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LADIEZ CHAMPION
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:16 PM
Maria’s world is one that few mortals are privileged to experience, a state of nirvana where time slows down and all things seem possible. Sportsmen describe the sensation as being “in the zone”.

In all my years of involvement in tennis I have seen only two other young women who inhabited Maria’s world: Maureen Connolly and Monica Seles. Connolly won the first of her three US Championships in 1951 when she was a few days short of her 17th birthday. From that moment the young American became invincible. Connolly lost only four more tennis matches before a riding accident in 1954 ended her career. In the meantime she had added two more US titles, three at Wimbledon, two French crowns and one in Australia in 1953, the year that she completed the first female grand slam. With Connolly, the moment her head began to bob as she strode purposefully about the court, you knew that her opponent had no chance.

Seles was also 16 when she became the youngest French Open champion in 1990 with a 7-6 6-4 win over then world number one Steffi Graf. A totally focused teenager, full of sound and fury, Seles defied the laws of physics as she blasted the ball with those double-handed forehands and backhands that seemed to be guided to the lines by radar. From January 1990 Seles won eight of the next nine grand slams she entered, beaten only by Graf in the Wimbledon final of 1992. She, too, had developed an aura of invincibility, cut short by the fateful stabbing on 30 April 1993 in Hamburg. She recovered but was never the same player.

Like Seles and Connolly, on that Saturday at the All England Club, Sharapova constructed her rallies like moves on a chessboard. A succession of drives would open up the gap and then bang, checkmate, as the ball was fired into the gap for another winner. “I knew that the power was within me and that I could, if I put my mind to something, I would do it. That’s what I thought about the whole match,” she said afterwards.

Whether Sharapova will be able to maintain the power in future grand slams remains to be seen. With a determination to improve, she is likely to add the missing pieces to her game - volleys, drop shots, a sliced backhand and perhaps greater court speed. “I still have to get stronger, I still have to develop a lot physically,” she admitted.

If Sharapova does continue her present meteoric rate of improvement we could be entering a new golden age in women’s tennis with her, the Williams sisters, the Belgians and of course the Russians. :angel:

Calimero377
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Maria’s world is one that few mortals are privileged to experience, a state of nirvana where time slows down and all things seem possible. Sportsmen describe the sensation as being “in the zone”.

In all my years of involvement in tennis I have seen only two other young women who inhabited Maria’s world: Maureen Connolly and Monica Seles. Connolly won the first of her three US Championships in 1951 when she was a few days short of her 17th birthday. ....

"Maria's world" - is that what you call your parallel universe nowadays, grandpa?



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Seles was also 16 when she became the youngest French Open champion in 1990 with a 7-6 6-4 win over then world number one Steffi Graf. A totally focused teenager, full of sound and fury, Seles defied the laws of physics as she blasted the ball with those double-handed forehands and backhands that seemed to be guided to the lines by radar. From January 1990 Seles won eight of the next nine grand slams she entered, beaten only by Graf in the Wimbledon final of 1992. ....

Oops, has tennis history to be rewritten?
What about Garrison and Ferrando beating Seles at Wimbledon and USO 1990?
Well, well, the Selesians parallel universe!
It's where Shrapnelova will win at least 3 more slams ......

:lol:

LADIEZ CHAMPION
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:38 PM
"Maria's world" - is that what you call your parallel universe nowadays, grandpa?





Oops, has tennis history to be rewritten?
What about Garrison and Ferrando beating Seles at Wimbledon and USO 1990?
Well, well, the Selesians parallel universe!
It's where Shrapnelova will win at least 3 more slams ......

:lol:

The only parallel universe nowadays is Steffi's world, grandma. :)

What about that supastar Lori McNeil and Sanchez Vicario at the 1994 Wimby and 1991 Frenchie. ouch that hurts. how sad :angel:

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:45 PM
Sharapova is just an awesome tennis player, just like Seles but her career will last a lot longer.

Calimero377
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:23 PM
The only parallel universe nowadays is Steffi's world, grandma. :)

What about that supastar Lori McNeil and Sanchez Vicario at the 1994 Wimby and 1991 Frenchie. ouch that hurts. how sad :angel:


I never said that Graf won Wim 94 or FO 91.
But that dumbo I was refering to had said that Seles only lost in ONE slam between January 1990 and The Stabbing. A deluded Selesian, you know ...

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Don´t think Maria´s ever gonna have Monica-like success. She could win two or three more slams, but that´s it.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:29 PM
Don´t think Maria´s ever gonna have Monica-like success. She could win two or three more slams, but that´s it.
At the moment, she can only play well on grass, she really needs to improve alot on other surfaces to stand a chance of winning multiple slams.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:32 PM
At the moment, she can only play well on grass, she really needs to improve alot on other surfaces to stand a chance of winning multiple slams.


Yep...and that´s why I don´t see her reach Monica-type domination. In fact, I don´t think she´s gonna improve that greatly either. Some people are just what they are..you´ll never see a patient Maria.

*Karen*
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:41 PM
It's hard to say how Maria will do in the future. She does need to improve her game on other surfaces. I think it's the same for every 17 year old tennis player. Only time will tell.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:42 PM
Don´t think Maria´s ever gonna have Monica-like success. She could win two or three more slams, but that´s it.

Even if she doesn't improve she'll win 2-3 more wimbledons at least. And what makes you think that this 17 year old will not improve anymore. You are clearly a hater.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:43 PM
It's hard to say how Maria will do in the future. She does need to improve her game on other surfaces. I think it's the same for every 17 year old tennis player. Only time will tell.

every other 17 year old are not good on any surface, Maria is already a proven grass court expert.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:43 PM
Is it me or did I see a cover from SI with the title: Maria vs Lindsay for player of the year?! Wow...what a wimbledon can do for you.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:45 PM
every other 17 year old are not good on any surface, Maria is already a proven grass court expert.

Uhum...but you forget one thing: Other russians, other russians.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Even if she doesn't improve she'll win 2-3 more wimbledons at least. And what makes you think that this 17 year old will not improve anymore. You are clearly a hater.


Realist...she has at least 5 other russians to contend with ( some who like grass just as much) and there are more coming.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Is it me or did I see a cover from SI with the title: Maria vs Lindsay for player of the year?! Wow...what a wimbledon can do for you.
lol, sad isn't it. players like myskina have done more than sharapova yet maria is up for player of the year :fiery:

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Uhum...but you forget one thing: Other russians, other russians.

name another 17 year old currently playing who is even close to maria's standard.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:48 PM
lol, sad isn't it. players like myskina have done more than sharapova yet maria is up for player of the year :fiery:

take account of Sharapova's age and also the fact that she's the best Grand Slam performer in 2004 and also a phenominal perforance at wimbledon.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:49 PM
Is it me or did I see a cover from SI with the title: Maria vs Lindsay for player of the year?! Wow...what a wimbledon can do for you.

If Maria is up against Lindsay for player of the year, then Maria should win.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:50 PM
take account of Sharapova's age and also the fact that she's the best Grand Slam performer in 2004 and also a phenominal perforance at wimbledon.
I don't think age should have anything to do with it. And Maria's win was no different to Nastya's or Svetlana's, and where are they :confused:

What about other titles, are they not included? If so why is Lindsay in the frame

lizchris
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:52 PM
Is it me or did I see a cover from SI with the title: Maria vs Lindsay for player of the year?! Wow...what a wimbledon can do for you.

I didn't see that cover.

BTW, if Justine is nominated, she will win; winning an Olympic gold medal is something that can be done only every four years; the other accomplishments can be done any year.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:53 PM
I don't think age should have anything to do with it. And Maria's win was no different to Nastya's or Svetlana's, and where are they :confused:

What about other titles, are they not included? If so why is Lindsay in the frame

Maria performed better in Grand Slams than every other player. Grand Slams are the real deal. Its harder to do so well at such a young age with no experience. We'll see who wins player of the year, whoever wins, deserves it!
Other titles are taken into account but GS performances are more valuable.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:09 PM
take account of Sharapova's age and also the fact that she's the best Grand Slam performer in 2004 and also a phenominal perforance at wimbledon.


And since then?! You can really count the wins on ONE hand.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:11 PM
lol, sad isn't it. players like myskina have done more than sharapova yet maria is up for player of the year :fiery:


I guess winning wimbledon and being blonde and having blue eyes or being considered "sexy" or "hot" is enough to be considered..

Crazy_Fool
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:13 PM
Maria performed better in Grand Slams than every other player. Grand Slams are the real deal. Its harder to do so well at such a young age with no experience. We'll see who wins player of the year, whoever wins, deserves it!
Other titles are taken into account but GS performances are more valuable.
Well i'm afraid in general thats not saying much, most players haven't done that great in slams this year. Win, QF, 4th Round, 3rd Round is hardly a stunning record, its great for a player of her age, but again you're trying to make it better than it actually is. And her general play outside the slams has been disappointing.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:17 PM
I guess winning wimbledon and being blonde and having blue eyes or being considered "sexy" or "hot" is enough to be considered..
I guess you could be right on that one :rolleyes:

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:17 PM
Well i'm afraid in general thats not saying much, most players haven't done that great in slams this year. Win, QF, 4th Round, 3rd Round is hardly a stunning record, its great for a player of her age, but again you're trying to make it better than it actually is. And her general play outside the slams has been disappointing.

Craz, we´re NOT discussing this, o.k.?! ;)

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:19 PM
Well i'm afraid in general thats not saying much, most players haven't done that great in slams this year. Win, QF, 4th Round, 3rd Round is hardly a stunning record, its great for a player of her age, but again you're trying to make it better than it actually is. And her general play outside the slams has been disappointing.

Its an absolute stunning record for a 17 year old and a good record for anybody. Also take into account the manner she won wimbledon, trashing the no1 seed and the player who won for past 2 years 6-1 6-4 is amazing.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:19 PM
Craz, we´re NOT discussing this, o.k.?! ;)
And whys that band :confused: :lol:

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Craz, we´re NOT discussing this, o.k.?! ;)

:lol: why still bitter about the wimbledon final? Ok, your fav got completely outclassed in that match but she's had a lot of success in the past. Stop being so bitter.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:33 PM
:lol: why still bitter about the wimbledon final? Ok, your fav got completely outclassed in that match but she's had a lot of success in the past. Stop being so bitter.

Not bitter....Maria won and that was it. No hard feelings.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:35 PM
And whys that band :confused: :lol:

Because there are only TWO weeks of a year that matter and those aren´t played on clay, got it?!

And there can only be one greatest ever......russian.

tennisfan22
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:37 PM
Mention the name Maria Sharapova and bandabou comes running along . Do you know that you are obsessed with that girl ?

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Yeah, bandabou seems to be obsessed with Sharapova but in the wrong way. Tries to bring her down and say bad things about her at every opportunity. Does this really make you happy, bandabou?

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Yeah, bandabou seems to be obsessed with Sharapova but in the wrong way. Tries to bring her down and say bad things about her at every opportunity. Does this really make you happy, bandabou?


I don´t consider myself obsessed and certainly not with Maria....I just reacted to the thesis of this thread. that´s all.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:51 PM
I don´t consider myself obsessed and certainly not with Maria....I just reacted to the thesis of this thread. that´s all.

you also seem to have a problem with Sharapova being nominated as player of the year. Well the best performer in Grand Slams this year and the wimbledon champion deserves to be nominated not to mention she's only 17.

lizchris
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:55 PM
you also seem to have a problem with Sharapova being nominated as player of the year. Well the best performer in Grand Slams this year and the wimbledon champion deserves to be nominated not to mention she's only 17.
But she won't win if Justine is nominated. An AO and a Gold meal beats everyone, including Maria.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:57 PM
But she won't win if Justine is nominated. An AO and a Gold meal beats everyone, including Maria.

I'm not saying Maria HAS to win, but certainly her achievement deserves recognition and a nomination.

lizchris
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:58 PM
I'm not saying Maria HAS to win, but certainly her achievement deserves recognition and a nomination.
No one is saying that, but the fact that Justine won that medal put her in a teri above all others this year.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:00 PM
No one is saying that, but the fact that Justine won that medal put her in a teri above all others this year.

Yes if Justine wins she would FULLY deserve it 100%. BUT bandabou is the one saying Maria doesn't even deserve to be nominated and her achievement was nothing.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:01 PM
you also seem to have a problem with Sharapova being nominated as player of the year. Well the best performer in Grand Slams this year and the wimbledon champion deserves to be nominated not to mention she's only 17.

Just don´t think she´s the player of the year...

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Yes if Justine wins she would FULLY deserve it 100%. BUT bandabou is the one saying Maria doesn't even deserve to be nominated and her achievement was nothing.

I do...because the title shouldn´t have even been Maria vs Lindsay for player of the year to begin with and Justine better be nominated as well.

lizchris
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:13 AM
Yes if Justine wins she would FULLY deserve it 100%. BUT bandabou is the one saying Maria doesn't even deserve to be nominated and her achievement was nothing.

Well, I dom't agree with that; she deserved to be nominated just for the fact tht she won a Slam, but she does not deserve to win; that honor should go to Justine.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:18 AM
Do you know when the nominations come out and when they pick the winner?

vettipooh
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:51 AM
Just don´t think she´s the player of the year...She isn't! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:52 AM
She isn't! :lol: :lol: :lol:

We'll have to see about that. :)

Lemonskin.
Sep 17th, 2004, 03:36 AM
She's MY player of the year ^_^

LADIEZ CHAMPION
Sep 17th, 2004, 06:26 AM
I never said that Graf won Wim 94 or FO 91.
But that dumbo I was refering to had said that Seles only lost in ONE slam between January 1990 and The Stabbing. A deluded Selesian, you know ...

ohhh the tiny Garf chihuahua is barking again. Of course, Graf barely won anything during those years. THINK! :)

:angel: