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Sam L
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:25 PM
I ask because imo, these 3 at their best (with no injury) are still the best players in the world.

With this for 2005, I think that if they're all committed to tennis and stay injury free, it will be back to the 2002/03 era.

Individually, this is what I expect:

Justine - she needs to get her strength back and become match tough again. She's still got it mentally.

Serena - stay injury free and play MORE.

Venus - stop been content with losing to ordinary players and get that fire back in the belly like in 2000.

I think all could come out with their best tennis in Aussie Open with one of them winning, Justine will regain the French and we'll probably see all-Williams finals in Wimbledon and US Open next year again.

If injuries stay away.

Sam L
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Oh and I can't wait for one of them to face Sharapova.

I want to see Justine give Sharapova a beat-down on clay. :tape:

I Love Maria
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Sharapova will thrash Serena again maybe more than 6-1 6-4 this time!

Greenout
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:33 PM
I think we'll see Justine because this is all she lives for. Serena?
She'll do a movie. After what happened at the US OPEN, Serena
thinks its all one big farce, and the WTA are full of s**t. Serena's not
doing the WTA any favours, she'll play tournaments when she wants to
promote herself and Nike.

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:33 PM
It´d foolish to count out either Serena or Justine imo...remember that before injury took them out it was the Serena and Justine show, with Venus and Kim completing the quartet. Serena just has to regain full fitness and get her mind together and she´ll be fine. Justine too imo....plus her game is perfect to disrupt all those russians game.

Venus, Venus...is an enigma. Needs to start play better when it matters the most: at the majors.

Sam L
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:40 PM
It´d foolish to count out either Serena or Justine imo...remember that before injury took them out it was the Serena and Justine show, with Venus and Kim completing the quartet. Serena just has to regain full fitness and get her mind together and she´ll be fine. Justine too imo....plus her game is perfect to disrupt all those russians game.

Venus, Venus...is an enigma. Needs to start play better when it matters the most: at the majors.
Yes I think Serena's far from finished too. It seems like at times, she doesn't care about the game or her place in history that much, but she did try to get (and got) the "Serena slam", I'm sure she cares.

It's interesting that Venus only seems to play well at slams when Serena's playing too and playing well.

Notice, how Serena beat her in every slam she's won since her first.

When Serena comes back to her best, she'll lift Venus too, I'm sure.

And Justine, she lives for tennis. The way Russians have been playing, there's nothing to suggest that they've taken over Justine.

CJ07
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:54 PM
To be honest, I wonder how dominate Justine will be even when she gets back to 100%.
The thing that she really had over her opponents was her mental strength. In 2003 Lindsay, Kim, and even Jennifer really should've had her on many occasions, but her mental strength allowed her to overcome their challenges.

So I think Justine needs to find a way to get that mental advantage over players again.

For Serena, she just needs to zone in like she did in 2002, and she'll be fine.

For Venus, she just needs to be healthy for 5 minutes, and gain some confidence in her game.

azmad_88
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:56 PM
From Justine..probably not that much ..compared to williams impact next year..
but i am scared she will be busy in her other activities such as fashion,movies etc..
so im not shock if the Russian Domination continues and maybe Clijsters can sneek in a grand slam ..right now this 3 countries looks possible 4 a grand slam... russia usa and belgium.. france ump..maybe...

Sam L
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:56 PM
To be honest, I wonder how dominate Justine will be even when she gets back to 100%.
The thing that she really had over her opponents was her mental strength. In 2003 Lindsay, Kim, and even Jennifer really should've had her on many occasions, but her mental strength allowed her to overcome their challenges.

So I think Justine needs to find a way to get that mental advantage over players again.

For Serena, she just needs to zone in like she did in 2002, and she'll be fine.

For Venus, she just needs to be healthy for 5 minutes, and gain some confidence in her game.
Well last time I checked, Justine does have the mental edge (and lots of it). Olympics, over Myskina??? Her first tournament back since the French Open.

Petrova just outpowered her when she was very tired, that's not showing greater mental strength or a lack of mental strength on Justine's part.

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2004, 02:01 PM
We´ll see....at first I wasn´t really sure how much Serena cared for the tennis, but I think the way she argued that call, convinced me....she´ll be back and she´s gonna be fine.

William Hunt
Sep 13th, 2004, 02:05 PM
I just hope that ALL topplayers will remain fit next year ! That would give us some great matches, wouldn't it ?

Knizzle
Sep 13th, 2004, 02:32 PM
Well Tracy Austin says the WTA said Venus was working really hard to get back to the top cause she was tired of being ranked #11 or so. I have to believe that's true cause I don't think Austin would make that up and Venus herself after her loss to LD said she had no imminent injuries and that she felt really good about herself. Serena's always seems to be working hard and really motivated to do well so it'll probably only be a matter of time before she gets her confidence back. Justine seemed to be on at the Olympics, but faltered a bit against Petrova, I'm not sure if it's because of her being sick or just rustiness from not being on tour very long. Justine has the most amibition of these three so she's the one who I'd bet on getting back to top form first. If the sisters become more ambitious about denting tennis history then look out world.

boggs570
Sep 13th, 2004, 02:47 PM
I think we'll see Justine because this is all she lives for. Serena?
She'll do a movie. After what happened at the US OPEN, Serena
thinks its all one big farce, and the WTA are full of s**t. Serena's not
doing the WTA any favours, she'll play tournaments when she wants to
promote herself and Nike.


I believe you got a point there Greenout. (no pun intended).

heartBREAKeRS
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Sharapova will thrash Serena again maybe more than 6-1 6-4 this time!
do i heard the word BITCH:fiery: and hater

shap_half
Sep 13th, 2004, 05:26 PM
I really see Justine winning the first three GS next year. I think she is feeling embarrassed from having not even reaching the quarters of the last two she competed in. She loves the pressure of defending and I think once she gets her groove back, she'll be hungry to defend Australia. Justine has always been the type of player to exceed expectations. And when she couldn't play the clay court season this year, she would want to reestablish herself as the best claycourter with a second RG. And since she hasn't won Wimbledon, she'll want to win that too. Her ambition and drive won't just allow for her to wallow in mediocrity while others win the Slams and overtake the #1 ranking. She might just win all the tournaments she is still scheduled to play this fall.

Lady
Sep 13th, 2004, 05:26 PM
I know Justine really wants it, so she'll work even harder, and hopefully it's gonna pay off again! :)
I think Serena wants it too, otherwise she wouldn't play US Open risking another injury! Her game is still there, only need to find her movement, and cut down unforced errors!

And Venus, flashes of her old game is there, just need to add consistency in her shots again! :D

I wouldn't count out any of the 3! :D

darrinbaker00
Sep 13th, 2004, 05:39 PM
At the end of the 2005 Tour Championships, I expect Venus, Serena and Justine, IN THAT ORDER, to be at the top of the rankings. From where I sit, they are the three best players, and they'll prove it next year. ;)

SerenaSlam
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:42 PM
I think we'll see Justine because this is all she lives for. Serena?
She'll do a movie. After what happened at the US OPEN, Serena
thinks its all one big farce, and the WTA are full of s**t. Serena's not
doing the WTA any favours, she'll play tournaments when she wants to
promote herself and Nike.
honestly that sounds like somthing she would do and should do. hell they haven't been doing anything for her. let me take that back, they have been doing for Serena, but to what extent. What Serena and her sister brought to tennis the WTA should be praising them for. Yeah you had Jennifer and Monica the first ones to start hitting big from the ground, but they were not on a regular basis going for "second shot" winners. Serena and Venus were the first ones to come out and go for so much more out there. They had the power in every department. And serena is still the most powerful player out there. Physically she is the strongest.

Serena had this US Open in the bag in my opinion. Controversy stopped her from winning it. I see her winning the Australian, and just picking up her domination. It started at Wimbledon. Look at the player Serena lost two this year. 3 times to Jennifer 1 time to Amelie and 1 Time to Maria. Only 1 slam champion has beaten her, that is Maria, and where has she been? Enough about her. Its really just all up to Serena. And at the open she was classy in her cheated defeat. i think her desire is still there, and I think she is gonna physically come back so strong and mentally ready for 2005, that the others are gonna say "She's back" and just shake their heads.

She still has the abilities, whether or not, she is "on" is the question. I personally think she has it all put together, and will start running away with the WTA again, by the end of the season.

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:04 PM
Serena just needs to figure out Jen again....clear sign that her game isn´t fully back, although those bad calls don´t help it either...

volta
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Sharapova will thrash Serena again maybe more than 6-1 6-4 this time!
LMAO only when Serena doesn´t play her game :rolleyes: cuz if Serena comes @ 90 % of her game Sharapova won´t have a chance against Serena.

I Love Maria
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:41 PM
LMAO only when Serena doesn´t play her game :rolleyes: cuz if Serena comes @ 90 % of her game Sharapova won´t have a chance against Serena.

If Sharapova comes with 80% of her game, then Serena doesn't have a chance. Again, Serena was playing at 20% of MARIA'S ABILITY during that wimbeldon final, so that probably means she was already at 90%. :o :tape:

volta
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:42 PM
If Sharapova comes with 80% of her game, then Serena doesn't have a chance. Again, Serena was playing at 20% of MARIA'S ABILITY during that wimbeldon final, so that probably means she was already at 90%. :o :tape:
keap dreaming. :wavey:

I Love Maria
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:45 PM
keap dreaming. :wavey:

:wavey: Well I'm very much looking forward if Maria is to play Serena at wimbeldon next year. That is IF Serena can get far enough. :tape:

Gogo123
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:00 PM
I expect the Williams sisters to come back strong next year...for them this year has not been up to their real level...I wont call it a dissappointment as both came from major injuries and left the tour for a long time.
I hope Venus can add a major to her titles next year and I believe that Serena can win two majors next year providing that they both are injury-free.
Justine will always be a threat in any tournament she plays...just like the sisters, she has to stay injury-free and she will be a threat at the majors reaching the finals of one or even winning one

SJW
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:14 PM
:haha: Justine winning the first three slams next year :lol::lol::lol::lol:

ok lets get something straight....NO ONE is gonna dominate for the foreseable future. you will have some better than others, but nothing like Serena's 02/03 Serena Slam is gonna happen.

Justine? she'll win tournaments. 3 slams in a row? hell to tha n-o. may sneak the French if she's on the top of her game and others arent.
actually, i'm gonna say she'll probably go slamless for 05.props to her winning the US when she did because it's gonna be tough for her to win the latter two slams again. i reckon she can win more slams over her career, but none other than the first two of the year. she's gonna find it hard defending her points and i dont see her holding down #1 for anywhere near 45 weeks again.

Serena? she's getting there. even though her results seem to be going backwards...lots of improvement in her play from when she came back, even though she won Miami. her game is maturing and it's beautiful. she's maturing and that's beautiful also. awesome. if she can get fit for more than a few tourneys in a row, she can lead tennis to become a pop culture. she's still the best player on her day overall i reckon. probably has the best chance out of the three for winning a slam next year.

Venus? i think she's back. the injuries are stopping...and a lot of positive signs in her match vs Davenport even though she lost. apparently she practiced her f/h before that match...and it was how her fh used to be. not as good as that backhand (the best shot in women's tennis IMO), but more than capable of producing winners. she looked a bit flat footed and awkward in the beginning of the year, but she's looking quicker now. maybe a slam next year.

shap_half
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:17 PM
:haha: Justine winning the first three slams next year :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Justine? she'll win tournaments. 3 slams in a row? hell to tha n-o. may sneak the French, maybe the Australian (not necessarily next year though. infact i'm gonna say she goes slamless for 05), but props to her winning the US when she did because it's gonna be tough for her to win the latter two slams again. i reckon she can win more slams, but none other than the first two of the year. she's gonna find it hard defending her points and i dont see her holding down #1 for anywhere near 45 weeks again. could sneak the french if she's on the top of her game and others arent.



could 'sneak' the french? please. keep telling yourself that and enjoy your stay in the hotel dellusional. Venus is back and Serena has the best chance to win a GS. I don't think so. Serena had a great chance to win 2 GSs this year but didn't. I don't think her chances will get better next year. Venus can't control her forehand in most points and a second serve that's only better than Dementieva's in the Top 25. But she 'might win' a Slam next year. But Justine, who is the only person this year to play "#1 player' tennis and has more heart and drive than any person playing in a LOOOONGGGG TIME, will go slamless.

Keep snorting

I Love Maria
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Justine winning first 3 slams? Are you joking? Wimbledon as well? Oh my god, keep dreaming in your own little messed up imaginary world. I guess thats the only way you are going to be happy in the next few years!

SJW
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:27 PM
could 'sneak' the french? please. keep telling yourself that and enjoy your stay in the hotel dellusional. Venus is back and Serena has the best chance to win a GS. I don't think so. Serena had a great chance to win 2 GSs this year but didn't. I don't think her chances will get better next year. Venus can't control her forehand in most points and a second serve that's only better than Dementieva's in the Top 25. But she 'might win' a Slam next year. But Justine, who is the only person this year to play "#1 player' tennis and has more heart and drive than any person playing in a LOOOONGGGG TIME, will go slamless.

Keep snorting


may and might are better than Henin winning the first three slams this year. you have a cheek to call ME delusional :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

vogus
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:31 PM
At the end of the 2005 Tour Championships, I expect Venus, Serena and Justine, IN THAT ORDER, to be at the top of the rankings. From where I sit, they are the three best players, and they'll prove it next year. ;)

Venus has had a worse year than the previous one every year since '01. So you're saying she's suddenly going to turn it around and re-emerge as the #1 player in the world? No way.

For the Williams sisters i think maybe one GS title between them, most likely Serena, but even that's not a given.

For Justine i also think one GS title is likely, but not more. The competition is too tough.

vogus
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:43 PM
i think i was too hard on Venus in my post, bcuz she is still a very dangerous player and i don't discount her chances of winning another GS title in her career. But returning to #1, Venus would need to play a lot more tennis than she has shown herself inclined to play during the last few seasons, and at a considerably higher level.

flyingmachine
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:46 PM
I think Justine will be back on top sometime next year. She will be feel disappointed no to reach the final of the US open and will be working very hard for next year. I think Justine will win about one or two GS next year. Her main target must be Wimblendon because she never won it before as well as to regain the French again. As long as she is not ill or injured she will be O.K. ;) Top 3 for her for next year.
I think Serena is almost there however she needs some help to create a plan B because her plan A is not as effective as once was because some players knows how to play her plan A so plan B is needed now as well as play a bit more tennis but she will be one of the favourite at the US and Wimblendon. She will be in the top 5 next year.
However I have a sad feeling for Venus :rolleyes: she has techical problems with her forehand and like Serena she doesn't have a plan B neither but Serena has a serve which she can get away from tight situation but unforturely Venus doesn't have anything to get away with it anymore. She needs a new coach that's what she needs now otherwise slowly downwords for her. :rolleyes:

Smackie
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:49 PM
I think it would be easier for Serena to get back in the form she was in 2002-3. She just has to force herself to play more tournements. It would be more diffcult for Venus because of her injuries and mentally less tough than Serena. Justine will play better when Kim is around. How weird one's existence gets another pumped up, of course it's sisters love between the Sisters and...well, just say the latter aren't friends.

I do love Kuznetsova and don't mind the Russians at all but something seems to be missing right now that was so exciting between late 02 to early half of 03 when the top four doing battle royale.

I know I will be in arguements with the Sisters fans when that happens but there is somethings that no Russians can replace with the Big Four and I look forward to seeing them competing each other again.

dreamgoddess099
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:58 PM
Nobody won two grandslams this year, so nobody is playing great. Some won one grandslam, but that hardly makes them dominant. The whole year was a fluke. All this year proved is that regular tour players can win a slam when the best players aren't healthy or match tough. I personally don't see how [B]ONE[B] win over somebody suddenly means that you are better than that person and will never lose to them again. Nobody has been overly impressive this year, so I don't get where anybody is just sooo tough to beat.

turt
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Justine winning first 3 slams? Are you joking? Wimbledon as well? Oh my god, keep dreaming in your own little messed up imaginary world. I guess thats the only way you are going to be happy in the next few years!
When you look at who has won the 3 slams Justine didn't win this year, well yeah, I can imagine that Justine at the top of her game could very well win at least the first 3 slams of 2005. Of course, it will be more difficult for her if Serena, Venus and Kim regain their form! But she can do it, no doubt about it! I don't think she will because there are so many factors involved, but she will definitely be a top contender and favourite at every slam she enters.

Amorc
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:09 PM
If Serena gets healthy and plays enough tournaments I think she will probably finish No. 1, with JHH and Kim close behind. Just cant see Venus winning any slams and I certainly dont think she is one of the best 3 players in the world. Should be good year next year if they can all get fit and Davenport plays.

I Love Maria
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:13 PM
When you look at who has won the 3 slams Justine didn't win this year, well yeah, I can imagine that Justine at the top of her game could very well win at least the first 3 slams of 2005. Of course, it will be more difficult for her if Serena, Venus and Kim regain their form! But she can do it, no doubt about it! I don't think she will because there are so many factors involved, but she will definitely be a top contender and favourite at every slam she enters.

The way you put it then there are MANY players who CAN do it then.

dreamgoddess099
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:16 PM
:wavey: Well I'm very much looking forward if Maria is to play Serena at wimbeldon next year. That is IF Serena can get far enough. :tape:Serena hasn't had a problem getting far enough at Wimbledon for the past three years. Anyway, you sure have a lot of faith in someone who has lost before the quarterfinals in 9 of the 14 tournaments she's played this year, while Serena was off tour for 8 1/2 months but still has yet to lose before a quarterfinal in any tournament she's played in the past three years. Many players have beaten Serena only to have Serena kill them the next time they play. Do you really think Maria's going to be any different?

I Love Maria
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:26 PM
Serena hasn't had a problem getting far enough at Wimbledon for the past three years. Anyway, you sure have a lot of faith in someone who has lost before the quarterfinals in 9 of the 14 tournaments she's played this year, while Serena was off tour for 8 1/2 months but still has yet to lose before a quarterfinal in any tournament she's played in the past three years. Many players have beaten Serena only to have Serena kill them the next time they play. Do you really think Maria's going to be any different?

I can tell by your name, that you are a dreamer, good for you. :) Anyway, Serena will have to get to at least the SF but most probably the final to meet Maria and vice versa. You seem pretty certain that Serena will beat Maria on Maria's favourite surface next wimbledon. I just don't think she will, I think the outcome will be similar as wimbledon 2004 but maybe closer match though.

turt
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:26 PM
The way you put it then there are MANY players who CAN do it then.
Of course, but out of all these players, I'd still give Justine a better chance to do it.

fifiricci
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:30 PM
I dunno what to expect exactly, but they'll all need to do better if they're gonna impress anyone .............. ;)

MinnyGophers
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:48 PM
I really think taht Justine is the one with the most drive and passion, thus will be back on top faster thant the WS. Serena is getting there, but as for Venus, only time will tell.
Some people are really delusional here, if they think that Justine will now become only a spot on the radar. She is still the dominant tour player and true number 1 right now.
I really expect and believe she'll do very well at the slams and other tournaments just like she was before she went out, especially if the WS are still slumping and Kim is only getting back from injury while being out for the whole year almost.

also, nothing against Maria herself, but some of her fans are really delusional. :rolleyes:
she won Wimbledon okay. But what happened after that?
Sharapova obviously will be a threat in the tour, but if you believe that she is gonna dominate next year, think again. Not impossible, but I really doubt it especially with the results she has had since Wimby.
There is more chance for Justine to win the next 3 slams, than anybody else ( to win them three in a row).
But obviously that'll be tough even for her, so I wouldn't bet my life on it...

pisces
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:57 PM
If everyone stay heathly,may the best person win.