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alfajeffster
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:13 PM
I've talked with quite a few tennis people over the past few days (several of whom actually called the USTA to complain), and it's amazing how many new fans Serena Williams has gained, all because of the way she carried herself throughout the fiasco that was that USOpen Quarter-Final. I'm talking about people who either didn't care for her before, or just liked someone else better. The good thing that did come out of that loss was Serena Williams has a new group of admirers because of the way she behaved in the face of adversity.

Hoytie
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:16 PM
I'm still not an admirer.

volta
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:24 PM
I'm still not an admirer.
nobody is perfect ;) j/k
i love Serena hopefully she copmes strnger then ever in the end of the season and next year :worship:

Knizzle
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Oracene and Richard raised her right.

SJW
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:30 PM
yea Serena's gaining a lot of new fans :yeah:

Chrissie-fan
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Serena and Venus are great for Tennis,not only because they are great players,but also because of their personalities. Just like (though quite different of course) Capriati they have fans who absolutely adore them while others can't stand them. That's EXACTLY what the game needs. They get people interested in the game,make people take sides,get them involved. It's better that some people hate you than that they are indifferent towards you.

Many people couldn't stand John McEnroe or (early in his career) Jimmy Connors either,but they always played for a full house. Doesn't matter that most of those people were there in the hope that they would lose.....Besides,they mostly went home disappointed anyway :devil:

Gaston :lol:

I've talked with quite a few tennis people over the past few days (several of whom actually called the USTA to complain), and it's amazing how many new fans Serena Williams has gained, all because of the way she carried herself throughout the fiasco that was that USOpen Quarter-Final. I'm talking about people who either didn't care for her before, or just liked someone else better. The good thing that did come out of that loss was Serena Williams has a new group of admirers because of the way she behaved in the face of adversity.

Helen Lawson
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:42 PM
She handled that and the Indian Wells final with a lot of class and maturity. I always put myself in their position, I don't think I would have been as nice, and I'm a lot older than Serena and ostensibly more mature.

pav
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:51 PM
She handled that and the Indian Wells final with a lot of class and maturity. I always put myself in their position, I don't think I would have been as nice, and I'm a lot older than Serena and ostensibly more mature.
Yes,yes, but do You possess a butt of similar size and contour?

Helen Lawson
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:55 PM
Yes,yes, but do You possess a butt of similar size and contour?
No, I have to admit defeat when appropriate, Serena out booty's me. I am and always have been 36 1/2-26-35 1/2. That was the perfect measurement for dames of my generation, none of this skinny anorexia look for me!

pigam
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:05 PM
Yeah, as the years progress, Serena starts to 'grow on me' :unsure: :lol:
But, if Serena could choose: more fans, or semis in NY, I think I know what she would pick ;) :p
In fact, was there nothing MORE Serena could do? The mistake was so shameless surely something could have been done :shrug: . I don't 'blame' Serena or anything, but didn't she have the right to call for the tournament director right away, to demand a replay of the point or I dont know? Or would that have been rediculous?? :o I wouldn't have found it stupid. She had every right to do that IMO

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Yep...she handled herself very very well and wertheim raised that point too. Serena got one of the WORST calls EVER in tennis history against her and all she said was: "what the heck is this?" and even after the bad calls kept stappling themselves she still kept her cool.

Contrast that to a Jennifer who curses on a correction by the umpire that she KNOWS is right...

Chrissie-fan
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:36 PM
Everyone reacts differently when they are under stress than they would otherwise. And Jennifer is always on the edge anyway. Pure adrenalin. That's what makes her such an exciting player to watch for those of us who love her. All that nervous energy causes her to lose it sometimes. No problem,it gives the anti-Jenny crowd something to talk about. Until she retires of course,at which time they will choose another player to hate.

Gaston

Yep...she handled herself very very well and wertheim raised that point too. Serena got one of the WORST calls EVER in tennis history against her and all she said was: "what the heck is this?" and even after the bad calls kept stappling themselves she still kept her cool.

Contrast that to a Jennifer who curses on a correction by the umpire that she KNOWS is right...

Diesel
Sep 14th, 2004, 01:47 AM
:hearts: Serena :worship:

Rocketta
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:08 AM
Serena and Venus has class galore they could bottle it and sell it to jen...on the other hand give it to her. Jen is a real Bensonhurst/sheepshed Bay ghetto low life.
Gee don't you think it's time to start giving Jen a break? I mean it's not like she made the ref act a fool? :angel:

I mean not like her all you want but she does have people who like her and if someone talked about V & S as obsessively as you are about Jen wouldn't that get on your last nerve? :confused:

RedFilaJ-Cap#1
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:07 AM
Gee don't you think it's time to start giving Jen a break? I mean it's not like she made the ref act a fool? :angel:

I mean not like her all you want but she does have people who like her and if someone talked about V & S as obsessively as you are about Jen wouldn't that get on your last nerve? :confused:

Aww you are so nice!! I wish more people saw it like you!!!

Tratree
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:07 AM
Gee don't you think it's time to start giving Jen a break? I mean it's not like she made the ref act a fool? :angel:

I mean not like her all you want but she does have people who like her and if someone talked about V & S as obsessively as you are about Jen wouldn't that get on your last nerve? :confused:Rocketta, I was gonna send a lil rep your way, but I gotta spread it around first. I owe you a couple of green dots for that one ;)

BTW, Serena handled herself fabulously despite the circumstances. I would've been taking names and kicking butts :boxing:

VeraNuVirgosFan
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:30 AM
...In fact, was there nothing MORE Serena could do? The mistake was so shameless surely something could have been done. I don't 'blame' Serena or anything, but didn't she have the right to call for the tournament director right away, to demand a replay of the point or I dont know?...She had every right to do that IMO
I also wish Serena had taken some action immediately.

Certainly I believe strongly that Serena is capable of winning at least a GS title next year. However, as we have seen in 2003 and this year that a number of top players have been away from the tour for many months because of injuries/illness, so nobody really knows what will happen in the 2005 season.

JLDementieva
Sep 14th, 2004, 05:19 AM
I for one have gained a lot of respect for Serena through this, I didn't use to like her, but I really look at her in a different way now!

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 14th, 2004, 05:33 AM
If I was Serena...I would have packed my shit and walked the hell off the court!

No seriously though, I'm so proud of how she carried herself! It's an honor to know that even in the face of complete and utter fallacies, she can keep her cool. Just like in Paris in 2003. She has been known for being one of the most (next to Davy...sometimes, and Venus) classy players on tour.

People knock them for being cocky...who can blame them...whenever they make those comments...they're TRUE!

Venus after 7-6 loss in B.O.T.W. Final, "I should have won that one. I played really badly. Even if I played just average, I should have won." VERY TRUE! She hit over 40 unforced in that match. If she had have hitten 30, she would have won in straights!

They're not cocky, they just know that they are the best. Life is a kill or be killed kind of game and they know that you can't just sit idly by and wait for others to give you the recognition that you deserve...you have to take it by FORCE! People didn't acknowledge the W.S. as great tennis players until 2001...AFTER Venus went to the USO Finals on her DEBUT and lost to the World #1, Serena WON the USO...DEFEATING World #1, Venus won 2 consecutive Wimbledon and USO Titles.

People have been constantly giving them backhanded compliments, but now I hope that this showing of IMMENSE class from the W.S. will demonstrate to the world that these two women are world-class athletes and world-class people too!

le bon vivant
Sep 14th, 2004, 06:49 AM
Well most of the people who supposedly "disliked" Serena did so for bullshit reasons anyway, so I'm not surprised that this moment of injustice would suddenly "endear" them to her, until that is she plays their favorites, where they will comb through her post match interview and find another bullshit reason to dislike her again, so wtf ever.

vutt
Sep 14th, 2004, 07:43 AM
Well USO did not change may attitude towards her. It's still kind of neutral.

But I doubt her words about calling umpire "ANTI-Serena" did add actually something to her popularity.

bandabou
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:33 AM
Well USO did not change may attitude towards her. It's still kind of neutral.

But I doubt her words about calling umpire "ANTI-Serena" did add actually something to her popularity.


Of course.....people like it more when you call the umpire fucking bitch...that´s called attitude, huh??! Depends who says what I guess..

SJW
Sep 14th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Well USO did not change may attitude towards her. It's still kind of neutral.

But I doubt her words about calling umpire "ANTI-Serena" did add actually something to her popularity.

i really do think it's impossible to be neutral on Serena.

pigam
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:30 PM
i really do think it's impossible to be neutral on Serena.
oh, please!
It just HAS to be possible. It is Serena's RIGHT to be treated in a neutral way.
Fine, 'some people' dont like her, for reasons other people love her for: normal.
BUT that should not be the case for any official organisation like the USTA, the WTA or whoever.
I am not saying that they are all against Serena, but it looks to me they are more like all pro *some other player(s)*. And that's just wrong.

SJW
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:36 PM
easssssssssssyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :eek:

it was kinda tongue in cheek. she has such a personality that for most people she either annoys the hell out of you, or you just wanna hug her. she does both to me, but i love her anyway :inlove: but for tennis especially, you can't really be completely neutral about her in the way that i can be over....Panova for example

pigam
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:41 PM
easssssssssssyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :eek:

it was kinda tongue in cheek. she has such a personality that for most people she either annoys the hell out of you, or you just wanna hug her. she does both to me, but i love her anyway :inlove: but for tennis especially, you can't really be completely neutral about her in the way that i can be over....Panova for example
Jeez, I've got this strange effect on you (and I like it ;) :p :rolleyes: )
Everytime I post some reply you seem to think I'm flipping out :lol: :o

I just mean that, I understand you perfectly. I think a lot of 'stars' are like Serena (and Justine ;) :p ). You either hate or love them... BUT in the context of a match, she must be treated neutrally.

*oops, now reading post you were replying to, oops, now realising was persons personal opinion, oops now seeying why you thought I overreacted :o*

I just feel -posted this in another thread- Serena did so little, and so little was done for her. Never mind :unsure:

boggs570
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:54 PM
Gee don't you think it's time to start giving Jen a break? I mean it's not like she made the ref act a fool? :angel:

I mean not like her all you want but she does have people who like her and if someone talked about V & S as obsessively as you are about Jen wouldn't that get on your last nerve? :confused:

Don't they talk about V&S obsessively now anyway. I have to agree with Law & Order.

bandabou
Sep 14th, 2004, 01:10 PM
I´m with pigam on this one...Serena could or probably SHOULD have done more about that call....but I think that in remembering how the crowds have turned against her in the past, I think she just let it go..

And SJW is right. Serena is the player you either love to hate or hate to love. No middle way in there...

Rocketta
Sep 14th, 2004, 01:33 PM
Don't they talk about V&S obsessively now anyway. I have to agree with Law & Order.
and doesn't that get on your last nerve? :confused:

boggs570
Sep 14th, 2004, 01:52 PM
and doesn't that get on your last nerve? :confused:

To be honest with you I don't really read them. When I start to read a thread and see the negativity most of the time I do not visit that thread again.