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Bamafan717
Sep 16th, 2004, 04:54 AM
Is it neccesary to have 4 top 15 players in a Tier III? 3 of those 4 players are Russian. Chances are being taken away from younger players who need the experience in the lower tiers to eventually move up to the bigger tiers. I think "Russian Dominance" is overhyped. Sure, they've won 3 GS, but all their other titles were low tiers. They just try and get an easy win, which doesn't help in the long run :rolleyes:

Does Masha, The Wimbledon Champion, really think she is going to get better with wins Seoul against players barely in the top 50? I have the answer. No. You have to play people better than you to gain strength and experience and learn.

The only reason there are so many Russians in the top 20 is because they play close to 29 tournaments, except Masha.

I would take advice from one of the wise women in tennis. Quote:

"I think the reason all the top players are getting injured is because they are simply playing to much!" -Martina Hingis

By the way,

Just like Kim Clijsters and Justine Henin-Hardenne, the Russians will get injured badly because they play way to damn much tennis! Look at poor Kimmie :sad: They are so young that they don't know what they are getting in to :mad:

Lemonskin.
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:04 AM
If the other players are good enough, there's no reason why they can't beat the Russians.

Ekkekko
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:51 AM
I don't see anything wrong with that, do you? :scratch:

JonBcn
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:56 AM
Or perhaps it helps the players in lower tier events to get experience against quality opposition - something they need if they ever hope to progress to the upper echelons of the game.

The tour is a business, and the simple fact is that hardly anyone one goes to Tier 3 or lower events, because at the end of the day no-one wants to take a day off work to watch Stephie Foretz take on Mara Santangelo. Its the participation of top players that keeps those events afloat, and we should be thankful that some of the top Russians make the effort to support them when most players find it too much of an inconvenience to have to go to play in Asia.

Lemonskin.
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:00 AM
I think playing a Tier IV will help Maria, as she's not been in the hottset form lately. Maybe playing some lower-quality opponents will help her fine-tune her game a bit, get it all together for a run at Zurich (Tier I) and hopefully the YEC.

Dava
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:01 AM
There is a Russian mentallity to just make as much cash as you can...its all about earning yourself $$$$$

stenen
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:11 AM
There is a Russian mentallity to just make as much cash as you can...its all about earning yourself $$$$$

Don't think it's only a Russian mentality :tape: :lol:

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:23 AM
I can understand a tier III...but a tier IV, now that is really pushing the envelope. I think as a rule a top player should never play a tier III or IV if there´s a tier II or higher event the same week.

tennnisfannn
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:27 AM
There is a Russian mentallity to just make as much cash as you can...its all about earning yourself $$$$$Wouldn't it easier to scoop big like sveta did in a big event than play a bazillion small ones. It may seem like they are playing every event coz they are that many.

rhz
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:43 AM
it's what i called commitment!! which is very good, not like the likes of Williams sisters (not trying to bash them) because i like them too) who often cancelled to play at the very last minute.

Tournaments like Bali needs top players to sell tickets, and tournament organizers has been treating them very well. I think it is the best tier 3 out there at the moment.

players like Kuznie and Myskina have already commit to play here even before they win grand slam titles. so i don't think there is nothing wrong with this picture, who cares if Henin or Mauresmo wants to play a tier 5 as long as they are happy and selling tickets, why not???

Hingis played a tier 3 before as world #1 right?

so did Venus? maybe not when she was #1, but she was up there at top!

what do you think?

boggs570
Sep 16th, 2004, 11:52 AM
It's a money thing with the Russians that is why they play every tournament.

bandabou
Sep 16th, 2004, 12:05 PM
it's what i called commitment!! which is very good, not like the likes of Williams sisters (not trying to bash them) because i like them too) who often cancelled to play at the very last minute.

Tournaments like Bali needs top players to sell tickets, and tournament organizers has been treating them very well. I think it is the best tier 3 out there at the moment.

players like Kuznie and Myskina have already commit to play here even before they win grand slam titles. so i don't think there is nothing wrong with this picture, who cares if Henin or Mauresmo wants to play a tier 5 as long as they are happy and selling tickets, why not???

Hingis played a tier 3 before as world #1 right?

so did Venus? maybe not when she was #1, but she was up there at top!

what do you think?


I see....I understand what you´re trying to explain, but it just stroke me like odd that Maria was the only top 10 player not committed to play Filderstadt one of the strongest, if not the strongest event, out there.

That is more of test case than beating some Yieng and Kim in Asia, no disrespect.

Mr_Molik
Sep 16th, 2004, 12:35 PM
it would be interesting to see if there have been any tourneys this yr without a russian in the main draw...

Princess Fiona
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:17 PM
(What others have really already said in this thread... :) )

Tennis is a business. The Russians want to get the best rankings they can and make the money too... They are also supporting the tour... I imagine having so many Russians in the Top 100 is creating lots of competition - they are spurring each other on!! :)

Rollo
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:23 PM
OK Princess Fiona-but at some point it starts to effect winning slams (or more slams). Myskina shot herself in the foot for both the Olympics and the US Open with her utterly crazy schedule-I mean really-Sopot the week before Athens?:rolleyes:

Coming up it's a good thing to play a lot IMO. But once you've had some success it actually pays to cut back. The difference between 17 weeks and 24 is HUGE. That's 7 weeks for recovery and/Or (memo to Dementieva) actually working on a stroke to eliminate a weakness.


Yet some midrange players catch the "Russian disease" and never Recover. Bovina is example A of becoming that-following in the steps of Likhovtseva.

KV
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:36 PM
S. Farina, P. Suarez played a Tier 5 too this season. And what does E. Loit do, high enough ranked to play the tier 2's but she skips and goes for a Tier 5 instead. Alot of players do this, not only the Russians.

JonBcn
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Loit's playing a challenger next week, I believe (although I could have dreamt that)...

KV
Sep 16th, 2004, 01:40 PM
Loit's playing a challenger next week, I believe (although I could have dreamt that)...Yes, she does. Too highly ranked for that, IMO

tennnisfannn
Sep 16th, 2004, 02:05 PM
it's what i called commitment!! which is very good, not like the likes of Williams sisters (not trying to bash them) because i like them too) who often cancelled to play at the very last minute.

Last year this time everyone was saying the same thing about Kim, look what happened. Kuznetsova and Myskina (esp Svetlana) may not have counted on winning slams this year and figured they would probably be making the qfs and semis and the occaional final. But once they start going deep into tournys, alot changes.
Sometimes i wonder, if lindsay had played one less tourny, would her body have been good for just two more matches? We will never know.

Dana Marcy
Sep 16th, 2004, 03:06 PM
LOL @ this topic! I think every tennis fan should tell players what tournaments they should and should not play. Don't yawl? LOL

fammmmedspin
Sep 16th, 2004, 05:30 PM
Its a global tour. The money is in places like Moscow, Bali and Doha and one day so will the Tier 1s be, The top Russians don't actually play much more than the top 10 average allowing for the williams sisters and the injuries for Justine and Momo, True the russians play lots around he world but some americans play all the US tournaments around - just look at Lindsay.