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Mattographer
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:16 PM
May you remember I shared with you guys in few months ago about one of my cats killed by dog from 3 houses down from the street. Well, it killed another one of mine last Sunday and makes me even more mad especially killed another one! I wanted this dog to killed so, my mother did ring our local council and get a ranger to investigated. They almost certainly will killed the dog off as our government says Pitbull Cross aren't allowed in Australia because they're dangerous according to the ranger said so.

Darop.
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:29 PM
huh?

*JR*
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:32 PM
1) I don't know what kind of "cross" with another breed did what, but I've known some very sweet pit bulls. It may have been how the dog was raised, not genetics.

2) Did your mother call the first time? (If so, what happened)? In any case, sorry about your loss.

DutchieGirl
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:34 PM
awwwwwwwwwwww :hug: Sorry to hear that Matt!

JR, out neighbour (well he was 2 doors up) had 2 blue heeler's and a pit bull and they were seriosuly viscious! They would bark really savagely at the gate when you just walked past the house on the footpath!

!<blocparty>!
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:40 PM
awww. :sad:

"Sluggy"
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:41 PM
That Sucks!

Vincent
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:44 PM
That dog should never appears on this earth for another day!

OUT!
Sep 16th, 2004, 02:16 PM
May you remember I shared with you guys in few months ago about one of my cats killed by dog from 3 houses down from the street. Well, it killed another one of mine last Sunday and makes me even more mad especially killed another one!.Sorry to ask the obvious - but how do you know it was this dog? In any event, that's really sad :hug: I also agree with JollyRoger's first point - sometimes these sort of dogs are trained from puppies to be the monsters they become. :sad:

thalle
Sep 16th, 2004, 02:27 PM
:sad: sorry to hear Matt:sad:

WorldWar24
Sep 16th, 2004, 02:27 PM
That dog should never appears on this earth for another day!

Are you people delusional? What if the cats entered the dog's place? My dogs have killed several cats over the years, but that's coz they tease them and cross the backyard instead of going around the house :silly:

Dogs hate cats. If cats were bigger, they would kill dogs. It's not like someone taught them to hate each other, it's in the genes. The few cats and dogs that like each other were raised together...

OUT!
Sep 16th, 2004, 02:33 PM
Are you people delusional?
Dogs hate cats. If cats were bigger, they would kill dogs. It's not like someone taught them to hate each other, it's in the genes.Well this is true as well and that person's comments were very harsh. That said, this dog has apprently killed several cats so the owners are at fault and should accept whatever punishment comes their way. Unfortunately, the punishment might result in the dog being destroyed. Yes, also I know "vicious" dogs who have been raised with cats as puppies, and although they don't necessarily like each other, there bouts have never escalated into serious injury/death.

OUT!
Sep 16th, 2004, 02:34 PM
BTW I'm not delusional, no.

WorldWar24
Sep 16th, 2004, 03:34 PM
Well this is true as well and that person's comments were very harsh. That said, this dog has apprently killed several cats so the owners are at fault and should accept whatever punishment comes their way. Unfortunately, the punishment might result in the dog being destroyed.

If the dog did not leave his house, I don't know how the owners are at fault. :)

Wigglytuff
Sep 16th, 2004, 04:00 PM
Are you people delusional? What if the cats entered the dog's place? My dogs have killed several cats over the years, but that's coz they tease them and cross the backyard instead of going around the house :silly:

Dogs hate cats. If cats were bigger, they would kill dogs. It's not like someone taught them to hate each other, it's in the genes. The few cats and dogs that like each other were raised together...

sorry not true. maine coons are a fair bit bigger than some small dogs and there has NEVER EVER been ANY instance of a maine coon killing any dog.

its not in the gene, ANY domestic animal that kills another domestic animal for anyonething other than self defensive (or in some cases hunger), then that animal is a menace and should be put down. and i do believe that the law agrees with me on this point.

*JR*
Sep 16th, 2004, 04:02 PM
awwwwwwwwwwww :hug: Sorry to hear that Matt!

JR, out neighbour (well he was 2 doors up) had 2 blue heeler's and a pit bull and they were seriosuly viscious! They would bark really savagely at the gate when you just walked past the house on the footpath!Sarah, that still doesn't address "nature vs. nurture". As OUT noted, some (pitbulls and rottweilers, for example) are "raised to kill", and some are as sweet as labrador retrievers. (Oh wait, labs are also raised as "hunting dogs" sometimes. And that British foxhunting debate wasn't about pitbulls, etc. as I recall).

Darop.
Sep 16th, 2004, 04:50 PM
You cant kill a dog just because it did something that is totally in his nature, in this case, killing a cat.

Thats what animals do.

Bacardi
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:01 PM
Sorry Rambaldi :hug: I hate that happened to another kitty :sad:

I know how you feel, my little dog was killed a few months ago by the big monster dog across the street. I hope justice gets done and that evil thing is removed. I know justice was done here, that dog got bit by a rattlesnake and died about a week and a half later. God works in mysterious ways. ;)

azza
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:02 PM
It wasnt the dogs fault :rolleyes: it was YOUR FAULT WHERE WERE YOU ARE THIS TIME? if you knew there was a pitbull why did you let ur cats out so all in all

Get fuck off :) it was your fault and getting the dog killed coz of ur STUPID error is just plain :retard:

WorldWar24
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:39 PM
It wasnt the dogs fault :rolleyes: it was YOUR FAULT WHERE WERE YOU ARE THIS TIME? if you knew there was a pitbull why did you let ur cats out so all in all

Get fuck off :) it was your fault and getting the dog killed coz of ur STUPID error is just plain :retard:

:D

WorldWar24
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:44 PM
sorry not true. maine coons are a fair bit bigger than some small dogs and there has NEVER EVER been ANY instance of a maine coon killing any dog.

its not in the gene, ANY domestic animal that kills another domestic animal for anyonething other than self defensive (or in some cases hunger), then that animal is a menace and should be put down. and i do believe that the law agrees with me on this point.

Are you serious? That should apply to humans, who can tell what's right or wrong :retard: Dogs are not evil :mad: "SELF DEFENSE" :lol:

BlackMoriah
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Dogs kill cats, cats kills rats, rats kills roaches, roaches fustrates people and causes them to move out :)

It is nature and will always happen

Wigglytuff
Sep 16th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Are you serious? That should apply to humans, who can tell what's right or wrong :retard: Dogs are not evil :mad: "SELF DEFENSE" :lol:

you dont much about animal control laws or what defines a "menace" animal.
so let me school you,


MYTH: One Bite Rule.

In there is no rule that every dog is entitled to one bite before the owner is held responsible for vicious acts by their dog. The law recognizes that every dog has the potential to bite and that owners must safeguard the public.

FACT: There is no one bite Rule.

What is a Vicious Dog?

The Law defines a vicious dog as "any animal that has attacked or bitten, attempted to attack or bite, or chased any person, animal or wildlife; but B]excludes any attack by a dog on other animals or wildlife engaged in molesting livestock[/B]."

The Animal Control Bylaw No. 92-189 defines a dangerous dog as one that "has bitten another animal or human without provocation on public or private property or has a known propensity, tendency or disposition to attack without provocation or has been found previously to be dangerous and whose owner has received notice of that fact, and the dog again aggressively bites, attacks or endangers the safety of any human or animal."

the above alone proves my point. however it may vary depending on were you live. so places are have broader or more narrow definitions. In someplace (such as that of the topic starter, pitbull mixes are illegal, in others pitbull and other dogs with ill reputations regardless mix in of bloodline are illegal, in other place owners are responsible for insurance.

but always a menace animal is one who kills for anything other than self defense.

but if you want to read the rest.

Local bylaws, provincial statutes and criminal code provisions provide several means of dealing with vicious dogs.
Vicious Dogs Can be:

MUZZLED - If a dog performs a vicious act it must be muzzled and leashed.

PUT TO DEATH - Dogs that are likely to kill or injure, or have killed or injured, can be ordered destroyed by the Provincial Court (Livestock Protection Act, Section 8).

If an owner cannot or will not control a dangerous dog, this provision is used.

KILLED IN THE ACT - Anybody finding a dog running at large and harassing people or domestic animals can kill the dog except in the case of dog fights (Livestock Protection Act, Section 6). Note however, the Livestock Protection Act does not supersede restrictions on discharging weapons. Permits for discharging weapons in restricted areas are issued by the Ministry of Environment.
Owners of Vicious Dogs can be:

1. FINED - Dogs that act viciously are deemed not to be under effective control. This is a by-law offense.
2. FINED UP TO $2,000 AND IMPRISONED FOR 5 YEARS - Assault charges could be laid if a dog is purposefully allowed to attack a person. This is a criminal offence.
Penalty ranges from fines up to $2,000 to five years imprisonment.
3. CRIMINAL CHARGES - Criminal negligence charges are possible if an owner fails to control a dog with vicious propensity.
Penalty for criminal negligence causing bodily harm is punishable by up to ten years imprisonment. If someone is killed the penalty could be life imprisonment.
4. SUED - Civil Liability. Owners of vicious dogs can be successfully sued for damages if it can be proved their dog caused an injury and if the owner cannot establish they were unaware of this propensity. They may also be found liable for negligence if they failed to control their dog.
5. NOT INSURED - It is possible that awards can surpass insurance coverage. Dog owners that have knowledge of vicious behaviour by their dogs, and do not inform their insurance companies, may find their insurance invalidated.

Owner's Responsibility

Owners of dogs must ensure their dogs do not harass persons or animals. This is the case even when the dog is on the property of the owner. Too many faultless people, such as delivery persons, are hurt by dogs which the owners proudly describe as "protective". Such dogs are in fact confused, out of control and dangerous.

If you own a dog that displays any type of aggression, keep it away from people and put up warning signs for visitors. Do not keep it where the public will have to confront it.
Victims Responsibility

Persons who have been bitten, or viciously pursued by dogs, should report each incident to the Bylaw Enforcement Division. Thus the safety of the community is enhanced and attacks on defenceless people, such as children, may be avoided.
Wildlife Protection

Deer chasing by dogs is against the law. Persons who allow a dog to chase wildlife, contrary to the regulations of the Wildlife Act, are subject to a fine of up to $1000 or imprisonment for up to six months (Wildlife Act, Section 80).

Dogs may be killed by a Conservation Officer or Peace Officer, if they are at large in a wildlife management area, or if they are running at large and harassing wildlife (Wildlife Act, Section 81).

All reported vicious acts by dogs are thoroughly investigated and documented. Whatever actions deemed necessary, to safeguard persons or animals, are taken.

Central
Sep 16th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Again the same point with the breeds... I have a rottweiler, who is suppossed to be one of the most dangerous around, and he's the sweetest thing. Come on, I think the owner of the creature ight have something to do with the behaviour of the animal if that's happened previously, IMHO.
It's obvious you can't control the animal's instinct, but if this is the second time, you might need to be a bit more cautious (I mean the owner).

griffin
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Question Searchlight:

Anybody finding a dog running at large and harassing people or domestic animals can kill the dog except in the case of dog fights

Would that apply to a dog that was contained in its own yard, and attacked something that entered that yard?

Think of it this way - if someone's pet bunny or bird got free, and my cat did what cats do, is that the cat's fault? If the dog was running lose, obviously it shouldn't be and if the owners won't take responsibility for that, then someone should take that responsibility FROM them. But if the dog is contained, if it is on its own turf, how do you blame it for protecting that turf?


Matt, however it happened, I am terribly sorry about your loss - I love my animals to pieces and I know how upset you must be.

WorldWar24
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:22 PM
you dont much about animal control laws or what defines a "menace" animal.
so let me school you,



the above alone proves my point. however it may vary depending on were you live. so places are have broader or more narrow definitions. In someplace (such as that of the topic starter, pitbull mixes are illegal, in others pitbull and other dogs with ill reputations regardless mix in of bloodline are illegal, in other place owners are responsible for insurance.

but always a menace animal is one who kills for anything other than self defense.

but if you want to read the rest.

It said in public or private property, but it didn't say in the owner's private property. If my dog bites your legg in my property, are you going to have him killed? I don't think so :dance:

Wigglytuff
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Question Searchlight:



Would that apply to a dog that was contained in its own yard, and attacked something that entered that yard?

Think of it this way - if someone's pet bunny or bird got free, and my cat did what cats do, is that the cat's fault? If the dog was running lose, obviously it shouldn't be and if the owners won't take responsibility for that, then someone should take that responsibility FROM them. But if the dog is contained, if it is on its own turf, how do you blame it for protecting that turf?


Matt, however it happened, I am terribly sorry about your loss - I love my animals to pieces and I know how upset you must be.

i dont think i does. i think that "being at large" means on someone else property or on public portey, because if its your propetry they are still contained by your fences and arent at large. at least thats how i see it but i honestly dont know what the official work would be.

Mariangelina
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:24 PM
:eek: :hug: I'm terribly sorry to hear that. My your kitty rest in peace. :angel: :cat:

That is just awful, and those owners should be ashamed of themselves for training a large and powerful animal so poorly that it kills anything that comes onto its property. It's not the dog's fault; I'm sure it thought it was protecting its territory. But an animal with that mentality is not a safe animal for city life. The owners should get their asses kicked.

WorldWar24, unless you're trying to be tongue-in-cheek, your attitude is pretty weird. Animals compete over territory and food. They don't "hate" animals of another species the way humans irrationally hate each other. And if your dogs "have killed several cats over the years" they were clearly not socialised particularly well, and it doesn't sound like you took preventative measures or even give a crap about the cats. I suspect you might feel a little differently if one of your dogs had been attacked or killed by a poorly-trained larger dog.

As I said before, this is very sad, and I'm terribly sorry for your loss. :sad: Those owners should be ashamed of themselves.

decemberlove
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:37 PM
im sorry about your loss. it's a terrible thing to lose a pet.

but it's the risk you take with having an outdoor cat.

i think destroying the dog is a ridiculous way to make yourself feel better, thou.

Rtael
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:38 PM
It said in public or private property, but it didn't say in the owner's private property. If my dog bites your legg in my property, are you going to have him killed? I don't think so :dance:
No, I'd do it myself.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:46 PM
I keep hearing sad stories :sad:

anabel
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:48 PM
dont have more cats.

buy a dog.

azza
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:15 PM
also be warned anyone even touching/hurting my dog in a bad way that will be the last thing they ever feel :fiery:

:dance:

azza
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:16 PM
No, I'd do it myself.
And then be off to Jail. :D

Mattographer
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:48 AM
i think destroying the dog is a ridiculous way to make yourself feel better, thou.
You obviously don't know what happened to that dog :rolleyes: It almost attacked a 16 years old boy rides his bicycle in the street on the same day it killed my first cat. Would you accept to let them to alive? Don't think so! They're dangerous and deserved to die for our community.

Bjorkman_Girl
Sep 17th, 2004, 03:04 AM
Arent there things called kitty runs? I'm with World War 24 on this one, for the most part. I'm really sorry about your cat, I've always been a dog person, and my dog stays in my backyard all the time. She's a kelpie/german shepherd so she's probably way to calm to kill a cat. Actually I think a cat would outsmart her ;)

If the cat wandered into the dog's territory, then its the cats problem. But as for the first cat that died, and the boy that this dog chased, that's a whole other matter. Have the owners received a warning? I imagine they are bogans for having such a dog :) Don't people know about labradors and collies!? Pleasant dogs.

Sorry if any of that sounded harsh... I am an animal lover, but I'm a dog person, and it frustrates me to tears when a person or other animal is attacked on a dogs property, and the dog is the one punished. I think it's up to owners and parents to take some responsibility of their pets/kids.

Wigglytuff
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:07 AM
It said in public or private property, but it didn't say in the owner's private property. If my dog bites your legg in my property, are you going to have him killed? I don't think so :dance:

really where did it say that ?

in fact you fool, it clearly states that the own IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONTROLING THE ANIMAL EVEN ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

Owner's Responsibility

Owners of dogs must ensure their dogs do not harass persons or animals. This is the case even when the dog is on the property of the owner. Too many faultless people, such as delivery persons, are hurt by dogs which the owners proudly describe as "protective". Such dogs are in fact confused, out of control and dangerous.


edit: not only can i have your dog destroyed but i would see to it that you were fined and put in jail for a LONG time you sick bastrad

2. FINED UP TO $2,000 AND IMPRISONED FOR 5 YEARS - Assault charges could be laid if a dog is purposefully allowed to attack a person. This is a criminal offence.

Wigglytuff
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:44 AM
i am very much an animal lover, so i feel for you 47 Rαmbαldi <0>, i think its misguided and ignorant to say that its the fault of the cat owner for harasing the dog, when not one person asked where it took place. so i am asking where id this take place?

i also find it disturbing that people want to blaming you while ignoring the fact that this dog was an illegal animal.

i dont think all dogs are bad, or even all pitbulls, i do think that their reputation tend to attract sick and disturbed people. these sick people train their animals in such a way that they become a menance and a danger to society. Not all dogs are dangerous, nor are all owners of pitbulls, sick bastards with a desire to train thier animals to kill kittens. but that doesnt mean that those who ARE this way, and those animals who ARE dangerous, should be given a free pass.

each case should be handled individually and in accordance with the law, and in this cases it is clear to me that this animal was a menace and a danger and that the owners, by keeping an illegal animal showed a disregard for the sake of the animal(s) they owned, the law and the lives of other people and other animals.

EDIT: i doubt people who are blaming you would be having that same tone if thier animals strayed into the home of someone with an illegal tiger and were killed as a result.

Tompier
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:44 AM
May you remember I shared with you guys in few months ago about one of my cats killed by dog from 3 houses down from the street. Well, it killed another one of mine last Sunday and makes me even more mad especially killed another one! I wanted this dog to killed so, my mother did ring our local council and get a ranger to investigated. They almost certainly will killed the dog off as our government says Pitbull Cross aren't allowed in Australia because they're dangerous according to the ranger said so.


Some people never learn :rolleyes:

Josh
Sep 17th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Some breeds of dogs are vicious and dangerous and people shouldn't be allowed to keep such dogs. So if this dog is one of those dangerous breeds it should be put asleep for the safety of both people and other animals.

WorldWar24
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:00 PM
really where did it say that ?

in fact you fool, it clearly states that the own IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONTROLING THE ANIMAL EVEN ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.



edit: not only can i have your dog destroyed but i would see to it that you were fined and put in jail for a LONG time you sick bastrad

Why are you mad? I didn't insult anyone :)

What that law says is, for instance, if I invite you to my place, and my dog bites your legg, my dog can be put down, but not if you're a thief :D If you're invading my property, the dogs can bite :drool:

And that law applies for people, it doesn't say anything about cats invading property. Nobody invited Rambaldi's cats to that dog's place, so it's their problem :confused:

switz
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:35 PM
if the dog was on the loose and killed a cat then it should probably be dealt with, but if the cat is stupid enough to enter its territory then it's really asking for it. i would never own "aggressive" breeds of dogs because i would want to take a risk but ultimately it's all about how they are raised. pitpulls have been known to save children lives as well.

i don't know how anyone could own a cat - i would constantly be worried something would happen to it rooming the streets and testing dogs. i have 2 golden retrievers and i don't let them out of my site when i'm walking them because i'm paranoid something might happen to them.

in summary - cats sucks, dogs rule. sorry for your loss but maybe you shouldn't let them room around if you know this is going to happen

switz
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:36 PM
when i was kid i cat came into my house, knocked over my budgies cage and killed it. premeditated murder.

fifiricci
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:38 PM
Grrr, I'll set my cat on those dogs, he's a beastie. He gets up close and eyeballs dogs (including Alsations) until they whimper and run off :devil:

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:40 PM
May you remember I shared with you guys in few months ago about one of my cats killed by dog from 3 houses down from the street. Well, it killed another one of mine last Sunday and makes me even more mad especially killed another one! I wanted this dog to killed so, my mother did ring our local council and get a ranger to investigated. They almost certainly will killed the dog off as our government says Pitbull Cross aren't allowed in Australia because they're dangerous according to the ranger said so.
Why don't you keep your cats in the house? Also, are your cats not intelligent enough not to go there? Like with my cat, we had dogs in both of our neighbours' yards and she's always very careful going there.

If not, just don't let them out. It's better than getting killed.

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:41 PM
if the dog was on the loose and killed a cat then it should probably be dealt with, but if the cat is stupid enough to enter its territory then it's really asking for it.
That's what I think too.

Wigglytuff
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Why are you mad? I didn't insult anyone :)

What that law says is, for instance, if I invite you to my place, and my dog bites your legg, my dog can be put down, but not if you're a thief :D If you're invading my property, the dogs can bite :drool:

And that law applies for people, it doesn't say anything about cats invading property. Nobody invited Rambaldi's cats to that dog's place, so it's their problem :confused:

for the forth time you've no idea what you are talking about. the law clearly states 2 things

1- the breed of the dog that killed the topic starters cat is an illegal breed in her area
2- the law clearly states as i qouted 2 times already that an animal can not be allowed to attack another person or animal.

*JR*
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:43 PM
Nobody better fuck with PP & CC's one saving grace! (2nd pics down).

http://patty-schnyder.ch/privat.htm

WorldWar24
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:16 PM
when i was kid i cat came into my house, knocked over my budgies cage and killed it. premeditated murder.

lol :spit: that was funnier than the other post that was even funnier than the first one that was incredibly funny :D

decemberlove
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:39 PM
You obviously don't know what happened to that dog :rolleyes: It almost attacked a 16 years old boy rides his bicycle in the street on the same day it killed my first cat. Would you accept to let them to alive? Don't think so! They're dangerous and deserved to die for our community.
it's different if it's a person.

is this dog loose or something? how can he "almost" attack a boy on a bike? isn't he tied up or fenced in?

decemberlove
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:46 PM
1) I don't know what kind of "cross" with another breed did what, but I've known some very sweet pit bulls. It may have been how the dog was raised, not genetics.

i completely agree, and i'm tired of seeing people use the excuse that certain breeds of dogs are dangerous.

my aunt owns a rott/pit mix and she is the sweetest thing ever.

a few of my friends own pure pits and anyone can pretty much walk in and out of the house without them doing more than licking you to death.

the cat
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:46 PM
Rambaldi, I'm very sad for your 2 cats being killed by this Pitbull Cross. :sad: I hope you get the justice you are looking for if the dog came on your property and killed the cats there. It's terrible how cats have been abused and persecuted for hundreds of years. I always here news about dogs killing cats or a dog or dogs going on a cat killing spree but I've yet to here of a cat going on a dog killing spree. :rolleyes: And dog owners of violent dogs on the average do nothing but make excuses for their dogs instead of being a good dog owner and doing the utmost to keep their dogs safe and other animals and children safe from potentially dangerous dogs.

Cats have been terribly treated for hundreds of years but now dogs such as Pitbulls and Rottweilers are being stereotyped as killing machines and shown hate from some people when it's only a small percentage of Pitbulls and Rottweilers that turn into killers. And that's sad too. I blame the dog owners more than the dogs because the dog owners are responsible for letting their dogs run loose to cause havoc and heartache. Homeowners insurance is rising for people who have certain breeds of dogs and that's not fair to the good dog owners. Some dogs have a tremendous prey drive and killing cats for example is thrilling for them. I understand that. But when someone owns a potentially dangerous dog it's their responsibilty to take care of their dog and make sure it stays on their property. I know a few people who own Pitbulls and Rottweilers and their dogs seem happy and content. I think if some dog owners treat their dogs badly they will have a problem dog. But I believe this is a small percentage of dog owners who treat their dogs badly. And that creates situations where the dogs might kill pet cats or bite children and that's where the talk of euthanising a dog comes into play. I would like to see dog owners who have violent dogs face large fines for not taking better care of their dog. And bad dog owners shouldn't be allowed to have pets anymore.

As for the cats that roam into a yard where a dog lives that's bad luck and the dog or dog owner should not get into trouble if their dog killed a cat that wandered onto the dog owners property. But any cat I've had and I've had more than 10 they have been both indoor and outdoor cats and they would not go near dogs yards in my neighborhood. Cats by instinct are fear driven and no cat I've ever had would test or tease a dog like a Pitbull.

Bad dog owners are more of a problem than the dogs. Society needs more responsible pet owners and that doesn't just mean dog owners. That means cat owners too. I'm a cat lover and I'm always asking people in my neighborhood if they've had their cats spayed and neutered. Some people don't like my questions. But I tell them I have have contacts with animal control and I tell them they have to be responsible cat owners for the cats well being. And the cats that roam and aren't fixed have offspring and that's a problem.

Rambaldi, I hope get get justice for your 2 cats that were killed by the Pitbull Cross if the dog came onto your property and killed the cats. And I hope the dog owner gets a severe fine. But it is crucial that this dog came into your yard and killed 2 of your cats on the 2 seperate occasions. If that's not the case I can't see the dog being euthanised unless he has bitten a human being.

I'm an animal lover but I prefer cats to dogs. Although I like dogs too and have had cats and dogs live happily together. I just hate to see animals abused on any level. :mad:

Josh, should we really put dogs to sleep if they are a certain breed? What if they are this certain breed and haven't harmed anything or anyone?

Nice cats JR. :cat: :cat:

Mattographer
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:48 PM
LOL! You guys are so pathetic! :o Did I say that my cat entered the other property? No, the dog went out of the property and ran on the street. It killed two cats of mine.

I don't give a fuck about which pet are better because I HAVE TWO DOGS! :rolleyes: I like them equally! Geez...

WorldWar24
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:53 PM
LOL! You guys are so pathetic! :o Did I say that my cat entered the other property? No, the dog went out of the property and ran on the street. It killed two cats of mine.

I don't give a fuck about which pet are better because I HAVE TWO DOGS! :rolleyes: I like them equally! Geez...

oh

you're right then! :) Since you didn't say the dog went out in the beginning, I just assumed he was at his place. Sorry :bowdown:

decemberlove
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:53 PM
do the owners not have him tied up properly or fenced in?

Joana
Sep 17th, 2004, 03:04 PM
As a kid I used to spend the summers at my grandma's in the countryside, and everybody had cats and dogs there, and there was never a case of dog killing a cat, nor have I heard about it since then. So this dogs' cat killing nature thing is pretty new to me. :confused:

switz
Sep 17th, 2004, 03:19 PM
LOL! You guys are so pathetic! :o Did I say that my cat entered the other property? No, the dog went out of the property and ran on the street. It killed two cats of mine.

I don't give a fuck about which pet are better because I HAVE TWO DOGS! :rolleyes: I like them equally! Geez...

maybe explaining yourself properly would help. we are to presume that there is a dangerous dog running around attacking people? i find it silly that you haven't done more than call a ranger because you could easily call the police in a situation like this. i am sorry for your loss, i really am, but you need to explain situations if you want sympathetic answers.

*JR*
Sep 17th, 2004, 04:26 PM
Nice cats JR. :cat: :cat:They're not mine, Mister and Gizmo are the Peppermint Pussy(cats). ;)

the cat
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:09 PM
Well then nice cats catty Patty. ;) It's nice that Patty is a cat lover. :) But Patty hass always been catty to Anna Kournikova. :eek: :mad:

*JR*
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Well then nice cats catty Patty. ;) It's nice that Patty is a cat lover. :) But Patty has always been catty to Anna Kournikova. :eek: :mad:PP grew up with only dogs as pets. Convicted Criminal actually introduced her to Furry Felines, about the only good thing he ever did for her. (The Career Conman better hope she wasn't screwing her Slovene Sparring partner like an alleycat @ the US Open, where he is "Banned... in the USA"). :devil:

Wigglytuff
Sep 17th, 2004, 07:45 PM
LOL! You guys are so pathetic! :o Did I say that my cat entered the other property? No, the dog went out of the property and ran on the street. It killed two cats of mine.

I don't give a fuck about which pet are better because I HAVE TWO DOGS! :rolleyes: I like them equally! Geez...

thank you! its clear that you never said how the dog got a hold of the cats in the first place, but when you said that he almost attacked a random boy then it becomes clear that it was the dog that was out and about. but sometimes you have to qoute things 4 times before people read it. :retard: :smash: :retard: :smash:

but as i said before its still sick for people to defend and illegal animal killing 2 kittens. :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: its not really about dogs versus cats, and as i said before each case should be addressed individually.

maybe explaining yourself properly would help. we are to presume that there is a dangerous dog running around attacking people? i find it silly that you haven't done more than call a ranger because you could easily call the police in a situation like this. i am sorry for your loss, i really am, but you need to explain situations if you want sympathetic answers.

no one is a mind reader, if you have questions ask them, dont just jump to unsupported conclusions.

Wigglytuff
Sep 17th, 2004, 08:03 PM
Why don't you keep your cats in the house? Also, are your cats not intelligent enough not to go there? Like with my cat, we had dogs in both of our neighbours' yards and she's always very careful going there.

If not, just don't let them out. It's better than getting killed.dont assume because you make an ass out u not an ass out of me
see below.
LOL! You guys are so pathetic! :o Did I say that my cat entered the other property? No, the dog went out of the property and ran on the street. It killed two cats of mine.

I don't give a fuck about which pet are better because I HAVE TWO DOGS! :rolleyes: I like them equally! Geez...

i completely agree, and i'm tired of seeing people use the excuse that certain breeds of dogs are dangerous.

my aunt owns a rott/pit mix and she is the sweetest thing ever.

a few of my friends own pure pits and anyone can pretty much walk in and out of the house without them doing more than licking you to death.

the dogs arent anymore dangerous than any other animal of comparable size and stregth. but thats in a vacuum. and we dont live in a vacuum. the reality is that because of thier reputations, none to few crazy and unstable people are attracted to these animals and train them to be a danger and a menace. the animal is not at fault. nor are all owners of these animals this way, but many are. and these crazys really shouldnt go unpunished because most owners of these breeds are good people.

As a kid I used to spend the summers at my grandma's in the countryside, and everybody had cats and dogs there, and there was never a case of dog killing a cat, nor have I heard about it since then. So this dogs' cat killing nature thing is pretty new to me. :confused:
because its a myth what cartoon shows play on.
tention between the animals comes for the fact that both are territorial (you see between dogs and between cats as well) but if they are raised together there are no more problems than any two animals raised together.

i want a cat, a big one like a maine coon, and a bunny or main coon and a norfolk terrier. if i raise them together there should be no problem.

decemberlove
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:53 PM
dont assume because you make an ass out u not an ass out of me
see below.


the dogs arent anymore dangerous than any other animal of comparable size and stregth. but thats in a vacuum. and we dont live in a vacuum. the reality is that because of thier reputations, none to few crazy and unstable people are attracted to these animals and train them to be a danger and a menace. the animal is not at fault. nor are all owners of these animals this way, but many are. and these crazys really shouldnt go unpunished because most owners of these breeds are good people.
the minorities in situations always fuck it up for the rest of the people... especially with liberals around.