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tennnisfannn
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:58 AM
What was injured more, her pride or her confidence? Sounds alittle excessive to me, she has been playing long enough and has masterminded her own comebacks against other quality players. At the USO, she said she was still thinking about Athens yet she had beaten her first round opponent quite handily.
Serena came back against a red hot kim at AO 2003 from 5/1 down. It happens and could happen to anyone. She just blew a lead over not just any player but the word no.1 and top seed who until was injured was dominating the field.
This is what I am beginning to believe, it is probably not her confidence that has been hurt but her pride, she is probably reading the articles claiming she was lucky to win the FO. How then do you explain her losing to Amy frazier at wimbledon, this was before athens.
Thoughts anyone?

martirogi
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:08 AM
She lost to Frazier cuz she was tired from the post FO publicity stuff. Some players have a more difficult time with a tough loss. Hingis was 5-1 in GS finals before 99 FO and after she was 0-5. So yes difficult losses have a huge impact on a player's confidence and pride. Let's just hope she can get over at her own pace.

faboozadoo15
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:11 AM
i think she'll bounce back soon; it IS a hit to her confidence that she was unable to do well at the olympics especially with all the talk of a russian sweep and such.
another answer to your question about the loss to frazier-- she may have been emotionally drained from winning the french coming from nowhere. plus, amy is a damn good player on fast surfaces, and she was just a little too good. hell, she gave maria a GREAT match, and maria was playing well enough to win the championship. a little bad luck i guess.
about the us open. her first opponent sucked miserably. i had the displeasure of watching that match, and the girl absolutely beat herself, and then she ran into someone playing well, and she didn't have a lot of confidence.

russophile
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:06 AM
does anybody know EKATERINA GAMOVA? she's a russian volleyball player. she LOOKS just LIKE anastacia. she cried the most when they lost to CHINA in the Olympics Gold Medal Match '04... like myskina

Circe
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:20 AM
i think a bit of both. i expected much more than a second round at the USO.
i hope she gets out of it sooner than later. i'm tired of ALL my favorite players slumping.

xr6turbo
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:30 AM
does anybody know EKATERINA GAMOVA? she's a russian volleyball player. she LOOKS just LIKE anastacia. she cried the most when they lost to CHINA in the Olympics Gold Medal Match '04... like myskina

Have you seen the russian volleyball coach? :eek: He is scary. He screams his head off at those poor girls, usually making them cry...

shap_half
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:33 AM
I think losses like that are just tough to get through especially when it means so much. The same thing happened to Jen last year after she lost to Justine in the USO. When you want something soo bad and it was that close and you still lose, you can't help but think about it and it often leads to unsettling moments.

russophile
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Have you seen the russian volleyball coach? :eek: He is scary. He screams his head off at those poor girls, usually making them cry...
Nikolai karpol! hes NICE! he was a great coach! too bad his last stint as a coach didnt give the the gold!

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:01 PM
I think losses like that are just tough to get through especially when it means so much. The same thing happened to Jen last year after she lost to Justine in the USO. When you want something soo bad and it was that close and you still lose, you can't help but think about it and it often leads to unsettling moments.
Thats true, matches like that when you SHOULD have won are tough to take. I'm sure Myskina will bounce back, she is a world class player, and i really like her.

Experimentee
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:17 PM
I dont think it really affected her as much as everyone would like to think. Shes blown leads before and been perfectly fine, like when she was 5-0 up against Justine at the YEC and lost. I think its just people trying to think of excuses for her bad losses. Maybe she was just in bad form and her opponent was better?!

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Dont you know how much the Olympics mean to her :rolleyes:
thats why.
its not another ordinary tourn or even a slam where you can play 4 times a yr
thats why she was upset, its still hurting.

In 4 yrs time she might not get the chance to play in the Olympics
a week in tennis is a long time, never mind 4 yrs

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:26 PM
I dont think it really affected her as much as everyone would like to think. Shes blown leads before and been perfectly fine, like when she was 5-0 up against Justine at the YEC and lost. I think its just people trying to think of excuses for her bad losses. Maybe she was just in bad form and her opponent was better?!
It affected her alot, she even admitted it at the US Open. You could see her crying at the Olympics as well, she may not get another chance again. And i think its perfectly justifiable that people are seeing whats up with her, since she is no 2 in the world and should not be losing to players of such poor quality.

Allez-H
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:33 PM
She really seems to be so upset after that loss against Justine and I wouldn't really mind her...Anywayz,I never really liked Myskina before,I actually liked pretty much all the Russians except Nastya but since the olympics she has really strucked me with her honesty and respect towards other players,fans,....I can proudly say that I've become a new fan of hers and that I really hope she can bounce as soon as possible :yeah:

skanky~skanketta
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:43 PM
maybe she was really upset cuz she's had a 5-0 lead against justine before and still lost. i mean, i know how she feels cuz i've been losing to this girl i KNOW i can beat (i've had matchpoints in at least 2 matches) (and setpoints in others).....

Caz
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Dont you know how much the Olympics mean to her :rolleyes:
thats why.
its not another ordinary tourn or even a slam where you can play 4 times a yr
thats why she was upset, its still hurting.

In 4 yrs time she might not get the chance to play in the Olympics
a week in tennis is a long time, never mind 4 yrs
Yeah, I agree. The Olympics are something very special that you don't get many chances in. Who knows if that was her only chance at an Olympic medal? It depends on where is is in 4 years time. I'm sure that's why it takes a long time to get over.

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:50 PM
the Year end Championships is nothing compared to Olympics.
sure it gives you points, but what are points when they fall off the next year ???

Nastya would have treasured the Olympic medal (even a bronze) HIGHER than her Roland Garros victory.

Allez-H
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:56 PM
the Year end Championships is nothing compared to Olympics.
sure it gives you points, but what are points when they fall off the next year ???

Nastya would have treasured the Olympic medal (even a bronze) HIGHER than her Roland Garros victory.
A bit like Justine than,she never thought that she would aim that medal so high but I even think that she sees it as big as her RG-victory and we all know how much that meant for her...

fammmmedspin
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Its The Olympics - Russians value the olympics. It was her objective for the year. Its a career objective if you don't think of your career 4 years ahead. She had it in her grasp and lost it - thats never good psychologically - big why questions. She lost it because she wanted it too much - if you want it that much you will feel it if you lose it. She also opened a lot of doors by getting ahead of Justine - if you can beat the world number 1 and the Russians and Lindsay retires the world is your oyster and number 1 beckons which was her other goal. She then shut the door soon after opening it - that would make anyone feel bad. The chance to be number 1 is also now getting more difficult so that doesn't help either.

She's not alone.Paula Radcliffe was so nervous she didn't sleep before the race and ended up in a far worse state. Khorkina blew her chance of a record third gymnastics gold by falling off the bars. Doesn't help much though.

She needs a rest and a new goal. A start might be to realise that number 2 or 3 is good,, people like to watch her and the Olympics is largely a matter of luck and a lot of deserving winners don't win - often for the same reasons.


Some of it might not be the Olympics either. She has been playing odd bad sets with low first serve percentages since the FO which might be an injury. She lost to Elena L before the olympics. It might also just be nervous tiredness. You win a GS, meet the President, have a traumatic battle with Vera. play a lot, lose to elena L , have a enormous battle at the olympics and then lose it . That would deplete anyone's emotional reserves.

martirogi
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:35 PM
myskina sucks anyone else would be over it by now :rolleyes:

Daniel
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:43 PM
She needs to take some time of, bring back her confidence levels up and get away of those mental lapses in matches. Then she becomes the amazing player who won RG 2004 :)

Vamos Nastya :worship:

mosbite
Sep 18th, 2004, 12:20 AM
does anybody know EKATERINA GAMOVA? she's a russian volleyball player. she LOOKS just LIKE anastacia. she cried the most when they lost to CHINA in the Olympics Gold Medal Match '04... like myskina

I don't think they look alike. Have you given Gamova's ears a good look (unrelated to Miskina). The gold medal match vs. Russia was one of the best things I saw during the Olympics. It was sad that Russia didn't pull it off 2 sets up.

fammmmedspin
Sep 18th, 2004, 01:59 AM
I don't think they look alike. Have you given Gamova's ears a good look (unrelated to Miskina). The gold medal match vs. Russia was one of the best things I saw during the Olympics. It was sad that Russia didn't pull it off 2 sets up.
Gamova was what 6 foot 8 tall and blonde so she was hardly Nastya's body double. Like to see anyone lob her.

fammmmedspin
Sep 18th, 2004, 02:08 AM
myskina sucks anyone else would be over it by now :rolleyes:
Like Jennifer in the nineties and in the round after beating Serena in a GS since 2001? Momo since her first GS letdown? Venus in GS finals since Serena beat her up the first time? Venus since her first bad loss this comeback? Hingis after Capriati took her AO title twice? Lindsay in tight GS matches? Kim in a GS final? Natasha after 1988. Not to mention Sabatini after her FO MJF problems.

Humans are not robots.

Nastya has only had a month.

wateva
Sep 18th, 2004, 03:20 AM
get over the sad loss! it's not worth it nastya!!

Mr_Molik
Sep 18th, 2004, 03:25 AM
how do we no its because of athens?
she made the final of a US hardcourt tourney (tier 1 i think) after the olympics
maybe shes just in a slump or feels like she can relax a bit having got a grandslam under her belt

rue
Sep 18th, 2004, 04:18 AM
I can understand that she is hurt from that loss if she is. She was so close to going to the final and yet just could not do it. She so badly wanted to get a medal so that can take an emotional toll on you and leave you no longer motivated. She will be fine, just needs time to gather her thoughts together.

Hant Hant
Sep 18th, 2004, 04:46 AM
Myskina is a very classy champion, but she is human. Even though she is disheartened right now, she will come back. The human spirit always seem to thrive.

SpikeyAidanm
Sep 18th, 2004, 04:48 AM
how do we no its because of athens?
she made the final of a US hardcourt tourney (tier 1 i think) after the olympics
maybe shes just in a slump or feels like she can relax a bit having got a grandslam under her belt
Nope, she's gone 1-3 after her loss to Henin.

Mr_Molik
Sep 18th, 2004, 04:50 AM
Nope, she's gone 1-3 after her loss to Henin.
oh yea the final was before the olympics :retard:

Josh810
Sep 18th, 2004, 04:52 AM
She will be back... I hope :sad:

Daniel
Sep 18th, 2004, 05:07 AM
next tournament is filderstad, i am sure she will bounce back stronger there :D