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TennisVSTennis
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:35 AM
She has the highest standing in all Russian players.....
She will probably play both singles and doubles in WTA Champ.

tennnisfannn
Sep 17th, 2004, 10:30 AM
She is having a kim sort of year and will make the YEC for both singles and doubles.

goldenlox
Sep 17th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Sveta is leading money earner on the tour so far in 2004. Right now she's third in 2004 points behind Lindsay and Amelie.
Sveta will probably have to win the YEC to be year end #1.

jcman
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:07 PM
Go Sveta!! I think she is the most talented Russian player. btw, she looks cute to me.

but, I do hope that Nastya will play some great tennis out there, she's having some bad results recently>.<

jonny84
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:09 PM
She will definitley qualify for the YEC with her progress in Bali and as she has entered almost every tournament to then she will get there. Just hope she doens't burnout.

martirogi
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:12 PM
She passed Myskina :sad: I dont think she's gonna be year end #1, hopefully other players will step up

goldenlox
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:39 PM
I don't think Sveta will finish 2004 at #1 either. Unless she wins the YEC.
But I think a top 4 seeding in Melbourne is very possible.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:55 PM
How can she be so high on the list!!! What is she have supposed to have done apart from win the US Open!! Didn't do anything in tier 1's as i remember

mishar
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:09 PM
The Tier Is have been won by Mauresmo (3) , Davenport (2), Justine (1+gold), Venus (1), Serena (1).. the first two lead the standings.. the later three have played very irregularly, and sometimes inconsistently.

Kusnetsova's year has been pretty comparable to Myskina. They both won a Tier II event, SK has reached the finals at 3 other Tier IIs.. Myskina the final of a Tier I (SD)..

goldenlox
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Sveta has been healthy the whole year. If she stays healthy, she should finish 2004 in the top 3 in both ranking and money earned on court.

faboozadoo15
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:36 PM
no, she won't end the year #1, and no she won't win the YEC. that is a round robin format, and it definitely doesn't favor her. myskina is a better indoor player anyway. she's a great player and all, but she benefitted from quite a lot of circumstances to win the us open, and that is about the only great thing she has done all year besides beating justine one week and winning eastbourne.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:38 PM
no, she won't end the year #1, and no she won't win the YEC. that is a round robin format, and it definitely doesn't favor her. myskina is a better indoor player anyway. she's a great player and all, but she benefitted from quite a lot of circumstances to win the us open, and that is about the only great thing she has done all year besides beating justine one week and winning eastbourne.
Exactly, very lucky player, didn't remember he doing much else apart from being lucky at the US Open :rolleyes:

goldenlox
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:49 PM
Sveta may or may not win the YEC. But she's won 9 matches in a row, and she has nothing to defend in 2004.
She wasn't at the YEC last year. She was losing in qualies last autumn.
Now she's the Russian #1 in 2004 points.

veryborednow
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Exactly, very lucky player, didn't remember he doing much else apart from being lucky at the US Open :rolleyes:You just haven't been paying attention.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:59 PM
You just haven't been paying attention.
Only to the main tournaments, when was the last time she did something big in a tier 1 event?

KV
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:06 PM
At the Olympics which is the level of a Tier 1. She could have def. Momo in straight sets, if she only converted one of her 14 BP's. That's not too bad in a Tier 1.

mishar
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Well she's only 19... Imo she's a better player than Myskina.. she has the ability to dominate matches with her huge serve and forehand, whereas Myskina relies more on others' mistakes. Except for a first round loss at Wimbledon, Kusnetsova has been very consistent all year long -- mostly only losing to top 20 players, whereas Myskina has had a lot of ups and downs all year long.

SK reached the QFs at Indian wells, rome and berlin and Olympics.. she has reached 5 tour finals this year, winning 2 of them.. Myskina has only reached 3, winning 2

I don't know if she'll end the year ahead of Myskina, but she seems to be just getting going, whereas Myskina is in a bit of a slump.

mishar
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Also she was the only player to beat Justine before Justine got sick.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Doens't sound like someone who may become number 1 soon, her performance in the tier 1's is not much better than Sharapova's :rolleyes:

KV
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Doens't sound like someone who may become number 1 soon, her performance in the tier 1's is not much better than Sharapova's :rolleyes:
She's only 19 y.o. has enough time left. And yes she deserves the top 5.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:15 PM
She's only 19 y.o. has enough time left. And yes she deserves the top 5.
Very average results for a top 5 player, and i know she'll do well in the future, but now she doesn't deserve to be there

veryborednow
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Only to the main tournaments, when was the last time she did something big in a tier 1 event?QFs - all the time.

She deserves to be there because she takes her chances. Especially this year.

Who deserves to be top 5 this year in your opinion?

fammmmedspin
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Very average results for a top 5 player, and i know she'll do well in the future, but now she doesn't deserve to be there

Well as no one else deserves to be there in the top 5 and the only two people in front of her in the race can't even reach the final of a GS between them, it would be a pretty empty top 5 otherwise wouldn't it. Who would you replace her with - cardboard cutouts of players who used to win something?

Knizzle
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Kuzzie had been in 3 finals before she finally won in Eastbourne, she was on the rise anyway though the US Open win was a surprise.

F Dubai (lost to Justine)
F Doha (lost to Myskina)
F Warsaw (lost to V. Williams)
WON Eastbourne
WON US Open

5 finals already and could be 6 in Bali. That's a mid top ten player to me.

mishar
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Who does deserve to be in the top 5 if not her? Capriati? LOL! Oh that's a rich one.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:41 PM
Who does deserve to be in the top 5 if not her? Capriati? LOL! Oh that's a rich one.
No

Elena D, Davenport, Mauresmo(even though she's the biggest choker ever), Justine and Myskina. There you go. But then again i guess that is the top 5 anyway!

And Knizzle those finals are pretty poor ones, where are the tier 1's :confused: I think Warsaw is a tier 1, but pretty poor field.

veryborednow
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:44 PM
2 of those don't have Grand Slams.
1 hasn't won one since 1998.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:47 PM
2 of those don't have Grand Slams.
1 hasn't won one since 1998.
i know, as i said i know mauresmo is a choker, but she's still had better results throughout the year than kutzensova

mishar
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:48 PM
So you think a GS finalist should be ranked above a GS winner? :confused:

What was Dementieva's great success in Tier Is? She reached the final of Miami, but then lost in the first or second round of Rome, Berlin, Montreal, the Olympics, Tokyo and Charleston..

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:50 PM
So you think a GS finalist should be ranked above a GS winner? :confused:

What was Dementieva's great success in Tier Is? She reached the final of Miami, but then lost in the first or second round of Rome, Berlin, Montreal, the Olympics, Tokyo and Charleston..
2 GS finals plus a final in the biggest tournament outside a slam. but i realise she is questionable, but no more so than kutzensova who hasn't done alot else either

veryborednow
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:57 PM
So if Dementieva and Kuzzie are of equal "questionability", but only Kuzzie doesn't deserve to be in the top 5.

I'm not understanding your logic.

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:08 PM
So if Dementieva and Kuzzie are of equal "questionability", but only Kuzzie doesn't deserve to be in the top 5.

I'm not understanding your logic.
Ok what i'm trying to say is that a player who has ranked 5 should have done more than what she has. But then again this has been a strange year when no-one has really done much so i take it as an exception.

veryborednow
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Agreed :)

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:21 PM
Agreed :)
;)

Dawn Marie
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:40 PM
Sveta is a top 5 player people just don't watch her game or watch how she has been steadily winning and losing her matches.

Hant Hant
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:53 PM
Svetlana could be top 4, but could be #1 by the end of this year. She can do it, but it will be hard. Like in the YEC, she probably have to defeat everyone. and Hant deserves to be in the top 22

Crazy Canuck
Sep 17th, 2004, 10:32 PM
Me thinks that *somebody* doesn't quite understand how the rankings work :p

Daniel
Sep 18th, 2004, 12:29 AM
Sveta can be top 5 but cant be #1 this year.

saab95
Sep 18th, 2004, 01:01 AM
Top 4 is she deserves this year.
She was great in april-may but didn't use her MPs vs Nastya.

Now she's "in the mood" again.
Good luck!

Daniel
Sep 18th, 2004, 02:04 AM
nice the way u said she is in the mood again.

Iy is nice to see her doing well. I wish her the best > Go Sveta :worship:

fammmmedspin
Sep 18th, 2004, 03:22 AM
Ok what i'm trying to say is that a player who has ranked 5 should have done more than what she has. But then again this has been a strange year when no-one has really done much so i take it as an exception.
Yes but thats because the players ranked 1-4 would have done more too in "normal" years. This year the wins are spread around as are the bad losses.

Even if you forget what the points tell you, as Sveta has the GS and a tournament and finals and wins over Elena, justine and Lindsay she is pretty comparable to Nastya and with Momo and Lindsay it depends how you regard a GS win v normal tournaments. Sveta probably has it on Elena D who is the other person going for 5th and Nastya's ability to beat Sveta probably just keeps her ahead though Nastya has to keep it up for the rest of the year.

goldenlox
Sep 18th, 2004, 04:22 PM
Sveta has almost nothing to defend until Dubai and Doha next spring.
She has a great chance to leave Melbourne as world #1.