a clockwork orange "very dated"? do you mean just the year it was made? cos there are much older movies on the list...

it still applies to today, and it looks like it was just made recently like most of kubrick's movies.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Sep 28th, 2004, 03:53 AM
That list is bullshit, "I Want to Live!" "Back Street," "My Foolish Heart," and "The Conquerer" should easily be on that list.

"I Want to Live!" is one of the most hammy movies I've ever seen. I'm stunned Susan Hayward won the Best Actress Oscar.

Courtney Love
Sep 28th, 2004, 04:00 AM
The People vs. Larry Flint should be in that list. :(

duck
Sep 28th, 2004, 09:04 AM
how is a clockwork orange "very dated"? do you mean just the year it was made? cos there are much older movies on the list...

it still applies to today, and it looks like it was just made recently like most of kubrick's movies.
Not so much in the look of the film (because as you say there are far older films there) but it seemed (to me at least) to address social issues very specific to the time it was made, particularly relating to criminal rehabilitation and its main selling point now is its depiction of on-screen violence (which is where I think it has dated badly because screen violence now is a thousand times worse). Apart from its rape scene, its shockability has been lost and apart from McDowell's performance I'm not sure what's left.
Maybe it's unfair to single it out because there are far far worse films on the list but it's one of those I have on my "nearly great" category.

Lemonskin.
Sep 28th, 2004, 10:23 AM
Can't believe Office Space isnt in there :D

Mattographer
Sep 28th, 2004, 02:01 PM
The Shawshank Redemption is my favourite movie of all time! :worship:

shap_half
Sep 28th, 2004, 07:25 PM
Chicago anyone? Jerry McGuire? Both of those movies so deserve to be on that list over "The Big Lebowski" or "Toy Story 2" or "X2". Chicago and Jerry McGuire are easily Top 150 movies of all time if just for the acting alone.

shap_half
Sep 28th, 2004, 07:26 PM
My favorite movie of all time is Hedwig and the Angry Inch - also missed out on the list. If I had my way, it would be #1.

tfannis
Sep 28th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Glad to see Fight Club so high...that movie has naver been hyped enough imo :angel:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail should be higher imo :)
I've never seen Shawshank Redemption :o
Yesterday I saw Braveheart for the first time, didn't like it.

rand
Sep 30th, 2004, 08:11 AM
Glad to see Fight Club so high...that movie has naver been hyped enough imo :angel:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail should be higher imo :)
I've never seen Shawshank Redemption :o
Yesterday I saw Braveheart for the first time, didn't like it.
I agree for everything except I've seen shawshank, and while it's very goog, it's only so the first time you watch it, so it shouldn't be that high (whereas you can watch fight club dozens of times and still discover new things....)

decemberlove
Sep 30th, 2004, 08:52 AM
Not so much in the look of the film (because as you say there are far older films there) but it seemed (to me at least) to address social issues very specific to the time it was made, particularly relating to criminal rehabilitation and its main selling point now is its depiction of on-screen violence (which is where I think it has dated badly because screen violence now is a thousand times worse). Apart from its rape scene, its shockability has been lost and apart from McDowell's performance I'm not sure what's left.
Maybe it's unfair to single it out because there are far far worse films on the list but it's one of those I have on my "nearly great" category.
well, i can see where you are coming from, thou i respectfully disagree.

the message is still the same regarding screen violence. and the criminal rehab reminds me very much of the power that psychiatrists have over america today.

yes, it's shockability has been lost to an extent, but there is still the acting, the cinematography, and the great direction left to enjoy.

it's one of the few movies i think is better than the book.

rand
Sep 30th, 2004, 09:04 AM
well, i can see where you are coming from, thou i respectfully disagree.

the message is still the same regarding screen violence. and the criminal rehab reminds me very much of the power that psychiatrists have over america today.

yes, it's shockability has been lost to an extent, but there is still the acting, the cinematography, and the great direction left to enjoy.

it's one of the few movies i think is better than the book.
also here I agree...

decemberlove
Sep 30th, 2004, 09:47 AM
I agree for everything except I've seen shawshank, and while it's very goog, it's only so the first time you watch it, so it shouldn't be that high (whereas you can watch fight club dozens of times and still discover new things....)

i've always felt shawshank was very overrated. it doesn't get better the second time around like fight club or a kubrick movie or a kurosawa movie. and if i really like a movie i will watch it over and over and over again until all the people around me want to kill me :)

and i've NEVER been a fan of tim robbins.

rand
Sep 30th, 2004, 10:04 AM
i've always felt shawshank was very overrated. it doesn't get better the second time around like fight club or a kubrick movie or a kurosawa movie. and if i really like a movie i will watch it over and over and over again until all the people around me want to kill me :)

and i've NEVER been a fan of tim robbins.
again, we agree :)