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udachi Elena
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:17 AM
I think she got lucky at the FO where Lena's nerves got the best of her? Of course FO winners usually are fairly random. Anyone think she has another slam in her? Personally, i think she's had her moment.

Hant Hant
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:19 AM
myskina is good on hardcourts and clay. she could probably win an US Open and then another French Open

udachi Elena
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:20 AM
Good on hardcourts? No title this summer, second round exit at USO and what a second round exit this week?

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:23 AM
Hard to say, she's 23 and still has a few years ahead of her, but we know for sure she won't ever win wimbledon. The other 3 are still possiblities, mainly French Open though.

ZAK
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:24 AM
Good on hardcourts? No title this summer, second round exit at USO and what a second round exit this week?
She didn't have an exactly incredible record on clay until this year's French Open either

cartmancop
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:24 AM
I think that Myskina is a one-hit wonder too. She's a good player but I think there are numerous players who are better right now & more coming up who are going to surpass her. Don't get me wrong, she deserved the FO, several players didn't play to their potential & she took advantage but I'm beginning to wonder is she can handle the expectations b/c this summer has been pretty disappointing.

faboozadoo15
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:26 AM
She didn't have an exactly incredible record on clay until this year's French Open either
actually pretty aweful. her best reults by far had come indoors.
anyway, she will win any slam where the quality of play is as low as it was at the french. she can't beat girls who hit harder when they're keeping the ball in the court, or she can't beat 2 or 3 in a row when the pressure is on. either way, it's a longshot for her to pick up another slam.

Hant Hant
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:26 AM
Good on hardcourts? No title this summer, second round exit at USO and what a second round exit this week?

context is everything. You are looking at her results after her mental breakdown from the olympics. if you look at her results prior to the olympics (Finals at Acura Classics, a Tier 1 hardcourt and semifinals of the Montreal Open, another Tier 1 hardcourt the following week), then these results certainly justify that Myskina is good on hardcourts.

Hant Hant
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:31 AM
actually pretty aweful. her best reults by far had come indoors.
anyway, she will win any slam where the quality of play is as low as it was at the french. she can't beat girls who hit harder when they're keeping the ball in the court, or she can't beat 2 or 3 in a row when the pressure is on. either way, it's a longshot for her to pick up another slam.


Um French Open, Myskina defeated several quality opponents such as:

1st round Alicia Molik
4th round Svetlana Kuznetsova
Quarterfinals Venus Williams
Semifinals Jennifer Capriati
Finals Elena Dementieva (given that was not dementieva's best performance, but she is still a quality player)

Chrissie-fan
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:32 AM
Well,she had to beat six other players to get a chance to be in that final where "Lena's nerves got the best of her." Winning a Slam is ALWAYS a great achievement,no matter what the circumstances are. I'm not sure if she will win more of them,but it's not impossible. It's not as though she hasn't had any significant results before or since the French.

Gaston

I think she got lucky at the FO where Lena's nerves got the best of her? Of course FO winners usually are fairly random. Anyone think she has another slam in her? Personally, i think she's had her moment.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:34 AM
Well she lost her last 2 matches to REALLY lowly ranked players. I guess this is because of the olympics. We'll just have to see how she bounces back from that disapointment.

tennnisfannn
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:39 AM
Myskina has always been the second tier top player and by this years AO she had never been past the QF of a slam. But she did something jen , lindsay and amelie weren't able to do, take advantage fo the slumping williams and non-presences of the belgians, she grabbed a slam.
She has the goods to remain competitive with the best. She is probably having a post slam let down like maria is but she will rebound, and she will be fine.

martirogi
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:11 AM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

udachi Elena
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:13 AM
well unfortunately mental status plays into the game.. Look at clijsters.
"Well,she had to beat six other players to get a chance to be in that final where "Lena's nerves got the best of her." Winning a Slam is ALWAYS a great achievement,no matter what the circumstances are. I'm not sure if she will win more of them,but it's not impossible. It's not as though she hasn't had any significant results before or since the French."
I didn't say that she didn't deserve it, I just don't think she can pull it off again.

tennischick
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:19 AM
too soon to tell. next question? ;)

Albireo
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:21 AM
First-time Slam winners often have a mediocre year after their initial victory. Things are very different after breaking through at a Slam, even for an "older" player such as Myskina. It's quite common for these players to lose to unknown players, even in Slams, after their initial breakthroughs. (Does the name "Linda Ferrando" ring a bell?) Give Myskina, Sharapova, and Kuznetsova a year or so before calling them "flukes."

Lemonskin.
Sep 17th, 2004, 03:05 AM
I don't think she'll win another GS. Tier I's, yeah, but not a GS.

Julia_08
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:15 AM
Myskina need to calm down and rest a little bit
And we ,fans of her, dont want to hear some stupid things about her... so

Mattographer
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:34 AM
She still haunted by losing the bronze medal match against Alicia Molik, I think.

russophile
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:34 AM
i don't think she is a one-hit wonder. her style is more of counter-attacker which works for her. she'll win some more.

Circe
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:29 AM
Myskina need to calm down and rest a little bit
And we ,fans of her, dont want to hear some stupid things about her... so
yes, i totally agree. she'll come around.

Emptiness
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:57 AM
She just needs to get back her confidence. I agree with Albireo its too soon to be calling these players a "fluke". Give them a little time and they'll bounce back. :)

matthias
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:44 AM
who cares
better a one hit wonder then nothing.

Jakeev
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:03 AM
Got news for you folks, Myskina has always been a streaky player. Just this time she managed to win a big one, the French Open, which make people seem to think she is some hot tennis player.

Her fans probably hate to hear this but facts are facts: Myskina has been a little bit lucky in the past two years to get where she is at.

But I also think Myskina is a talented tennis player. Like somebody said she is only 23 and I think she can become a higher quality player than she really is.

Jeff
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:29 AM
Luck only gets you so far, and Myskina's career is definetly not based on luck. It should, however, be understood that players have let downs. Myskina had high expectations for the Olympics, and she is still likely recovering from that loss to Justine. She is definetly a streaky player, but based on interest/enthusiasm to win, and not based on ability or talent. When she wants to play well again and win again, and recovers from the Olympics, then she will be winning again for sure.

Jakeev
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:54 AM
Luck only gets you so far, and Myskina's career is definetly not based on luck. It should, however, be understood that players have let downs. Myskina had high expectations for the Olympics, and she is still likely recovering from that loss to Justine. She is definetly a streaky player, but based on interest/enthusiasm to win, and not based on ability or talent. When she wants to play well again and win again, and recovers from the Olympics, then she will be winning again for sure.
No her career is not based on luck, but you have to admit some key factors that allowed Myskina to become a top-five player.

Probably the best she has ever played was in the fall of 2003 after she made it to the quarters of the U.S. Open. She won two tournaments back to back and was a finalist in Philadelphia.

She even beat Justine and Kim back to back in Leipzig, the first 2003 Fall tournament she won.

But she also benefited from the Williams sisters and Lindsay out because of injuries and Capriati and Mauresmo being out for a good part of the Fall because of injuries as well.

So while she took full advantage of the situation, you have to admit all those players not being a factor in the Fall of 2003, definitely helped Myskina.

bandabou
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:06 AM
Almost forgot she´s the same age as Serena...:eek: No, then I think the chances for her being a one-slam wonder are pretty big. But we´ll see...

mandy7
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:06 AM
Is Myskina a one hit wonder?


No

jonny84
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:15 AM
I don't think she is a one-hit wonder at all -

to get her French Open title she had to beat Venus and Capriati to do it; she had to beat Kim (though by retirement) and Justine in Leizpig and Mauresmo to win the Kremlin Cup.

She is a fighter - and probably suffers from nerves to much as seen by her loss at Athens to Henin-Hardenne.

Andy.
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:05 AM
I think winning a Slam is a great achievement even if you only ever win 1. Most players will never win a title let alone a slam so i would not consider it to be bad

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:06 AM
Can the woman get a chance to defend her title first, before we ask such questions? :confused:

boggs570
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Let's not fool ourselves we all know she will not defend her title.

Doraemon
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:24 AM
I dunno if she is a one hit wonder. She won the French Open fair and square and that victory is well-deserved. Her loss at the Open really hurts but then everyone has off days now and then. She seems more of an up and down player than ppl make her out to be. Her game seems quite consistent but her mental state is always a suspect. Not that I'm saying she's mentally fragile but it's more like her form changes so often and quickly. She acutally has one good tournament without any sign of getting in a groove and then holds back again. Her results this year are quite wierd. So many early round losses despite heaps of wins over big names.

JonBcn
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:31 AM
Of course FO winners usually are fairly random.
Eh? Apart from Majoli in 1997, there hasn't been a French open winner since the seventies that hasn't won at least one other Slam (and all of them except Pierce have won at least two).

Spunky83
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:38 AM
Um...no! Just like Hant said, she had great hardcourt results this year: Tier I´s hardcourts: Indian Wells, San Francisco, montreal and Olympics...she always reached at least the SF. Oh and there was her title in Doha, where she beat the current USO winner who defeated Justine in the semis...

Can she NOW win a slam? No, she´s totally wasted right now, but she has the game and the abilty to win another if she´s mentally recovered.

Let´s just wait and see!

Jakeev
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Eh? Apart from Majoli in 1997, there hasn't been a French open winner since the seventies that hasn't won at least one other Slam (and all of them except Pierce have won at least two).
Yes from 1979-2003, every player who has won the French, except of course for Majoli, has won another Slam.

But did you mean every other player besides Pierce has won more than two? If that is what you meant u are correct.

Emptiness
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:22 PM
Myskina's theme song should be Aretha Franklin's "Respect" :speakles:

JonBcn
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Yes from 1979-2003, every player who has won the French, except of course for Majoli, has won another Slam.

But did you mean every other player besides Pierce has won more than two? If that is what you meant u are correct.
Yes, thats what I meant :)

Greenout
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:11 PM
No. It's one slam more than what the majority will never have in
their tennis careers.

Vass22
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:25 PM
A bit of luck and she'll win another GS title. I think she'll have a lot of opportunities in the next couple of years. She can deffinitely win both RG and USO...

sartrista7
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:39 PM
But she also benefited from the Williams sisters and Lindsay out because of injuries and Capriati and Mauresmo being out for a good part of the Fall because of injuries as well.

The absences of Capriati and Mauresmo make no difference... for one thing, Mauresmo was not absent and in fact was the woman Nastya beat in the Moscow final (straight sets). Capriati? Ha. Capriati's time is long gone, and I think two 6-2 6-2 whippings by Nastya in 2004 show conclusively who is operating at a higher level this year. Lindsay will retire in a few months' time; whether Nastya can beat her or not is largely irrelevant to whether Nastya will win another Slam or not.

I'm certain that Nastya has the game to win another Slam if she plays close to her best, even if others play close to their best as well. I'm not so certain that this will happen any time soon - she needs a good slap for her recent scheduling and that bloody Olympic loss which is going to screw up the rest of the year for her.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:56 PM
No definately not a one slam wonder. She has beaten all the top players in the past year except Lindsay and Serena, she has proved she can play on hard courts and clay, i think her game is really well suited to rebound ace as well. I can see her winning the Aussie sometime soon, maybe even next year.

Experimentee
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:13 PM
I dont think she will win another Slam unless the draw opens up for her like it did at the French. Which is pretty likely actually, considering how many injuries are around these days.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:16 PM
I dont think she will win another Slam unless the draw opens up for her like it did at the French. Which is pretty likely actually, considering how many injuries are around these days.
The draw did not open up for her at the French!!! Kuznetsova, Venus, Capriati and Lena D is not opening up. It was a pretty tough draw.

sartrista7
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:18 PM
I dont think she will win another Slam unless the draw opens up for her like it did at the French. Which is pretty likely actually, considering how many injuries are around these days.

It didn't really open up for her though. She saved a match point against the woman who would be US Open champion in a matter of months; beat two former No 1s (and a former RG champion) in straight sets; and beat the only woman to have reached two Slam finals in 2004. It's not as if she waltzed into the semis having only faced players of Frazier and Sugiyama's calibre, for example.

Stephieva
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:20 PM
NO...:)
Ana isn't my fave but I think she's a very good player..
She is ambitious and determined..

She isn't in form in these 2 tournies..
she's gonna be back and play strong again..

Jen'sFan
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Definately not

Far more likely is for Sharapova or Kuztensova to end up as a one slam wonder, seeing as they were incredibly lucky to even win the tournament in the first place.

Chrissie-fan
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:16 PM
I agree. Winning a Grand Slam is never a fluke. Beating star-players like Kuznetsova,Venus,Capriati and Dementieva in a big event when everyone is at their most eager to do well.....How could that ever be called a fluke? I don't know if Myskina will win more Slams,but she certainly will be a serious contender. I'm not a Myskina fan,but let's give the girl some credit. She did it! She's won one! I've read a lot of posts about "unsportsmanlike conduct" and such over the last couple of days. Well,dismissing a players major achievements as mere luck,or "the opponent(s) were injured",or "player x didn't take part" is far more unsportsmanlike than disputing a few linecalls (no matter what side of the issue you're on) in my modest opinion.

Gaston

She just needs to get back her confidence. I agree with Albireo its too soon to be calling these players a "fluke". Give them a little time and they'll bounce back. :)

Chrissie-fan
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:25 PM
I respectfully disagree (seldom happens that I disagree with a fellow Cappy-fan,but there you go:). They started out with 128 players in the main draw and when it was all over one walked away with the title. If someone else was better they should have stopped Sharapova and Kuznetsova along the way,or kicked their ass in the final. Neither thing did happen,so both are worthy champions.

Gaston

Definately not

Far more likely is for Sharapova or Kuztensova to end up as a one slam wonder, seeing as they were incredibly lucky to even win the tournament in the first place.

Lachrymarum
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:35 PM
who cares
better a one hit wonder then nothing.:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: That's what I'm sayin'!!!!

vettipooh
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:36 PM
Is she a one hit wonder?? More like a one hit disappointment!!!!

*Karen*
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:46 PM
I don't like her at all. But I can say she deserved the FO. She beat everyone she was supposed to fair and sqaure. It ain't her fault Jen and Lena were dead that week. I personally don't think she'll win another slam, but I do believe she is a deserving top 5 player. At the moment, I think she just needs a break.

Daniel
Sep 17th, 2004, 11:34 PM
I think she got lucky at the FO where Lena's nerves got the best of her? Of course FO winners usually are fairly random. Anyone think she has another slam in her? Personally, i think she's had her moment.
She is the best ranked Russian, she will have more success in 2005 winning another Grand Slam :D