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Sam L
Sep 14th, 2004, 01:05 PM
Lesbian tennis player is world's No. 1
by Tom Musbach
PlanetOut Network

Published 2004/09/13

Olympic silver medalist Amelie Mauresmo, a lesbian tennis player from France, has become the world's top-ranked woman player, according to rankings from the WTA Tour released on Monday.

Mauresmo is only the second female athlete, behind Belgian Kim Clijsters, to hold the top spot without having won a Grand Slam tournament. The Frenchwoman's only appearance in a Grand Slam final was the 1999 Australian Open.

"Hopefully, now the Grand Slams will follow," she told reporters last week. "It's all about building things step by step. This gives me an incentive to work and work."

Last week, she lost during the quarterfinals (http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2004/09/08/2) at the U.S. Open to Elena Dementieva, currently ranked fifth in the world. At the Olympics last month in Athens, Greece, she won a silver medal, (http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2004/08/23/1) losing to Justine Henin-Hardenne of Belgium, now ranked fourth.

Mauresmo, 25, holds 13 WTA (Women's Tennis Association) singles titles. After revealing her sexual orientation during an interview with a French newspaper in 1999, she has endured comments about her strength and athletic style not being "feminine" enough.

Helen Carroll of the Homophobia in Sports Project at the National Center for Lesbian Rights criticized the stereotyping behind such remarks.

"That she is not 'feminine enough' speaks to societal attitudes of gender as much as sexual orientation," Carroll said. "Does 'feminine enough' mean a sports woman must be modeling the latest fashions for the media?"

"As long as she's comfortable with herself that's all that matters," said Tyler Hoffman, spokesman for the Gay and Lesbian Professional Athletes Association. "Maybe she can encourage other (lesbian athletes) to not hide."

"[Mauresmo] is the image of a vibrant mature woman excelling in her endeavors," Carroll told the PlanetOut Network. "That makes her a role model for all types of women!"

Posted September 13, 2004


Source: www.gay.com

rada
Sep 14th, 2004, 01:32 PM
good on her ;) keep it up

Foot_Fault
Sep 14th, 2004, 02:13 PM
Stupid ass TITLE. Looks made up. what the "FUCK!" do her having to be a Lesbian do with her ability to play tennis?

griffin
Sep 14th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Stupid ass TITLE. Looks made up. what the "FUCK!" do her having to be a Lesbian do with her ability to play tennis?

Nothing, but it explains why PlanetOut would care about the rankings.

Now if SI or the WTA site used a title like that...

Bette_Midler
Sep 14th, 2004, 02:33 PM
hahahahahahahahah

Helen Lawson
Sep 14th, 2004, 02:45 PM
I'm trying to think of an out lesbian who's won a Best Actress Oscar. We've had a couple of closet cases, but let's face facts, no one's truly in the closet in Hollywood because it's too small a town, and I mean from the 1920's to the 1990's. All I can say is, Joan Fontaine and Patricia Neal have never put the moves on me, so I think they're off the short list.

I love how even a gay-rag has to point out that's she slamless at No. 1 also. I mean, if a rag is going to cut her a break, wouldn't it be this one?

I Love Maria
Sep 14th, 2004, 02:51 PM
Who gives a shit whether she's lesbian or not?

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:56 PM
Who gives a shit whether she's lesbian or not?
Young lesbians and gay menall across the country that are looking for a role model and are unsure of themselves because of fear of hatred.

Spunky83
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:17 PM
I am sorry, but I totally donīt get the sense of this article...

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:28 PM
The article was written for a gay & lesbian magazine, so it's headline is geared toward that audience.

p1
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:46 PM
Who cares if she's a lesbian - great tennis player.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:49 PM
i forgot all about her being a lesbian :o

volta
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:06 AM
and who cares if sheīs Lesbian or not? i donīt like Momo @ all iīll never support her but WTF sheīs lesbian big deal. she wants people to look @ her tennis not her personal life

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:14 AM
Good GOD people - you just don't get it.

hotandspicey
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:14 AM
Amelie being a lesbian #1 player in tennis, might be big news for the gay community. To most of us its no big deal.I forgot about her sexuality until this article.

CC
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:25 AM
Who knew?

M2k
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:35 AM
Good GOD people - you just don't get it.
don't waste your time VSFan1...some people are just ---> :banghead:


congrats to our beautiful sister for her top ranking:umbrella: :umbrella:

Gallofa
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:37 AM
i forgot all about her being a lesbian :o
I also did! I was thinking who? :lol: - It might be a big deal for some people, but I think it's the kind of fact that tends to slip out of the mind of most... at least my mind.

Handmaiden
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:41 AM
It's totally pertinent and exciting. Hooray for Amelie's lesbianism! Even Martina N was cagey and apologetic about her sexuality at her apex. Remember her interview with Barbara Walters in '91?
Barbara: Have you ever had sex with a man?
Martina: Yes! Oh yes! Good sex! Lots of sex!

M2k
Sep 15th, 2004, 12:50 AM
It's totally pertinent and exciting. Hooray for Amelie's lesbianism! Even Martina N was cagey and apologetic about her sexuality at her apex. Remember her interview with Barbara Walters in '91?
Barbara: Have you ever had sex with a man?
Martina: Yes! Oh yes! Good sex! Lots of sex!
hehe! though she did go through a lot which is too bad.

but look at her now :devil:

Jakeev
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:06 AM
The Article Was Written By A National Gay/lesbian Association.......what Part Of That Do You Not Just Get?????

pokey camp
Sep 15th, 2004, 01:10 AM
Who cares if she's a lesbian - great tennis player.
p1, if everyone felt this way, more people would feel free to come out and would not be afraid.

As it stands that's not the case. So count me as someone "who cares."

vettipooh
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:08 AM
I'm sure the wta players are not interested in the fact that she's gay.Its no longer a stigma.

SzavayFi
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:10 AM
yea, lindsay said some rude things about her along time ago, and that was awhile back and she apolojized, y would they write about that.....its just plain mean!

MinnyGophers
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:13 AM
yea, lindsay said some rude things about her along time ago, and that was awhile back and she apolojized, y would they write about that.....its just plain mean!

not belittling Lindsay since I have no idea if she actually meant what she said, but what was more mean? Criticizing Amelie about her sexual orientation and/or physical appearance? Or being punished by the press for criticizing Amelie.

Seles-Sharapova
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:14 AM
not belittling Lindsay since I have no idea if she actually meant what she said, but what was more mean? Criticizing Amelie about her sexual orientation and/or physical appearance? Or being punished by the press for criticizing Amelie.

both equally as mean.

SzavayFi
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:16 AM
not belittling Lindsay since I have no idea if she actually meant what she said, but what was more mean? Criticizing Amelie about her sexual orientation and/or physical appearance? Or being punished by the press for criticizing Amelie.
hmmmm, i dunno they r both really mean!

russophile
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:20 AM
i didn't know she was a lesbian...

SzavayFi
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:24 AM
i didn't know she was a lesbian...
...........yea :tape: :rolleyes:

Volcana
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:27 AM
Proving once and for all that lesbians can pull defeat from the jaws of victory every bit as well as straight women can. Hoo-RAAAAYYYY!!!!

SzavayFi
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:29 AM
Proving once and for all that lesbians can pull defeat from the jaws of victory every bit as well as straight women can. Hoo-RAAAAYYYY!!!!
:help: :baby: :unsure: ........jk.

RVD
Sep 15th, 2004, 02:52 AM
I usually avoid threads likes these but for some reason, was compelled to respond.

Personally, I don't understand what the big deal is. I've known there to be plenty of gay and lesbian sports figures. Apparently, tennis has quite a few as well. Anyway, seeing as this was written by and for a gay and lesbian publication, I think it's cool. It's a forum for empowerment, and I say 'go for it'.
My nephew is gay, and at times I've been the only one he can talk to because of the misconceptions people have of him. Unfortunately, when articles like this hit the mainstream media outlets, it opens itself to severe scrutiny and bias. People often use cases such as this to catagorize others in order to feel superior. :confused:
I'm not a fan of Amelie's, but I'm sure she's presently revelling in the glow of her #1 ranking and basking in anticipation of what the future holds. ;)

fabifan#1
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:20 AM
good for her !!!:D

Helen Lawson
Sep 15th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Here's the deal. Ok, Floyd and I got married about a year before I did "I Want to Live!" I was sort of fed up with Hollywood at that point, I had put the shitty marriage and divorce to Jess behind me, and Floyd thought Hollywood was full of fruits, which he didn't like, so we moved back to his ranch in Carrollton, Georgia. Yes, Helen moved out of Hollywood. Carrollton is a small town, and of course, being the superstar that I am, everyone loved me and I make loads of friends. Really! I was downright rural! Anyway, I make "I Want to Live!" after that and in the Spring of 1959, I finally bag that Best Actress Oscar I'd been chasing for 30 years. When Floyd and I returned to Carrollton a few days after the ceremonies, Oscar in hand, the people of Carrollton gave me a ticker-tape parade and everyone came out to see me, I was on a float, and it was a big party. I didn't get a parade anywhere else, and Carrollton didn't have parades for other Best Actress winners because I shared something with the folks in Carrollton that the other winning dames didn't. I was "one of them." I lived in Carrollton, shopped at the general store, played bridge, gossiped about our husbands, and were friends. We all shared the Carrollton bond. The papers blazed, "Carrollton resident wins Oscar" and the like. It's the same with Amelie and the gay-rag!

*JR*
Sep 15th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Martina I gives the news a round of applause. (Snickers: But I was #1 and won 18 Slams too, hehehehehe). :devil:

Vass22
Sep 15th, 2004, 05:55 PM
Stupid ass TITLE. Looks made up. what the "FUCK!" do her having to be a Lesbian do with her ability to play tennis?
Below the article it says: "Source: www.gay.com". I guess it explains it somethat.

tennischick
Sep 16th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Helen :worship:

gay tennis players must feel so inspired by this.

Calimero377
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Who cares if she's a lesbian - great tennis player.


Who cares ifSerena is black - great tennis player.
Who cares if Margaret Court was a mother in 1973 - great tennis player.

But all the time people keep on reminding me that Serena is black and Court was a mother ....


:confused:

Kart
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:19 PM
Helen Carroll of the Homophobia in Sports Project at the National Center for Lesbian Rights criticized the stereotyping behind such remarks.

"As long as she's comfortable with herself that's all that matters," said Tyler Hoffman, spokesman for the Gay and Lesbian Professional Athletes Association. "Maybe she can encourage other (lesbian athletes) to not hide."
As opposed to the stereotyping that all openly gay people automatically want to be held up as icons to be paraded for all people in the closet to look up to ? :confused:

Bizarrely I find myelf agreeing with others who are saying 'what's the big deal ?'

Yes, Amelie's a lesbian, yes, she's no.1 in the world, but does that mean she wants to be referenced over and over as a role model because of her being out rather than her being the world's no.1 ?

I'm not so sure :scratch:.

DA FOREHAND
Sep 16th, 2004, 07:58 PM
I am sorry, but I totally donīt get the sense of this article...


Exactly it's not like she's the first...Navratilova and Seles were number one decades before.

ghosts
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:08 PM
:eek:

griffin
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:13 PM
OK, to recap for those who keep missing/not reading:

(I Love Maria: " Who gives a shit whether she's lesbian or not?")
VSfan1: "Young lesbians and gay menall across the country that are looking for a role model and are unsure of themselves because of fear of hatred."


Spunky: "I don't get the sense of this article"
VSFan1:" The article was written for a gay & lesbian magazine, so it's headline is geared toward that audience."


Jakeev: " The Article Was Written By A National Gay/lesbian Association.......what Part Of That Do You Not Just Get????? "

But heck, while we're at it -
Calimero377: "Who cares ifSerena is black - great tennis player.
Who cares if Margaret Court was a mother in 1973 - great tennis player.

But all the time people keep on reminding me that Serena is black and Court was a mother ...."


Jebus.

DunkMachine
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:18 PM
Leeeesbiiiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn..... ........

alfajeffster
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:25 PM
OK, to recap for those who keep missing/not reading:

(I Love Maria: " Who gives a shit whether she's lesbian or not?")
VSfan1: "Young lesbians and gay menall across the country that are looking for a role model and are unsure of themselves because of fear of hatred."


Spunky: "I don't get the sense of this article"
VSFan1:" The article was written for a gay & lesbian magazine, so it's headline is geared toward that audience."


Jakeev: " The Article Was Written By A National Gay/lesbian Association.......what Part Of That Do You Not Just Get????? "

But heck, while we're at it -
Calimero377: "Who cares ifSerena is black - great tennis player.
Who cares if Margaret Court was a mother in 1973 - great tennis player.

But all the time people keep on reminding me that Serena is black and Court was a mother ...."


Jebus.Which came first, the lesbian or the gay?:lol:

P.S.- you know me by now griffin, I'm so with you on this- it's been hard to leave this thread alone for as long as I did...

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to griffin again."

tennischick
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:27 PM
Exactly it's not like she's the first...Navratilova and Seles were number one decades before.Seles is gay :confused: :eek: :eek:

griffin
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Which came first, the lesbian or the gay?

Neither :fiery: both are terms created by the Patriarchy to compartmentalize human sexuality, enforce the primacy of heterocentrism and give lesbian feminists something to write dissertations about ;)

RVD
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:39 PM
OK, to recap for those who keep missing/not reading:

(I Love Maria: " Who gives a shit whether she's lesbian or not?")
VSfan1: "Young lesbians and gay menall across the country that are looking for a role model and are unsure of themselves because of fear of hatred."


Spunky: "I don't get the sense of this article"
VSFan1:" The article was written for a gay & lesbian magazine, so it's headline is geared toward that audience."


Jakeev: " The Article Was Written By A National Gay/lesbian Association.......what Part Of That Do You Not Just Get????? "

But heck, while we're at it -
Calimero377: "Who cares ifSerena is black - great tennis player.
Who cares if Margaret Court was a mother in 1973 - great tennis player.

But all the time people keep on reminding me that Serena is black and Court was a mother ...."


Jebus.If these points don't explain it, then I don't know what will. :cool:

alfajeffster
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Neither :fiery: both are terms created by the Patriarchy to compartmentalize human sexuality, enforce the primacy of heterocentrism and give lesbian feminists something to write dissertations about ;)
Do you have any idea how many pigs you just annoyed?:lol:

LostGlory
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:48 PM
Exactly it's not like she's the first...Navratilova and Seles were number one decades before.

I hate to sound stupid but is seles Lesbian??

alfajeffster
Sep 16th, 2004, 08:53 PM
I hate to sound stupid but is seles Lesbian??
Lest someone come along and consider you a degeneres, allow me to take off those rosie colored glasses of yours. Unless Ms. Seles just moved in next door to you and has begun leaving little rendezvous notes in your mailbox, what does it matter?

LostGlory
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:17 PM
Lest someone come along and consider you a degeneres, allow me to take off those rosie colored glasses of yours. Unless Ms. Seles just moved in next door to you and has begun leaving little rendezvous notes in your mailbox, what does it matter?

Hmmm another smart azz on the board

alfajeffster
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:28 PM
Hmmm another smart azz on the board
Not really- it's just Thursday afternoon, and once in a while on a Thursday I get a wild hair. Trust me- it'll all be gone by tomorrow morning, and I'll be back to my normal boring life.

P.S.- my neighbor is gay, and while he has yet to leave any notes for me, he just did me the biggest favor- he works at the local box office and got me 2 really good seats to see Heart in concert. I'm not sure how old you are, but I first saw Heart in 1980 during their BeBe Le Strange tour in Philadelphia, and now that the Wilson sisters are back together and touring with a kinder, gentler sound, I'm actually going to go see them for the first time in 24 years. That should pigeon-hole me as an old enough fart for you, so be happy and enjoy your Thursday evening, while I go home and smell myself in all my smart azz glory!:kiss:

griffin
Sep 16th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Heart? "The Breasts that Ate Cleveland"?

Do you still have hair to get wild at your age? :p

Crazy Canuck
Sep 17th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Good GOD people - you just don't get it.
Quite surprisingly not. It's not like one needs to be gay to "get it" with this article. I'm not and understood "the point" perfectly fine :confused:

Julia_08
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:15 AM
the lesbian part was stupid...
bunch of assholes

SelesFan70
Sep 17th, 2004, 05:30 AM
Seles isn't gay/lesbian... :rolleyes: But I"m sure Lisa Raymond is a tad jealous that this article didn't mention her. There's nothing worse than trying to see Raymond playing and having to fight off Birkenstock-wearing, mullet hair cut lesbians for a seat. :mad: My roomie almost got into a fight with a bull dyke in Miami over a seat :lol:

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2004, 01:51 PM
I know I had it in small font but there was a reason for sourcing this article to gay.com

Those in the know ---> :secret: <--- Sam L

alfajeffster
Sep 17th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Heart? "The Breasts that Ate Cleveland"?

Do you still have hair to get wild at your age? :p
What, you girls are the only ones allowed to get good mileage out of extensions?:p :lol:

Actually, I was a big Heart fan back in the 70s, and it wasn't until BeBe Le Strange that the hair began to explode. By the time they morphed into the gartantuan 80s tresses, I was off in the Siouxsie & The Banshees / Robert Smith / Morrissey / Lena Lovich direction- and no, there aren't any surviving pictures to come back and bite me in the arse- just a series of nerve-endings permanently switched in one or the other direction!:lol:

Daniel
Sep 18th, 2004, 03:25 AM
Congrats Momo :)