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JCF
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Who do you think?

buscemi
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Who do you think?

I would say Dementieva. She had a super-soft draw at the French and got lucky with the Smashnova withdrawal. And then she got a pretty soft U.S. Open draw, again benefitting from a withdrawal (Dechy).

Farina Elia Fan
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:32 PM
suarez!


this lucky bitch seems to have had a lucky draws all year!! Like the French and Wimbledon plus tons more!!! :(

Gandalf
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:33 PM
I don't think Dementieva's USOpen draw was all that nice. Still, I think that Kutznesova was lucky that both Pierce and Davenport got injured during their matches, and that Petrova took Henin out.

KV
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:34 PM
P. Suarez

buscemi
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:35 PM
I don't think Dementieva's USOpen draw was all that nice. Still, I think that Kutznesova was lucky that both Pierce and Davenport got injured during their matches, and that Petrova took Henin out.

I don't know...getting that withdrawal from Dechy in the 3rd round (who just made the finals at Pilot Penn) was pretty nice, especially b/c Elena was having some health problems. I doubt she makes the finals if she has to play that match.

CooCooCachoo
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Svetlana Kuznetsova. In my opinion she got really lucky that Lindsay Davenport was injured in their match last week.

CooCooCachoo
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:40 PM
suarez!


this lucky bitch seems to have had a lucky draws all year!! Like the French and Wimbledon plus tons more!!! :(

:ras: :nerner:

buscemi
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Svetlana Kuznetsova. In my opinion she got really lucky that Lindsay Davenport was injured in their match last week.

She did get a bit lucky in that 1 match, but look at the rest of her year:

AO -- Henin-Hardenne (champion) in the R32 (very tough draw)
FO -- Myskina (champion) in R16 (very tough draw)
Wimbledon -- Razzano in round 1 (a pretty tough 1st round draw)

Farina Elia Fan
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Wimbledon -- Razzano in round 1 (a pretty tough 1st round draw)




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

buscemi
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:48 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay, maybe Razzano was reaching a bit, but when you play 2 eventual champions in the R16 and R32 at 2 majors, I have a hard time saying you had a year of easy draws.

JLDementieva
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:49 PM
I think Kuznetsova definitely had a bit of luck at the USO. She didn't have to play JHH thanks to Petrova, and then she played an injured Davenport in the semis.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:50 PM
Svetlana Kuznetsova. In my opinion she got really lucky that Lindsay Davenport was injured in their match last week.
Yeah i agree, really doubt she would have won that match otherwise.

Capriati got lucky in one match, but in the end it didn't get her anywhere, so i wouldn't really think of her as lucky.

buscemi
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:52 PM
I think Kuznetsova definitely had a bit of luck at the USO. She didn't have to play JHH thanks to Petrova, and then she played an injured Davenport in the semis.

Yeah, but she had really tough draws at 2 other Slams.

spencercarlos
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:00 PM
Myskina, she won a slam beating 3 straight top ten players playing THEIR worst tennis. Venus, Capriati and Dementieva.

JCF
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Myskina, she won a slam beating 3 straight top ten players playing her worst tennis. Venus, Capriati and Dementieva.
She won a GS playing her worst tennis, wow :worship: :worship:

I think Mauresmo, after all she's number 1 without being anything resembling the best player this year.

udachi Elena
Sep 14th, 2004, 05:13 PM
I don't think Dementieva's USOpen draw was all that nice. Still, I think that Kutznesova was lucky that both Pierce and Davenport got injured during their matches, and that Petrova took Henin out.
100% Correct. Kuznetsova caught a break that the hottest player on tour injured herself in practice, and that JHH wasn't waiting to kick her ass in the quarters.
Anyone who said elena was lucky is crazy! she played all 3 set matches but 1. She's a fighter!

Hantuchov
Sep 14th, 2004, 05:23 PM
I would say Dementieva. She had a super-soft draw at the French and got lucky with the Smashnova withdrawal. And then she got a pretty soft U.S. Open draw, again benefitting from a withdrawal (Dechy).

Definetely :haha: :retard: :o

I'd say Kuznetsova for facing 2 injured players in her last 2 matches in US Open :o :o :o

LUXXXAS
Sep 14th, 2004, 06:58 PM
Yeah Kuznetsova. Lindsay was 100% favourite to win Open.....................

faboozadoo15
Sep 14th, 2004, 07:58 PM
suarez... the draws she gets

kuznetsova- amy should have beaten her, pierce was injured against her, petrova took out henin hardenne and had a let down, davenport was injured, elena was injured... i mean even though a lot of these were slight injuries or irritations, i really have to think A LOT of luck helped her.

and mauresmo- getting to #1 :tape:

spencercarlos
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:07 PM
She won a GS playing her worst tennis, wow :worship: :worship:

I think Mauresmo, after all she's number 1 without being anything resembling the best player this year.
ok it worths the correction :p :devil:

Verba
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:07 PM
I agree that Kuzzie was the luckiest one in the USO.

Jeleno Benesovo
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:21 PM
suarez!


this lucky bitch seems to have had a lucky draws all year!! Like the French and Wimbledon plus tons more!!! :(
couldn't agree more

Farina Elia Fan
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:32 PM
couldn't agree more



i thought it was just me who noticed! lol

Wiggly
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Mauresmo 99% and Kuznetsova 1% :)

skanky~skanketta
Sep 14th, 2004, 09:07 PM
*momo was very lucky for reaching #1 with pretty dismal (for a #1's standards) at a slam
*sharapova got a lil lucky cuz serena was way off in the wimbledon final. granted she could have still won even if serena was on, but serena wasn't. still, kudos to her for playing brilliantly.but she did beat lindsay and lindsay wasn't hurt. and she fought and won her QF and 4th round battles as well. she just got a bit lucky in the final.
*myskina, well, she played out of her mind. can't say she beat venus cuz venus was off cuz venus has been playing badly ALL year and not just that tourney. she worked to get the FO.
*kuznetsova was a lucky to have an injured lindsay and an exhausted dementieva en route to the title. still, she hung in there and she does have an outstanding game.
*capriati very lucky to make the semis of the USO. doucheniva almost knocked her out but her inexperience let her down, sugiyama simply cant play at the big stages against a higher ranked player, and the less said about the QF match, the better.

IMO, serena was VERY lucky to make the WIMBY finals cuz all tourney she kept running around her forehand to hit the backhand and her footwork was atrocious!good thing she played momo in the semis.

Crazy Canuck
Sep 14th, 2004, 09:18 PM
I don't see how not having to play Henin, who was clearly playing like crotch, can be considered "lucky".

Ravsieg
Sep 14th, 2004, 09:54 PM
Myskina wasn't that lucky, she played brilliant tennis. She beat Kuznetsova after a great recovery.. she was losing 1-5 on the third set then came back to win 8-6. Also, she's getting plenty of finals and semifinals on Tier I and Tier II events.

Dementieva wasn't lucky in my opinion too, she caught Safina on the first round right away, she was one of best unseeded players. She benefited from Dechy's withdrawal that's right, but she beat Amélie Mauresmo and Jennifer Capriati, 2 top players who were playing brilliantly, in tough matches!

Mauresmo isn't also lucky.. she just seems to fail when it comes to the deciding stages of Grand Slams, she's pretty much dominated tons of Tier I and Tier II also.

I voted for Kuznetsova because this title wasn't as deserved as all the other slams this year.. she had trouble to beat Frazier, faced an injured Pierce then an injured Davenport, then on the final, an injured Dementieva.

Loughyunijen
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:23 PM
defo got to be sharapova and kuzentova...........1st the rain stops lindsay flow at wimbledon, she should have been in final!

THEN........lindsay gets injured! !st set proved.......she should have walked to US Open final..........sharapova and kuzentova both the luckest players on earth!

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:27 PM
defo got to be sharapova and kuzentova...........1st the rain stops lindsay flow at wimbledon, she should have been in final!

THEN........lindsay gets injured! !st set proved.......she should have walked to US Open final..........sharapova and kuzentova both the luckest players on earth!

I take it you think Federer was also very lucky to win wimbledon this year then? You are really not making any sense.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:30 PM
i voted kutzy since no one thought she could/would win.

brunof
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Bahia Mouhtassine - recently won a 25K challenger by defeating 4 qualifier (in five matches) en route to the title. :o The next week she went on to lose to the 724 player in the world.

Greenout
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:30 PM
Paola Suarez.

Have you looked at her draws in 4 grand slams this year? :lol:

Mr_Molik
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:32 PM
suarez
but i admire that she can take advantage of it when the draw opens up for her, unlike alot of players...

j_dementieva27
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:42 PM
I would say Dementieva. She had a super-soft draw at the French and got lucky with the Smashnova withdrawal. And then she got a pretty soft U.S. Open draw, again benefitting from a withdrawal (Dechy).

most ridiculous claim ... her draw was soft?? ... take a look buddy... fourth round davenport, qf mauresmo, sf suarez (arugablely one of the best clay courters)

and the open?? fourth round zvonareva, qf mauresmo, sf capriati!?

if thats soft, god, beating three top ten players in a row must just be a feat that happens all the time!

brunof
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:53 PM
If memory calls, Fabiola Zuluaga had a "pretty easy" draw en route to her semifinal appearance at the Australian Open this year...(Does it not seem like ages ago? :tape:) Asagoe, Diaz, Craybas, Kapros, Mauresmo (ret.) and then she lost to Justine. A nice draw to the semis. Makes Myskina's win all the more impressive. :bounce:

fabifan#1
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:07 AM
If memory calls, Fabiola Zuluaga had a "pretty easy" draw en route to her semifinal appearance at the Australian Open this year...(Does it not seem like ages ago? :tape:) Asagoe, Diaz, Craybas, Kapros, Mauresmo (ret.) and then she lost to Justine. A nice draw to the semis. Makes Myskina's win all the more impressive. :bounce:
its true she did get lucky there in QF with mauresmo withdrawing but she did do pretty well the rest getting to some QFs and winning bogota

fabifan#1
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:08 AM
i still think suarez and sharapova

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:10 AM
Sharapova was the least lucky out of everyone. She had quite hard draws in her tournaments. Mauresmo was luckiest I think.

switz
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:59 AM
i thought it was just me who noticed! lol

lots of people have noticed it's just that most of us don't want to agree with someone you calls someone a bitch because they take advantage of lucky draws.

SzavayFi
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Amelie Mauresmo, reaching number 1 without a GS

russophile
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:37 AM
paola suarez! her draws are blah!

fabifan#1
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:47 AM
true very lucky

fabifan#1
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:48 AM
and sharapova not playing myskina in wimbledon and that stupid rain delay in semis against linz shes very lucky

JLDementieva
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:50 AM
looks like most of the GS winners this year have been a little 'lucky' on their way to their first GS title!

Lemonskin.
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:47 AM
Momo. She gets heaps of cakewalk draws, and then loses to the top players.

treiber04
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:54 AM
Jennifer Capriait. Not once, not twice, not thrice, but FOUR times.

LucasArg
Sep 15th, 2004, 04:35 AM
suarez!


this lucky bitch seems to have had a lucky draws all year!! Like the French and Wimbledon plus tons more!!! :(
asshole!!!!:silly:

tennnisfannn
Sep 15th, 2004, 10:23 AM
In andre aggasi's words, one needs not only to play well but you need alot of luck too. Luck of the draw is what it is all about, one needs those players whose games are most suited to you to be in your path. Lindsay's draw at the USO seems so tough with venus, myskina and justine just to get to the finals, turned all she had to get by was venus, but a pity injury happened in the end.
Dementieva was lucky jen took care of serena coz her game suits serena and may not have made the final.
An ailing or recovering justine presented not just nadia but svetalana a chance to play an ailing lindsay enroute to the title, who knows if she would have won had she had to play either serena or amelie.
Everyone needs abit of luck, an opponent having an off day, line calls, and a string of fairly easy matches along the way. was Dementieva unlucky to play amelie and jen back to back to make the final, a bit more freshness in her legs may have allowed her to be more aggressive in the final.

Loughyunijen
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:30 PM
I take it you think Federer was also very lucky to win wimbledon this year then? You are really not making any sense.


Nope federer is a world class athlete and has proved himself by winning 3 grand slams this year! He was always the guy to beat this year in every grandslam.....and yet again he proved himself as he yet again won another grandslam being the US Open.

Sharapova on the other hand....isnt not at the same professional level that federer is. She is not a complete player, and in alot of people's professional opions she won her 1st grandslam too early.

Lindsay was a set up and a break up in the 2nd set before the rain hit at wimbledon. She was in the groove and she was in the zone. Sharapova would have lost that match if the rain hadnt come. She was no where near at the level that davenport was playing at. I was at wibledon for the whole of the 2 week champoinships and i watched sharapova a lot....she didnt look like a threat in the tournament at all until some of the big seeds fell!

So yeah i think she was lucky at wimbledon......and i can almost guarentee you that she wont win another grandlam in the next year!

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Nope federer is a world class athlete and has proved himself by winning 3 grand slams this year! He was always the guy to beat this year in every grandslam.....and yet again he proved himself as he yet again won another grandslam being the US Open.

Sharapova on the other hand....isnt not at the same professional level that federer is. She is not a complete player, and in alot of people's professional opions she won her 1st grandslam too early.

Lindsay was a set up and a break up in the 2nd set before the rain hit at wimbledon. She was in the groove and she was in the zone. Sharapova would have lost that match if the rain hadnt come. She was no where near at the level that davenport was playing at. I was at wibledon for the whole of the 2 week champoinships and i watched sharapova a lot....she didnt look like a threat in the tournament at all until some of the big seeds fell!

So yeah i think she was lucky at wimbledon......and i can almost guarentee you that she wont win another grandlam in the next year!

Sharapova played FAR better than ALL her opponents. Yeah, she was a a set and 2-1 down before the rain came down but you can't say davenport would have won had it not been for the rain, 2-1 down in a set does not mean a loss of the set. Federer was a set and a break down in the final before the rain came down. Rain is a part of the game, there is rain every year. The way you put it, then every single wimbledon champ in history was lucky.

Big seeds? How about DEMOLISHING the no 1 seed in the most one-sided wimby final for the past 12 years.

Loughyunijen
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:00 PM
That number 1 seed........as you know it was not "playing" like a number 1 seed because she was comming of a 6 month injury! Also that "number 1" seed....had protected rankings! Therefore she was probably playing more like a 20 in the world at that time and not a seed 1!

So yeah she beat her.......but we all know that the williams sisters have been injured and are no where near a the top of their game.......fair enough sharapova took advantage of her injuries......but if serena had of been fully fit, match perfect and lota of match practise........then can you honestly say sharapova would have won??? I think NOT!

I mean she is completely healthy and meant to be this new star......but yet what has she done since wimby?? A big fat ZERO! she struggled in every round at the US Open, before finally being dumped out!

Im not saying that sharapova is not a good player and yeah she won wimbledon "fair and square" but what im saying is that this year she was very lucky at wimbledon and if it hadnt been for the rain....she wouldnt have been in the final. AND if serena had been injury free.....she wouldnt have been wimby champoin either.

The truth will be "in the pudding" so to speak! CAuse i guarentee you that she wont win another grand slam in the next comming year.......caprriati/davenport(if she doesnt retire)the williams sisters/henin-hardene will clean them all up........

because as i said sharapova is not a worthy champoin.......yet!

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:05 PM
She is a worthy and proven wimbledon champion. Serena beat Capriati 6-1 6-1, if she was shit, how bad is capriati or was capriati "injured" as well? How do u know davenport would have beated her if it wasn't for rain, you think 2-1 in 2nd set means match is 100% over? did you think that for the men's final as well?

Loughyunijen
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:16 PM
She is a worthy and proven wimbledon champion. Serena beat Capriati 6-1 6-1, if she was shit, how bad is capriati or was capriati "injured" as well? How do u know davenport would have beated her if it wasn't for rain, you think 2-1 in 2nd set means match is 100% over? did you think that for the men's final as well?


In the after match interview that capriati gave she said "I had an off day" she didnt have any other explanations. However she did have a slight groin strain.....but said that had nothing to with her loss. EVery one has an off day.

Do you agree with me that if serema had of been where she was back in 2002 when she was fully fit and match perfect that an inexperieced sharapova at 17years old would have beaten her???

i dont think that eig a break up....in the second meant game over.....but the way davenport was playing before the rain began....was just supreme....sharapova couldnt hit a ball....if the rain hadnt come i couldnt have seen lindsays change of play or even more her state of mind changing like it did.

the mens final was completely different roddick was always the underdog....and i dont think that you can reallt compare because both are experienced champions.......be it rain, sun, sleet, snow......you can never right federer off with the way he is playing right now.

Loughyunijen
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:18 PM
She is a worthy and proven wimbledon champion. Serena beat Capriati 6-1 6-1, if she was shit, how bad is capriati or was capriati "injured" as well? How do u know davenport would have beated her if it wasn't for rain, you think 2-1 in 2nd set means match is 100% over? did you think that for the men's final as well?


If you dont mind me asking how old are you? and do you haev a tennis related job?

skanky~skanketta
Sep 15th, 2004, 05:52 PM
Sharapova played FAR better than ALL her opponents. Yeah, she was a a set and 2-1 down before the rain came down but you can't say davenport would have won had it not been for the rain, 2-1 down in a set does not mean a loss of the set. Federer was a set and a break down in the final before the rain came down. Rain is a part of the game, there is rain every year. The way you put it, then every single wimbledon champ in history was lucky.

Big seeds? How about DEMOLISHING the no 1 seed in the most one-sided wimby final for the past 12 years.

serena played like shyt.she had been having big problems with her forehand AND she was implementing volleying into her game at the same time.

skanky~skanketta
Sep 15th, 2004, 05:55 PM
She is a worthy and proven wimbledon champion. Serena beat Capriati 6-1 6-1, if she was shit, how bad is capriati or was capriati "injured" as well? How do u know davenport would have beated her if it wasn't for rain, you think 2-1 in 2nd set means match is 100% over? did you think that for the men's final as well?

did u even watch this match?capriati was FLAT from the start. she played very ameteurishly. anyone who saw that match will say the same. serena wasn't all that in that match but capriati couldn't do anything. if u wanna know what having an "off-day" means, watch that match (and the capriati-magui serna match at the USO this year)

Crazy_Fool
Sep 15th, 2004, 06:36 PM
So yeah i think she was lucky at wimbledon......and i can almost guarentee you that she wont win another grandlam in the next year!
Not really, she got lucky in one match that she probably would have lost....Kuztensova on the other hand, well at least 3 matches she got lucky, and then their was her draw opening up...

VeraNuVirgosFan
Sep 16th, 2004, 04:09 AM
...Lindsay was a set up and a break up in the 2nd set before the rain hit at wimbledon. She was in the groove and she was in the zone. Sharapova would have lost that match if the rain hadnt come. She was no where near at the level that davenport was playing at...
I agree.
...but yet what has she done since Wimby??...she struggled in every round at the US Open, before finally being dumped out!

They are different surfaces. So far Sharapova has only had a very good record on grass. And this year her record on clay was better than on hardcourt.