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©@®eLess
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:25 PM
she is now at 785, losing 26 for Bali-not playing there, probably not playing at China as i heard, at October she is losing 369 for Zurich and 82 for Linz

If she doesn't win until the end of the year :o :o she could finish the year as #110 or less. Is she becoming Daja Bedanova, or she became her long time ago?!

Time is running out :rolleyes: :mad: :rolleyes:

skanky~skanketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:29 PM
jelena! :sad:

its ok. at least she's playing in challengers. that should help her build up her confidence like it did for andre. good luck jellybean!

©@®eLess
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:39 PM
jelena! :sad:

its ok. at least she's playing in challengers. that should help her build up her confidence like it did for andre. good luck jellybean!


she is not in Bordeaux draw

alfajeffster
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:41 PM
she is now at 785, losing 26 for Bali-not playing there, probably not playing at China as i heard, at October she is losing 369 for Zurich and 82 for Linz

If she doesn't win until the end of the year :o :o she could finish the year as #110 or less. Is she becoming Daja Bedanova, or she became her long time ago?!

Time is running out :rolleyes: :mad: :rolleyes:
Well, as long as she falls forward, she should bounce right back up!:lol:

(sorry, couldn't resist- it's the first picture that came to mind)

Dava
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:48 PM
We all knew this was going to happen, why do you think shes ellecting to play challengers :rolleyes: I have to say though she would have to try bloody hard to put on a slump the way Daja did :sad:

Dawn Marie
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:49 PM
She is probably retooling her game and the passion for the sport. Sometimes when you fall down it is best to start back from the bottom to gain confidence. It does seem she is taking her tennis seriously by playing these challengers.

She seems to have a tougher backbone then martina hingis IMHO.

WhatTheDeuce
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:52 PM
Which challengers has Jelena entered?

igost
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:54 PM
she'll be back. no worries.

give her some time to sort out her problems. she has enough talent to overcome them.

The Guilty
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Which challengers has Jelena entered?

I think no one. It was someone who misunderstood an article and started saying that Jelena was going to play in $75K Bordeaux and now everyone says that she's going to play challengers :rolleyes:

Philip
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:09 PM
yes... all this challenger talk is a load of crap.

vogus
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:15 PM
She seems to have a tougher backbone then martina hingis IMHO.

totally agree, you can't count Dokic out even if she does drop out of the Top 100. The thing is, she had an awful 2003 as well, and last fall she was also on the verge of a complete rankings collapse, then suddenly reached the final of Tier I Zurich. With all the stuff that has happened to her, you can't really blame Jelena too much for her decline.

patricktav2003
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Poor Jelena !! come back !! at the top

faboozadoo15
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:17 PM
hopefully she can get herself back on track!
she played pretty well to lose 7-5 in the third set against dechy, if she could have gotten through that one (she served for the match) she could have actually done rather well in the us open. she was just too rusty.

Steffifan
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:32 PM
I hope shes not burned out period hopefully she will make a great comeback & not retire early like Majoli(1997 French Open champ) even though Iva did rebound to top 25 2 years ago

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:36 PM
You people dont know how Jelena is going to do. She may win more matches than anyone thinks. And for her dropping out of the top 100... the other people will lose points too so that isnt necessarily true. She did play well at the US Open against Decy who was playing some great tennis so she CAN still play. Good luck Jelena!! I know youll be back soon.

©@®eLess
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:21 PM
But she is in the slump for exactly 2 years now. TWO YEARS. that's a lot for tennis player, i don't want to sound pesimistic but from 20-22 that's the age when player matures and gets consistant, if you don't do anything then, it just waisting time. I really like her, but if she doesn't win something serious until the end of the year, i'm affraid there will not be a great come back, maybe a top 20-25 but top 5 there is no way it happen. I don't think it's wise to skip Bali, and most probably China, she has 450 points to defend in october, and she didn't win 450 for all 9 months of the year. It's really sad when i think more careful about it. I like when people are optimistic, but i just think there is no more hope. She died like a player

SzavayFi
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:25 PM
Oh no Jelena, yea well lets hope she wins all of the challengers and she;ll be back in no time, i was Afriad the same thing was happening to Daniela, at 54 in the world she got to the Eastbourne final beating Fraizer Sprem Sugiyama Mauresmo and Served for the Match against Kuzzie..........so you never know. a few good wins will improve her confidence considerably

azza
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:28 PM
110 is actually good for her :eek:

©@®eLess
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:29 PM
She mad to many wrong moves in her life. She gets no media attention now. She doesn't even get it in her own country. Her father ruined everything. My god , in 2000 she was supporting radical party who's president is jailed in the Hague for war crimes, and she didn't even blink at it. And what did people get for wanting democracy. I and half a million people got teargas on demonstration, and she supported them, her father does. Why did she need that. why does she need all those threats to leave Serbian citizenship. Because she and her familly wanted a house and tennis courts in Belgrade Center. Maybe they could move National Museum cause of that!!!!!! What a wrong family she has!!!! I really hope she separated from them for good, and that she changed her political orientation

pisces
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:33 PM
Dokic will GET BACK to top10.We want all our girls to do good .She will.Dokic will work out those problem's area.It happen to the best.Good luck MS.DOKIC

LUIS9
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:54 PM
Yeah Dokic is an interesting story insnt she? What happened to her? I mean i really havent watched all that was to be seen in the tennis scene this 2004 season bc i go away for college, however i keep up with it during the spring semester and about 80% of the summer events including the french open. Now i really havent even heard from commentators mention a word on Dokic, is she doing that bad, not even mentioning her slump, is she that insignificant as a player these days? Those of you who are more tennis savvy than myself, how would you describe Dokic's game, i do know for a fact that she has a huge but erratic forehand, solid backhand, ok movement but can be a hindrance, but her lack of variety was what seemed most impressive and what was most lacking in her game. For example going as far back as US open 01 i believe she was to play Hingis in the quarterfinals i believe, Hingis was going through her slump had lost to Seles back to back on the california hardcourts wasnt playing too confidently and seemingly could have lost to Dokic however Hingis out right smacked Dokic off the court 6-4, 6-0, i mean i am a fan of Hingis and will always be, but Dokic seems powerful enough to overpower Hingis why such a collapse, i guess her serve isnt or wasnt big enough to put Hingis on the defensive on the get go as the big power hitters did and could and from there on Hingis couldnt use her disguise and all court abilities bc of lack of power, but what does it indicate of Dokic, she did beat her, on Hingis's latter self destruction period after a long layoff and 2 surgeries Dokic beat her during the canadian of 02, but obviously Hingis was no way near her 90% at best. If Dokic were to retool her game a bit and gain some confidence could she even threaten to be a top 15 player?

Hantuchov
Sep 13th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Jela :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

William Hunt
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:18 AM
Jelena Dokic' problems are mentally. Since she was dumped by her ex-boyfriend, Brazilian former F1 Arrows driver Enrique Berndoli (who is now also testing for the BAR F1 team), Jelena has fallen into a depression. Sources close to her suggest that she never really recovered from this heartbreak she suffered back in january and that this basically jeopardised her season.

switz
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:00 AM
she showed a lot of promise against dechy. a few months ago she would have lost 1 and 1. her game is coming back together IMO and i'm sure she will get her ranking back to a respectable level. she showed in zurich that she still can beat anyone so it's not as if the game has gone above the level where she can elite again. she just needs to get her life in order and come back to australia.

maccardel
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:44 AM
I hope Jelena gets back to where she was and even higher, but I couldn't help but noticing the top 10 from that era and how they were the next big thing, well where and what is happening to all of them? Kournikova is out, Hingis is out, Pierce is trying to rebuild her career, Venus and Serena are now 'struggling", Mauresmo is still at the top and higher, Seles is out, Rubin is struggling and it seems like that generation just went away in the blink of an eye.

I mean there are those who are in between generations like chanda, and monica and jen, but the new crop that was supposed to be about the williamses and hingis was here for only what seems like two years. When there seems to be a good rivalry in tennis, it just fades without any kind of memorable feeling. It was great to see venus and serena take on hingis and davenport, then Jelena was up and coming but even she is gone. Kim and Justine came and ruled for what seems like a minute and now the russians have taken over, but how long is this going to last?

~|Naomi|~
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:51 AM
But she is in the slump for exactly 2 years now. TWO YEARS. that's a lot for tennis player


I wish I could beat the world number 1 in a slump

She gets no media attention now
So what??? Media can be just as negative as positive. She can fly under the radar for awhile and it will take the pressure off her.

As for falling out of the top 100, Was she expected to make the final of Zurich last year? No she wasn't, so she may just defend her points, no one knows.

JLDementieva
Sep 14th, 2004, 05:13 AM
:sad: that's really sad for Jelena....

vutt
Sep 14th, 2004, 06:30 AM
She mad to many wrong moves in her life. She gets no media attention now. She doesn't even get it in her own country. Her father ruined everything. My god , in 2000 she was supporting radical party who's president is jailed in the Hague for war crimes, and she didn't even blink at it. And what did people get for wanting democracy. I and half a million people got teargas on demonstration, and she supported them, her father does. Why did she need that. why does she need all those threats to leave Serbian citizenship. Because she and her familly wanted a house and tennis courts in Belgrade Center. Maybe they could move National Museum cause of that!!!!!! What a wrong family she has!!!! I really hope she separated from them for good, and that she changed her political orientationWell, but have you ever heard from her something political since then. One dont need to have very high IQ in order to realise that back in 2002 it was all about her dad. I mean if Serbia really can't understand that then maybe it wouldn't be that wrong to drop Serbia... :confused:

yeah and btw. if you call ending year 2003 in top 16 slump then I don't want to know how you going to describe players ranked below top 16... :angel:


If she can get rid from off-court distractions then I'm pretty sure she will be back in top 20 at least...

blablabla
Sep 14th, 2004, 07:54 AM
She mad to many wrong moves in her life. She gets no media attention now. She doesn't even get it in her own country. Her father ruined everything. My god , in 2000 she was supporting radical party who's president is jailed in the Hague for war crimes, and she didn't even blink at it. And what did people get for wanting democracy. I and half a million people got teargas on demonstration, and she supported them, her father does. Why did she need that. why does she need all those threats to leave Serbian citizenship. Because she and her familly wanted a house and tennis courts in Belgrade Center. Maybe they could move National Museum cause of that!!!!!! What a wrong family she has!!!! I really hope she separated from them for good, and that she changed her political orientation
what a load of bollocks.

Daniel
Sep 14th, 2004, 07:55 AM
Jelena :sad:

blablabla
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:11 AM
I mean if Serbia really can't understand that then maybe it wouldn't be that wrong to drop Serbia... :confused:


i hardly agree with anything you say, vutt. many players have arguments with their federations. it would be a really stupid move. why not just sort things out.

as far as the serbian radical party is concerned they don't come even close to nutters like the BNP and that Austrian complete lunatic Heider who half the country supported (including some sports stars).

It was widely reported recently that the Estonians erected a statue of a Estonian WW2 soldier in full Nazi German uniform. When they were understandably told to explain the government came up with... "The axis soldiers were heroes too". Now that's fucking uber radical. Shocked many people who don't know that part of the world's history.

stop projecting.

vutt
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:41 AM
It was widely reported recently that the Estonians erected a statue of a Estonian WW2 soldier in full Nazi German uniform. When they were understandably told to explain the government came up with... "The axis soldiers were heroes too". Now that's fucking uber radical. Shocked many people who don't know that part of the world's history.

stop projecting.
I wonder what all this has to do with current subject? A pathetic attempt to discredit me, because I'm also Estonian?!? :confused: :confused:
I guess you are running out of reasonable arguments. :p

SM
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:29 AM
well, cos she was ranked so high before her seeding has kept her ranking over inflated. she doesnt belong in the top 50 imo, but im sure if she starts playing challengers she atleast stay top 100

Zhao
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:15 PM
according to inside-tennis.net..she's still playing :confused:

SuperG
Sep 14th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Since she was dumped by her ex-boyfriend, Brazilian former F1 Arrows driver Enrique Berndoli

Just to clear one thing up:


Jelena left Bernoldi! Not the other way round!!!!!!!!!!
(but i like the way you spelt his name: Berndoli :lol: - fits to him :haha: )

CooCooCachoo
Sep 14th, 2004, 04:43 PM
:o

WorldWar24
Sep 14th, 2004, 08:08 PM
For example going as far back as US open 01 i believe she was to play Hingis in the quarterfinals i believe, Hingis was going through her slump had lost to Seles back to back on the california hardcourts wasnt playing too confidently and seemingly could have lost to Dokic however Hingis out right smacked Dokic off the court 6-4, 6-0, i mean i am a fan of Hingis and will always be, but Dokic seems powerful enough to overpower Hingis why such a collapse?

Dokic was leading 3-0 against Hingis at the Us open, when both girls' managers, Ivan Brixi, joined Melanie (Martina's mother) cheering for Hingis in the coaches box. Jelena spotted Brixi there and was disgusted, and Brixi got what he wanted: Jelena fell apart and went from 3-0 to 4-6 0-6, rushing through points and games, as she felt frustrated and backstabbed by her own team, in a disgraceful yet common thing in the world of tennis - the agents want to get the most $$$ out of their biggest star, even if they have to pull dirty tricks like that, even against players whom they also represent. One could expect her to be upset and make a scandal, like Capriati would or Serena would and call it a conspiracy, yet Jelena has never talked about the incident again to this day, and she still has Martina as one of her greatest friends and she respects her very much. There is a famous picture from the match saying "what the fuck is he doing up there"

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VwD0AnkaBIe6lR*batPKaMN3mKZW0
http://www.wtnphotos.com/data/511/1jdokpic27.jpg"what the fuck is he doing up there?"

Jelena has been tricked and used by almost everyone around her, including journalists, managers and even family members, so to me it is a great surprise that she still has the heart to fight and give it her best shot. She didn't deserve what happened to her in the past, and she didn't deserve this slump, so I would hope God remembers her when she needs Him most

WorldWar24
Sep 15th, 2004, 09:46 PM
It would be a good move for Jelena to just return to Australia. She keeps promosing she will which eventually will turn off both countries, so she should make a decision. At least in Australia she would be able to have access to some great coaching facilities, some experienced coaches who could work with Borna and herself. Really she could get a little 'party' who could travel with her to tournaments, so not only Borna and Tino and their father but also some aussie fitness coaches etc etc ..... you really need a good support team on the tour, Jelena had this with her family ... and she could still hav this with her mother except Im sure Damir has already bashed his wife for her coming to see Jelena at the US Open last year.

Erm nice post :D Was Damir's wife at the open last year? If she was, then you're right, she's probably still being bashed to this day by Damir :silly: